HERA Arms CQR Stock and CQR Front grip

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TFB very recently reported about the California Legal CQR stock for AR15s.

There was a hint that another “all other states” version of this stock, plus a front grip, was around the corner.

Expecting to have to wait for a month or two for this to be released, we’re happy to show these products now rather than later.

The new HERA package consists of a CQR stock, now with an open pistol grip as well as a CQR front grip.

The only difference between the “normal” CQR and the “California” CQR is the addition of a “removable” machined aluminum plate, which prevents your fingers from accidentally – and illegally – gripping your fingers around a pistol grip.

As you can see the CQR front grip has a rather special design.

In fact I’ve never seen anything like it on an AR15, but I’m sure my ignorance will be pointed out in the comments section below.

I’m a bit surprised, I actually like the design. I’m telling myself I should hate it, but I don’t. I just can’t, it looks very cool and I think I want one.

A friend of mine’s comment was: “At least I don’t hate it“. That’s one way of putting it.

However, looking at the ergonomics I have a hard time to understand how the handling of the rifle will benefit in any way? But the parts are said to be “light weight”, but there’s no mentioning on how light.

Also, at least with the length of the hand guard pictured, it’s not possible to attach a bipod. Then again, some might never have that need, and most rifles aren’t  7.5″ SBRs.

The looks are very computer game friendly, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we see the HERA front grip in future games, in a virtual reality where you don’t have to worry about carrying the extra weight.

With a longer hand guard and barrel than pictured, I’m not sure that the design will look as good.

The barrel length is definitely SBR, it looks like their 7.5″ or possibly their 11.5″.

CA-HERA

Note the EOTech sight and Magpul PMAG D60 drum.

I can only presume that the German HERA design team took more than a few influences from the FN Herstal P90 submachine gun in 5,7×28 mm. (Yes I am aware that the P90 is a bullpup and the AR15 is not).

 

P90

FN Herstal P90

 

It’s stretching it a bit, but there are some features that resemble with the bullpup IWI Tavor, or even the Steyr AUG or Kriss Vector. If you want to stretch your imagination about the looks even further, you can go Star Trek  Klingon Sword Bat’leth.

Tavor

IWI Tavor flat top

Below is the California legal version again, without the front grip, to compare the designs. Now I wonder how the CQR stock would look on a Ruger Precision Rifle?

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Some more facts:

The new stock and grip could be available in about 4-6 weeks. There’s no pricing mentioned yet, other than it should be “attractive“. The standard version and California version will have 2 separate part numbers and different pricing.

The stock will come in 3 color choices, Black, FDE and OD Green.

The CQR front grip will be sold separately as well as with the butt stock.

There are separate aluminum spacers to adjust the length of pull.

The bottom plate on the stock comes off to expose a picatinny mounting rail for a rear mono-pod, like the B&T Industries Accu-Shot. I think the Magpul PRS Precision stock has a similar feature, and it can be retrofitted to the Magpul UBR as well.

According to LAN World Inc. -“We will have our first samples in about 1-1.5 weeks. Once we have the samples we will make a product video, like we usually do. This will help answer a lot of questions that most of you are asking as well as showing installation.”

In the USA you can check with LAN World Inc. for more information as it comes available. They are also taking pre-orders if you want a stock with your name on it, perhaps just before Christmas?

 

Meanwhile you should also check out the pretty cool HERA Arms AR-15 builder. Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure that only (some of) the furniture is available in the US, not the complete rifles. There’s nothing wrong in dreaming about parts and rifles one cannot afford or cannot get…

http://www.hera-arms.com/ar-15builder



Eric B

Ex-Arctic Ranger. Competitive practical shooter and hunter with an European focus. Always ready to increase my collection of modern semi-automatic firearms, optics and sound suppressors.


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  • Anonymoose
    • Major Tom

      Alien worlds filled with Ultranationalist Space Russian Islamic Terrorists who happen to speak Spanish and under the employ of a worldwide corporation that is run by a rogue AI.

      • Anonymoose

        And you just described next years cowadooty.

  • Spade

    I kinda want that for my 8″ PDW build, if it fits.

  • BearSlayer338

    Combine the stock and front grip with an AR57 upper and you get an AR90.

    • GD Ajax

      Totally going to do that. When I have the cash.

    • DekNgo

      That’s a decent idea actually…

      • BearSlayer338

        I plan on building it once I have the spare cash,never really been an Ar15 fan but this stock and grip makes me want to build one,plus I think it would like a badass Sci-Fi assault rifle.

    • iksnilol

      SCI FI UP IN THIS FEMALE CANINE!.

      • Steve S.

        Unspayed Female Dog.

    • jamezb

      i’M gonna do it. gonna do just that. and it’s YOUR FAULT. — THANK YOU!!!

    • William Elliott

      I’m wondering what that forend would look like on an X95

  • wetcorps

    There it is. We’re in the future.
    Took long enough.

  • Joe

    Finally, someone took Warfairy’s P90 AR models and made their own production version. Now I need to start planning a build…

    • PK

      Right? I saw the strong resemblance at a glance. I’m surprised more of the Foss pack hasn’t been put into production, especially a lot of the odd furniture. Much of it is visually striking but remains quite useful.

    • GD Ajax

      Except that it’s unlike Warfairy’s, it isn’t vaporware.

      • BearSlayer338

        Yeah,this one looks like it will actually hold up to many thousands of rounds of .223/5.56,unlike the weak 3d printed one.

      • I’ve printed and assembled the Charon. It’s not vaporware. It has many other flaws, but it does work.

  • Iggy

    The bipod issue could be solved (at least in the future) by modifying the front grip so you could mount one on the bottom of it, you could even integrate one and have it fold back out of the way inline with the angled bit behind the actual grip bit. (I hope this makes sense, I can’t upload an image). combine with the monopod on the stock and it could be a fun set up, at least aesthetically.

    • Anonymoose

      Just use one of those Vltor bipods that fold along the siderails.

    • DIR911911 .

      just make the forward grip a bit longer and use it as a monopod

  • Ambassador Vader

    That’s cool and all but making laser sounds when you shoot it is going to be a hassle. I would really like one but like all mfg’s today it’s probably going to cost a Brazilian dollars.

    • DIR911911 .

      Brazilions don’t use dollars , the Brazilian Real is only about 31 cents making it quite affordable

      • Phillip Cooper

        He’s probably referring to the need to get .. (ahem) “intimate” areas waxed in order to provide genetic material to be allowed to purchase the item in CA…

        • iksnilol

          Or it’s a reference to a certain politician asking how much is a Brazilian (he thought it was anumber ).

          • Ambassador Vader

            Lol I still love that story. You did it, you won the contest.

          • billyoblivion

            Reference please? That’s been used a couple times as a “The president is so dumb” jokes, but it’s been applied to a couple, and Google couldn’t find it for me.

          • iksnilol

            It’s a joke that was popular during the Bush administration, doubt it is true.

            Joke goes like this:
            During a war briefing, a reporter says that 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed yesterday. Bush, to everyones surprise, goes all “that’s horrible, my condolences, etc.” Then after a short pause he asks “how many is there in a Brazilian?”

          • billyoblivion

            Yeah, that’s the same joke I heard.

            From your previous comment it sounded like you believed the story to be true.

        • Rafael Soares Pinheiro

          As a Brazilian myself, I can confirm

      • Evan

        He’s using “Brazilian” as an imaginary very large number, because such numbers tend to have the -illion suffix, which sounds an awful lot like the -ilian at the end of Brazilian.

  • LazyReader

    Make your AR look even scarier this Halloween.

  • lowell houser

    “I’m a bit surprised, I actually like the design. I’m telling myself I
    should hate it, but I don’t. I just can’t, it looks very cool and I
    think I want one.”

    Me, too. And I hate AR’s(specifically cleaning them). And I think ultra short sbr’s are ridiculous. And I want one of these.

  • DIR911911 .

    seems like a lot of extra material on that stock that’s not really doing anything , same for that front grip. looks kind of neat but no.

  • Pete – TFB Writer

    I want one too.

  • GhostTrain81

    With this, you can join Commander Shepard’s Renegade Posse and kick the Reapers out of our galaxy.

    • Phillip Cooper

      I’m more concerned about the Reavers, thanks… how does gnawing on a guy’s face become fun?

      • William Elliott

        I wonder if this furniture can be adapted to Vera…she is my very favorite gun!

    • d_grey

      Andromeda rising.

  • Kyle

    I really like that stock. Not crazy about the foregrip but the stuck is pretty sweet.

  • marine6680

    It does Sci Fi up the look of an AR.

    I am dubious to believing it provides a practical benefit to an AR, but it looks neat.

    The California version is dumb. Holding the rifle without a way to wrap your hands around it, isn’t very secure. For a bench gun it’s fine I guess.

    There is another stock that has these weird contours, but because it does not touch the buffer tube, it can have a wrap around grip for your hand. I think that is a better option.

  • Phillip Cooper

    I’m torn on this. It’s a lot of excess plasatic, yet it’s also freaking cool.

    • Uniform223

      Ditto

  • alex waits

    The design of the front “VFG” looks like it doesn’t lend itself for the gun to pivot around the front takedown pin, thus, having to take both pins out to fieldstrip.
    But it does look cool.

  • LCON
  • BrandonAKsALot

    I love it and I can’t help myself. It’s like an all-growed-up P90.

  • Edeco

    Removable plate for CA? No, fuse that in there! Otherwise they could remove it, enjoy thumb hole capability, then put it back in and act like nothing happened.

  • Mmmtacos

    This rifle is destined to be a high-powered super alien gauss rail gun in some TV show or movie in the future.

    Like the Fostech Origin-12 did for Luke Cage (and earlier even for Daredevil S2, if only for a moment).

    • TJbrena

      Is that what Stryker’s rifle was? I knew I should’ve checked IMFDB.

  • Phillip Shen

    Looks f**ng dope maeng

  • Garmanarnar

    What about that stock makes it “CQB” ? How dumb.

  • SerArthurDayne

    Actually looks kinda cool.

  • Argartis

    I don’t really dig the foregrip but the stock is sweet.

  • Disarmed in CA

    The California safe model has no hole in the grip. After this year, the California safe model will have no hole in the barrel.

  • SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

  • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

    Weight was my immediate concern as well. For reference a CTR Stock, MOE Grip, & AFG weigh about 10oz total I believe. “Light Weight” is a very relative term with no context given.

    But darn that setup looks slick.

  • SpartanGears

    The future is now! Love this kinda stuff

  • Richard

    Looks like someone has been playing halo a lot

  • Raginzerker

    Is this the pre order bonus for the new call of duty game?

  • Adam

    Hmm, considering its a fixed Buttrick, would it be legal to run the front grip in NY? Makes me wonder and want one

  • I know “spacegun” is waaay overused, but danged if that sucker ain’t ready for action against an alien menace. Looking cool is half the battle with AR accessories, so this should take off in stellar fashion if the price is anything short of astronomical.

  • jamezb

    Well shoot.
    I tried not to like it… it sorta worked…
    I don’t LIKE it……I LOVE it.

  • DZ

    The question stands, does the front grip count as a VFG or a AVG?

    • mig1nc

      I was wondering as well.

  • Innovation

    Saw the discussion on the Kali model and thought the same as most;
    “Cool, would be awesome as a ‘real’ stock!”
    Now I’ll wait to see someone work out a left folder for piston guns.

  • Ben

    What kind of mags are those ?

  • mig1nc

    Any intel on an M-Lok or Keymod front grip?

  • Rusty Shackleford

    Looks cool, but how practical is it?

  • William Elliott

    I wonder if it is AR-10/SR-25/DPMS308 compatable….I have a rifle that would be perfect for. Sure, a little extra weight, but it would seriously improve the balance

  • 3==>~Sharia

    I think it looks cool, and probably more ergonomic than a VFG. I would only worry about people shooting it backwards ;-).

  • marine6680

    I think I would rather have function over aesthetics.

    I have seen people use the stock, it comes with the tube cover. It basically makes the rifle function and hold close to as originally intended.

  • Flyingfish42

    Might be a little heavy, but definitely like the shape of the front grip. Looks go be much more friendly on the wrists if you are having to carry it in a ready position than with a standard grip or one of the vertical variety without giving up any stability.

  • Phil Hsueh

    With CA’s stupid new laws coming into play next year I’m hoping that more companies start offering featureless solutions for us poor folk still stuck here in this unconstitutional state. I’m also hoping that some manufacturers of both ARs and AKs start offering pre-built featureless rifles for sale in CA and other restricted states as a sort of big FU to the antis.

  • pocketdrummer

    California is such a stupid ass state. What point is there to all those gun restrictions? It certainly isn’t to make anyone safer.

  • AJ KONO

    I like it. I’d own it

  • Vorant

    While this might look good as a movie prop the practical side of me is railing against making my weapon heavier, so I’m giving it a fail.

  • valorius

    It’s a neat look, that’s for sure.

  • American Patriot

    Keep it in Calif.

  • valorius

    If it’s priced competitively with magpul stocks and forearms/VFG’s, they’ll sell a lot of them. If not…they won’t.

  • Ted Eng

    I think it would be even cooler if the rear stock had a slot for a spare magazine.

  • Tothe

    California: The state that declares ergonomic design “illegal.”

  • Vorant

    Oh great more bulk….pass.