New 6.5 Creedmoor Rifle from Ballistic Advantage, Aero Precision | SHOT 2017

Ballistic Advantage

Ballistic Advantage and Aero Precision teamed up on a number of projects recently, and had the fruits of their labors on display at the Industry Day at the Range event just ahead of the 2017 SHOT Show. One of these projects is a short barrel 6.5 Creedmoor carbine.

The Creedmoor rifle is a gun designed for accuracy, even though the company went in the opposite direction than one might think when it came to barrel length. The new gun has a 14.1″ barrel yet carries a 1 MOA guarantee. The barrel is made by Ballistic Advantage.

Ballistic Advantage

When TFB’s own Patrick R. was shooting the gun, he was able to place rounds exactly where they need to go with regularity. One of the Ballistic Advantage reps called it their “boringly accurate” gun. While I can appreciate the humor, I’ve never found anything boring about a quality firearm, which is exactly what this rifle appeared to be.

As shown in the photos, the rifle is equipped with a Vortex scope, Magpul Precision Adjustable stock and an Aero Precision KeyMod rail system. The upper and lower are also from Aero Precision.

Ballistic Advantage

Right now, this rifle is a prototype model, and does not have a release date or suggested retail price. However, the company rep I spoke to said that interested shooters should watch the company’s website in the coming months for a potential run of these rifles. I’d say if you are interested in them, you might want to e-mail them and let them know.



Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • yodamiles

    I think there is an article out there on the effect of barrel length on 6.5 creedmoor. There’re a bunch of people who claim that 6.5 c perform poorly from a short barrel but with heavier match ammo (140 gr) they only see 100 fps different between 20″ and 16″ barrel.

    • Quest

      The thing is whats even the point in using a short 6.5c barrel…? Basicly none. For plinking other rounds are cheaper and better to shoot. For long range 100-200fps are a big deal, and remember KE=1/2m x v². The ^2 is really substantial.

      • Quest

        200fps makes a diffrence of over 400J.

      • ostiariusalpha

        If you want to shoot 6.5 CM at midrange (and there’s no reason not to, especially if you aren’t particularly interested in storing .308 Win on your shelves), then the 14.1″ barrel can do the job nicely. The “problem” as I see it, is that like most larger frame AR-type rifles, it isn’t compatible with other manufacturers’ uppers. So, when you want that 24″ barrel for longer distance shots (and you will), then you’ll be waiting for when & if Ballistic Advantage might eventually get around to producing one. And that’s not cool. If BA and Aero want this gun to really sell, they need to come out with a long barrel model alongside this short one.

        • User

          The thing is why shoot 6.5 at midrange, other Rifles will do better with less recoil and blast, more rounds(weight), more rounds per mag, cheaper. While where you would use 6.5c like long range, a 14,1″ barrel is just stupid.

          Theres no point in paying a lot of money for something that has no good purpose. You wont use it in midrange where you need a short barrel, so theres not even any point in using this barrel lenght.

          • yodamiles

            Agree, it does not make economical sense, however, there are a lot of people who are into battle rifle stuff and run around with .308 sbr. Sure, .308 is cheaper but it just shows that there are people who are more than willing to pay for it.

            Imagine the day when we start seeing 6.5 surplus….LOL

          • User

            6.5Creedmore has similar powder capacity for smaller bore diameter = less bore volume for given barrel lenght = extrem propellant waist, flash, blast, etc. It only makes sence if you want a good range cartridge. Internal ballistics for close range, external for long range. And for both, you need an actually optimized cartridge for the setup.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Sure, if you’re stuffing Superformance or some other slow-ass powder into the cartridge, then you will “waisting (sic)” some propellant with a 14.1″ barrel. The Creedmoor is a fairly compact case for a short action though, so you have better options if you want to avoid a lot of muzzle flash.

          • User

            Its really quetionable to use a 14,1″ barrel with that cartridge, you arent qoing to clear houses with it, which would be the only reason for that barrel lenght. For any other use a longer barrel is better, adequat, and efficient, and has no disadvantage with usual use.

          • ostiariusalpha

            There are also suppressors, of course. Shorter barrels have lessened harmonics issues than longer barrels, so better inherent precision is another advantage of that 14.1″ barrel.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Except that it isn’t stupid at all, bud. If you want to replicate the energy and penetration of 6.5x55mm (and why wouldn’t you, that’s a friggin’ awesome hunting round) in a short action rifle, you’ll use a .260 Rem or 6.5 CM. The .264 caliber is a good performer on large game at midrange, and it kicks less than .308 calibers. You didn’t specify what awesome intermediate action cartridge it was that you’ll be using for larger game, but I’m guessing it’s something pretty dumb.

          • Baggy270

            Length for God sake it’s spelled length

    • JumpIf NotZero

      And do you know what 100-200 fps does at 1000y? Makes a big difference.

      • LilWolfy

        Not really when the BCs are high. I’m not a big fan of this barrel length for the cartridge, but 100-200fps doesn’t mean much to the layman when the BCs are in the high .5s and .6s for G1/.25 to .3 for G7.

        I’ve learned to look more at BC and twist rate than barrel length, although barrel length won’t hurt you other than for maneuverability.

  • Quest

    14.1″ barrel and the company calls itself “Ballistic Advantage”, internal and extrernal ballistics will go to sh***, no ballistic advantage anywhere. What a joke.

    • Quest

      *external

  • Vitor Roma

    Isnt a mid length gas tube overgassed with such caliber? They should have gone with a 17/18 barrel and rifle length gas system.

    • User

      I think that depends on gas port size and piston configuration. But yes it would be much more sencefull to use a longer barrel. You wont use 6.5C at so close range that you even need a short barrel, you use it at long range where a long barrel makes a sicnificant performance diffrence.

  • lostintranslation

    The 6.5C, .264usa, 6.5×47 or similar will, sooner or later, replace the Mil 5.56×45.
    That is the reasonable probability recognised by the industry……hence, it makes sense. 🙂

    • User

      What a bunch of stupid bullshit. There are incredible better cartridges coming, these round will look hilarious in comperasion, remember my words.

      • lostintranslation

        As erudite as ever…..
        Meanwhile, in the real world, as if by magic, more 6.5C offerings appear. Not quite weekly……but, who is counting. 🙂

        • User

          That doesnt mean its good or nearly the slightest bit as good as whats coming… Time will 100% prove me.

  • User

    Less Recoil, significantly flatter trajectory, higher supersonic range and therefore accurate range etc. Better Form Factor = higher efficiency.

    Even tough 6.2 and 6mm still outperforms both in that areas.

  • Tom

    This is one of those areas where even though it sounds cool and does make a handy little precision rifle, it’s a poor choice versus other options (namely .308). Ye olde Winchester round will lose less from the shorter barrel than the 6.5C and has several good factory ammo options for semi-auto rifles. Honestly, it becomes another classic page from the overbore/underbore catridge discussion (which I encourage everyone who is serious about studying small arms cartridge effectiveness to learn and understand). Outside of “because we can and it’s cool”, which is ample reason enough to do anything, there isn’t a practical reason to pick 6.5C to build a short (say, 14″ or less barrel) precision rifle around.

  • LilWolfy

    You need to compare 6.5 CM to the .300 Win Mag or .30-06, not the .308 Win. It trashes the .308 noticeably on steel, and has way higher hit probability than .308 all day long when you actually spend time with both cartridges.

    6.5CM/147 ELD will exceed even the .308/178 ELD for energy by 150yds. Creedmoor has 1 mil of drift at 700yds, .308 has 1 mil at 500, with one of the best bullets you can get for the .308 Win. The 178gr ELD .308 brings the .308 up to a 6.5 Grendel wind drift, with way more than 2x the recoil, heavier rifle, more powder, longer action, penalties, penalties, and more penalties.

    It’s almost 2020 guys. Why people insist on clinging to the .308 Winchester is just a symptom of ingrained behavior in the face of so many things that are better out there.

  • LilWolfy

    Port pressure is way over 25,000psi with that location.

    Erosion is going to be an issue, even with nitriding.

  • unofficialadam

    It’s interesting that some of these responses immediately come from an “us vs. them” viewpoint… “These idiots are trying to dupe me for profits!” As an industry provider, I tend to think we’re on the same team, pursuing the same goals to protect, to defend, and to provide. As I attempt to understand something I prefer not to attack and dismiss, but rather shockingly, I prefer to … wait for it ….. ask why. As someone actively engaged in our capitalist culture, I actually believe that it’s makes the most economic sense for me to produce what is the best for you. You know, that whole fill a need thing.

    *Warning this next part can loosely be called, the logical progression of an argument.

    So if we’re not actively against you and we’re honestly (assuming a lot, I know) aiming to fill a need in our community, why does a 14.1″ 6.5 Creedmoor make sense? I mean seriously, why would anyone ever need a compact suppressed package capable of extreme accuracy and easily deployable in an urban environment where shots rarely exceed 300 yards? Can you help me think of a scenario? I might be able to think of a few but what do I know, I’m just a guy trying to swindle you for another dollar …

  • PRSshooter

    I think everyone seems to miss this part: “Right now, this rifle is a prototype model, and does not have a release date or suggested retail price.”

    Doesn’t sound like they even plan to sell it. Looking on their website, all I see is 18, 20, & 22″ Creedmoor barrels.