New Russian pistol aimed at Practical Shooting – The “Soratnik”

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IPSC (International Practical Shooting Confederation) in Russia is a huge success, and is showing tremendous growth with some 30 000 members. I can’t think of any region which could be larger, and there are now regular sponsored events.

The Russian World and European Champion Maria Gushchina uses a CZ Shadow 2, and CZ is a very popular brand in Russia. The CZ-75 is probably one of the most used handguns.

Maria is a great competitor, I met her at IWA and EHC2016 (European Handgun Championships) and she’s such a nice person and so fast and smooth during shooting. She finished 4:th overall i Production.

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Due to international sanctions it is now very difficult, if not impossible, to import firearms from Europe to Russia. This includes the CZ.

This has started a need for Russian manufacturers to develop and produce their own handguns.

For instance Kalashnikov are releasing some upgrades.

At the Moscow International Exhibition  “ARMS & Hunting 2016” (29 September – 2 October) more signs of this surfaced.

A Moscow-based private company called RWTS Ltd. (Russian Weapon Technologies & Systems) has been created.

Their focus is to produce a CZ-75 clone with full compatibility with CZ accessories and magazines. The target market is practical sport shooting.

The new pistol is named “Soratnik” which is Russian for an “ally” or a “comrade-in-arms“.

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The material is steel and the caliber is unsurprisingly 9×19 mm.

Soratnik is CNC machined, and by the looks from the pictures of the prototype the finish is a bit crude in places.

The trigger is DA/SA

It will be interesting to see how long time it takes for this handgun to get approval from IPSC into the Production list, together with the real CZs, Tanfoglios and Glocks. I think they need to produce at least 500 units to be called “Production”. The list is updated in April, every year.

The current list for IPSC Production can be found here.

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Note the serial number: 0001.

The magwell has some flare, and there is a Picatinny rail in the front. The sight seems to feature a fiber optic and looks adjustable.

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The magazine holds 18 rounds and is CZ compatible.

All pictures by Maxim Popenker.

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Production is planned for 2017.

The price is said to be 50 000 Russian Rubles, which equates to just a little less than 800 USD.

 

By the looks of it RWTS have more models. This looks like a copy of a Feiwerkbau AW 93 (22 LR).

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Eric B

Ex-Arctic Ranger. Competitive practical shooter and hunter with an European focus. Always ready to increase my collection of modern semi-automatic firearms, optics and sound suppressors.


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  • PK

    I’m glad something like this is finally happening! Everyone who is able should be able to enjoy the CZ-75 at some point, and if it has to be a clone due to sanctions then so be it. As you know, there’s a thriving shooting community in Russia, and they will greatly enjoy this.

  • Martin Grønsdal

    How can you justify handing out guns to a nation that is never sober?

    • PK

      Kind of a jerky thing to say, isn’t it?

      • Martin Grønsdal

        Or concerned.

        • DIR911911 .

          now you have concern for drunk russians? how mr rogers of you

          • mansnne@kfjgjg.com

            Alcohol is cheaper than religion.

    • which nation do you mean?
      Finns? Germans? Czechs? or maybe Americans?
      Huh? 😉

      • Anomanom

        Americans are sometimes sober. We have to sleep occasionally after all.

        • Sunshine_Shooter

          Unfortunately.

      • Martin Grønsdal

        Well, according to WHO, former Soviet states, including Russia, are by far leading in alcohol consumption and negative health consequences due to alcohol.

        If you then compare crime levels in Russia, with the level of alcohol intake, it becomes rather obvious that guns and these people make a rather sad composition?

        The irony is that while Putin may benefit from a disarmed civilian Russia, so will the average Sergey and Igor.

        • well, there’s not a drastic difference in alcohol consumption between, say, Russia and Finland, which is, by far, one of the most heavily armed (per civilian capita) countries in Europe. And if you ever was anywhere near drunken Finns, you could be really afraid of them being anywhere near guns.. whic will be wrong impression whatsoever.
          As for crime rates, we may, for example, try to compare murder rates in Moscow and Washington DC. Could be quite educational in many respects.
          And, finally, your assumption that “Putin may benefit from a disarmed civilian Russia, so will the average Sergey and Igor” is wrong on both ends.
          IPSC is on all-time rise here, and the Soratnik pistol is being developed with direct governmental support from Ministry of Sport. And while handgun ownership and carry is still prohibited in Russia, a lot of new long guns (mostly of tactical persuasion, btw) recently became available for Russian shooters, and for more or less affortable money.

          • Martin Grønsdal

            Finland is 17th on the list of countries by alcohol consumption, Russia is 4th, after Belarus, Moldova and Lithuania.

            More important; Finland’s alcohol consumption is 46 % beer, and only 24 % spirits, while in Russia,it is 37 % beer and 51 % spirits.

            Total consumption is 12,3 L for Finland, and 15,3 L for Russia. Reference – WHO.

            Thats the alcohol.

            Then, compare crime stats for Finland and Russia. There is no comparison. Russia is 52nd on the list of countries by murder rate, with 9,5 murders pr. 100K inhabitants. Finland is 164th, with 1,6 killed pr 100K. (The US is 108th with 3,9/100K). Reference UNODC.

            So I guess that I would have more trust with the Finns with guns, than their neighbours.

          • Collin Iams

            Comparing country to country with homicide statistics is misleading. Russia has a population of nearly 150 million. Finland has nearly 6 million. Comparing murder per 100,000 people doesn’t give you a full view of what’s really going on. The same arguments were used to suggest the US have stricter firearms laws based on the murder rates of Australia and England, but when taking into account the actual population, the data looks different.

            One must also take into account how murders are defined in a given country. For example, does Russia include the victims of sectarian violence in the Caucasus region in general murder statistics, or is that in a separate category. Also organized crime could account for a substantial number of homicides in the Russian Federation, just as gang violence accounts for a substantial number here in the US.

            Suffice it to say, there are far too many variables in the Russian Federation to simply look at a simple statistic and derive much more than a raw number from it.

          • Martin Grønsdal

            How is it misleading? That is the whole point of stats, to run them down to numbers that exist in all test areas. Few countries have less than 100K.

            The only valid argument is that of caucasus. I would have to look up if that inflates the numbers.

          • Collin Iams

            Let’s use Navy tonnage as an example. So say country A displaces 300,000 tons and country B 1,000,000 tons. Nowhere in that raw data of tonnage is the particulars of said tonnage evident. How many are submarines, how many are aircraft carriers, how many are cruisers, etc. So while smaller in tons, country A might be more combat efficient than country B.

            The waters are further muddied by how and what is defined as a combat vessel. The Littoral Combat Ship concept of which the US Navy seems so enamored these days does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling when one considers Russia displaces a good deal of tonnage with highly advanced submarines. Thus, statistics don’t give the full picture, and are misleading if one does not bear in mind the differences, however slight or great they may be, between nations compared.

          • Martin Grønsdal

            Your argument could have some sense if one murder was different from the other, as ships are.

            Finland has few murders, Russia many. Then one could look at other crime statistics. I doubt any data for Finland would be worse than in Russia.

          • Anonymoose

            Gee, thanks, Russian mob! Also thanks for exchanging my vodka with windshield wiper fluid!

          • Funny that out of the three countries that you said have higher alcohol consumption than Russia, two (Moldova and Lithuania) have somewhat softer gun laws than Russia, as they allow handgun ownership while Russia don’t
            And, while we on that, higher crime levels ARE exactly THE reason why law abiding citizens need MORE guns. It is called self-protection. I know that this concept became somewhat alien to many of our “civilized EU neighbors”, but we, Russians, still believe in that

            And, honestly, we, in general, totally don’t care if any Soviet European Union subject trusts us or not.

          • Martin Grønsdal

            You call the European Union a soviet union? That’s funny in two ways- Norway isn’t part of it. And your wonderful country has the life expectancy for males at the same level as Botswana; 60 years. Maybe time to look too the west after all?

          • i do not claim copyright for “The Soviet European Union” – I’ve heard this exact thought from a bunch of my friends in Germany, Belgium, Poland, Slovakia and Switzerland.
            Current low life expectancy is mostly result of the post-Soviet bad years with bad food, high stresses and general mayhem of 1990s and early 2000s.
            As for “Looking to the west” – what do you offer exactly? Welcome millions of refugees to improve gene pool and add fresh blood to aging local population which is mostly unwilling to bear and grow kids? Or try to get more gun bans, like European Commission does over recent years?

          • Martin Grønsdal

            Well, the life expectancy for females in Russia is actually not that bad, it is above African levels. So maybe it is the alcohol afterall?

            When speaking of alliances and unions. Isn’t the slightly heavy EU still better than your friends in Iran, Venezuela and Syria?

          • More like everyday stress – our society is a bit “archaic” in the fact that men carry most of the financial burden to support the family
            as for “friendships”, you should talk about that with our US pals and their friendly Saudi royals and Syrian “moderates”.

    • DIR911911 .

      how can you justify thinking they are “handing out” guns?

      • Martin Grønsdal

        figure of speech for allowing them to obtain guns.

  • Marc

    Everyone loves CZs.

    • guest

      HighPower derivative, CZ added their own choice of steroids to it, does not make it an original gun.

      • guest

        Are you the same one who trolls on 4chan’s weapons boards and says that the CZ75 is a Browning Hi-Power copy every time either is mentioned?

        Show me the parts in common shared by the two designs, please. I own both, and can tell you that they have very little in common other than steel frames and double-column magazines.

  • Bruce

    I should really add a CZ to the gun safe at some point. They feel so good in the hand.

  • Zed

    The “макет” word before serial number means “mock-up” or “full scale model”. But it seems to be working prototype anyway.

  • dP

    If you ignore all combloc license built Makarovs/Tokarevs, the CZ75 must be the most copied handgun design after the 1911.

    Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any other manufacturers to add to the list?
    Sphinx (Switzerland)
    JSL Spitfire (UK; went bust in 1993)
    Tanfoglio (Italy)
    IWI (Israel, although early versions were apparently built using parts made by Tanfo)
    Canik (Turkey; probably sold under all sorts of brands, as is usually the case with Turkish firearms)

    • Kyle

      SAR arms, Tristar but they may fall under Canik though.

      • raz-0

        springfield armory p9, armalite AR 24-15C

        probably sourced bits/manufacturing form elsewhere for both though.

        • Dave

          Both of those are Tanfoglios rebranded

          • MG

            IIRC, the AR was a re-branded Sarsilmaz.

    • Friend of Tibet

      Norinco

  • john huscio

    So a Russian sphinx

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      Sphinx pistols seem to be a product-improved, higher quality, more expensive CZ-75. This Soratnik pistol is more like a Russian Tangfolio.

      • iksnilol

        If by improved you mean infused with Nazi-gold, then yeah.

        Smh, kids nowadays.

        • ksndnfn

          It’s interesting though that the more spiritually profound the soldiery, the more important it becomes where and by who their weapons are made, and certainly what they are called. The Sphinx represented the mind taming the beast in the body.

          • iksnilol

            So now they’re hippies as well?

      • snmp

        CZ 75 Clone => Sphinx, Jericho, Tanfoglio and many stuff in Turquie

      • jdjjdn@kfjfjcom

        IIf they included a tassel of nordic blond hair with each pistol, they would really have a seller on their hands.

  • DIR911911 .

    “magazine holds 18 rounds and is CZ compatible” . . . yeah , kind of guessed that from the first pic

  • Spencerhut

    So they invented the CZ-75 SP-01? Yawn . . .

  • guest

    There’s one specific task that Browning’s guns are absolutely clearly the best of the best – as race guns (or as race guns in “standard” clothing).

    So I never diss them in that role, for everything else however they suck.

  • toms

    So how many pistols will they sell considering it is illegal for a Russian to own a pistol that shoots real bullets? The only people allowed to own real handguns in Russia are police and military or those who serve in some government capacity. I can’t imagine they will sell many of these.

    • Dave

      Clearly you’ve no idea how private firearms ownership works in russia because they can and do own many varieties of firearms very legally, just after jumping through some hoops for licences and permits.

      • Dave

        Also they have the biggest IPSC region by membership numbers, just over 36,000 members of IPSC Russia, that is over 36,000 people who are licenced/permitted to use privately owned firearms for competition…

        • Toms

          Nothing you said there contradicts that you MAY NOT own/possess a real pistol in Russia unless you have a .gov email. Those guns are stored at ranges for the “owner”. That is not owning anything. just read what I said above and let it sink in. Don’t believe me? Move there and try to buy a pistol then post pictures of yourself cleaning it at home. I will pay you $1000. Russia has one of the most restrictive gun laws in Europe. Period.

      • toms

        Really “Dave” I fricking lived there and know their firearm laws quite well.
        I also speak Russian and am familiar with this idiotic idea that Russian firearm laws are good. Maybe to someone in England they seem like paradise. An AK that costs about 800.00 in the USA will cost about 3,000 dollars in Russia.

        Sorry dude but I assure you – The only way a civilian is going to get a handgun in Russia is if he joins the police or security services period! Some military officers/diplomats get permits for outstanding service that allows them to keep one at home. Many police and security forces can get one post retirement. A competitor may buy a pistol but he MAY NOT bring it home with him, it would be stored in a safe at a licensed range for his use while there. The ultra rich can get a permit if they are so important that they must have security guards. A person may buy a rubber bullet firing replica with the appropriate licenses. Semi auto rifles are very controlled, limited to ten rounds, and available only after 5 years or something like that of owning a shotgun. Some ranges will turn a blind eye to higher capacity magazines but they are too restricted to mil/LE.

        Where do you get the idea that a person may buy and keep a pistol (capable of firing real bullets) at home?

  • John

    >”Due to international sanctions it is now very difficult, if not
    impossible, to import firearms from Europe to Russia. This includes the
    CZ.”

    Interesting. I wonder if we’ll start seeing more arms from China, the Middle East and Brazil start to show up in Russia. Norinco in particular. Maybe TFB should do an article on that.

  • Pilum57

    Off topic but wasn’t Ratnik the name for the Russian version of Landwarrior/Nett Warrior from several years back? Erik are you certain of that translation?

    • Джон Доу

      “Ratnik” and “Soratnik” are two different words with common ancestry.
      Ratnik is an old style word meaning a dude who participate in combat.
      Soratnik in a modern meaning is a dude who participate in some action on your side.
      That “soRatnik” engraving on the slide definitely utilizes wordplay. Not sure about it’s purpose, maybe they think it depicts the pistol more tacticool/SF operator style.
      BTW there are lot of videogames showing Evil Russian Guys armed with CZ-75s, so maybe they predicted the future.

  • loookan

    There is no ‘stealing’ in war, only winning and losing. More accurately taking things and getting things taken from you.
    And it does look like Swiss are turning hippie.