Only Imperial Stormtroopers Are So Precise

Storm trooper

Obi Wan Kenobi pointed this out in Star Wars A New Hope. However we did not see such accuracy in most of the films.

CarRacerGVR4 goes to disprove this terrible stereotype perpetuated by Star Wars fans by participating in a USPSA match using a JP Rifles 9mm carbine in Pistol Caliber Carbine division. With the helmet on, he did a pretty good job hip firing. Actually he used a Viridian laser. Not sure if lasers are allowed in PCC division but this looks to be a local match and he probably did this as a fun run.

 

Here is another stage where he shot it ala “Skywalker style” with out his helmet.

 

I wonder if he tried a PCC with a folding stock and sling the weapon like SAS. That might allow him to aim with his helmet on.



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • John

    The Stormtrooper’s poor aim stems from a new hope. If one paid attention to the dialogue the imperials placed a tracking device on the millennium falcon and allowed them to get away to locate the rebel base. The Stormtroopers were intentionally missing.
    In the subsequent movies their aim was dead on

    • ARCNA442

      Look at the opening scene – they charge through a door into a prepared defense and still inflict more casualties than they take.

      • Mazryonh

        Still, the Stormtroopers boarding Princess Leia’s ship in A New Hope only use smoke before coming in. Weapons like hand grenades and even flamethrowers do exist in the Star Wars lore, but are conspicuously missing from that scene and could have quickly cleared out the first wave of Leia’s guards, who are also armed with only pistols despite supposedly being a diplomat’s bodyguards and not behind solid cover.

        • Phil Hsueh

          Would you really want to use hand grenades and flame throwers inside a space ship? Blasters seem pretty safe since they have less penetration than a BB gun, unless it’s against Stormtrooper armor, but with grenades you run the risk of blowing holes in the ship’s hull, and fires are always a bad idea aboard ships, both water borne and space.

          • billyoblivion

            Fires (non-electrical anyway) are easy to put out on a ship.

            Just open the door.

            Remember to hold your breath though.

          • Mazryonh

            I doubt that most non-civilian Star Wars ships are as fragile as 20th-century space stations which used very thin materials for walls. Leia’s “diplomatic” ship was supposed to be able to endure enough hostile fire to escape, anyway.

    • Martin M

      Agreed, but unfortunately they were no match for rock throwing teddy bears and angry shih-tzus with sticks.

      Legion of my finest… in a shaaks eye!

      • GD Ajax

        Good riddance to George Lucas, even the likes of Abrams is better than his garbage.

        • Out of the Blue

          I’m going to disagree slightly. He’s good at creating worlds, but at some point his ego got too big. Return of the Jedi was, in my opinion somewhat compromised to boost toy sales, but that’s a different motivator than ego. The prequels in general seem like they had a lot of concepts that needed a few more cycles of editing. Attack of the Clones is the worst offender, considering how all over the place the plot is.

          If you want to see someone who went full George Lucas even faster than George Lucas, look at M. Night Shamlayan. His first film is critically acclaimed and it immediately goes to his head.

          • DannyBoyJr

            I agree. Lucas has lost his way with the RotJ and the prequels. It’s like he forgot how to tell a story. The prequels got bogged down in trade disputes and realpolitik. Eps 4 and 5 are really the only great SW movies by Lucas.

            As for M Night, I don’t even give him credit for Sixth Sense. The twist might be shocking to those not paying attention. But overall, not too entertaining. And don’t even get me started on Lady in the Water. I stopped at around 20 minutes into the movie. Utter crap.

          • CourtLively

            Except Lucas did not director or edit E5. After the difficulties of getting E4 out to theaters he decided to sit back and only be a producer for E5. It’s no coincidence that “Empire” is the best of the entire Saga and has the least amount of Lucas grubby little paw prints on it.

        • Martin M

          I actually put Lucas above JJ. I had high hopes for TFA, but after the opening sequence all I could think was “haven’t I seen all of this before?” At least George did something new every time.

          Lucas’ only problem was a lack of someone to tell him NO. NO! George! NO!

          • noob

            *death star 2*

          • Martin M

            Death Star 3

          • Mazryonh

            Death Star 3

            Ahem, “Starkiller Base.” Or maybe “Star-killing Snowball.”

          • Rick O’Shay

            His wife was the one who would tell him “no” whenever he wanted to do something ridiculous in the originals. They got divorced, she wasn’t involved at all with the prequels and only minimally involved in ROTJ, and it shows.

      • John

        Ewoks are blaster resistant and have the strength of a wookie.

        They were faced against a hard to hit enemy that won’t go down when shot, can rip your arm off and throw metric ton rocks, and is employing guerrilla warfare

        • noob

          wait, is that literally gorilla warfare?

          • pun&gun

            The Rebellion recruited the ultimate ally… Harambe.

        • .45

          Please. Most of the scenes have the stormtroopers standing there letting the Ewoks do whatever to them, not firing a single shot.

    • Ambassador Vader

      Quiet rebel scum you’ll give away my tactics!

    • Roy G Bunting

      I want to know what the armor is good for if it doesn’t stop blaster fire or rocks? 🙂

      • “Blaster resistant” doesn’t mean blaster-proof, the same way there’s really no such thing as a “bulletproof” vest; CRISAT body armor with trauma plates also does a roughly equivalent job of turning many otherwise-fatal hits from contemporary weapons into minor/serious injuries, but it’s still going to fail from a direct facing hit with AP ammo at melee range, and you don’t see a lot of modern combatants asking what it’s good for.

        • Roy G Bunting

          Except that it encumbers like rifle plates and is susceptible to regular pistol shots.

          I like armor, it just seems this armor is more ceremonial…

        • Mazryonh

          You know your standard-issue armour that’s issued to billions of troopers galaxy-wide has a problem, when a bankrupt smuggler riding “a piece of junk” has no trouble inflicting fatal wounds through that armour with his sidearm.

          I thought that CRISAT was only good against fragments and non-AP pistol rounds, which means that it’s roughly equivalent to NIJ Level IIIA protection, not rifle-resistant Level III, and rifles with standard ammunition (i.e., non-AP ammunition that could pierce Level III protection) are very commonly used these days.

          • .45

            As I recall, EU lore has Solo’s pistol being unusually powerful for a pistol. Think .44 mag or so. Not sure how much that helps, especially given that Leia’s pistol is alledgedly a simple target/hunting pistol that might be the Star Wars equivalent of a .22 that also goes through their armor, but there it is.

          • Mazryonh

            Today’s Level IIIA body armour can stop .44 magnum rounds. Maybe Lucas was thinking in terms of 1977-era body armour though, which I don’t think was up to that level yet. Solo’s pistol sure did a number on Greedo though.

            In Star Wars lore, Leia’s weapon is a “sporting blaster pistol” intended for diplomats and civilian use, which makes one wonder why she took one with her to the operation to destroy the shield generator in ROTJ. She seemed to handle an E-11 blaster rifle, a military-grade weapon, just fine in ANH.

        • Phil Hsueh

          True, but this “blaster resistant” armor can’t even stop stone age weapons. What good is armor when it can’t even stop 3′ tall teddy bears armed with stone tipped spears, arrows, and rocks? I’m pretty sure that modern day military issue plates would shatter stone tipped weapons and drastically reduce the force of the impact from a rock thrown at you, even from a sling.

      • pun&gun

        In the lore, it stops glancing blows and weaker pistol rounds. In reality, it’s there to make them look generic and intimidating and evil.

      • A.WChuck

        It is Damage Amplifying armor. Proof: Leia takes a blast to her shoulder is still functional, any number of Stormtoopers take single hits and are down for the count.
        Likely sabotage from the slaves making the Empires armor.

    • Actually the quote came when Obi and Luke came across the disabled Jawa transport and dead Jawas that had sold Luke and his family R2-D2 and C-3PO. Luke thought the Banta tracks meant the Tusken Raiders (Sand People) had performed the attack, but Obi corrected him with the precision blaster hits.

      • Sianmink

        And that Tuskens always ride banthas single-file to hide their numbers.

    • .45

      *Cough* Ewoks *Cough*

      • Aaron

        Every time i think of Ewoks i hear their song, Yub Nub. A dj in baltimore had that song to play as the last one of his shift. Well, whoever was supposed to relieve didn’t show. That dj played Yub Nub over and over and over. He kept telling people why he was doing it and that he would keep on doing so until he was relieved. LOL

  • GD Ajax

    But it’s not a laser weapon, so it doesn’t count. *kappa*

  • Negative Nelly

    That does kind of pique my interest on how well a laser sighted rifle/carbine fired from the hip does in comparison to a shoulder and sight mounted rifle/carbine. I’ve never used a laser on a firearm. Can you shoot pretty well with them without using the regular sights?

    • Nicholas C

      I have done so at a night match and found it much faster than getting behind the sights and aiming. Plus I was strapped to the back of a mule going backwards and shooting targets.

      • Rick O’Shay

        Night match, strapped to the back of a mule going backwards…. this sounds like an interesting story.

  • Joshua

    It’s also worth noting that stormtroopers helmets have a DNA coded HUD with aiming reticle linked to the weapon.

    They don’t miss….unless George Lucas needs some excuse to keep one of his characters alive.

    It’s called plot armor.

    • Joshua

      the escape from cloud city was intended, Vader wanted Solo et al to escape so they could lead him to the rebel forces and give away their plans, and it worked, the other cases, what can I say, Force rules?

    • Mazryonh

      If you look at some of the old concept art, even the rebels at one point had anti-blaster armor that resembled Stormtrooper armor. But apparently the “plot armor” you mention was good enough and those concepts were discarded.

  • Hoplopfheil

    I was expecting a Sterling semi auto conversion or something! Disappointing!

    • noob

      yes! with the stock permanently folded so he can get his eyes inline with the sight.

      also don’t stormtroopers have some sort of HUD?

      • pun&gun

        Hmmm… can you take a Sterling reproduction and pin/weld the stock into the folded position, so you can chop the barrel to E-11 length and still call it a “pistol”?

        • noob

          I like the way you think 🙂 also weld fins all over the handguards.

  • gunsandrockets

    Nerdgasm!

  • Audie Bakerson

    He should have used a Sterling.

    • Brick

      Was just going to say this

    • Mazryonh

      Better yet, a Sterling SMG (the real firearm that the standard-issue for Stormtroopers “Blastech E-11” is modelled on) with its underfolding buttstock extended and a tall enough red dot sight mount, so someone using a Stormtrooper helmet can actually see through it while shouldering the Sterling. It kind of bugged me that neither the sight nor the buttstock were ever used in the original SW trilogy.

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  • jamezb

    LOL if the anti’s realized we were a bunch of Star Wars nerds, they wouldn’t be half as scared of us as they are.