The Real Glock 1911: The Alchemy Arms Spectre

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Reddit user Mr_U_N_Owen posted the very first “Glock” 1911 that was offered for sale, the Alchemy Arms Spectre. It appears the .45 ACP pistol is more Glock than 1911 with what looks like a Glock 21 barrel and recoil spring, Glock slide lock, and XS Sights Big Dots perched on top of the curiously Glock like slide.

The Alchemy Arms Spectre features a slide stop where a 1911 shooter would find it natrual as well as a thumb safety. I wish I could say that the beavertail grip safety was the most off feature on this ugly duckling, but that award would have to go to the bike lock shoved into the bottom of the grip. What were they thinking? Wow.

Unsurprisingly the Spectre was a commercial flop in the early to mid-2000’s. With an MSRP of $799 when they were still being produced, there was literally no good reason to choose one even with a slogan like “the safest pistol on the market.” Surprisingly there was five different trim levels offered, Standard Issue, Service Grade, Service Grade Commander, Titanium Edition, and Titanium Edition Commander.

As much as I like weird handguns, this one might be a bit much for me. Ick.

Click here for the post on Reddit or click here for the Wikipedia article.

 

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Patrick R

Patrick is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and works in the shooting sports industry. He is an avid recreational shooter and a verified gun nerd. With a lifelong passion for shooting, he has a love for all types of firearms, especially handguns and the AR-15 platform. Patrick may be contacted at tfbpatrick@gmail.com.

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  • JustAHologram

    I can’t put my finger on why it’s unsettling but it is.

    • Risky

      Maybe its like the ‘uncanny valley’ but with pistols. The more something looks like either an actual Glock or 1911, the more we are perturbed by it until its indistinguishable.

  • A bearded being from beyond ti

    Looks like an airsoft gun

  • JoshCalle

    Can the industry please just put out a double stack 1911 that takes Glock mags? Timberwolf already makes a Glock frame that is fairly straight and 1911 like, there’s no reason we can’t have a pistol fed with common, cheap, reliable, high cap mags while also retaining the 1911’s god tier trigger.

    • Shane Gibson

      Para USA already makes them

      • Joe

        Para USA makes a 1911 that accepts Glock magazines?

        • Southpaw89

          They appear to be standard 1911 double stacks.

        • Mr Evilwrench

          No. The Para grip angle is 1911 the way God told JMB to make it.

      • FightFireJay

        Para USA has been discontinued by Remington parent corp.

      • Andrew Miller

        Para had proprietary magazines and is no longer in existence.
        CDNN had a pile of their guns for sale recently.

    • Harry’s Holsters

      Agreed!!! Glock Magazine and Glock barrel and Recoil system.

      Then 1911 trigger and thumb safety! Reliable and accurate! Price under $900 and you have a winner. I don’t know why the detonics 2011 that is supposed to be sub $1000 had to use 2011 magazines. They are expensive and seem to have a ton of problems. Just use Glock, Sig, M&P or CZ pattern magazines or build one from the ground up.

  • Shane Gibson

    If it doesn’t have a hammer I won’t use it

    • Joe

      Why?

      • Shane Gibson

        I don’t trust striker systems. Too many small parts that break too easily

        • Joe

          Glock 17 has 34 total parts.
          S&W M&P9 has 30 total parts.
          Colt 1911 has 49 total parts.
          CZ-75 has 64 total parts
          CZ PO7 has 50 total parts.
          Sig 226 has 55 total parts.
          HK P30 has 52 total parts.
          Browning P35 61 total parts.
          Beretta M9 76 total parts.

    • gusto

      so hard time finding a shotgun these days…

  • Christopher Wallace

    AY DIOS MIO a real glockteeneleven

  • Tyler McCommon

    Glockteen-11

    How does MattV2099 not have one?

  • flyfishr

    That’s an awful lock sticking out the bottom of the grip.

    • Anonymoose

      I’ll bet that’s one of the main reasons it flopped.

      • Billy Jack

        Prehistoric magazine screw?

        Minus that lock and the grip safety and I’d buy it before I’d buy a 19-Gen3-4

      • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

        THAT is the reason you think it failed? Alrighty then.

        • Anonymoose

          No, I think there are many reasons, but that huge key lock on the bottom is a reminder of the AWB and S&W’s collusion with Bill Clinton.

          • maodeedee

            Not only that but it adds weight, complexity and one more thing that can either malfunction or fail due to operator error.
            It does not make the gun safe. Storing the gun unloaded without the magazine would be a much more intelligent option.
            I think it was a definite contributing factor as to why the gun failed

  • olivehead

    When I first looked at it, my thought was Glock not 1911. Fail.

  • Tom

    So is the lock to lock the weapon or some kind of weird Californian magazine release?

  • Harry’s Holsters

    That managed to take the worst parts of the glock and 1911 and mix them!

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  • JT303

    Seems like a good concept executed terribly. The best parts of the glock and 1911 would be pretty darn good. This appears not to have been properly thought through, which probably explains why the company didn’t sell many.

  • MeaCulpa

    The strangest development meeting ever must be behind this gun.

    – What is the single safety that’s worse than the Glock trigger safety?
    – A grip safety?
    – isn’t that a beloved feature that makes people choose the 1911 instead of the browning high power?
    – dude, no, just no.
    – Good, grip safety it is!
    – are you even listening?
    – yes, fit it with a lock from a filing cabinet as well.
    – okay, I guess, maybe we could, I don’t know, hide it? Mount it flush with the bottom of the grip? That could sorta, kinda, work in some way… of sorts….
    – NO! People love the feeling of youth and hi-tech they get from a filing cabinet! Make it stick out as far as possible! SHOW ME THE FILING CABINET LOCK!!!!
    – Are…. are you sure? That seems sort of unlikely and that reference feels old even now.
    – Hogwash, everybody loves sorting and filing, this is a sure thing! Tom Cruise is way straight!
    – McKay, I guess stellar reliability could be a redeeming factor, maybe we’ll sell a couple to cash strapped pensioners at least if we make it cheap as h*ll and hella reliable. FYI I doubt your last statement.
    – NO! People LOVES exclusive things. Like ferraris! Everybody love ferraris! Like Tom cruise in that Ferris movie with than super fun guy from Spin City.
    – yeah, but ferraris are beautiful this thing is… nobody with functional eyesight could possibly like this thing. It looks like a mashup between a 80s Volvo and, and a worse looking glock?! FYI that was that other guy that… well lets just avoid the car references concerning him. It. gets. Dark…
    – Yes but we’ll make it horribly unreliable, just like a Ferrari. Super exclusive. Well even neglect including the magazines from time from time! That is 80s Ferrari level of exclusivity! Have I told you about the time when I went on a Irish car trip with the guy that was in that movie with that guy cutting school and… it was a sweet vacation, who would have thought that the Irish drove on the opposite side of the road compared to the British. Really strange….. hey what are you doing? dont talk with a gun in your mouth, that’s just rude.

    • gusto

      what is wrong with an 80s volvo?

      they are beautiful in their own right, clean lines. they spearheaded new safety thinking that is standard today

      the 240 and 740 series are the kalashnikovs of cars

      rearwheel drive like god intended

      And what is so bad with a grip safety?

      • mig1nc

        XD fans seem to be ok with it.

      • randomswede

        I see Volvo I must upvote, it’s local law.

  • BearSlayer338

    I’ve been looking for one of these since I found out about them 5 years ago,still haven’t found one yet but if I do it will be mine.

  • Edeco

    Usually I think variety is great, but this is an abomination, a crime against nature, humanity, and possibly a diety or dieties if one is so inclined.

  • Sasquatch

    Its…. Its an abomination! Must be killed at once!

    • gunsandrockets

      It’s already dead Jim.

  • I love this goofy thing, it looks like a cop’s sidearm from a superhero comic book.

  • Giolli Joker

    This reminded me of the reaction of Zach Galifianakis in The Hangover 2 upon seeing the lady-boy prostitute naked…

  • iksnilol

    I am disgusted. This is worse than mojitos or brown leather shoes.

    • Dougscamo

      You wear black with khakis?….

      • iksnilol

        I don’t wear khakis at all. I’ve got some class for goodness sake.

        • Dougscamo

          That was hurtful……sob….sniff….not all of us can afford English tweeds….

          • iksnilol

            You could just wear jeans, I mean, that’s like some of the most common legwear there is.

            And doesn’t make you look like an extra from American Sniper.

          • Dougscamo

            You think I’m talking about BDU’s don’t you? Since I carry a wallet, a badge holder, a clip knife, a “Sunday go to meeting” .380, a Glock 23, car keys, money clip, pocket change, etc., jeans are not an option….unless I’m going to a wedding….and then I wear brown cowboy boots…

          • Mr Evilwrench

            I’ve been known to carry more than that in my jeans, and not all of it is permanently attached to me.

          • Dougscamo

            I left out the 2 cans of Skoal and a Gerber folding knife that I normally carry as well…..

  • ReadyorNot

    I actually wouldn’t mind a thumb safety on a Glock (I know, please don’t kill me).

  • randomswede

    I would have stuck the Glock slide on a 6″ STI 2011 frame and ixnay on the beaver tail and gun lock. This of course comes with mandatory schoolgirl style giggling interspersed with mad-scientist style cackling.

    Here’s 10,000 hours of photoshop to show how “superior” my concept is to the Alchemy Arms Spectre:
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  • FactChecker90803

    Bought the Service Grade Commander (SGC), in 2005 good concept but the ” Keyed Internal Safety” has its limitations adds needless weight to the gripp. Quility was shoddy, and the box came with only 1 magazine not the 3 advertised.

    • Old Vet

      My condolences and I am not meaning to be snarky. To each his own.

  • Old Vet

    What is it with this Hollyweird thing about putting everything imaginable on guns today? Is it because of the retarded video games weapons? I don’t get it. The more we engineer this foolishness the more we denigrate the art of beautiful guns.

  • maodeedee

    I won’t buy a Smith and Wesson with a lock and I love Smith and Wessons but luckily a good used one is easy to find and are better guns than the new ones besides. And I wouldn’t buy one of these guns just for that reason alone, and the LAST thing a 1911 needs is a Glock slide