New record shots: .408 CheyTac at 4540 yards

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Monsieur Benjamin Gineste (France) has successfully shot a target at 4150 meters, or 4540 yards.

He used a .408 CheyTac caliber rifle, with a scope mounted in an extreme 270 MOA inclination.

From what I can understand from the french press release he fired 12 rounds and had 3 hits.

The rifle seems to be a custom build, with lawton action and Lothar Walther barrel built by Bruno Put, the owner of Armeca (France). They have some really nice long range rifles on their homepage, make sure you check them out.

The size of the target is most likely a 60 cm black circle, with a width of 128 cm and a height of 190 cm.

Not long ago, TFB reported about Finnaccuracy‘s record shot(s) at 4380 yards with a SAKO TRG M-10, chambered in .375 CheyTac.

Finnaccuracy’s story is worth a read in case you missed it, check here.

Unfortunately there is not a lot of information or data about Mr. Gineste’s record shots, but here goes with what we know:

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The scope was secured in a Spuhr mount, but notice the extremely large spacer between the rifle and the mount.

The 419 gr bullet reaches 930 meters per second, or 3051 feet per second.

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Below: Note the insane angle of the scope. Looks silly, but apparently what’s needed at these extreme distances.

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Earlier Benjamin Gineste has shot 3695 meters with his .408 CheyTac, or .408 Cheyenne Tactical.

I for sure don’t mind record shots and attempts. However I would like some kind of standard to be set so we know more about the background, location, date and time, weather, wind, size and look of targets, how do you verify the actual distance, proof required etc.

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Above you can see the three hits ringed. I note that there is very little distance in the horizontal axis between the hits.

Gineste is a French soldier of the 1:st RCA and the date of the record was October 29th 2016.

Not trying to take away the honor of these remarkable hits, but can I fire 1000 random rounds at 5000 yards and claim I have the record if I find a hole in the paper? I guess not, so I just want some more reliable data for these records.

 



Eric B

Ex-Arctic Ranger. Competitive practical shooter and hunter with an European focus. Always ready to increase my collection of modern semi-automatic firearms, optics and sound suppressors.


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  • thedonn007

    Were the 3 shots that hit paper the last 3 of the 12 shots?

    • Drew Coleman

      I too would like to know when the hits vs misses occurred, for science.

  • Major Tom

    Now do it with iron sights!

    • Christopher Wallace

      IMPOSSIBRU

      • Major Tom

        Nothing is impossibru! Only improbabru.

    • GD Ajax

      Pointless. No one would never be able to hit the target at the range this bullet is meant for.

  • Giolli Joker

    I agree on the standards.
    Finnaccuracy gave more details but got one hit on target.
    This guy put three there that looks like more consistency and a lot more effort (as each hit is plenty).

  • micmac80

    So far there has not been any standard for these records Finnaccuracy didn’t even aim for the record .Kinda found out later.
    The whole thing started with the Spinella records that are kind of ‘duchebagerish’ as they get ,there is a whole circus to get this guy that might be completely inept shooter on target on a private ranch over a weekend ,build him a rifle for each atempt, get him the calculations and call the shots and then couple of dozen people are all pating themselves on the back for great succes getting the dude his record , In the video we see that barrel is smoking as they are shooting so many shoots to get on target. I have no respect for such pay to play record hunters.

    At least these projects are small and humble attempts by individual shooters, nowhere in Europe you have ranges that would allow you these kind of attempts for more than couple of hours.

    • gusto

      atleast in Sweden and I would guess Norway to (based on the longrangeblog on youtubue atleast)

      If you own land or have the hunting lease you can shoot on it aslong as you can do it safely, you just can’t install permanent fixtures turning it into a range

    • Frank Grimes

      Not really that much of an accomplishment.

      It’s easy to miss.

      All you gotta do is miss.

  • stephen

    “Not trying to take away the honor of these remarkable hits, but can I fire 1000 random rounds at 5000 yards and claim I have the record if I find a hole in the paper?”

    If your trying to compare yourself to this guy, then no, you don’t get 1,000 shots. You get twelve and see if you can get 4 shots on paper. Then you can claim to be ‘the Man’.

    😉

    • Raginzerker

      Erik makes a point though…. any chris Kyle wannabe with the space to make thoughs shots can just blast rounds at a target and claim they set a world record

  • Beardedrambler

    419 grains at >3k feet per second, that’s a hell of a round.

    • BigPapaJohnson

      Meh…these dude with their throat-eroding little boutique CheyTac calibers trying too hard

      50 BMG can throw essentially DOUBLE that weight, at 90% of the velocity. This is 808gr solids from a 36″ barrel. G1 ballistic coefficient of 1.128. This bullet will retain over 1k Ft-lbs muzzle energy 8000yds (4.5 miles) downrange. Show me a caliber and bullet SMALLER than .510″ that will do this

  • therealgreenplease

    Holy cow look at how the scope is mounted, lol

    • vwVwwVwv

      thanks.
      i dident see this. WOW

  • Basque

    “Gineste is a French soldier of the 1:st RCA ” Do one french non military citizen the freedom of try the same?

    • Thomas Royan

      If you are asking if a french citizen can own and shoot rifles like this, the answer is yes they can. They would have to find the land to try such a shot, but that’s a problem even the army would have.

      • Basque

        OK, thanks

  • FulMetlJakit

    Still impressive, but yes, there should be a standard; 3 rounds sighting/spotting, then 3 rounds “for real.”
    Or 7 straight rounds all-for-all?

  • Bill

    Yeah on the standards. That’s a 25% hit rate.

  • DanGoodShot

    Yup. Standard needed. Impressive non the less. But yea. More info and having a standard to go by would go a long way. Get it, get it, long way.. ha! I crack me up!

  • bebop

    By my quick math an FAA notification might be needed. Flying at or just below 1000 ft on this range might be unwise…

  • Sundude

    That is 2.579 miles. If you’re a drone, you need a guided missile and high explosive fragmentation to make a kill at that range. Looks like these hits are close to the accuracy of multi-million dollar missile systems

  • LetsTryLibertyAgain

    The related article bar at the bottom suggested I read TFB’s article about a 4380 yard shot. This article describes 4540 yard shooting. It seems that a practical limit is being reached. I’m somewhat intrigued by these extreme long distance records. While not cheap, it does seem that such pursuits are possible for many people if they are interested. Land in the southwestern US is sparsely populated and the laws are amenable to this type of activity. Alco Bullets is making some extreme BC bullets in sizes up to .308. If they’d apply that technology to larger calibers….

  • Kalash

    Not sure what you are talking about when you ask about firing 1,000 rounds at 5,000 yards and getting a hit.

    First, he fired 12 times, got three hits.

    Second, unlike you will ever be able to do, he fired ONLY 12 times and got THREE hits at 4,450 yards.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    Not very effective for field work but an awesome show piece for those who understand what is necessary to do this.
    Now if they allowed us access to the black ops set ups we would be seeing real competition in this arena. Digital tracking, anti-scintillation, zoom factor, and laser windage correction.

    Infringement?

  • Spidouz

    So much people talking crap here about this record… when in fact a whole documentation was done when he did a 3695m record not too long ago, he’s a well known Extreme Long Distance shooter and instructor and definitely not a “Chris Kyle wannabe”, he’s a E-7 military rank, and the two other world record holders did congratulate him for this record.

    Apparently world record owners aren’t trolling and talking crap about when writing or commenting an article about a new record, so why journalist and commenters would here?

  • ckeltz3

    What’s he smiling about? 4540 yards or 4540 miles….who cares?
    A is miss is still a miss. He missed.

  • Peatro Giorgio

    Heavy cannon of a custom rifle. Not one I would find conform in carrying around. Scope shimed 4 or more inches up off the action. Cheek piece elevated 4 or more inches above the stock. This rifles design is intended for long rang shots only, making closer in shots almost impossible. This is not a utility rifle in any manner. EVEN if one can afford the sticker price . NOT interested. Further more One can draw the out line of a human size target between each of his hits on paper . Each shot here is a clean miss .

  • Frank Grimes

    Why even write an article about misses?