POTD: Running And Gunning For 50 Years

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Albrecht Moser is a former Swiss Soldier. He is a long distance runner and has competed in the Waffenlauf. The Waffenlauf is a 43K long race. So about the same as a marathon. Competitors are current or former military. The race must be ran wearing full uniform, marching boots, ruck that weighs no less than 13.6-pounds and includes either a standard Swiss Army Stgw 90 (SIG 550), Stgw 57 (SIG SG 510) or old school WWII-era K.31 bolt action rifle. Female soldiers are not required to carry a rifle but their packs must weigh 11 lbs.

Albrecht Moser has raced Waffenlauf since the 70s. He has 56 wins for long distance running. Eight of them are national championships. You can see he loves to run with his K31 Swiss.



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  • Lou

    Awesome!

    How old is he?

    • Ken

      He’s 71. The more “recent” picture above was in 2009, 7 years ago.

  • Madcap_Magician

    This seems like as good a place as any to put this.

    Why the hell is it so damn hard to find a good running holster.

    Go on the gun boards and look at some of the running holster reviews. People did practical tests like walking down their country driveway, or mowing the lawn, or walking three miles around the neighborhood. Wearing cargo shorts and a Hawaiian shirt.

    Now go to the running boards and look at some of the running holster reviews. Only you can’t, because any time someone has the temerity to ask about holsters, they’re deluged with nanny-state ninnies shrieking inanities about how they no longer feel safe running now that they know that someone in America wants to carry a gun when he or she runs.

    TFB, if I write a head-to-head article on ‘running’ holsters and how they hold up on ACTUAL running… say, half marathons, would you publish it?

    • J. Tiesto

      I struggled with this for a while and found that a Bodyguard 380 was best strapped to my weak-side arm in a zippered case originally designed for a smart phone. If you check out Ebay you can find them for about $5. I do 10k and 5k runs daily and it stays put. The trick is to orient it so that it’s facing forward and not to the side. That way it doesn’t act like a pendulum. For something bigger…well…good luck.

      • Madcap_Magician

        Yeah, I thought it might come down to that. I really hate to do it though. I’d like to do an Airweight revolver. Right now I’m looking at the Elite Survival Systems marathon gunpack. I’m at the run distance where carrying water and electrolyte chews or gels is starting to become Highly Recommended, so I was going to end up having to get a belt anyway.

        Ordinarily I’d just carry a small knife, but during the summer I do city trail runs, often at night to beat some of the heat. I’ve run into some sketchy people doing sketchy things.

        • John

          I see people speedwalking, jogging and running with fanny packs all the time. Maybe find the most durable one you can get and wear that around.

          If you look at the Swiss runner, he’s got his rifle positioned in such a way that it looks like it doesn’t encumber him. Probably why he’s not running with a modern rifle; the shape and different weight might throw him off.

          • Madcap_Magician

            I’m not enough of a badass to concealed-carry a K31, though.

          • Tassiebush

            You’d have a very badass if you concealed one of those!

          • iksnilol

            anything is possible with a hacksaw, comrade 😉

          • Madcap_Magician

            NYET. Rifle is fine. Fix end user.

        • Brad

          Hill People Gear.

      • Marcus D.

        Ask (former) Governor Perry. He shot a coyote with his .380 while out running…

    • RocketScientist

      I don’t know what TFB will say on it, but I for one would CERTAINLY be interested in seeing such a review. It’s an issue I’ve been trying to find a great solution for, for YEARS. I post to my running forums? Get shouted down for being a paranoid nut who endangers the wrold because I want to run with a gun. I post to my gun forums? I get told to move, if my neighborhood is so dangerous that I cant run in it without packing heat, or (my personal favorite) get recommendations like you mention: “What I use is a commander-size 1911 in shoulder holster. It works great for concealment under my safari jacket when I run between stages at my local range”.

      I just want a lightweight gun with a suitably concealable holster that won’t be bouncing around and chafing/bruising me on a run. Based on my experiences looking into this a year or so back., I thought I was literally the only one in the world.

      • Madcap_Magician

        I’ve only met one other guy who does what I would consider to be ‘running’ and has thought about carrying while he does so. In the interest of shaving ounces, I was willing to go to a S&W 351C in .22 magnum (11 oz).

        Might take me a year or so to do this, though, since we’re coming up on winter, and I’m in Minnesota, so I’ll be taking my runs to the treadmill at the gym.

        If TFB will publish this, I will run a timed half marathon while armed, with results, photos and possibly video of the race and training sessions.

        • RocketScientist

          Part of my problem is I live in Florida… so for 90% of the year I’m wearing as little as possible, so anything that relies on cover clothing for the “concealment” part is tricky. And many of the other options (neoprene belly-band type holsters) that cover a LOT of skin with thick/heavy material would probably put me into heat exhaustion after mile 3 or 4.

          • Madcap_Magician

            I agree. I run in just Army PT shorts until it goes below 50, primarily to avoid the bleeding nipple problem, but also for the heat. But the belly-band holsters collect sweat, few of them are really sweat-resistant, much less sweatproof, and they constrict breathing and cause heat retention.

            Interestingly in Minnesota during the spring and fall, hypothermia is a potential issue when running, because you don’t notice how cold you actually are when you’re working up a sweat.

    • Nicholas C

      Defintiely. Send it to me and I’ll have our editor loook it over. We do guest posts every now and then.

      • Madcap_Magician

        It will take a while to put together. I’ll need to acquire a couple samples of these holsters, and we are about to enter the cold-weather period of the year where it’s difficult to run trails. I’ll e-mail you a rough proposal of what I’d be looking at doing. Probably be next summer by the time it could be done.

        • Just Sayin’

          You might want to try pistolwear, I saw them at the ShotShow last year but felt it would be too sweaty and make me look fat 🙂

          • Madcap_Magician

            That’s the other holster that’s top on my list for testing.

          • Jason Wooden

            Oh, and the CEO of The Silencer Co is an ultra runner, would be interesting to know what he carries and how.

    • Tassiebush

      I think your idea is particularly interesting and especially worthy of an article. It reminds me of the topic of what is the fastest way to run with a longarm?

    • Just Sayin’

      I’ve tried a few holsters for running and settled on the Blackhawk Serpa for my Shield. It grips my belt tightly and the pistol too, so it doesn’t bounce around. Very quick to draw as well. I average about 30-40 miles/week on trails throughout the year. I compete in ultras (including 100 milers). I’ve gotten so I hardly notice the pistol on my hip, just part of my running gear.

      • Madcap_Magician

        What are you wearing to run that you wear a belt and a Serpa?

        • Just Sayin’

          Shorts or tights (depending on the temp) with a nylon web belt around the waist, tight (no belt loops). The Serpa has an adjustable width for the belt, so it grips the belt and doesn’t slide around (like my nylon holsters do). Then a running shirt (short sleeve, long sleeve or both) over the weapon when around other trail users to provide a bit of concealment. Usually I don’t see anyone else on my runs though so I put the hem of the shirt between the weapon and me waist for a quicker draw, open carry.

          • Madcap_Magician

            I’m really not seeing how this would possibly work using a nylon web belt. The off-side weight seems like it would bounce like crazy.

          • Just Sayin’

            Works great for me, on the downhill it bounces a bit but not annoyingly so.

        • Jason Wooden

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1245e34eb1308ae73d21f976782bbea1c4542fb856bfd9546944f619b4cf9255.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ada09df2d53cb1b7ea470fc0ee9813180d4209e906f8a22ae2833b705ff057cf.jpg

          @madcap_magician:disqus Here are a couple of pics of my set-up. Put over 1300 miles down this year so far (according to Strava) with this kit. Hardly know I’m wearing it. Also, I found the Shield is amazingly light for a 9-round 9mm that actually feels and points good in my hand. I guess it’s all user-preference though…

    • billyoblivion

      Have you looked at the Hill People Gear rig?

  • iksnilol

    “And I just… I just ran”

    • Uniform223

      Forrest Gump referrence?

      • jay

        No, Flock of Seagulls, “I ran”. Now I can’t help seeing iksnilol with bird shaped hair….

        • iksnilol

          “I ran so far away”

          [80’s music intensifies]

          … Plenty of references tho :p

    • pithy

      I would go for a Diablo 2 reference: “What did I do? What could I do?….I ran.”

    • Dougscamo

      And one day….I just stopped….

  • Alexander Unterberg

    Badass grandpa!

    • Smedley54

      My first thought was “You might be a true badass if…”

  • TVOrZ6dw

    Is the guy sponsored in the B/W picture?
    Sure would be nice if US culture would value those who demonstrate their willingness and ability to defend themselves, their neighbors, and their country from harm as Switzerland does.
    When I lived in San Francisco I had to hid my rifle cases inside rolled up blankets when I loaded the car to go to the range just so my neighbors wouldn’t go into full panic mode and call the SWAT team in on me.

    • iksnilol

      Switzerland helping neighbours?

      Oh yeah, the wannabe nazis with the racist laws which stayed neutral for WW2 are interested in helping people. *smh

      • David Harmon

        They are interesting in helping people, themselves. That’s what helping your neighbors means, your neighbors within your own country.

        • iksnilol

          They also rigged their entire country to blow, so I’d be leery around ’em.

      • TVOrZ6dw

        Yes, granted Switzerland played both sides of the coin during WW2. As a US citizen, I don’t call out other nations for racist laws they had back in the day- Something about the pot calling the kettle comes to mind.
        When I said help neighbors I really meant the folks down the road from where this guy lives.

        • Mike

          Not trying to be too political here as that not is what this site is about but….
          Think we have gone above and beyond to make up for that, this is what the BLM idiots, race baiters and libs will never let go of. Time to let it go and move on.

          • TVOrZ6dw

            Yes, thanks. I 100% agree on both topics.

          • Billy Jack

            Not trying to be too political here as that not is what this site is about but….

            Current counter-productive morons in the streets notwithstanding, I don’t know who your we is accounting for, but above and beyond making up for the past is not even close especially considering the racism hasn’t stopped. That doesn’t mean the fraudulent protesting and racial attacks against innocent Whites in our nation now are acceptable at all or even that they are justifiable on any level, it’s just to say you can’t erase hundreds of years of enslaving millions of people and another hundred and fifty years of terrorism and disenfranchisement with a “get over it why don’t you.” A disingenuous resolution results in uneducated disenfranchised people of color engaging in hypocritical behavior and a brand new clusterf*&%. If the past and current crimes against innocent persons were addressed honestly these young people wouldn’t be manipulated so easily by those trying to take advantage of the situation. I agree that we need to put this stuff behind us and get on with living. Maybe with new leadership coming in that can happen. Looking forward to people of all colors running a marathon with a M1 & a rucksack on their back.

            And for the record I’m not an uneducated BLM race baiting Lib either. I just read a book that taught me about a Golden Rule and I try to not forget that if possible. A man with no sense of justice or compassion is evil.

        • iksnilol

          Aaah, you dont understand. Their currenr gun laws are racist in the way that you by default cant have guns if you’re from specific countries.

      • Somebody’s application for Swiss citizenship was denied…

        • iksnilol

          Didn’t even send one. Everything closes super early and I don’t have firearms rights there due to not being white enough.

        • Peter Balzer

          Or he’s just being an idiot…

      • Tassiebush

        I took his comment to mean neighbours in the sense of countrymen, fellow citizens that sort of sense. I wouldn’t call them racist. They just aren’t that open to the outside world.

        • iksnilol

          I dunno, that was at least my impression from reading their gun laws.

          That and they were super rude when I travelled there (asked politely to pay for my meal, waited an hour, then got yelled at by the pompous waiter). Only thing worthwhile in CH was CERN.

          • Tassiebush

            My impression is it’s a country where they really do things their way and don’t necessarily do much to teach outsiders their etiquette whilst probably assuming it’s self evident but that’s the nature of cultural misunderstandings. But it’s their way so fair enough I suppose. I haven’t been there but it’s just what people I know who come from there or have a connection tell me. Speaking of misunderstandings the other day I was in a queue sandwiched between foreigners and their sense of personal space was pretty different to mine. I felt like the guy behind me was trying for some backdoor action or something. He was friendly and seemed nice and all but clearly was just used to a very different concept of space. We tend to allow a fair bit more space. If we kept so little distance we’d be driving each wild with pheromones which just wouldn’t be the done thing.

          • iksnilol

            Had to upvote when you mentioned backdoor action. Luckily few heard me on the train station :p

            I just thought they came across as rude (one guy got pissed that I asked him in English for directions).

            But yeah, space is one I don’t think much about. I know Norwegians are not fans of physical contact casually. Finns are even worse, Danes are more casual around it.

          • Tassiebush

            Oh yeah I’ve certainly heard that about language. Same with the French in some cases.

          • iksnilol

            THAT WAS IT!

            The guy that got pissed, he was a French speaking Swiss guy. He got super angry/offended that I attempted to communicate with him in English (then German when that failed).

          • Tassiebush

            Oh yeah especially with French I could imagine that outcome. I’ve heard of a few instances of that sort of thing. Must be annoying to them that they don’t speak the lingua franca anymore. Yes I know how ironic that is.

          • iksnilol

            xD Funny thing is, he understood my English and German perfectly fine. He was just angry I couldn’t French. Sorry for not being a colonized untermensh, amirite ?

            But yeah, irony, in spades 🙂

          • Tassiebush

            I am delighted to have learned that word this morning! I can really use that!

          • iksnilol

            Oooh yeah, be careful with that one. It has like all the nazi associations.

          • Tassiebush

            I was thinking uses like happy little songs. Untermensch untermensch, does whatever an untermensch does!
            Or accusing others of treating me like one. “Honey I’m not just your gimp untermensch to be used as you see fit.”

    • David Harmon

      See the reply to you from the other guy, that’s why, because you have a group of people whom are unwilling to let anyone live the way they choose without defamation. They are everywhere.

    • Ranger Rick

      Ovomaltine (Ovaltine) drink is the sponsor of the race.

      • TVOrZ6dw

        Mmm, nothing helps you in those last few klicks that a tall glass of malted milk! 🙂
        Thanks for sorting that out.

        • Shankbone

          Low-fat chocolate milk is a proven recovery drink. During comp? I can think of many other beverages that I would rather consume.

    • Ryfyle

      Times are changing. What has you chained in San Fran? Even in the Las Vegas area most of the ritzier neighbor hoods tend to be stacked with arms.

      • TVOrZ6dw

        I moved from SF in 2009 and after a few gun and ccw friendly years in Phoenix now find myself back in the frying pan- Chicago of all places.

        • Ryfyle

          places best forgotten by time.

        • S. Plankenberg

          Why in the hell are you in Chicago?

        • Billy Jack

          How could anything go wrong? It’s not like there’s a war in the streets and you have no access to your 2nd Amendment rights. At least there are tons of restaurants, theaters and other things to pass the time in between dodging bullets.

    • Joseph Goins

      You couldn’t get Americans off the couch to do this.

  • Dougscamo

    Am I the only one thinking that this will be what Alex C will look like in 50 years?…..

    • PK

      Shirt’s nowhere near tight enough.

      • SP mclaughlin

        That’s James Reeves, not Alex
        Alex is el muerto with TBF TV.
        Apparently he cares for cars now.

        • iksnilol

          Gotta blow the cocaine budget somehow.

  • deserada

    I love you Fruity Albrecht!

  • Ryfyle

    Being charged by what looks like ancient fury unblemished by time.

  • Kivaari

    Good for him.

  • The_Champ

    That man running with a 70 year old rifle in tow is far more bad ass than any tactic-cool ninja this side of the internet.

    • Joseph Goins

      And about 200# less.

    • iksnilol

      Wanna bet that’s the first rifle he was issued and he’s kept it all his life?

  • .45

    That’s cool. I’d like to do that with my Lee Enfield.

    ‘Course, I’d need to get in shape for the actual running, but that would be fun, even without any biathlon shooting at any point.

    • The_Champ

      Personally, I’m not sure ‘fun’ is a word I’d use to describe 43 kms of running with extra weight 🙂

      • .45

        OK, to be honest, I would be doing less running, and more spurts of jogging and walking, just to deal with the monotony of the hike, and under no circumstances would I be in danger of finishing quickly. I’ve never been a hardcore runner, but I can walk all day.

  • USMC03Vet

    “Female soldiers are not required to carry a rifle”

    Muh feminism.

    • iksnilol

      It’s a phallic symbol of oppression?

  • crackedlenses

    This. This right here is a true marathon runner.

  • Dougscamo

    Guess we need to start looking them in the eyes….would have saved me money…..nah….

  • Billy Jack

    Seems pretty nice to let foreigners aka citizens of another nation engage in any of that in your country. I’m not sure when it became normal to go to foreign lands and demand the rights of citizens in that nation. I can understand some rights you’d desire as a tourist or visiting worker or businessman or businesswoman but beyond that seems kind of overbearing, dangerous and stupid. Did someone alter the timeline in this part of the multiverse or something?

  • Just say’n

    Tanks for sharing! I thought I was a fluent Deutchsprecher but I can understand maybe every 5th word he says. Dang Switzerdeutsch anyway. The reporter I understand just fine though.

  • iksnilol

    I don’t drive South Korean cars nor do I see them on Norwegian roads.

    Also, any proof of the whole “let us in or die” since I hear a lot of crap like that without any sources. Now I don’t mind hating on folks from the middle east (Lord knows I’ve got reasons a’plenty) but I still like being logical in my disdain, I don’t do the whole “muh feelings” thing that seems to be awfully popular on both sides.