BREAKING: New S&W M&P M2.0 Pistol Drops At Academy

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to polymer pistol lovers everywhere. Back in August, TFB’s own Nathaniel F. penned a post about Smith & Wesson trademarking ‘M2.0’ for use in an upcoming product release. And from the looks of a silent Academy announcement by way of a plain old vanilla new pistol listing, rumors of an upgrade to the S&W M&P pistol line appear to be correct.
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Besides the updated styling and M2.0 markings, the new pistol apparently features a new proprietary corrosion resistant finish, a new trigger assembly, full grip stippling and four grip inserts instead of the three included with the last models.

A search on the Academy Sports website reveals six new M&P’s available for purchase – three chambered in 9mm and three chambered in the beleaguered.40S&W cartridge. Prices for all six are set at $529.99 and are listed as ‘sold in select stores’.

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Smith & Wesson M&P M2.0 Academy Product Page:

The Smith & Wesson M&P M2.0 9mm Semiautomatic Pistol features an M&P M2.0 trigger and includes both a control-enhancing grip texture and 4 interchangeable palm swell grip inserts. This striker-fired pistol also includes a corrosion-resistant Armornite finish and boasts a steel-white dot front sight and steel-white 2-dot rear sight.

Features and Benefits

  • Semiautomatic, striker-fired action with a 17-round capacity
  • Corrosion-resistant Armornite finish
  • Aggressive grip texture
  • 4 interchangeable palm swell grip inserts
  • M&P M2.0 trigger
  • Steel-white dot front sight and steel-white 2-dot rear sight
  • Important Product and Safety Information

We recommend the use of protective eyewear whenever using or near the use of this item.

What’s in the Box:
Smith & Wesson M&P M2.0 9mm Semiautomatic Pistol

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For comparison, here are a few images of the M&P pistols currently listed on Smith & Wesson’s web page:

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So, was this an intentional product release organized by both Smith & Wesson and Academy Sports or a mistake adding a new pistol into a inventory database before an official launch? With the 2017 SHOT Show just a month away, common sense dictates the release of the updated M&P pistol would have occurred sometime in the next few weeks anyway.

Even though I bow to the Glock Gods, I’m looking forward to giving this new S&W a shot.



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  • They somehow made it look like a Canik…

    • Michael Arrington

      Oh now that is crap. They don’t look a bit like a Canik. Surely you jest.

        • n0truscotsman

          Thats a pretty sharp looking handgun. It looks to me like a modified improved derivative of the USP.

        • Sgt. Stedenko

          At least the Turks can match their polymer and slide.
          The retards at S&W seem to have failed

          • Herr Wolf

            Like FN’s SCAR

          • Sgt. Stedenko

            Bingo.
            You would think for a $2,400 rifle, you could not make it look like something from Fisher Price

          • Eggcelent

            I like to think my SCAR is all inclusive FDE..

          • Sgt. Stedenko

            You do have a lot more options when it comes to color matching accessories

          • Pete – TFB Writer

            I like the two tone FDE look on this pistol and the SCAR. Gives it depth.

      • hdatontodo

        “I’m not jesting, and don’t call me Shirley.”

    • ProLiberty82

      Like a Canik with a touch of USP somehow.

    • GaryOlson

      Is that a fair comparison to our Canadian friends?

  • Armornite is S&W’s trademarked name for their current nitride treatment, replacing Melonite.

  • Slab Rankle

    These upgrades don’t merit a 2.0 designation, but I guess calling it M1.5 would be bad marketing.

    • JSmath

      Almost agree with you since it seems like minor ambi, switch size/shape changes, and the interchangeable grips are all that is happening – all old hat by now, for sure, and not truly worth calling another gun.

      Yet there is one distinct change obvious in the pictures that warrants the designation – a possibly modular chassis. The new front windows are obviously a hypothetical nightmare for dirt/mud ingress, except in showing the model and serial number, it seems to make it clear that the ‘firearm’ can be removed from the grip and inserted in others, akin to how the P320 works.

      That sort of difference is going to mean a lot as far as what people can and can’t do to their firearms, and they’re nipping the problem in the bud as far as possible conflicts with aftermarket accessories that are incompatible between the two significant generations.

      • Pete – TFB Writer

        That’s what I thought at first, but accident or not, the product release should have listed modularity at the top of the list if this were the case.

        Still, very insightful. Thanks.

        • Ernesto A. Alcala

          Wondering what the 2.0 trigger is? Prob an Apex trigger and hopefully it would come standard on all 2.0 triggers.

        • Stan Darsh

          It would have been nice if S&W went that extra mile with the 2.0 revision, but the evidence shows otherwise. The MHS trial instantly up-selected the Sig P320, Beretta APX and Detonics STX, which are the only truly modular pistols using serialized self-contained trigger packs and interchangeable frames. On tops of that, the M&P has both grip panels and roll pins in the frame, which would be wholly unnecessary for a modular pistol.

          • Pete – TFB Writer

            All very solid points. Thanks.

          • TCBA_Joe

            With a P320 frame costing $40, having a modular grip with inserts is still a good idea. There are other reasons to develop a non-serialized frame module.

      • The 2.0 is an outgrowth of the company’s military pistol project it has been working on for several years. The new guns have been referred to as second generation M&P pistols in the company’s investment documents for a couple of years now. I suspected that we would see these introduced at the SHOT Show since S&W had been eliminated from the military trials.

        I would guess there are more changes than just a refreshed look. A modular chassis would certainly be a significant change from the prior generation.

      • They’ve also significantly bobbed the beavertail, and the breech/ejection port seem beefier and larger.

        I hadn’t even noticed at first, but those do look more like cutouts than just depressions, so you may be on to something with the modularity hypothesis; it always seemed odd to me that S&W looked like it was just submitting an upgraded M&P to the competition, since the parameters specified a modular design.

    • Sam

      Not that much different than changes between Glock G3 and G4. If I remember correctly, all the G4s changed was the depth of the grip (to accommodate the new grip panels), grip texture, and the introduction of the two piece recoil spring assembly.

  • Tet

    What’s with the square and rectangular slot cut out of the frame? Weight reduction? Seems like it’ll jam easily if debris gets in.

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      I had similar thoughts. Weird.

    • Intellectual Slacker

      I was wondering if it was for some type of mount

    • ARCNA442

      It looks like the serial number – on the old M&P it was above the grip but I don’t see anything there on the M2.0.

      • Sam

        Yeah serial number and that weird digital/pixelated square mark thing most manufacturers are putting on their firearms these days.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          It’s just called a 2D barcode. Not always “QR” like some people think.

    • Greebles. Gives it texture so it doesn’t just look like a low-poly sprite from a distance.

    • ProLiberty82

      Probably something left over from the MHS trails, might be something to do with the “modularity” aspect so that was the most convenient place to have the serial numbers or maybe for some kind of optic mount assist?

  • Gregory

    So, have they fixed the “don’t breath on it too hard” magazine release that drops magazines way too easy?

    • Curious_G

      Yeah – fixed that immediately after they were released – about a decade ago now.

  • Bryan Miller

    Sucks they eliminated the beavertail.

    • MrFN

      I just slapped myself, there was something weird looking about it! I agree, why would you get rid of that?

    • Brian Bomar

      I agree… I thought the beavertail was something that set it apart

  • Looks like Academy pulled the listings.

    • ProLiberty82

      Was probably a fluke listing, bet they where supposed to have the reveal at SHOT Show 2017 with a “In stores now!”.

  • You don’t Bow to the Glock gods, it’s more of a bending over

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      I think this was supposed to be a Glock joke, but I’m not sure.

    • valorius

      Just don’t shoot yourself in the leg in the process.

      • Pete – TFB Writer

        Ok, that joke I get.

        • valorius

          Hopefully you don’t ever get it literally. 😉

          • Pete – TFB Writer

            I’m the only one professional enough here to…

            (Insert bang here)

  • Stephan Koopmans

    “M2.0 trigger” – I always heard the M&P triggers were the main drawback to the lineup compared to the competition. Hopefully the new version would make an upgrade less necessary.

    • Sam

      Personally, I think their triggers are alright, but I also HATE the hinge trigger/two piece trigger thing they have going on (as well as the FNH striker-fired pistols).

      • Bullphrog855

        If you have the fundamentals down, the M&P trigger will get you where your going. It isn’t going to make or break the gun unless you’re looking for excuses for being a poor shot.

      • Flounder

        Sam I am right there with you on the two piece trigger. I ended up replacing it with an APEX just to get rid of the hinge.

        And bullphrog, pistols are a personal thing, like underwear. And that hinge is one ugly butt flap, with buttons. it works. There are just better options.

        • Bullphrog855

          I’m not saying you can’t use what you prefer, I’m saying is that it’s trigger isn’t the game breaker people make it out to be.

          • Jack

            Or the deal changer.

          • Jack Morris

            i see what you did there…

          • Xtorin O’hern

            for me the trigger pull on the M&P wasn’t the deal breaker, it was the god awful reset

    • yamalink

      True. A stock p320 trigger feels/is even better than a lightly modded Apex’d M&P. And with CZ’s new P10 it’ll put more pressure on the likes of S&W to produce a much better trigger.

      • TCBA_Joe

        I know it comes down to opinion, but I threw a full metal APex trigger, DCAEK, and RAM in my M&P and the trigger is basically as close to a mass production 1911 as exists in a striker gun. Much better feel than the P320.

        However, that was $165 is parts for a gun that is about the same starting price as a P320 so I’d agree that it’s a much better out of the box trigger-value than an M&P.

      • guest

        That varies. I’ve handled a number of P320s and tried the triggers. Some are outstanding. Some are heavy and gritty. SIG seems to be having some QC problems.

    • Brian Bomar

      I have 4 different M&P’s all 9mm and my oldest was produced in mid 2015… I really don’t have an issue with the triggers… I actually like them. Maybe the earlier variations were not as good.

    • TW

      True. I love the ergos much better than my Glock. But the trigger is awfull.

      • Baggy270

        What the triggers on Glocks are way worse than M&P’s….I have both by the way.

    • CavScout

      For a $350-400 new pistol, the trigger isn’t something you notice except when you purposefully want to examine the trigger. It’s not a neccesary upgrade, and feels plenty acceptable with a little break in. My M&P’s have been 100%, they are well designed internally, and worth a lot more than you pay.

    • BeoBear

      My M&P40 was built November 2012 and the trigger was so bad that I initially thought it was broken from the factory. It was so crunchy my groups looked like they were shot during a massive earthquake. Honestly it was so bad it was unsafe to use as a home defense gun (it’s original purpose) so it went into out of commission status until 6 months ago when I bought the Apex DCAEK kit for it. I haven’t taken it to the range yet but the dry firing feels like a whole different gun and a very good gun at that. If S&W introduced a Mod 2 of the M&P without a trigger upgrade it would have disastrous. That’s also assuming they did away with the terrible way they pivoted.

      The only other issue with the M&P was being slicker than a used car salesman. I don’t want to put a bunch of stippling on mine so I’m planning to add a Hogue grip sleeve to it. Way cheaper than stippling and I’m not permanently changing the gun which potentially reduces resale value. I’ve used them on Glocks and I love them.

      I’d like to try one of the new models but I’ve finally got my 1st gen dialed in to be just where I want it. I think S&W should have equipped even the base models with “optics ready” cutouts, it won’t be long before miniature red dot sights are standard features on most guns.

    • Treiz

      Triggers are a training issue. MY M&P must be broke as I have no problem keeping it in the 10 ring bone stock. People need to stop trying to buy skill and put in the time at the range IMHO. >.>

  • JSIII

    Kinda weird that this news hit the streets without any reviews being done first

  • valorius

    I like it.

  • valorius

    I didn’t realize .40S&W was beleaguered.

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      The pendulum is definitely swinging towards 9mm these days.

      • valorius

        To be totally honest i’ve always viewed .40S&W (and .41AE) as a marketing gimmick to snag people who couldn’t decide between 9mm(.355) and .45acp.

        I’m a 9mm guy myself.

        • It was a hella successful marketing gimmick for a couple of decades, though. People are just starting to move back to a PICK A SIDE, WE’RE AT WAR attitude regarding the big/slow v. small/fast difference of opinion, most likely thanks to the fact that .40 never really got cheap enough to justify its own existence as a trade-off round.

          • Audie Bakerson

            Prehaps the HPA will help the pendulum swing to .45

          • Stephen Paraski

            Grew up with .45. Carried a Colt Combat Commander as back up, small of back carry, personal working streets of Detroit in 90s and it saved my life twice. Son has Glock 21s, 1st Gen LEOs. I have come around to plastic. That is why there are 31 Flavors. To each his own. I know many poor, honest people in Detroit that can not and would not spend a months housing or medication on a weapon for personal defense. Choices abound, let he who chooses be free from ridicule, concentrate effort on keeping that freedom to choose.

          • n0truscotsman

            I think of the 40 as a feat of goal post moving logic and strawgrasping by certain parties to convince others they weren’t “wrong” in their decision.

            IMO, the entire cartridge was born because the followers missed the point entirely: the Miami shootout should’ve invoked discussions about patrol rifles, not another pistol cartridge. And modern semi-automatic, magazine-fed handguns.

            The importance of the two over another pistol cartridge seemed to have gained unstoppable traction, fortunately.

          • valorius

            Miami 86 was a failure of bullet construction as much as anything else, IMO.

          • SomeRandomGuy

            More of a failure of effective shot-placement….at least initially.

          • valorius

            Murphy just reminded everyone that he’s still the boss.

          • Dougscamo

            Disqus still sucks! Haven’t gotten notifications in 2 days….the first shot placed on the rifleman….according to what I learned in LE training during the transition phase…was an unsurvivable side-to-side double lung shot….and the last shots by the FBI were fired by shotgun…
            Pistols suck….

          • n0truscotsman

            Yes ^ this

          • CommonSense23

            If anything Miami was a testament of not believing your own hype. The FBI has always pushed the idea that they are both gunfighters and investigators. When they actually went up against two people who were willing to fight and actually could it showed it is really hard to be both.

          • ARCNA442

            The saddest part is they already had both but various mistakes took them out of play. There were agents on the case who were equipped with M16’s and MP5’s, but they didn’t make it to the scene until the fight was over. Further, several of the agents who were in the fight had semiautomatic pistols but lost them in the initial contact and had to engage with backup guns.

          • n0truscotsman

            The FBI making an arrest in those circumstances was already a huge WTF IMO. Thats a job best suited for those who actually do high risk traffic stops/arrests regularly: the state police.

            Im of the opinion of what Commonsense23 said: they believed their own ‘gunfighter/agent’ hype.

        • 22winmag

          No, .40S&W is just a plenty-sufficient, real-world shootable 10mm. It’s a toned-down race car suitable for street use… but there will always be people who love to point out “hey it’s not a race car”.

          • iksnilol

            If you mean take 10mm and then remove everything that makes it attractive then yeah, it’s “toned down”.

          • DaveP

            Like the need for a .45- sized frame and magwell, right? Whereas you can stuff .40 in pretty much any 9mm sized frame. Compare the grip and frame size of a G20 vs a G22 and you’ll see what I mean.

            I’ve carried both. Unless you’re part polar bear, .40 is s lot easier to handle than 10. Besides, most non-botique 10mm is downloaded to “hot .40” these days.

          • valorius

            I really don’t see how it’s any better than 9mm. But i see several ways in which it’s worse. Shrug.

          • Erik B

            Really? much fatter, and delivers a 165G pill at the same speed a 9mm delivers 124G. Physics dictates that equals more energy and wound cavity.

          • valorius

            Much fatter? forty five thousands of an inch is much fatter? Not hardly.

        • Theres certainly no lack of police trade in .40 guns on the market now…

          • Humpy

            Yes, bought a S&W M&P .40 for $309 with night sights, three magazines, three grip panels, and original box in excellent condition.
            I have small hands and this is one of the only pistols that fits my hand well besides the 1911, and Hi power.
            The trigger could be a little better but it’s not bad at all.
            Personally I like the .40 cartridge, I also buy all my ammunition online and it’s not much more than 9 mm.

        • tarnishedcopper

          Same here! IMHO anything less than a .45 is a compromise.

      • 9mm is a remarkably good pistol cartridge, and has stuck around because it’s remained a good round even as circumstances change.

        .40 is OK, too, but I think it was always doomed to fade with time without a major military adoption. That’s OK, says I, as I think 9mm is slightly better.

        .45 and 10mm are in an interesting reversal of that situation. 10mm is the better round of the pair, but .45 ACP has the power of age and acceptance behind it. So, we could easily imagine the situation being reversed with the .40 and 9mm, too.

        • .357 Sig

          .357 Sig here, just wanted to make sure you all aren’t forgetting about me…

          • valorius

            I like .357 sig, but most companies seem to just load it to 9mm+P+ power levels. What happened to the 125gr @ 1450 fps .357 magnum theory behind it’s creation? I don’t know.

          • .357 SIG in most cases isn’t getting anything for its extra velocity. There are exceptions, like some LEOs who need the ability to shoot through barriers or something (I hear this is why the Secret Service uses it, although I don’t really know anything about that), but for most people and LEOs the duty of a handgun is to shoot at unarmored targets at very close range in circumstances where immediate defense is needed. .357 SIG has a pretty big surplus of power for that role, which comes with penalties in recoil and magazine capacity.

          • Drew Coleman

            Who let you out of the corner?

      • Y-man

        Aaaaaaand…. 9mm exists all over the world! .40S&W seems to be an American calibre.
        A “friend” of mine [Wink-wink!] got a .40S&W M&P C. In training and testing, quickly ran out of the 50 rounds initially got.

        Did some research, and discovered the 9mm conversion pack.
        Is a HAPPY CAMPER now! 9mm available just down the block! EVERYWHERE!

        • JSmath

          There are actually still a fair share of police forces using .40SW. It’s actually banned from civilian purchase in a few of those places, too.

          • Norm Glitz

            “Actually”?

          • Y-man

            Globally? Wow. Definitely NOT in my neck of the woods [Nigeria]…

          • hdatontodo

            You didn’t send me my lottery winning FBI ATM card

          • Jack

            This is what pisses me off.Police are damn civilians too!!! You putting on a uniform and working for a LEO agency doesn’t constituent people being called civilian which is a term that should be left to the military but wait,most of the new breed of police like to mimic the military but most didn’t have the balls to serve!!!

  • I’m not sure what those greebles above the accessory rail are meant to accomplish, but at least they reduced the HSLDLOL forward serrations to some decorative scalloping right above them.

    Boooooooo for the New York Ninny Switch, though; I’m happy with my M&P45.1.0 as a sidearm and not looking to update it, but if I was I’d be looking somewhere else unless the new model also has an option without the ridiculous atavistic manual safety.

    • Richard

      They probably have a model without a manual safety.

  • LazyReader

    Smith and Wesson’s new website is terrible

    • Herr Wolf

      Now it matches their guns

  • ProLiberty82

    That loaded chamber indicator looks like it might make a CORE model problematic, nice to see they have a 5″ model right out the gate. Hope they made a G19 15rd model this time, and a modern 13-15rnd (flush fit) .45 upgrade would be nice.

  • Amanofdragons

    The new slide vaguely reminds me of a desert eagle.

  • USMC03Vet

    Needs more legalize on the side. I’m not a lawyer but I play one on the internet.

  • jackalope

    I wonder how much interchangeabilty there will be with 1.0, barrels and mags at least, I hope.

  • Twilight sparkle

    Knowing academy… I have a feeling smith and Wesson didn’t want this to happen. Probably was supposed to wait till closer to shot

  • Harry’s Holsters

    They go rid of the beavertail which is good but the still have that crapy trigger show curve. I hope it’s compatible with APEX components because the longslide variant looks very intriguing.

  • 22winmag

    Just what the world needs.

    More thumb safeties and more 5 inch “longslides”.

    • Jack Burton

      Agreed!

      • Hoth

        Ditto! Every semi-auto needs a manual safety.

        • Jack Burton

          That’s certainly my preference, at least with the de facto single action striker pistols that are so popular at the moment. I prefer a decocker with DA/SA guns. Honestly, I think HK’s LEM and pistols like the P250 are good compromises and really wish they’d catch on more as defense/duty guns.

  • Big Al

    I hate glocks,their grip angle makes you shoot high left & always with fliers.The Smith M&P shoot to point of aim.I shoot out the first two circles at 5,10,15 yds.

  • Blain

    Nobody else interested in raising the religious question of why the .40 was referred to as beleaguered? That was the only thing that took me by surprise in three article.

    Good eyes and kudos to whomever found the slip up…

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      Don’t read too much into the term. The definition for beleaguered in this case is “under stress” or “having difficulties”.

      In the past five or so years, there has been a definitive move away from .40S&W and towards 9mm. The poor cartridge is beleaguered.

      Look, I have plenty of .40, but long live 9mm! 🙂

    • Bill

      There are enough .40s in LE armories that it isn’t going away soon. They may eventually get traded for 9s or 45s, and then go back into circulation as low priced police trade-ins. No one calls the 10mm or .41 Mag “beleaguered,” and there are far more .40s in the wild than them. At worst it and the .357 SIG become similar niche cartridges.

      • Jack Morris

        I think .40 is going to get more popular in the civilian market as police stations across the country switch back to 9mm. There will be a lot of cheap “police trade-ins” and new shooters will probably swipe them off the shelves quicker than bread & milk before a snow storm.

      • .41 Mag isn’t “beleaguered”, it’s all but dead.

        • Bill

          Not really, it’s a niche cartridge that has a small number of supporters. It’s no different than other less popular cartridges like the .327 Federal or any wildcat. “Dead” is a little extreme.

      • Kivaari

        The 10mm and .41 magnum as well as the .357 SIG are all niche cartridges. With nearly 50 years of being in the gun business I have sold less than a dozen 10mm and .41 magnums and never sold a .357 SIG. I used to sell quite a few .40s, even bought two of them myself (and sold them) but have only sold a couple in the last 3 years. Granted I don’t work that much anymore, just a few hours per week. But the store I help out in, just doesn’t see interest in those calibers. Even 1911s have slowed up dramatically. Glocks, S&W M&Ps, HK VP9s lead the sales. Single Action revolvers are especially slow as well. Regionally it makes a huge difference. There isn’t a great deal of Cowboy Action or IDPA shooting going on anymore.

      • Treiz

        “beleaguered” would be a vast improvement in the situations of 10mm and .41 Mag.

    • Because it’s dying very slowly.

      • Dougscamo

        VVVEEERRRRYYY SSSLLLOOOWWWLLLYYY….

  • Hoplopfheil

    Good god, those front fish scale serrations still look like a machining accident.

    Please remove them or make them look less like a mistake, eh?

    • Big Al

      dont buy one-i like them,I like my pistol to look different,who wants vanila ice cream 24/7.

      • Jack Morris

        Vanilla ice cream is top notch.

      • Hoplopfheil

        A big ugly gouge taken out of the side of the frame would also look different, but not maybe in the way you think.

      • Sunshine_Shooter

        Everyone who owns a Glock…

    • Dr. Mangum

      I was thinking almost the same thing. It really does look like a student screwed up on their machining 101 project. It doesn’t completely ruin the pistol, but it does look really ugly.

    • J.E.Walker

      Amen!

    • Madcap_Magician

      I also think they look like a machining mistake, but I don’t think they’re ugly. Just… unnecessary. What purpose do they serve?

  • 22winmag

    Just what the world needs. More thumb safties and 5 inch “longslides”.

    • Big Al

      the 1911 has a 5in “long slide”-yawn.

    • kcshooter

      You can clearly see they offer both with and without the ambi thumb safety, and a 5″ barrel does not qualify as long slide.
      Why are you talking?

  • DanGoodShot

    Whats with the button (?) In front of the slide stop? Looks good. I’d like to shoot one.

    • Mmmtacos

      I was wondering the same thing, definitely looks like something you can actuate, but I can’t think of what purpose it may serve.

      • DanGoodShot

        I was woundering if it might be some sorta new fangled slide release. That would be useful and cool as hell. Something actually new and innovative.

  • Richard

    Please understand that this pistol is S&W’s submission for the US Army’s Modular Handguns System. All design decisions were made to meet that specification. The Army “down selected” to the top finalists in the competition and S&W fell out. Expect to see similarly outfitted pistols from other manufacturers. This does not mean that the entire industry has suddenly lost sight of what the average consumer wants, they just need to make back the money spent on the competition.

    • TechnoTriticale

      And I would expect that almost none of the XM17 MHS runner-ups are going to market their commercial “investment recovery” models as such (due to being perceived as losers).

      • Stan Darsh

        If that happened, it would be the first time. Every pistol going back to the original 1977 USAF trails through the JCP to today’s MHS trial includes the Beretta 92, FN BDA/GP/FA, Walther P88, HK VP70, HK P9S, HK P7, HK P7M13, SIG P226, SIG P228, S&W 459, Steyr GB, Star M28, Beretta PX4, FN FNP45, HK45c, Glock 21SF, Para LDA, Ruger P345, SIG P220 Combat, S&W M&P45, Springfield XD45, Taurus PT24/7, Detonics STX, SIG P320, Beretta APX, S&W M&P2.0, Glock 22, HK VP and the Walther PPQ. Out of all of those entrants, the only one not to be sold to the public was the Colt SSP, but that seems to be another occurrence of ineptitude from Colt’s Board of Executives rather than embarrassment from military-run trials.

      • TCBA_Joe

        The Joint Combat Pistol trials brought the civilian market several new guns.

        MHS is already bringing us the P320, APX, M&P2, and others. They might not market having lost or playing a part in that contract, but they want to recoup their cash, especially if it’s an entirely new line of models.

    • A Fascist Corgi

      I want to know why they failed to meet the cut. My best guess is poor performance in extreme environment tests.

      • Drew Coleman

        Actually I’d wager it’s the trigger design – hinge vs tab.

  • Minuteman

    Don’t look at me LT, the Gunny’s right.

  • Ryguy

    I just want to know if fixed the 9mm accuracy issues.

    • Treiz

      They fixed that back in 2012 IIRC. My 2013 M&P 9 has no accuracy issues.

      • Biggiewood

        My early 12 FS 9 has no accuracy issues.

        I handed it to the RSO to confirm. 🙂 (He’s a better shot).

  • Bob

    what?? no 45 ACP?
    looks kind of like they copied the FN/ FNX series..

  • Edeco

    What are those two trapezoidal holes above the railds? Modular metal frame part in there? They remind me of scuppers. I hope it’s not just styling.

    • noob

      Yeah, I was wondering if it lets gunk drain out of the dust cover and recoil spring assembly.

  • Raginzerker
    • Biggiewood

      OMG!

      Warnings people, WARNINGS! I just had lunch!

  • Libertytarian

    I do not understand why did they keep that original trigger design. Just drop that trigger safety bs and do it like the SIG P320. I hope S&W is smart enough to come out with a mid-sized (G19 size) 9mm.

    • Travis

      That’s exactly what I was thinking! That M&P trigger “safety” is going to get someone killed. I don’t know how many times I grabbed the shield and couldn’t fully depress the trigger because I ride it high. APEX was the fix, but who wants to buy a gun that they instantly have to put a trigger in?

    • TCBA_Joe

      I’d agree they should have used a tabbed trigger. But the entire M&P would have to be completely revamped to do what SIG accomplished to avoid the trigger safety. (IE: drop safety)

  • A Fascist Corgi

    I wonder if it still malfunctions when dunked in water like the older version.

  • FormerlyJason

    I don’t understand why they chopped the beavertail. So now it’s possible to get M&P bite? Seems a bit ridiculous, I hope one of those new back straps has a Glock Gen4 style beavertail.

  • 22winmag

    Testing 123

  • Mmmtacos

    Sold my M&P9 a while back. Good gun, but wasn’t in love with it.

    Got a M&P Shield 45 and the changes to the grip and trigger make a helluva difference. I might have to pick an M&P M2.0 up in the future…

  • Brian Bomar

    I would have thought the beaver tail would have been kept… I am interested in what the “tactile” LCI will be like… I have four of the current production M&P’s so I am hoping both new and old will use a common magazine… looks like they also shaved some weight off the slide (kinda like the current Pro models)… What purpose could the holes in the dust cover serve? Different shaped mag releases so those parts will not swap… maybe the 4th included back strap will include a beavertail like the gen4 glocks… and what’s up with the slide release?

  • Brian Bomar

    Oh… and if ANYONE from S&W is reading this. Please bring out a 10mm already… you guys have totally giving Glock the entire “woods pistol” market!

    *Hint* make that 10mm a 5″

  • Joe Gamer

    I’m going to jump on the bandwagon and also say that I can’t stand the two piece triggers in these. There are only two guns I’ve ever sold out of my collection, The almost great M&P 9C and the terrible to shoot(IMO) shield in “beleaguered” .40 s&w.

  • anonymous

    I’m wondering what is in front of the slide catch on the left side….

  • brian

    Also the slide is completely redesigned and the frame has air venting built in presumably to help keep things cooler during prolonged sessions. How’d you miss this in the article bro?? The slide has forward half serrations and is re-contoured topside from the muzzle to the rear for 3/4 the entire length. Wonder how this has affected weight, lock time etc? …looks like the slide design had some ergo improvements considered by engineers and would allow a more positive grip when manipulating the slide with the nice slimming to serrations transition point located 3/4 off the way back from the muzzle. Also the new coating…Wonder if it’s just a fancy Mennonite/nitride trade name or if it’s actually something substantial like tenifer!? ….figures this happens as soon as I throw down cash on one on black Friday! I have no friggin luck!

  • Whelp it ain’t ugly thats for sure

  • CavScout

    I guessing the ‘leak’ was intentional.

    Hope this doesn’t mean the M&P will cost a lot more going forward. I know things don’t stay at MSRP for long, but that’s not a low price. I’d use the newest original version to save some cost on stippling, extra milling and molding in the frame and slide, even the trigger, etc.

  • Bobd06

    I have an M&P Pro 9mm with a 5″ slide. My trigger’s fine, I’m the problem! Practice practice practice! It works.

  • Tony

    Maybe someday a manufacturer will make a FDE gun where the colors actually match between the parts. The SCAR looks like a parts gun and this thing is kinda, sorta, a botched up two-tone.

  • Treiz

    I miss the beaver tail but otherwise it looks great. I hope the front of the trigger guard is stippled, would save me the trouble.

  • L. Roger Rich

    Canik series pistols half the price.

    • kcshooter

      Canik series pistols half the quality.

      • L. Roger Rich

        Really. The trigger is one of the best. Comes with 2 15rd mags, holster and mag loader. Very quality. Very accurate and around only $350 complete. i’d put mine against a S&W anyday.

        • kcshooter

          Yes, I’m sure your Turkish handgun (named only after the town in which it was manufactured, and was recalled within months of its introduction) is just as good as an American-Made Smith & Wesson handgun. That makes sense to me.

          Just because you are a fan of your low-buck import gun doesn’t mean you have to make obviously foolish statements about them.

          • Leigh Rich

            Never had a recall for Canik PT9SF or PT9SF. S&W did somehow made it look like a Canik . KCShooter there is nothing foolish about what I said. I just don’t agree with you. Let me know when you get your S&W M2.0 and we can do a comparisons at the range.

          • kcshooter

            Even your math skills are foolish.

            $350 is not half the price of $450.

          • Leigh Rich

            Wow slap you back like a liberal. OK. We can get together and I will bring my PT9SF and you can take the M2.0 you own and we can meet at an in door range and see which one shoots best.

  • EB71

    What’s the new thingamabob between the slide release and the takedown lever?

  • cisco kid

    The option of the manual safety is a big plus for me. It cost me quite a bit of money to have the Cominolli manual safety put on my Glock.
    The slide serrations are different but do not bother me.
    I do wish or hope you may have the option of tritium factory sights.
    I can get used to the hindged trigger but I have yet to see any trigger safety Glock, Walther or Smith actually work as intended as anything entering the trigger guard will set the gun off. It simply gives one a false sense of security and that is why I like the option of a manual safety. With my Cominolli manual safety I now no longer break out in a cold sweat every time I handle my Glock. At least when you buy the Smith you do not have the added expense of having to pay for a custom installed manual safety as you already have one on the gun and if you do not like the manual safety you never have to use it either but when I load or unload my Glock the Cominolli manual safety is always in the “on” position as its just another safety measure that prevents me from having an accident. Since I am human and can make a mistake the extra peace of mind made the addition of the manual safety worth every penny I paid for it. With the Smith the manual safety is free.

  • NiteGoat

    “Drops”? Were they performing a drop test?

  • Blue

    Still looks like the same old garbage M&P line that will be the darling of every internet operator and poser “Recoil Web” magazine reader… Only now with “Xtra Tacticool” and an even more toy-like look. Oh and it’s still got the “broken by design” thing they try to pass off as a trigger, I see. M&P’s (all of them) are POS guns for people who shoot more pictures OF their guns then they do bullets OUT of them.

    • urmom

      u mad bro? hate much?

  • Bonzaipilot

    Why would you refer to the 40 S&W as beleaguered? The 40 S&W isn’t in trouble or under siege.

    • kcshooter

      More and more police departments and government agencies are switching to 9mm from .40 s&w every year. The cartridge is indeed loosing ground.

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      Surely you jest.

    • Cottersay

      Bonzaipilot made a funny.

  • hdatontodo

    and Maryland has a handgun roster so we’ll have to see if some dealer needs to submit a 2.0 for inspection before it can be sold (months later)

  • iac4357 .

    I,ve never had a problem w/ the M&P 9 trigger; whether in Slow or Rapid multi target shooting.
    Don,t understand all the Hate’n !