Burst Review: CZ Scorpion Carbine

James Grant of Burst Review gets his hands on a CZ Scorpion Carbine. As a fan of the Scorpion Evo3 platform, his review shares the same thoughts I have about the rifle version of the Scorpion.

One aspect James did not mention is that there are different versions of the CZ Scorpion Carbine. For those that do not want the faux SilencerCo suppressor barrel shroud, CZ sells one with a muzzle brake. According to CZ’s webpage, the Faux suppressor rifle has an MSRP of $1,049 and the muzzle brake version is $999.


Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • JSmath

    James said it comes with a Fox suppressor – does that also work on cats and dogs? 😉

    • loudfox

      Everyone knows how loud foxes can get…

      • Jared A. Faber

        What does the fox say?

    • It does, but I found that using a fox as a supressor was more effective and truthfully more ethical than a house cat or dog.

  • USMC03Vet

    I wish they’d come out with more calibers. .45 ACP would be nice.

    • Reef Blastbody


      • Aono

        FFS. This. FFS. They sell it in their Dan Wesson line..

        • Malthrak

          Dan Wesson is a separate sub-organization of CZ based in the US specializing in high end civilian handguns. The Scorpion is a European military SMG designed in slovakia and taken over by the Czechs. Very different lineages, sources, and producers.

      • Ebby123

        Out of an 8IN barrel, a 10MM solid copper slugs will punch through a NIJ LVL-IIIA vest like paper, AND still bring down medium sized game.

        It seems like this approach is WAY better than creating boutique rounds like 5.7, 4.6, etc. I don’t understand why no one sees this??

    • Malthrak

      I would be surprised if that ever happened. The Scorpion was designed by Laugo in Slovakia and then taken up by CZ and designed and intended as a european military SMG, pretty much everything theyve done to it has not been related to the action or base receiver (just putting on new handguards or longer barrels and whatnot) and a major redesign of the internal parts would be required mainly just to service the US civilian market, and a small slice of it at that. .45 PCC’s have not proven hugely popular, theyre bigger and more expensive to make and shoot, Beretta discontinued the CX4 in 45, even Kriss is selling more 9mm guns last I heard than .45, etc.

  • Dan Torres

    This is something I think I’ll get the wife. Nice VC patch by the way.

  • Reef Blastbody

    I’ve got the CZ EVO S3 Carbine, and it’s a fantastic PCC. I agree about the stock safety switch being a pain, and swapped it out with a Gearhead Works piece that flips the lever to the opposite side. So safe now pokes you in the knuckle and flipping it to fire puts it out of the way.

    Also have a Side Project Link Zhukov stock and a Yeti Wurks switchback grip. Early CZ magazines (those with a flat profile on the feed lips) were prone to cracking feed lips, but that issue was addressed months ago. and Manticore Arms just announced 32 round Scorpion magazines with steel reinforced feed lips for SHOT show, MSRP of $29.95, available in Feb/Mar time frame.

    Also, someone tell James that it’s “faux”, pronounced the same as “foe”, not “fox”. 😀

    • Reef Blastbody

      Oh, as Tim Harmsen of Military Arms Channel has demonstrated with his SBR’ed EVO S3 pistol now equipped with the factory Carbine handguard, the factory 8″ barrel, an Omega 9K suppressor fits neatly inside the handguard, with just enough of it protruding to get a strap wrench on it to tighten/loosen it. And you don’t get gassed like you do with a suppressed AR based PCC.

      • pun&gun

        That Scorpion is one of the best-looking rifles I’ve seen in my life. Really has me wanting to do a Tailhook-braced pistol equivalent if the HPA passes into law.

        • Aaron

          It’s not a rifle if it shoots pistol ammo.

          • Nicks87

            Are you sure about that? The term rifle is defined as a weapon fired from the shoulder with a barrel that has a helical groove or pattern of grooves (“rifling”) cut into the barrel walls. We call these weapons pistol caliber carbines but they are still technically rifles.

          • Aaron

            Rifles shoot rifle rounds, for what it’s worth, that’s what I was referring to, not an exact technical definition.

          • Tinkerer

            Okay. Lever guns in .44 Magnum aren’t rifles. Gotcha.

          • Aaron

            Don’t act condescending, I’ve been shooting 25 years, did a tour overseas, and spent a lot on private courses. Big difference in power out of a .44 mag vs a 9mm.

          • Giolli Joker

            So it’s a matter of power, got it.
            I wonder what is called a Ruger 10-22, chambered in the puny .22 Long Rifle round.

          • Tinkerer

            Uhuh, backing up your theory by explaining your superiority. Classy.
            I was just applying your definition to a very common combination of firearm and cartridge. Maybe you could try to refine it a little.

          • iksnilol

            You’re one of them pedantic fellers, ain’t ya.

          • pun&gun

            It’s legally a Short Barreled Rifle. Tim double-stamped it.

          • Ebby123

            The ATF disagrees with you.

          • Mikial

            Aaron, I get what you are saying in regards to the round fired by the gun as not being a rifle cartridge, and, no, I’m not going to launch into some rude debate mode with you as some of the other respondents have. But, you do have to consider that it is the configuration of the firearm, not the round that defines if it is a rifle, carbine or handgun. I agree it’s more of a carbine than a rifle, but consider that there are AR and AK “pistols” that shoot rifle rounds.

  • M-dasher

    i really dont understand the hype around the scoprion…..i mean, if im going to carry something the size of a rifle……its going to shoot rifle rounds…..not 9mm

    i mean, i understand PCCs if you have burst or full auto……….but in a semi i really dont see the benefit.

    i mean, at least give me some benefit and shrink the size down………something like the mechtech carbine or the Keltec sub2000 i can see as a small handy packable rifle.

    but the scorpion i see really selling just because of the name.

    • Aaron

      Pretty much. If I gotta put up with all the hassle that comes with carrying a rifle, it should at least have the power.

      • Joshua Knott

        I think you must of forgotten about the velocity increases from shooting a five inch barrel vs 16, as far as 9mm goes. You end up with 357mag ballistics given the extra velocity .

        • M-dasher

          no…..no you do not…..

          • Joshua Knott

            looks to me about anywhere from 300-440 fps increase across the board,…so what were you saying again??? hahahaha

          • Ebby123

            Actually its more like 100-200fps gain going from 5IN to 16IN barrel. Where are you getting 440 from?

          • Joshua Knott

            well at least you visited the link before saying anything, the median comes in around 200fps across that spectrum provided, but if you look at the “real world guns” section it outlines certain firearms and velocity characteristics. keep in mind they are only testing corbon and federal. Im fairly certain the 147 grain +p pdx round from winchester out of 16 inch barrel moves around 1500 fps. Im trying to find some data

          • Joshua Knott

            they keep pending my comment showing the graph, just go to ballisticsbytheinch. com and type in 9mm luger, these guys have actually done the research…..

        • Aaron

          No, I know about the velocity increases, just saying that a rifle is still better. PCCs have a lot of great things going for them, and I don’t mean they are a bad choice under certain circumstances.

          I’d still rather have a rifle, though.

          • Ebby123

            Short barrel PCCs (so really SBRs or “Brace” pistols) is where the real money is at.

            The ATF is the only reason that 16″ barreled PCCs exist.

    • andrey kireev

      Last time i checked, 9mm was cheaper than 5.56… you can have ergonomics similar to your normal rifle, while spending a lot less money on practicing your shooting.

      • M-dasher

        ….then why not buy a .22 then?…….you can have the exact same ergos as your normal rifle with a round that costs a fraction of what 9mm costs…..

        • Ebby123

          There is (practically) no defensive value in a 22LR, but 9MM is a very effective round inside of 100yds, especially with quality expanding ammo.

          It may not have as much energy PER SHOT as a 5.56 or 300BLK, but lower recoil does a lot to let you get more shots on target faster.

          • Toxie

            Both have negligible recoil, however *My* SBR 223 kicks less then the SBR Scorpion because it weights more (10.5″ barrel) and you can feel the much heavier blowback bolt moving more clearly. YMMV.
            The Scorpion is far “handier” a package then the AR SBR however, and 9mm works fine. M-dash clearly hasn’t shot one (or much).

        • andrey kireev

          You can, that’s up to you, having more options was never a bad thing, am I right ?

    • pun&gun

      Easier to shoot, cheaper to shoot, quieter to shoot, lighter ammo and smaller magazines, less penalty from using a short barrel. Especially if you’re going to suppress it with subsonics anyway, going to a dedicated rifle chambering can be pretty pointless. For home defense and plinking these things are pretty awesome.

      • M-dasher

        “less penalty from using a short barrel”

        i dont really understand this line of thinking……..what difference does it make?

        a “handicapped” .223 is still a hell of a lot stronger than a “strong” 9mm

        • Ebby123

          At lower velocities the spear-shaped 223 projectile has extremely poor tissue disruption, even though it may have more energy than the 9mm. It basically becomes a 22LR because it pokes a single small .22 hole and doesn’t tumble, explode, or expand.

          9mm bullets are designed to work at those speeds via large frontal area, expansion and/or fragmentation – 223/5.56 bullets are not. They perform very poorly on flesh/bone/barriers.

          Also, not what you were asking, but the 9mm doesn’t create a concussion grenade and a blinding flash every time you fire it out of a 7IN barrel. Firing a 5.56 SBR indoors without earpro would likely incapacitate the shooter 😛

          • Toxie

            Well, the lower velocities you’re talking about won’t occur at in-home ranges and .223 is available in a massive plethora of expanding/barrier blind ammunition TOO, so that’s a relatively moot point.
            Obnoxiously loud though, and not nearly as effectively suppressed.

          • Ebby123

            Anything below ~2,500 fps typically results in a .223 “spear”. You lose much more than that going down to 7 or 8in.

        • pun&gun

          As Ebby123 said, .223 rounds don’t perform nearly as well with a velocity reduction, and given that the round was designed to achieve full burn in 20″, most people are already taking a lot of the power out. Chopping that down to subgun/pistol size would really neuter it, whereas the 9mm is optimized for work in handguns, and the slightly longer barrel on a PCC actually adds power to improve the functionality of the bullet designs that already work well. 9mm was meant for that kind of short-range defense against unarmored targets.
          Plus, you get a bigger projectile for more energy when shooting subs. And without subs, even without a suppressor, you’re a lot less likely to blind/deafen yourself.

    • Malthrak

      It’s fun and extremely cheap to shoot, handy and light, looks very cool, decently ergonomic aside from the safety, and for many thats enough. Ultimately 9mm will do the job, perhaps not as effectively as say, .223, but nobody is going to walk away being happy about half a dozen 9mm slugs in them, and I really have zero desire to shoot .223 indoors if worst comes to worst, id like to keep my hearing. The alternative many point to is a shorty 300 blackout, but at $1/round for the good stuff, it costs 4x as much to shoot and is harder to find.

      • M-dasher

        i mean, if im shooting indoors, its going to be with a handgun anyways….you dont really gain much in the way of ballistics and you sacrifice a lot of mobility.

        • Ebby123

          -Recoil control/rate-of-fire.

          That’s what a PCC or Sub-machingun gets you. The ability to hit further, faster, with much more precision while giving up very little in mobility.

          It is true that the 16″ carbine version gives a little more up in mobility over the original SMG version. Personally that configuration wouldn’t be my first choice for home defense, but the SBR/Pistol Brace configuration with the 7″ barrel is nearly the ideal home defense weapon.

      • Ebby123

        That, and the safety delete (to make the right side not jab your hand) is whopping $12. Its 10x easier to install than an AR-15 safety.


        (I have no affiliation with HBI – I just really like the product.)

      • Ebby123
    • iksnilol

      Easy to shoot, cheap to shoot, can be shot at more ranges than a 5.56 can (many indoor ranges, especially in cities don’t allow rifle calibers).

      Also, tolerable with a short barrel unsuppressed.

      So I doubt the name is the selling point (+ it is pretty darn cheap).

    • Toxie

      A SBR’d scorpion is a much smaller package then a SBR’d AR-15 – and I have both. The Scorpion with the stock folded will fit in a Rush12 5.11 backpack, and makes for an uber tiny “real” gun. Can’t do that with an AR.

  • schizuki

    “Fox” suppressor?

    Well, at least he didn’t say “p-soodoh.”

  • michael franklin

    FAUX is pronounced pho (those crazy French)

  • Mikial

    Cool toy. Don’t know why anyone would want a Faux suppressor, but to each their own. I have several different pistol caliber carbines like Just Right Carbines (.45ACP), Hi-Point (.45ACP), and Kel Tec (9mm). All of them work great and all of them are fun to shoot, make great home defense guns, and can be shot at any indoor range even if they don’t allow rifle rounds. And . . . all of them cost a lot less than the CZ with the Just Right being the most expensive at around $750 MSRP. Still, next time I have a thousand bucks to blow I might consider one. As an aside, isn’t it entertaining how many of these internet gun experts love to post videos with lots of scenes of them being macho as they shoot the gun?

  • Bill

    Why can’t we get PCCs in 10mm, .38 Super and .357 SIG?

    • Dakota Raduenz

      Read the very first comment.

      They’ve got to perfect what the market primarily wants (9mm) before branching out. How long did it take before ARs became common in multi-caliber reliable options?

      Things like cracking feed lips, crud safeties, etc. are worked out, and then maybe CZ and the rest will start branching out in earnest.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    This is my top recommendation for a home defense gun.

    Way too many people overlook just how insanely loud their home defense firearms are. I don’t know how it’s possible to shoot an AR-15 chambered in 5.56 at an indoor range and then come away thinking that it’s perfectly suitable for home defense. You’ll be completely deaf for at least a few hours if you ever have to shoot it at a home invader. And there’s a good chance that you’ll rupture your eardrum – which is irreversible damage. Me personally, I don’t want to hear an annoying ringing sound for the rest of my life.

    People that put highly effective muzzle brakes on their home defense AR-15s are especially foolish in my opinion. The AR-15 already has very minimal recoil. All you’ll be doing is increasing the amount of permanent damage that you’ll be doing to your hearing by using those types of muzzle devices.

    If you insist on using an AR-15 for home defense because you’re paranoid about not having enough stopping power, then at a bare minimum put something like a Surefire Warden on it in order to redirect as much of the blast as possible away from your ears. Or better yet, go through the hassle of legally obtaining a suppressor.

    Me personally, I’m perfectly satisfied with having 31 rounds of 147-grain 9mm Federal HST coming out of a 16-inch barrel. That’s more than enough to deal with 99.9% of home invaders. And it’s the quietest setup that you can use for home defense without having to go through the hassle of legally obtaining a suppressor.

    The 5.56 round creates about 167 decibels at the muzzle when fired out of a typical 16-inch AR-15 barrel. In comparison, the 9mm round creates about 150 decibels at the muzzle when fired out of a 16-inch barrel. That’s still not hearing safe, but it won’t completely obliterate your eardrums like an unsuppressed 5.56 AR-15 will.

    And that’s still not the whole story since what we’re really interested in as civilian home owners is what the decibel ratings are at the shooter’s ear. One of the numerous flaws of the AR-15 is that the direct impingement gas system redirects a lot of the expanding hot gas explosion back into the bolt carrier and out the ejection port – which is right next to your right ear. And putting a suppressor on the end of an AR-15’s barrel makes this blowback effect even worse.

    So, a lot of people are actually unknowingly doing permanent damage to their hearing while using suppressed DI AR-15s because the decibel meter is in the wrong place. Who cares what the decibel rating is in front of our muzzle. What we should really be interested in is the decibel ratings back at our ears – which is often over 140 decibels (the safe hearing limit) due to the DI operating mechanism of the AR-15.

    Pistol caliber carbines like this CZ Scorpion Carbine don’t have to worry about this problem. All of the blast gets redirected down the barrel and away from the shooter. So, while I haven’t seen decibel ratings measured at the shooter’s ear for this firearm, my own experience shooting it makes me pretty confident that it’s probably somewhere in the 140s.

  • I really wanna get the muzzle brake one to replace my HP995.

  • Mikial

    Agree completely on the Hi-Point mags. I have one of the older Kel Teks, without the rails, but it shoots nice.

    I had some issues with my JRC when i first got it, but I sent it back to the factory and they did a complete upgrade with several re-engineered components and it works fine now. they are a bit picky on magazines though, even among all factory Glock mags.

    Congrats on your CZ purchase. May you have many hours of enjoyment with it.