Another Full Auto Friday brings the Beretta P93R is an iconic machine pistol. It was designed in the 70s for use by Italian Counter Terrorism units. The “R” in M93R stands for Raffica, which translates to “burst”.

The M93R was developed from the 92 series of pistols. It has a two mode selector switch for semi auto and a three round burst. Some have modified it to shoot full auto. As you can see in the photo, it has a steel folding stock and a folding grip. The folding forward grip only opens 45 degrees rather than a full 90 degrees so it is not a vertical grip. The trigger guard has been enlarged so the shooter can fit both their support thumb and trigger finger inside. The FN P90 has a similar trigger guard.

I have had the pleasure to shoot a full auto M93R and the 1,100 round per minute rate of fire makes it a bit difficult to control. The grip helps a bit but I found the stock did not help much. The position is at the heel of the grip. This creates a pivot point for the gun to easily rotate up the shoulder.

Regardless of the non-ergonomic design, the M93R is a very good looking weapon and fun to shoot. I highly recommend firing a couple mags if you get the chance.



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  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I would imagine weapons like this are not expected to be accurate but to put as much lead downrange as possible as quickly as possible to keep the bad guys heads down while the driver gets El Presidente out of Dodge.

    • Anonymoose

      It’s only a 3-round burst and 9mm, so it’s not going to be as wild as something like a Glock 29 with a fun-switch.

      • JT303

        I hadn’t realised how much I wanted one of those until you mentioned it.

        • noob

          The 80s are like the 50s. Imagine if everything worked as advertised…

          Actually Blood Dragon and Fallout are games which tried.

          • iksnilol

            Cold War misfired in Fallout.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I have a little time behind a MAC-10 9mm F/A and I have no idea how anyone could hit with that without the barrel extension.

        • iksnilol

          That’s why it was a favorite amongst rappers. Kept feuds going.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I think that was the TEC-9.

          • iksnilol

            That one too, but St. Smalls prefered the Mac.

            Quoth the scripture:
            “In the Land Cruiser Jeep with the MAC-10 by the seats
            For the jackers, the jealous-a$$ crackers in the *blue suits*
            I’ll make you prove that it’s bulletproof”

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            LOL

          • derpmaster

            Don’t forget about the Calico with the black talons loaded in the clip

          • noob

            huh, good point he could have said “Tec-9 by the seats” and it still scans well. Same number of syllables.

          • Banned 7.62 Times

            Hei, Boogieman…

            Wanted to ask you… What sort of guns can you buy in Norway? Do you have nice ones, like McMillan, GA Precision, SCAR, etc.?

          • Tassiebush

            I’m having a reaction to the line “land cruiser jeep” the man should have refrained from rapping until he could get things right!

          • iksnilol

            Well, Jeep has become a generic term for SUVs and 4 wheel drive utility vehicles some places. I mean, I’d call a Land Cruiser a jeep, I would also call a Skoda Yeti a jeep.

            But to mess with you, I kinda want to get a Toyota Land Cruiser and then switch the Toyota badges with Jeep ones. But of course keep the land cruiser mark on the back.

          • Tassiebush

            Oh you have messed with me! In about 4 hours from now I’ll have trouble sleeping worrying that you might actually put that into practice! The only relationship between a Landcruiser and a jeep is that the former is frequently called upon to rescue the latter with one of these
            http://www.unsealed4x4.com.au/snatch-strap-comparison/ which that rapper probably thinks is a risque type of underwear!

          • iksnilol

            I don’t even drive 4wd, so that might rustle ya jimmes 😛

            Only thing I know is that people hate Skodas despite them being inexpensive, pretty comfy and being a way better build quality than VW. In spite of all that stupid people/mechanics (which are the same if they are so stupid) believe that Skodas are plastic crap which will break at the first sign of trouble (even tho they have better safety records and whatnot).

            So yeah, I can see why you’re annoyed.

          • Tassiebush

            I reckon they sound cool for their simplicity!

          • Tassiebush

            I’m actually a bit intolerant of rap music if I’m honest. It’s all about dodgy stuff like drugs and such. I’m more into wholesome stuff like the music of Lindemann.

          • iksnilol

            “wholesome” music such as heavy industrial metal?

            I can respect that. I don’t mind rap music, there’s good messages about believing in yourself and staying true to yourself in it. + the drug themes are okay for me since I work with the stuffs so if anything it makes it more relatable. I do listen to most things, though I do like the road trip feeling from some country music and a good deal of rock music (arctic monkeys while cruising down the highway into the sunset is mighty decent)… but I do listen mostly to eurobeat while driving… fuel mileage has taken a slight dive due to that but I enjoy it 😛

          • Tassiebush

            Hehe glad you picked up on that. There are some pretty awesome lyrics with that outfit but hardly surprising given the frontman. I’m not going to say whether they’re relatable though.
            “be my human Eiffel Tower,
            give me give me ……….er”
            Yeah driving music is a whole thing in of itself. Night drives give a feeling of freedom.
            Erm I thought you were on the legitimate side of that industry?!
            In my context rap was always this crappy thing urban mainlander kids from the homeboy subculture listened to. It’s an age and parochial thing 😉

          • iksnilol

            Yes, totally legitimate. That’s why I know that the difference between adderal and meth is the packaging (fun fact, meth doesn’t ruin your teeth if you actually clean your teeth after use of it).

            I can understand, that’s why I can’t stand country music for the most part (Hank Williams sr. is good tho, though I need a flannel shirt and a pickup for optimum effect, possibly a shotgun as well). All the “hold my beer now, y’all” kinda rednecks blast country and dubstep. So I have to go for eurobeat, synthwave and techno (fits well with night time driving which I do often). Though rock and metal does sneak in… depending on the mood of course. I keep multiple playlists, so when I bore of something I just switch for a while 🙂

          • Tassiebush

            Hehe that sounds about right for dental hygiene. Man you don’t own a flanny?! You are missing out on awesomely comfy shirts there!

          • iksnilol

            Oh I own one, but don’t wear it often. Did wear it when I had to drive some coworkers in my boss’ 4wd truck thingy. Even wore a denim jacket then for optimum redneckness.

          • Lonnie

            I’ll give you something else to keep you awake…the first “Land Rovers” built by British Leyland were built on Jeep chassis left in England after WWII. The Brits redesigned the body and stuck it right on American Jeeps! Toyota came along and copied L.R.s and called them “Cruisers!”

        • Core

          The MAC-10 in .45 is tough to handle full auto. I was able to keep it on target at very close range, but whow it was challenging. The UZI in 9mm full auto with folding stock is uber accurate and controllable. The Micro UZI was also a trip, empties magazine in like 1/3 of a second. After firing the smaller uncontrollable models I found the UZI to be super controllable. I’m sure there are ways to better handle them that I’m not aware of, but they seem like expensive range toys to me.

    • Gary Kirk

      A la MP7..??

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Exactly, but I bet the mp 7 can actually put rounds on target.

  • Rhesus Feces

    Wait… that fore grip isn’t considered vertical? Meaning sans the stock a semi auto one would be legal? …interdasting

    • Some Guy

      For that matter if somebody made a good quality repro stock that fit a standard 92 I wouldn’t hesitate to file sbr paperwork.

      • Basil Sever Moulds

        Aow?

        • Rhesus Feces

          Maybe… it sure would be nice to know who to ask.

    • David Harmon

      Very, makes me wonder if one with a light and angled grip on the front of a Glock would be worth the effort..

    • FulMetlJakit

      Apparently BATFE works on a “Don’t ask, we won’t ‘legislate’ ” modus operandi.
      #NeverShoulderNeverForget

  • Theo Braunohler

    This is the gun they used in Robocop.

    • Kevin Riley

      I knew I saw it in a movie, I just couldn’t remember which one. That must’ve been it.

      • CrankyFool

        Actually, it was more recognizable in Broken Arrow — John Travolta’s preferred sidearm in that movie.

        • Gary Kirk

          Just said that, didn’t see this, his was minus the stock though.. And may have been a bit different model???

          • David Harmon

            Says 93R on IMFDB

          • Thadius814

            Actually very, VERY few “true” Beretta 93R’s exist in the U.S… (20 pre-86 Dealer Samples, NONE are transferable.) In actuality, there were a few homegrown manufacturers converting the Taurus PT92 before 86, as well, and I believe another made 4 scratch built 93 frames to use with 93 parts kits, but coming across transferable, F/A 92, converted and registered pre-68 is as likely as the NFA being rescinded…

      • lurpy

        I was thinking La Femme Nikita, personally.

    • TJbrena

      Heavily dressed up, but yeah. Apparently they thought the Deagle looked too small in Robocop’s hands, so they made a gun based on the 93R.

      • John

        Honestly, the burst fire works. Machine pistol for a machine cop.

        I don’t think they fully understood the movie’s aesthetic until it was released. There’s a reason it’s a treasured classic.

    • Blake
  • Devil_Doc

    Hnngghh….

  • Martin M

    I lusted for one of these back in the day.

  • Joe

    Frame safety. Wins on that alone.

  • beekeeperp7

    F…ing Hughes amendment.

  • Barry

    First thing I notice is the frame mounted selector. I swear if beretta made the 92’s only with frame mounted safeties, they would probably sell 3x more pistols.

    • Jason Bernal

      They sold the tooling to Taurus who make the pt 92 with a frame mounted safety

      • iksnilol

        But Taurus is horrible, herpaderpaderp.

        • BearSlayer338

          Some might tell you that but no one has shot my PT92 and said my gun sucked. Imo the PT92 is just as good having owned multiple of both.

          However those 92 series pistols are large for caliber and capacity,i much prefer my CZ 75 pattern pistols.

      • Beretta still makes frame safety guns. Look at the Steel I, Millennium, Centennial, etc.

    • TC

      They do. It’s called a Taurus PT92.

  • whit3

    Brings back memories of the Able Team and Mack Bolan books I read as a teenager.

    • Nashvone

      No Phoenix Force? Got something against a five man team?

      • Mystick

        The Destroyer. Go Remo!

      • whit3

        Nope – I like Phoenix Force. I don’t remember any of them using a 93R though.

    • robocop33

      This where I first heard about the 93R. As they named the make and model I had to find out if there was such an animal and lo and behold, there was! Love to have one. Oh, my nickname is Robocop because I was put back together with metal screws, plates and wire. Unfortunately not enough to keep my job so had to retire. That is why I prefer small easily concealable firearms.

  • JustAHologram

    Perhaps Select Fire Friday is a more apt name since this is burst fire

    • Gary Kirk

      Tell that to the ATF

      • JustAHologram

        That’s no excuse for us to use improper naming

        • Gary Kirk

          No excuse for them to do so either..

        • Thadius814

          JustaHo… do you mean to say, “the utilization of inappropriate nomenclature is inexcusable under any circumstance?”

  • Gary Kirk

    Didn’t John Travolta have one of these sans stock in “Broken Arrow”?

    • Mike

      James Bond film “Never say never again”

      I had an airsoft one. Does that count?
      How about a 3 round burst on the 5.7

  • PaulG

    Full auto? The 93R was designed for burst fire only. The R in the name stands for ‘Raffica’ or flurry…the manufactured 93Rs had three selector switch markings. Red…safe…single white dot…semi-auto….three white dots…three round burst.

  • Spade

    I’d buy a semi auto as an SBR. Just sayin’, Beretta.

    • Richard

      Me too. The beretta 92 series fits my hand pretty well and the stock and angled grip thingy would help a little bit with my less than optimal handgun shooting.

  • Ricardo Deisernia

    Is that folding stock for real ? i hve never seen that in a real 93 …..finish of the gun doesn`t look real either to me , looks like an airsoft clon …..

  • Dickie

    Do they sell the parts to put on a seni auto berett?

  • santi

    I would pay handsomely for an sbr semi auto clone of this.

  • DirtWeazle

    I know it’s a toy (airsoft) but I just had to have one. 3 rnd burst, full auto and single.. Major mods, was a fun build. Would love to shoot a real one.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/328e69fdab0b44f434f5f1db7fd285e334fd4556aacfdeba4fc3550c9645e532.jpg

  • ft

    These are exactly the very type of weapons that get anti gun politicians on their high horse against guns in general, and I totally understand why. There s no reason why this weapon should ever find its way into the hands of anyone other than Special Ops units, if even then. I know there are lot of fun loving shooters out there that would love to fire this but it comes at a cost to all other gun owners when the politicians see this and say, “enough is enough” on guns. This is one of those weapons that I wouldn’t have or use if I could. Its not practical for my needs or anyone else except major league violent criminals and a few LE people, maybe.
    Spraying bullets all over the place out of a small, inaccurate gun like this is not being a responsible gun person.
    I had 3 M-16’s in Vietnam. Burned out the barrel on one. I don’t care if I ever shoot another full auto again. Its not quite as much fun when someone is shooting back at you as some think it is. Mostly those who have never been there.

    • survivor50

      Have to agree with FT on this one.
      Fired a LOT of automatic weapons, but unless it’s a BELT fed out of a HUEY door, I don’t have much use for them…just a personal choice …
      If I can’t hit it with “NORMAL”…ABNORMAL ain’t gonna help.

      • MichaelZWilliamson

        Sorry to hear you believe your personal desires should be law. Perhaps you should find a forum that caters to that taste.

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      It’s adorable that you think the enemy believes there’s a difference between “good” and “Bad” guns.

      And since almost none of these were ever sold in the civilian market, nor mentioned in HCI propaganda, you’re wrong.

      When you want to find the problem we have dealing with anti-gun politicians, take a look in the mirror.

  • John

    The predecessor to Robocop’s Auto9, it’s a beautiful thing.

  • I’ve been a fan of this firearm ever since I read the old Mack Bolan (The Executioner) books back in the 70’s and 80’s. This, along with .44 Automag were his standard handguns.

  • Bruce Fleming

    Since the Beretta 92 was not designed until after the 93R, I call BS or at least bad journalism on you saying it was based on the 92