FULL CONCEAL Redux | SHOT 2017

Just about two months ago I wrote about FULL CONCEAL, a Las Vegas-based company designing 80% GLOCK lowers – with a slight twist. In that that post, I took an admittedly “harsh but fair” stance on their ideas concerning spare magazine placement on the light rail of a pistol. As it turns out, the FULL CONCEAL team is here at the 2017 SHOT Show and I was lucky enough to grab them for a few minutes and talk about the newest versions of their frames.

And no, they didn’t punch me in the face; Micheal and crew were perfectly pleasant to speak with.

The original Model 1 (M1) design has been updated to include a seven round mini-magazine that allows the gun to be ready to fire with a rack of the slide (the specs say that you can carry a round in chamber). Also, the magazine carrier now includes a tension screw to hold the spare magazine in place.

The new Model 2 (M2) is a more advanced version that includes a frame and a unique extended magazine attachment. In storage mode, the magazine attachment couples to the light rail in a similar form to the M1. However, the M2 is made ready by removing the whole forward assembly and inserting it into the magazine well.

The M2 obviously requires some additional features to accommodate the full sized magazine. First, the current design calls for a folding trigger that pulls up and out of the way. Second, the grip has a milled out section to allow for the top of the magazine in storage mode.

Whereas the folding trigger makes me a bit uneasy, the M2’s design is quite innovative and makes for a very compact carry package. As I stated in my initial post, I appreciate the vision it takes to make a pistol so vastly different from anything else on the market.

Will I buy one? To be determined, but I am looking forward to their production versions. Maybe TFB will end up getting a review gun.

Prices for advanced orders are listed below.

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Don’t Compromise

Concealed carry has always been a compromise of something – short sight radius, ammo capacity, caliber firepower, comfort, imprint, size…etc.    

The T1 Mod Kit is our front magazine holder to allow you to take your favorite full sized pistol and turn it into a practical concealment option and NOT compromise!

The T2 is a lower receiver conversion for your favorite pistol, that allows you to store a high capacity magazine (ie – 20 rounds of 9mm) completely flush with the front of the pistol and can be ready in a few seconds so you can throw down a wall of lead. 

We just want you to carry as much firepower as you can, in a way that is very comfortable for daily activity, and give you full concealment no matter how you hide it.   Is that too much to ask?



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  • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

    It’s making me irrationally angry that there are no pictures of it in “deployed” position with magazine in place.

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      Mucho valid point. Apologies. I’ll update tomorrow.

      • Blake

        20 days and counting.

  • RogUinta

    Still just a hacked up Polymer80.

  • billyoblivion

    I don’t understand the problem this is trying to solve.

    • noob

      Printing. The slide disappears down your waistband, so there is only the heel of the pistol grip to make a bulge. This short 3 inch pistol grip would be less likely to print when you carry concealed, or at least look like you are walking around with a bible down your pants

  • andrey kireev

    Or….. you could make it even more compact by storing a magazine in the grip….

    • stephen

      But that’s not how tactical tier one does it.

      😉

  • Capn Jack

    Just what I need……More things to think about before I can pull the trigger.

  • Kovacs Jeno

    what is it good for?

  • diana pierce

    Probably spent a virtual fortune designing this having high hopes to sell big… too bad. Seems they thought out everything but sales potential. No demand = No sales.

  • Captain Obvious

    I can see some use for this as a glove or console box gun. Perhaps a kit/ pack or stash away gun that you need as compact as possible where space is at a premium. Makes me want to try and cut down a Polymer 80 frame and try it myself.

  • Young Freud

    They really need to just design a folding magwell/grip, so it can be readied easier.

  • Mmmtacos

    Reverse cut and flush crowned barrel? Pretty nifty feature to have there.

  • Sledgecrowbar

    I was very interested in this since the first article on TFB but I had questions, and it almost got me to spend the money to go to SHOT this year just to ask. I wanted to know if they would make a mag sleeve to lengthen the grip, which it appears they have (at least to G26 length, because the rail claw can’t possibly be comfortable enough to get your pinky around), but now they went and screwed up the middle finger area of the grip on the frame. That’s all the grip there was to begin with.

    How can I get a magazine sleeve, without any rail attachment claws, that will give me a full grip for this gun? G17 and G19 options, please. If not, I’m wrapping electrical tape around a couple mags for use with the version 1 frame and calling it a day.

    Make a frame with a regular trigger guard, too, please. I can keep my mags on my support side so I don’t have to have an empty hopper in place of a light.

    Maybe I should just buy a regular G19 and cut it down to fit the 7-round mag this company makes, and use the rest of the grip to make a spare mag.

    Some company will probably offer exactly that as a service soon.

    • Disarmed in CA

      Or a G26 and just call it a day. Holstered, I don’t think it takes up more room than this ‘full conceal’ model and you don’t have to work around the asshattery.,

      • Sledgecrowbar

        The grip sticks out when holstered normally and that’s what gets you printing. So many people have done G19 grip cut-downs on their G17’s because they want the sight radius (and velocity – not much – increase) of the full length slide without trying to conceal a full-size grip against a curved part of your body..This takes it a step past G26 territory with a cell phone-sized setup, but with the mag extending down like that there’s no reason to have a compact slide anyway.

        I just caught a video of the version 2 magazine grip sleeve locked into the grip and it looks like you get plenty of grip length actually, the guy had a full grip on the gun and his pinky wasn’t touching the rail clamp, so if they offer the sleeve and the short magazine, I’d be interested. I’m not interested in the trigger guard-less version, though. Safe as having a folded-up trigger may be, I’d rather have it be conventional in that area and not have a cutout in the grip for the stored mag.

  • APDT66

    I think i am going to injure my brain if I think about this any further.

  • I sure am glad we’ve solved every single other problem that exists in the firearms industry, since that’s the only reason I can think of why anyone would make/buy/use this.

  • Banana Xango

    Because Glock owners weren’t ND’ing enough we removed another safety feature.

  • 1911a145acp

    The ultimate expression of Tacktikoolness, our gun is so Tacktikool you can’t even use it…..

  • malachi13

    Or you know… Someone make a G26 grip frame with the G17 dust cover… Just an idea lol.

    But it looks like they listened to the comments from before on integrating a mag with a grip extension… Just didn’t expect the hole in the MIDDLE OF YOUR GRIP.

  • WhatsayU

    No bueno…put it together….