The Honey Badger Is BACK? Meet the New Honey Badger 2.0, from Q

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Honey badger doesn’t give a crap, it gets right back up like nothing happened.

Dormant for two years after Remington’s announcement that it would come to market, the Honey Badger has appeared again, but not with Remington. Pictures “Honey Badger 2.0” from Kevin Brittingham’s new company Q have been posted to SoldierSystems.net, with the cryptic caption “Well, I guess we can show it now.” Does this mean Q intends to bring the Honey Badger 2.0 to market? We don’t yet know.

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Kevin Brittingham looks on as another gentleman inspects the Honey Badger 2.0. Image source: soldiersystems.net

 

The new rifle is clearly different than previous Honey Badgers, with clearly different lines on its upper, lower, and stock assemblies. Still, we don’t yet know if the differences are only cosmetic, or functional improvements over the original.

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The Honey Badger 2.0 perched atop a Chevrolet. Image source: soldiersystems.net

 

Possibly the biggest splash of the year 2011 was the .300 AAC Blackout, and the adorable AAC Honey Badger carbine chambered for it. While the .300 BLK went on to become an industry hit, the Honey Badger remained an object of desire, but not for sale. In 2014, Remington announced that the Honey Badger would come to market, but two years and the rocky R51 program later, and that hasn’t come to pass.

Advanced Armament Corp. named the Honey Badger after the African carnivorous mammal that became famous through a viral YouTube video. However, in the Winter of 2011, AAC’s founder and President Kevin Brittingham left the company. Now, with Q, Kevin has put together a “dream team” of talent, including AAC and SIG veteran Ethan Lessard. Their first project is the “El Camino”, a .22 caliber suppressor intended to solve an accuracy problem with existing suppressors that Q discovered.



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • iksnilol

    Sooo… how are you going to use the (preusmably) M-lok vents where the suppressor is?

    • Beju

      To burn M-lock vent shaped marks into my hands.

      • Anonymoose

        Then you can hold you hand up to show that you are a True Operator.

        • Beju

          Which I can then parlay into a Magpul sponsorship.

          • ozzallos .

            And start your own youtube channel featuring product placement and promotional plugs. BRILLIANT!

          • Beju

            LOOK OUT VICKERS I’M COMING FOR YOU WITH MY GOPRO AND A CRIPPLED LEFT HAND!

    • Charlie Taylor

      They aren’t m-lok. According to Kevin’s Facebook postings this is still the original handguard.

      • Vhyrus

        Holy crap…he invented m-Lok TOO?!

        • JSmath

          And the guy who owns K&M arms that makes the M17S now also has been making his own custom vent/mounts for them for a long while now too.

  • Gus Butts

    From Q? “What were you expecting, an exploding pen?”

  • thedonn007

    Does Kevin no longer work for Sig Sauer?

    • Chad Brown

      Since January.

  • Gus Butts

    Looking at the Honey Badger now it’s actually pretty easy to just build one yourself.

    • Joe

      This. Unless there’s internal voodoo I’m unaware of, parts are readily available for a short suppressed .300 with a CQB/PDW stock.

  • GD Ajax

    Just let this thing die. The Sig MCX is pretty much better in every way and function.

    • Rob

      500 rounds and 3 charging handles later I sold the MCX. I would hold judgement until there both are on the market in numbers. The MCX IMO is at 95%. Sig got the hard part done but stopped just short of the finish.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        I’ve shot both the MCX and MPX and they both are WAY cooler on the internet than in the hand. Maybe they’ll sort them out. But I’m definitely not lining up to buy either yet.

        • Vhyrus

          I thought the mpx was the coolest thing ever too, until I shot one suppressed and got hit in the face with crap on every shot.

        • Wow!

          The problem with the MCX and MPX is that they really don’t do anything an AR 15 with an assortment of uppers and a PDW stock doesn’t already do. I have kept my Colt 9mm and it has served well beyond any other SMG I have seen.

      • mig1nc

        In Kevin’s interview in Recoil Magazine he said he felt like Sig, and I quote “I think SIG cut corners”. I wish I could ask him what exactly he meant by that.

  • Chad Brown

    I don’t see anything to justify the undoubtedly high price point that will follow.

    Also: GI mag? WTF, Brittingham?

    • Jim Jones

      Brittingham confirmed the price will be $2k, inclusive of the silencer. Not bad.

      • Chad Brown

        Not bad, but not particularly good, either.

        It looks like he completely threw out Taper-Lok, as well as the ability to change calibers. A .300 BLK rifle that may (or may not) accept aftermarket trigger kits and bolt carrier groups, and is a pain to clean…and requires 2 ATF tax stamps? Not my idea of a $2,000 gun, as much as I like the guy.

        • mig1nc

          So, actually a $2400 gun 🙂

          I was sad when TGC slapped me in the face about reality and the HPA.

    • Sam

      What’s wrong with GI mags? Cheap, light, awesome. They are also some of the best for .300blk, as far as I understand. Pmags have that internal ridge for support and swell when loaded with .300blk.

  • Am I missing something here or could anyone with a credit card and an NICS go-ahead not just assemble functionally the same carbine from off the shelf parts? It was neat and innovative in 2011, but in [Current Year] it doesn’t seem to amount to much more than an interesting rollmark; I saw a dozen different SBRs just like it at a gun show last weekend.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      But this one has new lines! And has built-up material around the bolt release!

      But really, yeah. This idea was new and shiny in 2011, but in the 5-6 years since then the market has disseminated the things that made the Honey Badger noteworthy to the point that anyone can create the same concept at home.

    • Jim Jones

      I built my own copycat Honey Badger because I never thought it would come to market. Looks like I’ll be in for another $2k.

    • Budogunner

      The original honey badger was needed to bring sex appeal and mainstream attention to the new cartridge. With 300 BLK now well established that particular design is no longer wildly unique or necessary.

      I will always say the Honey Badger was a vital piece of history, though. Traffic to AAC’s website jumped by tens of thousands of views when FPS Russia got to do a video with it.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    This gun is like Heidi Montag, everybody wanted it in 2011 until we realized she was just a bunch of components of other hot girls slapped together.

    • junyo

      [slow clap]

  • SP mclaughlin

    C a l l o f d u t y m e m e g u n

    • .45

      I remember it as being rather fun in Call of Duty Ghosts, but I was a bit disappointed with the game itself. The ads had me believing that you were going to be up against a superior foe, but instead you still get all the gadgets: Remote controlled dog, heartbeat sensor, airstrikes, etc, etc, while the bad guys have rifles and little else, as usual. I was expecting to be facing bad guys with all the gadgets while I was the one with little more than a rifle and a ‘Medica spirit. Oh well.

      (For that matter, I also misread the ads for Black Ops 2 as well. Thought it was all robots in the future and when they were hacked you would have to play as some grumpy old veteran complaining about his arthritis and cracking jokes about the modern generation being all weak and useless. Again, oh well.)

      • Richard

        You aren’t alone, I fell for the ads too.

        • .45

          I guess we should just go play Homefront while screaming Wolverines at random intervals.

      • Wow!

        I liked Ghosts. I think it brought COD back to it’s military themed roots. Some parts were pretty wild, but it was more COD4 than Black OPs 2. Also I liked how they predicted the Trump wall.

        • ozzallos .

          HA! Forgot about that. +1 for you, Sir.

        • .45

          Don’t get me wrong, I liked playing the game. I’m easily entertained and have a lot of fun with games everyone hates, but that doesn’t mean I can’t criticize them or talk about how I would make them better if I could wave a magic wand.

  • Don Ward

    I question the wisdom of hanging the marketing of your new product with a name based on a half-decade old meme…

    With that said, I would totally buy a gun with. Rick Roller lock system…

    • AD

      Heh, good one.

  • valorius

    It’s just another AR from what i see.

  • Jim Jones

    Actually, the photos came straight from Kevin Brittingham’s Instagram account. On there, he also confirmed to me that it would be a 2-stamp SBR, and that it would be around $2k.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      That answers my question if it’s still a 3-stamp gun or not.

      I’m guessing with a 6″ barrel, you’d be best off to buy X or Y brand ammo, or more likely roll your own.

    • Harry’s Holsters

      That’s a really good value!

  • JumpIf NotZero

    I’d like to know if it’s still a 3-stamp gun.

    • CommonSense23

      What is a 3 stamp gun?

      • Amanofdragons

        I’m assuming it’s a typo. Most guns like that are 2 stamp. One for the sbr and another for the can. One stamp if it’s internally suppressed with over a 16in barrel.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          No. It’s not a typo. I wrote 3 stamp gun and meant three-stamp-gun.

          In the original, one stamp for SBR, one stamp for the obvious can, and a third stamp for the device they had that wasn’t part of the can but was a backpressure device (or something like that) to make the 6″ barrel gun work correctly. It was that device that ATF had considered was a “silencer”.

          Logically, I couldn’t have seen that photo and still written two stamp gun. That barrel isn’t 16″ even with the can perm attached.

          • .45

            In the future it will be a six stamp gun. One stamp for being a gun, one stamp for being a functioning gun, one stamp for being an evil assault weapon, one stamp for the suppressor, one stamp for the short barrel, and one stamp for shooting a scary military round.

          • Wow!

            The more ridiculous the BATFE becomes, the more reason to just stop following their illegal restrictions. If we are going to be labeled criminals anyways, we mind as well stay off the radar all together.

          • HSR47

            Given the BATFE’s willingness to accept “modular” mufflers, I see no reason why such a hypothetical “backpressure device” wouldn’t be a component of the muffler…

          • BrotherLazarus

            Because the ATF can’t find their way to a logical conclusion with a GPS device and a Marine Force Recon team assisting.

            The Sig arm brace? It’s a stock! It’s not a stock! It’s a stock, but only if you use it in these ways which you might do reflexively!

            Or, more lunacy… over-textured buffer tubes on AR pistols can be considered a stock device at the whim of the agent, based on whether or not the rear looks sufficiently padded to be used AS a stock… not that any of us would dream to build an SBR sans stock with an oversized, textured buffer tube and use it as a functional SBR, ever. Nope. Nothing to see here, move along.

          • HSR47

            Like I said: Assuming that JINZ is giving an accurate picture of the situation, I see absolutely no reason why the two “devices” in question couldn’t be functionally incorporated into a single “device.”

            As the multitude of “modular” mufflers has shown, the BATFE appears to have no problem with with mufflers that do not have a single contiguous outer tube, and which can be used without all components installed at a given time.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        ATF NFA nonsense, see my other post.

  • iksnilol

    There are factory 6 or so inch barrels. Though they cost like 250-300 bucks.

    And there’s plenty of slick rails and PDW type stocks.

    • lol

      they are all limited by the bolt release. someone needs to make an upper and stock combo like the badger, but you lose forward assist.

      • Steve Truffer

        m231 stock.

      • mig1nc

        The Battle Arms Development Monolithic PDW Lower Receiver is basically 95% there.

  • i1527109

    Oh yay. More unneccesary tacticool vaporware BS from this charlatan rip-off artist who interestingly enough can’t seem to hold down a job anywhere.

  • Bob

    who is she? an actress or what?

  • Sianmink

    I built something similar, though I used a LWRC UCIW stock and x-products sidecharging upper. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0d396f527f2596243b6e21ba97f9e31f9e2fadec6ef838b6937a8586d167f59.jpg

  • ozzallos .

    Yay! Proprietary!
    MEH.

  • DC

    What stock is that?