The 10/22 That Would Make Bill Ruger’s Head Pop

10/22 Takedown

Sometimes a brief mention of politics is necessary to offer a historical perspective on what makes a particular gun interesting. In this case, the gun in question is a new Takedown 10/22 being offered by Davidson’s.

William “Bill” Ruger is possibly as famous for his alleged pro gun control stance as he is for making high quality firearms. In a March 1989 letter to the United States Congress, Bill Ruger stated his support for legislation that would “…prohibit the possession of high capacity magazines.” He went on to say that “…a simple, complete and unequivocal ban on large capacity magazines…” would be a more effective law than trying to “outlaw or license” guns that would be ultimately called “assault weapons.”Β Some may make the argument that he was trying to derail potentially devastating gun control legislation by offering something that was less devastating – the lesser of two evils, so to speak.

Regardless, Sturm, Ruger & Co had a variety of things missing from its catalog prior to the current management team. One of the most obvious missing items from the company’s line up were so called “high capacity” magazines for the 10/22 rifle.

Sure, you could get a “hot lips” magazine from Midway or the local gun shop, but there was nothing with the Ruger brand on it. In 2011, that changed with the introduction of the BX-25 magazine. Suddenly, 25 rounds of rimfire could be fed from a true Ruger magazine.

Davidson’s is taking advantage of those magazines and developed a special edition 10/22 Takedown rifle that comes with the BX-25 magazine standard. The rifles are also fitted with a decidedly non-PC Ruger flash suppressor on the end of its threaded barrel. What would Bill Ruger say?

These guns have a black polymer stock and a stainless steel barrel and receiver. Davidson’s via the Gallery of Guns shows these as having a MSRP of $504.32 with the scope base adapter and rugged take down case.

Anyone following the industry can tell you that Sturm, Ruger & Co. is not the same company it was under Bill Ruger. The company now happily sells AR-style rifles in a variety of calibers in addition to plenty of “high capacity” magazines and other things Bill Ruger would have likely objected to. May I respectfully suggest that anyone holding a grudge against the company for Bill Ruger’s actions reconsider their position? Ruger is making some good guns and seems to be solidly in the pro-rights camp.



Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • StraightshooterJeff

    William is spinning so fast in his grave you could hook him up to the national grid.

  • Major Fret

    I’m pretty sure any 10/22 could have made Bill Ruger’s head pop

    • mazkact

      Ole Bill designed the 10/22.

      • Norm Glitz

        Sarcasm.

      • Vizzini

        Think about it.

        • mazkact

          When I am in Mechanical mode I sometimes don’t get it πŸ˜‰ I got it after Norm’s response just did not feel the need to reply.

  • Chilly Billy

    There are people who hate the Japanese and Germans for acts committed in WW2. Others blame their current lot in life on the fact a distant relative ten generations ago was enslaved. And then there is the Balkans…

    Petty, spiteful people will find a way to hate or blame no matter what. A sad part of humanity.

    Kudos to the modern day Sturm, Ruger & Co. for listening to their customers and making the products we want.

    • iksnilol

      Hey, my neighbour (in my homeland) is sorta a war criminal and kinda mighta have shot a family member of mine.

      I think I’m logical in hating the f*** and being careful around his ilk considering he isn’t unique.

      -Somebody from the Balkans.

      • gusto

        my neighbour growing up still celebrated Titos birthday and refused to call himself anything but Yugoslav

    • marathag

      I wanted a Mini-14 that didn’t pattern like a shot out SKS.
      Lot of decades passed before that happened

      • DJ9r

        I had a mid-80s Mini-14 that repeatedly shot one-inch groups.

        I was just never sure WHERE that one-inch group was going to appear on the target…

    • Edeco

      Carthago delenda est.

    • richard kluesek

      Chilly Billy back in the day I owned 2 Mini 14 s as an Auxiliary cop and traded them in for AR s to have 30 round GI magazines. Was turned down to purchase Service Six .357 because it had fixed sights, as a civilian customer Ruger would not sell it to the local gunstore without full time police id, so I bought S&W and Colt. No grudge, just desire for features and benefits. Gave awaymy 1022 to a family member. Since 2006 have acquired another 1022, 3 fixed sight Security Six es, an SR9 and a P345. Bill lost my business but like you say praise be to the contemporary management at Sturm, Ruger, & Co. Wish they were competing in the US Forces handgun competition now underway.

    • steve

      well, god himself does say that we all deserve to be horrifically tortured and burned alive in hell for all eternity simply for the “crime” of eating fruit committed by our distant ancestors (before they even had any concept of right send wrong.)
      Just sayin.

  • Standard Velocity

    Bill Ruger was a smarter man than anyone whom I have seen post to this blog (Nathaniel may be on par).

    Why is it necessary to post such an obviously politically motivated statement in the one tiny corner of the internet that purports to be politic free?

    Not trying to be a jerk but Bill Ruger was flippin’ brilliant. Has the dead horse been beaten hard enough yet?

    • DaveP.

      Being smart isn’t the same thing as being right, nor is being smart any kind of insulation against doing or saying or believing things that are barking-on-all-fours stupid. Bill Ruger may have been one clever gun designer, but he also went out of his way to side with people who wanted to, not just ban ‘high capacity magazines’, but eventually ban all gun ownership period. Then he refused to back down and stood by his agreement with the Josh Sugarmans and the Sarah Bradys and the Chuck Schumers for the rest of his life. That level of stupid erases any gold stars his teacher might have pasted on his homework.

      • Josh

        Very well said

        • DaveP.

          Gratz.

      • richard kluesek

        DaveP. I recollect that Mr. Ruger is credited with a remark that “No honest man needs more than 10 shots.” The FBI used to tote Thompsons with 100 round drums while their bean counters determined that each shootist in the average gunfight fires 2 or 3 shots. Guess they are not honest ?

    • Klaus Von Schmitto

      I said screw him then and I say screw him now even though he’s dead. That is a horse I’ll beat as much as I’d like just as a warning to other people who think they know what’s best for me.

  • Mark Miles

    The 25 round Ruger 10/22 magazines were recently re-classified as a prohibed device here in Canada by the RCMP.

    • Twilight sparkle

      Sounds like y’all should prohibit the Royal Canadian mounted police

      • That would certainly lead to a population jump for the First Nations.

        • Joe

          How so? Not familiar with Brit/French Canucks and the Indigenous peoples relationship with each other in the slightest.

          • Well, the RCMP has an unfortunate institutional habit of oppressing and killing Native Canadians; they’re apparently fond of finding ordinary nonviolent drunkards on the street, driving them outside of town, beating them senseless, and leaving them in the snow. You know how bad people think the relationship is between America’s law enforcement community and Black community, largely because the 24 news cycle plays it up so much? It actually is that bad in Canada, largely because the media mostly ignore it.

    • Swarf

      The police just get to decide what’s legal and what’s not?

      • Holdfast_II

        Under the law it’s delegated to the Cabinet (i.e. the executive), and so since they know nothing about guns and don’t want to have to make unpopular decisions, they delegated it to the RCMP.

        That’s what you get when ownership of firearms is a privilege, not a right. To be fair, Canada’s gun laws are better than most western counties not named “USA” or “Switzerland”, but it could all change overnight with little to no public input.

        • Mystick

          At least you can go above .50… :/

        • Audie Bakerson

          Czech Republic aren’t western?

          • CountryBoy

            Let me Czech on that and get back to you…

  • DanGoodShot

    Imo, I don’t understand the people that hold an entire company liable for the actions of one man. Ruger is a great American company that I fully support.(Now that its past the “Bill” phase.) I love my Scout!

    • Hinermad

      Because it’s easier than actually thinking about who to blame.

      • Which is, of course, almost always “legislators and oligarchs from New York and California”.

  • Mark Chavendish

    The Super 42 Braided Wire Buffer Spring from Gisele is top notch. Almost as quite as my JP Silent Capture and a fraction the cost. It’s a lot for a spring, but I’ll continue to use the Gisele braided springs for my future builds.

  • Captain Obvious

    Nobody named Ruger works for Ruger anymore. Time to move past the Ruger bashing. In all fairness to Bill however, his company was under siege by the media, lawyers and the government because the Mini 14, and even the 10/22, had been used in a number of mass shootings. He was trying to save his company.

  • Tiru Maru

    We all know about Bill Ruger. But who is Sturm?

    • Disarmed in CA

      Alexander McCormick “Alex” Sturm (June 23, 1923 – November 16, 1951) was an American artist, author, and entrepreneur who co-founded in 1949, the American firearm maker, Sturm, Ruger & Co. Sturm provided the start-up money and designed the Germanic heraldic eagle that is found on Ruger guns.

      • Norm Glitz

        The eagle on the first Ruger guns was red. It was changed to black on Alex Sturm’s death. Red reappeared on some 25 anniversary specials dedicated to him, IIRC.

  • QuadGMoto

    I had long ago forgotten Bill Ruger’s dumb move until this article brought it up.

    My current problem with Ruger is the same problem I would have with any firearms manufacturer who could not drill a straight hole, especially when that hole is how the barrel connects to the receiver. (This is an ongoing problem with 10/22’s.)

    Oh, and those factory BX-25’s allow rimlock if the round is “too short”.

    • guest

      I have several BX25 mags, all of which are very finicky about ammo. Load them up with CCI Blazers or Mini-Mags–otherwise ammunition of high quality–and about halfway into the magazine they start nose-diving and hanging up on the little feed ramp that is built into these magazines at the front of the feed lips, or failing to raise the rim high enough for the bolt to pick it up.

      They work fine with crappy Remington “Golden Bullet” bulk pack, but that stuff is 5% duds.

      It’s frustrating. The magazines seem well made enough, but it seems like with some ammunition it isn’t holding the top round high enough, or giving enough spring pressure to hold the top round at the correct angle.

  • William Johnson

    Back in the late 90’s Ruger’s insurance plan would not pay out for any motorcycle accident if the employee was not wearing a helmet, regardless of the legality where the accident occurred. I am a pound owner of several Rugers, but am so happy the old management is long gone.

    • gusto

      of course you should be forced by law to wear a helmet.

      it is not only affecting you, you are endagering others by not wearing a helmet, or god forbid you wipe out and some poor schmuck gotta pick pieces of skull from the pavement because you were to cool to not wear a helmet

      • Mystick

        I fail to see how this particular PPE effects the safety of others. That being said, I wear one because everyone else on the road is a complete moron, based upon observational evidence πŸ˜‰

        • In purely practical terms, a motorcycle rider turned into a vegetable by a smashed melon is a drag on the economy and a strain on emergency response infrastructure; you’re not wasting as much (billable) time for as many people if you can pick yourself up and give a verbal report to first responders as you would be if they have to pick to pick you up with a shovel and carry you away in a sack. Also, yes, everyone else on the road is a murderous idiot and should definitely be avoided.

          Always wear safety gear– poor judgement is a team sport, and other people get to decide whether you’re on their team without asking you first.

          • Smedley54

            Motorcyclists that eschew helmets in favor of asphalt are called organ donors, and they provide a valuable public service.

          • uisconfruzed

            All street bike riders are called organ donors.

          • CountryBoy

            I owe one of them my gratitude, as his “selfless” (literally) actions freed me from dialysis, and no doubt did a similar service to several others waiting for organs. When it comes to such things, the “Parts is Parts” phrase is false, and waiting almost eight years for a kidney while doing something I never dreamed of to stay alive ensured I will forever be a donor myself.

            The surgeons do call them “donorcycles” for that reason, as most of the donors from bike wrecks weren’t wearing helmets. The head injuries seal their fate, yet the donated organs are usually in fine shape if the person wasn’t an addict, or similar.

            But in my own riding I will wear a helmet, as my family doesn’t care if I look “cool” on a bike as long as I’m alive to be there.

          • Vizzini

            By all means outlaw football, skiing, snowboarding, motocross, boxing, MMA, bull riding, riding horses, and on and on. Those activities are just too darn dangerous and it says right there in the Bill of Rights that we have a fundamental right to not have anyone be a drag on our economy. (Wait. It does say that, right? I’m just assuming.)

          • Sure– now go ahead on and try to join an organized competition in any of those sports without wearing appropriate safety gear, see how far you get.

            State governments have a vested interest in preventing their limited public service resources from being unnecessarily wasted on irresponsible morons, and we all have a vested interest in not seeing our tax dollars wasted in the process. Every first responder involved in mopping up some dingus who thought motorcycle helmets (or seatbelts or functioning brakes/lights/etc.) were optional equipment is a first responder who isn’t available if an intelligent person has an emergency for which they weren’t personally responsible.

            The Bill Of Rights, by the way, does in fact address collective public safety; the purpose of a well-regulated militia in Colonial and Post-Revolutionary America was primarily to act as a community defense force in the absence of a standing army or regular constabulary presence.

          • Vizzini

            The second amendment, like all the rights mentioned in the BoR, protects an individual right.

          • Yes, and it also specifically states that the reason for that individual right is to facilitate public service; We The People had to be able provide for our own protection– of our persons and our community– in an era when there was no reasonable expectation of timely official response. That’s why it’s still relevant today, given how many people live in areas where law enforcement either doesn’t go or doesn’t go quickly.

          • Vizzini

            Fine. Your point? The amendment in no way restricts nor mandates any behavior by individuals.

  • PK

    Threading, decent mag capacity, features that aid in carry/concealment, great. Ruger is edging toward the modern gun crowd and even the NFA crowd bit by bit… but where are the factory 10/22 SBRs? With the number that seem to get made, it would be a hot seller.

    • Twilight sparkle

      Just get a 22 charger and do the paperwork to put the stock on yourself

      • PK

        I already have 10/22 SBRs, but that would have been easier. When I filed those F1s, the Charger hadn’t been released or even announced.

        I simply think that Ruger would do well to offer 10/22 factory short barrel models, given the popularity of the system overall.

        • Bigbigpoopi

          Why do that when the “arm braces” exist now?

    • gusto

      aren’t there takedown chargers out there? take the barrel from the charger and the stock/action from a regular 10/22 and voila?

    • Bah– you’d be better off drilling a 16″ barrel for integral suppression and spending the two hunnit bux on a stamp for a can.

      • PK

        I like my SBR 10/22s, thanks all the same. I prefer the best of all options, so I dropped $400 on each for the compact package and a silencer. Wonderful woods guns.

  • Hoplopfheil

    Finally a rifle that tames the wild, irrepressible, ear shattering report of the .22LR cartridge!

  • Marvinator
  • gusto

    died a couple of years ago): yeah he was pretty red πŸ˜› rocking che guevara t-shirts in his 70s very vocal in union work at the local plant.

    my head still hurts just thinking about drinking that rake at his funeral.

    people here from the balkans always seemed to get along. with one exception, turks and kurds to

    played handball against a team from stockholm named club serbia or something and when they heard one of my teammates was from Kosovo SHTF. total Football Factory reenactment

  • jamezb

    The Ruger companies guns are generally, but not always, above average quality, and I applaud the directions the company has taken since Bill’s death. I don’t for a second believe Bill would have supported the CCW revolution and would have probably eliminated pistol barrel lengths shorter than 6″, added huge target grips to all his pistols, and renamed all of them “Hunter” instead of offering the LWC guns!
    But then again it I could be wrong..
    Yes, Bill leant his name and public support to the cause of, ostensibly neutering black rifles.
    It should not, however be ignored that in exchange for his support in the cosmetic neutering of the black rifles, his Mini-14 and 10-22 were allowed to continue sales and completely avoid the ban…
    ….in a ripe aftermarket full of 10-22 and Mini 14 folding stocks, flash hiders and hi-cap magazines the likes of which had never before seen until the return of the no longer restricted legally modifiable black rifles.and the current AR/AK aftermarket.
    The aftermarket accessory market for Bills rifles carved the outline for the billion dollar aftermarket we have today.
    Just imagine You could be Bill in this position…. and quietly, through third parties, buy as much stock as you could in the aftermarket companies making “assault” parts for YOUR guns? Then ride that wave for a decade!?!?
    I don’t know that he DID this, but he’d have to be kinda stupid NOT to, wouldn’t he?
    His accountants and lawyers certainly would have recommended he do so!
    In closing, I suspect Bill wasn’t morally opposed to high caps and flash hiders.. He was opposed to competition in the market, and found a way to stab a whole segment of the industry in the neck and profit by doing so.

    • jamezb

      So, Bill, congrats, but in the same breath, good riddance you greedy jerk.

  • Lee Enfield

    So maybe when old man Glock dies we’ll get a Glock carbine?

    • DJ9r

      Depends on which ex-wife ends up with the company when he passes.

  • Simmer down, Tapco.

  • mazkact

    Bill was a genius and like many a genius he was shall we say “eccentric”. I will always respect Bill’s mechanical wizardry and regret his fuddness.

  • It costs how much?

    • DJ9r

      The model pictured at the top of the page is the 11125; MSRP is $Ridiculous, but the street price is probably $75-$95 more than a stock 10/22 Takedown. For that added cost, you get the extended mag, fiber-optic iron sights, and a threaded 16.62-inch (?) barrel with a Mini-style flash hider.

      All ready for a Ruger-brand suppressor (speaking of things that probably would have given old Bill a heart attack…).

  • Sasquatch

    Such a shame a talented man was held back by such personal restictions.

  • LetsTryLibertyAgain

    You certainly may suggest that I rethink my boycott of Sturm Ruger & Co, now that the gun banning Quisling Bill Ruger has passed away and the new folks at Ruger realized that the company was doomed if they continued trying to sell guns while selling out gun owners, but I’m going to stick with my little boycott. I hold no ill will toward the people trying to make a living at the new Ruger company, but the day I buy a gun manufactured by that company is the day they change their name and are no longer trading under the name of a guy who made a lot of money from gun owners while using his prominent position within the gun industry to undermine the rights of gun owners. Yes, I carry a grudge for a long time when my fundamental right to keep and bear arms is threatened. I believe the bad press Ruger is still getting 25 years later provides a good message to all firearms manufacturers. You can’t sell guns after selling out gun owners.

    I also wasn’t too happy that Ruger made a direct interchangeable parts copy of the Kel-Tec P-3AT with a prettier injection molded frame and a bolt hold open feature, and had the gall to tell us that their “engineers started with a blank sheet of paper” when they designed the LCP. Yeah, they fed a blank sheet of paper into a copy machine and pressed the copy button to create their Little Cloned Pistol (TM). I would have had a lot more respect for them if they admitted they were copying the P-3AT and making it prettier. Don’t lie to my face like that. Not cool, Ruger. Not cool. It’s the sort of deception I’d expect from one of Michael Bloomberg’s anti-gun groups.

    • uisconfruzed

      If you’re consistent, you don’t own any S&W either.

      • LetsTryLibertyAgain

        I am consistent. No Rugers or S&W, and I still manage to find plenty of guns to buy!

        • uisconfruzed

          Yup, I got rid of my 3 Smiths, keeping my Rugers & enjoy the rest of my arsenal.

  • dltaylor51

    In the late 80’s i scored two govt.only model mini 14s that were not for sale to the general public and both of these guns were tack drivers and never a malfunction or hiccup of any kind.I bought 3 civilian models since then and not a single complaint.I have my grandads Ruger blackhawk 41 mag he bought new in 65 (serial# 2x) and this gun has fired thousand of rounds and will out shoot any magnum pistol that Ruger now builds,triggers on the old three screws just get better with age and the barrels just get more accurate.

  • Zobeid

    Bill Ruger was an old-school guy, and I’m old enough to sort of see his viewpoint. I can remember when cops carried 357 revolvers. I remember when a man’s rifle was a lever-action 30-30 or a scoped, bolt-action 30-06 for hunting deer, which was the only reason most grown men would ever think of having a rifle. A 22 LR, probably a single-shot, was for Junior. You gave him one bullet and told him not to come home without a squirrel for the pot.

    The Colt AR-15 Sporter was on the market, but was rarely seen, and owning one marked you (or, more accurately, me) as a real eccentric, and the main question everybody asked was, “What in the world is that thing good for? You can’t hunt deer with that, can you?”

    And you know what? We got by Just Fine that way. That’s the world Bill Ruger came from. He didn’t see giving up semi-auto rifles with large magazines as a big deal because he grew up in a world where few people saw any need or held any desire for those. And when the world moved on, he just didn’t move with it.

    Does anybody remember the big flap over Jim Zumbo in 2007? Same thing. He was made into a pariah because he criticized the use of ARs and AKs. But he wrote his first article for Outdoor Life in 1962. As far as firearms and the firearm community is concerned, he came from a world utterly unlike that of today.

  • gregge

    Someone should make a Thompson style stock and foregrip kit for the Ruger 10/22 with a 100 round drum magazine. Call it a Rommy Gun. πŸ˜‰

  • Vizzini

    Why do you need a flash suppressor on a .22 LR? I admit, I’ve never fired one in pitch darkness, but I can’t imagine there’s notable flash even then. After 16″ the tiny amount of powder in a .22 LR should be all burned up.

  • Professor Z

    What I said this about? This rifle was out 3-4 years ago…I don’t get it.