Zürich Response Teams with Helmet Visor Profile Stocks

Telescoping stocks designed to fit underneath a user’s helmet visor are very popular among a number of European Law Enforcement forces, and have been for some time now. Especially prevalent are Swiss response teams in Zürich, which have been in the news lately due to the violence at a mosque earlier last week. Police forces are installing these Visor profile stocks on MP5s, Sig 551s, and interestingly MP7s as well.

The examples we have of the MP7 are in fact from Germany’s SEK teams, and not with Zürich response teams. The MP7 stock is the ARS stock by Fab Defense, and can be purchased on a Swiss website specializing in LE products.

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ARS Stock Specifications-

Weight 249 gr
Width 30 mm
Height 130 mm
Length 175 mm
Length (open / deployed) 215 mm

In addition to the ARS stock, Zürich officers are also using the popular after market visor stock from Brügger & Thomet AG, made for the companies firearms, but more relevantly for Heckler & Koch stock systems as well. A number of MP5s have the telescoping visor accommodating stock fitted to them.

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Material Aluminum, Polymer
Weight 385 g
Version foldable and length adjustable
Weapon HK MP5, MP5SD
adjusting range 75 mm

But a surprising amount of 5.56x45mm Swiss Arms SG 551s as well. Previously these stocks have been exclusively for submachine gun armed response teams however, due to the escalation of criminal and terrorist tactics in Europe LE forces must be trying to compensate to the threat and bringing in rifles to supplement the submachine guns. I’m slightly confused about which exact version is on the SG 551 though, and I assume it is B&Ts other product that they make for their own rifles and submachine guns, because a Swiss Arms SG 551 has a completely different mounting set up than H&K.

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Miles

Infantry Marine, based in the Midwest. Specifically interested in small arms history, development, and usage within the MENA region and Central Asia. To that end, I run Silah Report, a website dedicated to analyzing small arms history and news out of MENA and Central Asia.

Please feel free to get in touch with me about something I can add to a post, an error I’ve made, or if you just want to talk guns. I can be reached at miles@tfb.tv


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  • wetcorps

    B-but… muh cheekweld D:

    • iksnilol

      Silly Americanos, cheekweld is naught but a crutch which will make you weak.

  • BattleshipGrey

    I’ve never seen helmets that size, is that a more modern riot style?

    • kkellsa

      More like modern bulletproof style, they’re invincible!

      • TheRealKivaari

        These helmets seem to be Zenturio series, and Hoplit C and Hoplit J (the Ops-Core style one), produced by Ulbrichts Protection company of Austria

    • randomswede

      Pure conjecture on my part but GSG 9 have had the “oversized” helmets with integrated earpro/coms since the late 80’ies give or take. I assume the shape/concept spread over time to neighboring forces with similar tasks.
      The GSG 9 helmet is evidently an “AM-95” (suggesting a 1995 introduction) a titanium helmet, first I’ve heard of.

      GSG 9 is essentially the “anti Munich olympics group” and being German I’m thinking they did the German thing and put someone on figuring out what the best possible helmet for going toe to toe with hostage takers would be, and then they built it.

      • iksnilol

        RUssians also have titanium helmets. Heavy but good.

    • micmac80

      helmets have earphones but also much wider coverage than any military helmet.

  • Tassiebush

    I wonder if the visors are bullet resistant? The stocks would only seem logical if the visors offered protection.

    • gb

      They are but only 9mm bullet resistant. A lot heavier than a standard army helmet.

    • Tolia

      I remember what the documentary showed the time as the visor of the helmet sustained shot of 7.62 AK saving the life of a police officer

  • 11b

    Fab’s strategy of throwing everything at a wall to see what sticks has finally paid off with a usable product.

    • Wow!

      Fabs products have been used by a wide variety of security groups for years. It is funny to us who don’t really have a use for it, but most of what FAB makes is based on what has been requested for years or already in existance. For example, these stocks always existed in America when chemical agents were the new big thing. A lot of companies that sold your ordinance or protection would also sell conversion kits to make the 38mms easier to use with riot and other PPE, if not replace it with a purpose built one.

  • Bill

    Nice ID placard on the groin protectors. Some guys will do anything for attention.

    • William Smith

      Progress – Swiss company selling Israeli-made products to German Law Enforcement….

  • Don Howard

    So they are figuring out what the paintball world went to ~30yrs ago? you can’t have a cheek weld with a mask on – but you can still use your shoulder as a contact point *and* use sights 😉

  • Max

    The first picture is clearly showing members of the SEK Baden Württemberg. Look at the patch on the arm of one of the police officer.

    • FarmerB

      Err, didn’t the article say “The examples we have of the MP7 are in fact from Germany’s SEK teams, and not with Zürich response teams.”

      • Max

        You are absolutely right! I’m sorry, I was to fast 🙂