7.92mm Kurz lives on in Pakistan!

A TFB reader recently sent me these photos of the “44 Bore” cartridge from Pakistan. Despite much of the Federally Administered Tribal Area’s (FATA) lawlessness, there is a significant legal firearms community in Pakistan. Pakistani law stipulates that military calibers such as 9x19mm, 5.56x45mm, or 7.62x51mm are illegal to own. Thus the Pakistani legal firearms community more or less “creates” alternative cartridges for recreation and sporting usage.

 

 

The 44 Bore is one such cartridge. Forgotten Weapons and ARES have excellent resources on the round, if you want to further investigate the technical particulars of it. But essentially, Pakistani gunmakers have created a chamber that is fitted to 7.92x33mm Kurz, but with a 7.62mm bore. The bore constricts the 7.92mm bullet down to 7.62 as it travels down the barrel. However, these same rifles can fire Kalashnikov 7.62x39mm rounds as well. The casing actually expands within the chamber of the 44 Bore, creating double shoulders, leading to three total shoulders on the neck of the case. I assume extraction and ejection isn’t affected, or else the practice would be popular at all.

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This particular round that was sent in with photos appears to have been head-stamped as 7.62×54, making it an incorrect head-stamping because it isn’t even remotely a rimmed case to begin with. Nonetheless, the case itself is a recovered 44 Bore expended case.

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Much Thanks to TFB Reader Sameed H. for sending these in!





Miles

Infantry Marine, based in the Midwest. Specifically interested in small arms history, development, and usage within the MENA region and Central Asia. To that end, I run Silah Report, a website dedicated to analyzing small arms history and news out of MENA and Central Asia.

Please feel free to get in touch with me about something I can add to a post, an error I’ve made, or if you just want to talk guns. I can be reached at miles@tfb.tv


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  • Ark

    Makes you wonder how many Taliban fighters have been put out of action by their own janky ammunition blowing up in their faces.

    • Dougscamo

      One can only surmise….and smile….

    • El Duderino

      Taliban don’t obey laws like this…

  • Peter (BE)

    Could that be a legit 7,52x54R modified by removing the rim and fireforming?

    • iksnilol

      Sounds like a lot of work.

      • Cattoo

        Yeah but otherwise not being able to shoot your rifle…besides. What else are they gonna do in Pakistan? Watch tv and shoot pool at the local pub? Spin wrenches on their hot rod preparing for the next coffee and cars? I don’t think they mind the work as it could be just one of those things ya just have to do during ones daily routine.

      • Peter (BE)

        Sure is. The lines of the cartridge are not as sharp as on the kurz ammo I ‘ve encountered. And the calibre stamp doesn’t make sense otherwise.

  • iksnilol

    I though this was old news for you? I mean, it’s been on use for a good while in that area.

  • cwp

    So, are rifles chambered in .223 Wylde and .308 legal to own in Pakistan, or are they considered “military calibers”?

    • AJ

      223 308 are legal. Also 9mm is legal too.

  • Bucho4Prez

    life finds a way…as the Goldblum would say

  • Tassiebush
    • iksnilol

      Ribbed for your pleasure 😉

  • mazkact

    I’d be leery of that much squeeze with a pure lead cast bullet but with a jacketed bullet no thanks, I’ll just chunk rocks.

  • Seth Hill

    I could have sworn I had read about a rimless 7.62×54, but I could be wrong. Personally I think that a rimless version would be just the ticket to correct issues in Mosins due to the rimmed cases.

    • Anon. E Maus

      Right, but that’s entirely irrelevant now, 7.62x54mmR is used as a GPMG round and as a DMR round, so that’s belt-feeding (where you’re using a gun which appreciates the prominent rim for extraction), and a double-stacked detachable magazine.

  • Anon. E Maus

    7.92x33mm Kurz still sees some civilian use in Europe, it’s used by some sportsmen and hunters