The Best AK Ever? Galil ACE 800+ Round Rifle Review

The Galil ACE by IWI is the successor to the classic Israeli Galil that was itself an upgraded Kalashnikov. But is this new design worthy of the name Galil, a rifle that we here at TFB love? Can it redeem the good name of IWI after the Tavor, Uzi Pro, and X95? Well these questions can be answered by an 810 round reliability test and review.

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– The Galil ACE, the successor to the classic Israeli AK variant that is still in use today around the world.

So why the update? Why even bother resurrecting an old design? Well, the answer is a bit strange.

7.62 by 39 is a popular caliber around the world, and tons of nations are set up to produce it.

However, there aren’t that many firearms that use it aside from AKMs.

The fins have the Sako Rk.95TP, but that isn’t even in production anymore.

So IWI answered the call and introduced the ACE, an improvement over the old Galils in many ways that is now available in 7.62 by 39, making it appealing to other nations.

Now, it’s no secret that I’m a fan of the old Galil.

I once called it Israel’s best small arm, and it is a favorite of mine.

I’ve done a video on my classic example, but is the new model a worthy successor? It’s no secret that I’m not a big fan of the Tavor, and I think IWI has a lot to make up for with guns like the UZI PRO and the accuracy problems of the X95.

But what about this gun? Well, let’s check out some of its features.

First, we have a set of great sights.

The front is an adjustable post with a glowing night sight.

The rear is an AR15-like peep with two glowing dots and settings for 300 and 500 meters.

The rear sight can also be removed.

The muzzle device resembles a simple A2 birdcage.

The stock is user-adjustable and can be folded for ease of storage.

I do wish it used an AR15 buffer tube, though.

The safety can be operated from either side, but on the left side it has a switch like the classics.

The elimination of the dust cover safety results in a more well-sealed system.

The charging handle is on the left side, which is brilliant, and the sliding dust cover resembles one found on an M249 FNC or the old Micro Galils.

The foreign comes with the rail system to add whatever the user desires, and the pistol grip features a storage compartment.

So how does it shoot? Well, I brought out 27 loaded magazines to shoot, for a total of 810 rounds.

Let’s see how it does.

Alright, here we go, first shots with my new Galil ACE let’s see how it performs.

(cocks gun) (gun firing) Okay, it’s a really sweet shooting gun, the recoil is mild for 7.62 by 39, not that 7.62 by 39 is ever a high recoiling cartridge.

It does seem to recoil straight back a little bit more than a traditional AK, and what would really tame this would be a muzzle break, not that that’s gonna make or break my decision to purchase it if I was in the market, but with something like a PWS or something, this would be a sweet shooter and I might add one.

(gun firing) Alright, something I immediately noticed that I like about the Galil ACE is that while it does have a polymer lower, some of you guys might not like that, it does kind of function like a jet funnel magazine well on a pistol, like a competition pistol.

You’re not gonna get mag lock.

I’ve been messin’ with this thing for a while, inserting mags, taking them out, and it’s just really dang easy to rock ’em in there.

It almost guides it into place perfectly, and a mag change with this thing is remarkably quick and easy, and you can do the thing where you knock out the mag with the trailing mag, if you want to.

I’m not a fan of that technique, but a lot of people are.

(cocks gun) Also, it’s very smooth.

It’s hard to compare to the original Galil, because they are very different guns.

It’s smooth, but not as smooth as a Valmet, however, I do like that the charging handle’s on the left side of the gun, that does make things more natural for me as a right-hander.

I can have the gun up and naturally operate it this way.

You can also use that as a forward-assist, if you have to.

And I really like that safety, just like the original Galil.

(gun firing) You know, it’s throwing the shell casing out of there with consistency, not too hard.

The original Galil really throws the cases out of there, it’s like a giant brass rainbow.

This thing, not as violent as that.

Does its job, does it right.

Let’s keep shooting.

So I wanted to go ahead and get the accuracy portion of the test out of the way earlier on, so I used the included cheek riser which is nice that it comes with the gun, then went ahead and threw in my 4X Acog on top of the rail.

The rail doesn’t run the top of the receiver which is nice, so I lined it up on the back of the ranger and fired several five shot groups at an IDPA silhouette that I spray painted with green spray paint.

I actually ran out of stick-able targets that day when I was sighting and various other things, but I will say the recoil impulse from this gun kind of posed a little bit of a problem here.

I like to get my eye pretty close to the acog and it really wanted to flip back.

Almost got me a few times but didn’t quite make it, just kissed me a little bit on the eyebrow, but what was really impressive was the groups.

That first one right there you saw was a little bigger than one and a half, this was the best one but I do consider this a fluke, just a little under one inch, that was the best group of the day by far.

However I would not a (mumbles) gun.

So next up we have about a one and a quarter inch group which was pretty darn good actually, I mean I was really blown away by how this gun performed, but this group here is a little more reflective of the performance I was getting that day.

This is about a one and a half inch group so I would comfortably call this a one and a half inch gun, just a little over one MOA zone.

Not bad really, I was astonished.

So again that safety really comes in handy, if you see a threat or a target or an animal that you’re hunting if you’re hunting with a Galil, I don’t see why you couldn’t or wouldn’t.

But on a traditional AK you guys know how it is, you gotta kind of reach over to the side and bring the dust cover down.

Well that doesn’t take five seconds or something.

It’s definitely not as easy as just bringing it up and the clicking the safety of at the same time.

Now you still have the option to come around to the right side and bring it down off safe if you’d like to.

(safe clicks) but I really don’t know why you would unless you’re of left handed.

(gun firing) It’s remarkably slower when you have to come around on the other side.

(fires gun) Well this isn’t as crazy in the AR15 selector, it’s pretty close and I’m sure with some training you could get to that point.

(fires successive shots) (cocks gun) Let’s try some offence shots at 100 meters.

(fires successive shots) It’s almost not even fair, the sights on this thing are so great (laughs) I’m having a lot of fun with this thing.

A lot better than Tronian Manet sights on an AKM.

(safe clicks off) So I figured why not bring it back to about 120, 130 meters but I am crouching.

(fires shots) Now it’s time to take it back to 300 meters with iron sights this is always my favorite part of any of any rifle test.

I really like trying and seeing how accurate a rifle can be using the irons at 300 meters.

I knew the Galil would be probably better than a gun with Tronian Manet sights like an AKM but I really didn’t know to what extent and I was pleasantly surprised.

This gun seriously blew my mind, it was not only very reliable that’s blown too much the test, but I could could make this this thing dance.

I only missed a couple rounds, I really wasted more ammunition back here than I should have just because I kept shooting it because I was having so much fun.

(fires shots slowly) (fires successive shots) (fires rapid shots) Now we’re just kinda to the reliability portion of the test where I’m just blowing through ammo for the sake of blowing through ammo.

Generally that’s pretty uneventful unless the gun sucks which this one does not.

Really, it was pretty uneventful, I was just dumping magazine after magazine, the gun was getting very very hot.

I eventually put a glove on my left hand but wasn’t that point yet.

This did keep my trigger finger working, that’s for sure, and really trying to work that trigger as fast as possible was actually kind of interesting.

The trigger pull is probably about six pounds which is quite nice making it very easy to make follow up shots and the more I shot it, the better I got as you can see with me taming it pretty well but then all of a sudden this happened (cocks gun) (fires rapid successive shots) (gun clicks) One malfunction! Alright, one malfunction guys, and it’s a legitimate dead.

We have a very solid primer strike that indicates to me that it was the ammunition rather than the gun.

At this point I had 10 magazines left and I just wanted to blow through all the ammunition as fast as I could.

I had the glove in my left hand so I didn’t basically burn myself.

Despite the rail covers being there it’s still very very hot.

However it did not melt the covers on the gun, which was pretty cool.

(rapid shots) I do wish this gun was full out, that would be incredibly rad, but it’s not.

Last mag! (cocks gun) (fires rapid shots) (exhales) So 27 magazines later, 810 rounds fired and we have one malfunction that was most likely due to ammo based on the very solid primer hit, it failed to ignite.

That’s pretty damn reliable! I didn’t clean this gun or disassemble it at all during this day and I got it extremely hot, yet it kept on ticking! Honestly this is the gun that I think IWY needed to release a long time ago.

The Tavor is fine for some people but some people don’t like bull pups.

I like them but the Tavor is just not for me.

This gun on the other hand I strongly believe is the best AK variant money can buy.

With a street price right now of 16 or 1700 dollars the value is there.

While that is expensive, it’s the best you can buy.

It has all the features of not just an AK that I want, but of a semi-automatic rifle that I want.

That’s a no brainer for me and when a 223 version comes out, I’ll most likely be buying that one as well.

This gun gets an absolute five star review from me.

This review was a lot of fun, it’s not often that I go out and I really just have a great day and I drive home from the rain with a big smile on my face, but I did this day! Thanks for watching guys, big thanks to Venture Munitions, we hope to see you next time.

(fires shots)



Alex C.

Alex is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and Director of TFBTV.


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  • Anon

    Inb4 certain commenters who should just have the bridge crash down on them already.

    • Tritro29

      You’re cute.

      • Anon

        Ah, there’s the troll.

        • Tritro29

          Subject is on an Israeli weapon, your post is about me… and I’m the troll. Ok. I guess we all learn to live with herpes at some point.

        • Anon

          Oh, and nice edit.

          • Tritro29

            I had typed a whole separate answer, then I added into your reply so you could actually feel important. Btw Alex as usual was a bit liberal with his explanations, since there at least 4 different rifles upcoming that fire the 7.62×39 (at least) that aren’t AKM’s or AK’s for that matter. Like Sig Xi, Beretta x160, Bren 806 and the Russian twin-brothers, just to name a few.

      • Sermon 7.62

        This kid has like 5-6 accounts here, a classic troll. Ignore him.

        • Anon

          Maybe you’re the guy with multiple accounts?

          • Sermon 7.62

            Look, kid. You are not registered, right? You tracked my response to another man’s comment in a post that is 3 days old. How? You must be sitting here all day, scrolling through articles, reading all comments, again and again. That’s sick.

          • Anon

            You’re on every other article, so what’s your point? And it is rather suspicious how you showed up almost immediately after Rossanau or whatever that guy’s name is disappeared, and you act just like him.

          • Sermon 7.62

            See, no answer. How could a kid that has no account here track me? You are a troll, kid.

          • Anon

            My answer was that you’re not exactly a ghost on this blog and you got here rather recently, so how would it be in any way difficult to “track you” without multiple accounts?

          • Sermon 7.62

            You found a comment that I posted in response to another comment in a minute, on a topic that has been dead for a long time. Not having a registered account, this could be possible by means of sitting here all the time, reading old threads, checking for updates and I don’t think that even a little sicko has enough patience to do this.

            You are using more than one comp, more than one account, to not get exposed too much here in front of the people, because this behaviour is not normal. You understand that. But can’t help it.

          • Anon

            I’m autistic, believe me, I can have a lot of patience when I put my mind to something.

          • SP mclaughlin

            go back
            to /pol/ or /k/

          • Anon

            I’m being serious, I actually am autistic, of the “high-functioning” variety.

          • Anon

            Oh, and if it makes you feel better, I’m going to start commenting under an account by the name of “AC97” and dumping the whole “Anon” thing. Happy?

  • caleb

    Meh, I’d rather have a WASR.

    • Anon

      Or two.

    • Richard

      There is a significant quality difference between the wasr and the galil ace.

      • caleb

        Cold hammer forged barrel. Com block tooling. No frills. No gimmicks. Reasonable price. Like i said, I’ll take the WASR. You can keep this fugly contraption, and all its solutions to those problems no one had.

        • MasterBlaster

          WASRs are cheap garbage even compared to Bulgarian and Russian AKs. Crooked sights, out of spec trunions, and terrible rivets, etc. A WASR isn’t even worthy to be compared to the Galil.

          • caleb

            BS. If they were the same price, I’d still take the WASR.

          • MasterBlaster

            Ha and I wouldn’t take a WASR if you handed it to me for free. It would be an insult to all my other guns.

          • BrandonAKsALot

            The problem is, Century has imported/made too many Romanian rifles and it’s confusing. The WASR 10 had occasional problems with mag wobble (due to CAI) and canted sights, but that’s on most AK’s to be honest. The GP1975 was Romanian also, but built on a US receiver and barrel by Century and they were garbage. Even when WASR’s were the reject parts from Cugir, they were still totally acceptable and worked fine and to be honest, I do not like Romanian production anything, but I still think the WASR is an excellent variant.

          • Sermon 7.62

            And do not forget that WASR is not AK but a hunting rifle based on AK, and that is not a Romanian but a local Merican importer responsible for conversion. For canted sights and wobbling mags, blame it on them.

        • Richard

          I never said that the wasr was bad. I have handled a few wasrs and a galil ace and the difference is notable. Is it worth roughly $1000 difference? I don’t know, I don’t own either one.

    • Pete Sheppard

      Yep. The ACE looks like a ‘nice to have’, but I am totally satisfied with my WASR 10. There were problems (mainly due to poor work & QC by the importer, Century Arms), but recently they have been pretty much bug-free and stone reliable. In the current climate, they are considered the best AK value. You can pay more for features and finish, but for a solid shooter, they are great

      • Sermon 7.62

        I heard that there are places like Two Rivers Arms, Rifle Dynamics and Legion. You can send a WASR to them and make a nice AK out of it for $500 or so.

        • Pete Sheppard

          Thanks for the suggestions; Rifle Dynamics is indeed a ‘name’ in the AK community, but I haven’t heard of the other two–no doubt there are other quality AK ‘smiths who’s names haven’t gotten around. As it turns out, I am very happy with my rifle as is. πŸ™‚

  • Sermon 7.62

    Just stop calling it AK. This is AK:

    • Tritro29

      Purports to show an AK, shows and Alexandrov gun. Ok. I don’t know If I should laugh or lament. Anyway, the ACE is as much (I’d say more IMO) an AK as this.

      • Sermon 7.62

        AK is a brand, man. It’s aestetics and character. It is a certain kind of elegance. Ruggedness and grace combined.

        That thing in the post is not AK.

        • Anon

          Okay, on a serious note, what is it with you and your AK elitism?

          • Sermon 7.62

            That’s a serious note.

        • Tritro29

          Ak is indeed a brand for marketing purposes. But this rifle differs extremely from the Ak design. To the point it’s designer isn’t Kalashnikov. It’s a different gun, with a different action and cleaning and caring process. That’s all.

          • Sermon 7.62

            That’s all? I don’t think so.

          • Tritro29

            What is your point of doubt? The initial Banana magazine wasn’t invented by Kalashnikov but came from Korobov’s rifle and was forced because of the M43 round, the locking mechanism of the mag was taken straight out of Bulkin’s rifle, so a big part of the charisma of the AK isn’t due to Mikhail. Then the stock too was lifted from the Bulkin. And finally they ditched the Korobov mag for Korovin’s one with the “Bulkin tab”. Whole layout of the AK is a mix of Soviet designers if you want to talk about it. Alexandrov’s rifle has more moving parts and more sensitive areas that suffer from FOI. That’s also why the rifle while functional and reliable couldn’t exactly advance in the Abakan last stage and failed to move once again for Ratnik. You should drop this argument. It’s made by the zavod that makes AK’s, it’s not exactly an AK.

          • Sermon 7.62

            There is no argument. You just don’t understand me.

          • Tritro29

            Are you a woman? If so you might actually be right. Otherwise, I explained myself quite well. If you want to show an AK, show a damn AK, there are about 100+ millions out there.

          • Sermon 7.62

            It’s not that I don’t get it. You are of engineer kind. But I am not.

          • iksnilol

            So in your warped mind if it looks like an AK should it is by default an AK? If it is an actual AK mechanism (that actually has pretty decent compatibility with original AK) but it doesn’t look like an AK “should” then it isn’t an AK?

          • Sermon 7.62

            Scientists have bred a controversial featherless chicken which they say is faster growing. The birds, created at the Hebrew University in Israel, will not need to be plucked, saving money in processing plants.

            Professor Avigdor Cahaner, who led the project, told the BBC: “This is not a genetically modified chicken – it comes from a natural breed whose characteristics have been known for 50 years. It’s a normal chicken except for the fact it has no feathers.”

          • iksnilol

            Your point being?

          • Sermon 7.62

            I don’t like idiots.

          • iksnilol

            You started to ramble on about chickens without feathers. Sure, they still are chickens even if they have no feathers because genetics and compatibility.

            Still, your point was?

          • Sermon 7.62

            Israeli chickens, Israeli AKs. I see a pattern here.

          • iksnilol

            I don’t.

            And I am sober, so this is some really scatterbrained logic. And I don’t even like Israel.

          • Sermon 7.62

            You should perhaps smoke some then.

          • Anon

            Huh, I guess you’re not an alternate account of Tritro29’s.

          • Tritro29

            Slow clap…well you took your time, but you finally managed to get that point.

          • Anon

            Sorry about that assumption.

          • Tritro29

            well one down, about a gazillion to go…

          • Giolli Joker

            Unless he’s wildly bipolar. πŸ™‚

          • guest

            Smarta**, Kalashnikov designed NONE of his rifles alone (read about AB-46). Kalashnikov made ONE (ONE!!!!) firearm entire by himself which was not a rifle by the way, which got hime some days in the brig.
            The rest of rifles branded “AK” are not made by Mikhail, and the ones launched recently have neither been designed by him from beyond the grave not do they share a lot with his original previous designs. Oh and by the way there is no factory in whole of Russia that has the “Kalashnikov” name and that produces firearms, FYI.

            Still AK rifles are AK rifles, and that is a brand name that they the designers chose to use.
            So AK is AK the rest is not, that simple.

          • Yeah, you probably believe the AK was invented in Izhevsk, right?

          • Tritro29

            It’s that guy…he goes on to rant about how I don’t know about the “AB-46” while I go in length explaining how much was taken cosmetically (but not only) from the Bulkin, to finalize the AK design. Wikipedia warriors unite.

          • I think some modest simplifications were taken from the AB-46, like the unified piston and carrier, but I agree that the extent to which the AK-47 owes the AB-46 is overstated. I think that comes from people paying more attention to line-item type details (e.g., “long stroke gas piston”) than the actual designs themselves.

            Also, there is definitely an agenda out there to try to “prove” that a Slavic/Communist untermenschen or whatever couldn’t possibly design anything successful on their own.

          • Sermon 7.62

            Sure, man.

            Hugo Schmeisser designed AK. He was taken to Gulag, and there he made it. It had a charging handle on the left side, thumb fire selector, peep sights and Tapco trigger. But commies didn’t appreciate all these innovations, and he had to change it. Thanks to the Israelis, at last, that crude old Russian beast has turned into a decent rifle.

            Hurrah!

          • Sermon 7.62

            He meant that it doesn’t matter if the author of the design is Kalashnikov or not.

          • Sermon 7.62

            That’s right. And the rifle in question is called AK109.

  • Taylor Bosch

    I love the obligatory “I don’t like the Tavor, BUT it is okay.” Tavor fanboys aren’t that scary, Alex!

    That said, the Galil is looking like a 7.62×39 that I would actually buy.

  • Tyler Shaw

    Love it, looks great and would love to have one. I do have trouble justifying an almost 3x cost increase over an AK of which I already own. I justified the Tavor expense due to bull pup design and features. Maybe someday!

  • The accuracy was quite good (and arguably better than what the tests are showing for the X95, which is bizarre.) Were you using just regular steel case 7.62×39?

  • kingghidorah

    Hopin’ CDNN will be blowing them out next spring for something like $999

    • Richard

      I doubt that anyone will sell them for that price, but if they did I would jump on one fast.

  • vwVwwVwv

    # Alex C.
    if i may ask, how tall are you, the guns look on your videos smaller than
    on the israeli videos. israelis are not allways the tallest.
    apreciate your work.

    take care of your second amendment, if you loose it to hillery you’ll never get it bac.
    in germany once we had similar gunlaws, we lost them temporary
    cuz of the terror in the 70’s, we will never get the rights bac
    nothing more permanent than temporary
    government laws. πŸ™

    • tts

      Without the HoR Hillary can’t do a thing about making large changes to the gun regs much less modifying the 2nd Amendment which would be very hard to do even with control of both houses of Congress and the Presidency.

      The Dems can’t get the HoR without something insane like +10 vote advantage thanks to the gerrymandering efforts by REDMAP and Chris Jankowski. Right now Hillary is polling with “only” a +7-8 advantage (+7-8 is actually quite large, especially for modern elections where the populace is highly polarized politically speaking) among likely voters. So they can probably get the Senate (allows appointments) but can make any laws (which is what the HoR is needed for).

      The thing is the Dems will almost certainly lose the Senate in 2018 thanks to typical low Dem voter turnout in mid-term elections & they’ll have more vulnerable seats up for election than the Republicans. Its 2020 and afterwards that maybe the get a shot at redistricting (redistricting is done very 10yr or if voted for by Congress but that requires a supermajority in both houses to pull off right now which is impossible for D’s or R’s, so since the last Census was in 2010 the next is 2020) as well as controlling both houses of Congress. And its only a shot at this point. Its not at all written in stone.

      The REDMAP guys believe that the Dems won’t have a high likelihood to be able to break the gerrymander they pulled off in 2010 until the late 2020’s. If REDMAP hadn’t gerrymandered things up real good then the Dems would’ve likely actually had control of Congress in 2014 or 2012 since there were more Dem voters than Republican voters even back then BTW.

      • vwVwwVwv

        i think i got you, after reading it some 4 times, and reserching what HoR is.
        someon told me that if she can install enough suprem curt justices
        she culd abolish somehow parts of the 2 amendmen.

        it makes me feel beter that she cant.
        thank you for the effort and
        the insight i got with
        your effort. πŸ˜‰

        • tts

          Sorry yeah I use acronyms sometimes. HoR=House of Representatives which is the ‘lower’ house of the US Congress. Don’t read too much into it being called the ‘lower’ house though which as I understand has a certain connotation in some govt.’s that have Parliamentary systems.

          And yeah she (or rather judges she appoints, the Senate does appointments) can’t amend the constitution through the SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the US). The SCOTUS can reinterpret (legally they set precedent for all the courts in the US) what exactly the Constitution is supposed to mean exactly but that is a whole other can of worms and still wouldn’t result in the 2nd Amendment being eliminated or changed per se. I wouldn’t expect anything too dramatic to happen with gun related rulings at this point since the court is generally pretty big on precedent. Precedent can be overturned but it doesn’t happen lightly.

          Realistically Clinton will probably be able to fill the vacant seat and Ginsburg will retire soon too so she’ll be able to make at least 2 appointments to the SCOTUS. Thomas has hinted on and off that he is getting tired of being on the SCOTUS and some of the other conservative judges are also getting fairly old too. Its quite possible Hillary will get to make 3-4 SCOTUS appointments in her 1st term though the chances aren’t great of that happening. If she wins a 2nd term (which seems highly likely right now) then its a very good chance she’ll get to do those other 1-2 appointments.

          That will probably put a fairly liberal tilt on the SCOTUS for several decades at least since its expected that she would pick fairly young judges. And the job is a lifetime appointment.

          • vwVwwVwv

            you know, i like guns and reading abot the possibilitis in th US
            is a kind of good feeling, it wuld be sad if
            somhow this wuld
            disapear.

            thanks a lot for all the informations.

          • tts

            Well thanks for bothering to read them!

          • jt

            Interesting analysis. Unfortunately, I think you are very wrong on Clinton’s future plans for the 2nd Amendment. Never under estimate the stubbornness and stupidity of liberals. If you want to see the liberal future for the 2nd amendment look at California. Once Clinton has stacked SCOTUS, they will start chipping away at the 2nd Amendment until it is gutted. Precedent on the 2nd Amendment does not mean a damn thing to liberal judges.

            “If she wins a 2nd term (which seems highly likely right now) then its a very good chance she’ll get to do those other 1-2 appointments.” So it seem highly likely right now that she wins a 2nd term? Your wasting your time making comments. You should head to Las Vegas immediately with your ability to predict the future.
            Sarcasm aside, usually a POTUS does win a 2nd term. Once one of these scumbags gets elected, it is very difficult to get them out of office no matter how awful they perform. I disagree with you considering the current situation. I don’t think either one has a chance at a 2nd term because they are both such miserable candidates and grossly unpopular. Getting elected and governing is probably going to make them even more unpopular.

          • tts

            If you think I’m wrong then fair enough, it is essentially a prediction I’m making though I would say that it is one based on what the expert pollers like Silver and Wang are putting out right now. I think you’re basis for why I’m wrong is kind’ve weak though. “Liberals being dumb and determined” is just a vague platitude after all.

            Right now the best R candidates its expected she’ll being going up against are possibly Ryan but more likely Cruz in a 2nd term election. Both of them poll well with R’s and can win state seats but neither can win a general election like the Presidency. Hillary is indeed highly unpopular but you have to consider who she is going up against in any election. Remember lots of people hated Obama too but he still got a 2nd term.

          • jt

            I said liberals are stubborn (not determined) and stupid in reference to their assault on the 2nd amendment, not your election predictions. I live in California and there is nothing weak or vague about “Liberals being dumb and determined”.

            As to your election predictions, my point was that 4 years is an eternity in politics and there is no such thing as “highly likely” with the current candidates for POTUS. The entire point of my second paragraph is that Hillary and Trump are lousy politicians. I don’t like Obama, but he is a far better politician and was a superior candidate for POTUS than Hillary or Trump.

            My real problem was with your original comments on how Hillary and her SCOTUS appointments will have little impact on the 2nd Amendment. In my opinion, you couldn’t be more wrong. Hillary and her liberal SCOTUS appointment will gut the 2nd amendment!!! The liberals in California and other states have been passing a series of laws to render the 2nd Amendment useless. Hillary and her SCOTUS appointments will not let precedent stand in the way. The idea that the 2nd Amendment is in little danger with President Hillary is preposterous.

          • tts

            So your 1st paragraph it seems like you’re mostly quibbling over semantics (stupid/dumb and determined/stubborn is largely a difference without distinction too) and doubling down on vague platitudes.

            You have to essentially give examples of existing cases working their way through the system that a left leaning SCOTUS could rule on that they could use to somehow “gut” (which couldn’t happen but whatever) the 2nd Amendment that are also largely compliant with existing precedent. Otherwise its just fearmongering. Much like how Obama was supposed to have already taken all our guns by now. I have no patience for that sort of thing anymore.

            4yr isn’t that big of a deal in politics anymore because the electorate is so polarized (making their voting patterns fairly predictable), the gerrymander in Congress is so thorough (essentially guarantees Repub control of HoR until at least 2020), and because most of the people who have a realistic chance at the Presidency or as candidates for election are fairly well known and are unlikely to change over that time frame. Its after 2020 that things become much more uncertain.

          • jt

            You still don’t get it. My first paragraph referred to the 2nd Amendment. The semantics were due to the fact that you quoted me incorrectly. The wording for a quote should be verbatim. I thought you would get the point. My mistake.

            The difference between Obama and a potential Clinton Presidency is the chance to change the balance of SCOTUS.. I thought I made that clear in the last paragraph of my previous response. In my opinion, Hillary’s SCOTUS appointments will totally ignore precedent. You can place your faith in precedent. I will not. We agree to disagree.

            As far as your last paragraph, we are not going to agree on much. I do agree that the electorate is polarized. ” Because most of the people who have a realistic chance at the Presidency or as candidates for election are fairly well known and are unlikely to change over that time frame.” So no chance of another Obama(2008) or Trump(2016)? Again, I think we can agree to disagree.

            The Democratic Party and some Republicans want to destroy the 2nd Amendment. You may think this is “fearmongering”? I disagree. As I have already mentioned, just look at what California and New York Democrats are doing to the 2nd Amendment in those states. My contention is that Hillary is just as dangerous to the 2nd Amendment and will “gut” the 2nd Amendment through SCOTUS if she gets the chance. I see very little difference between Hillary Clinton, Charles Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, and Andrew Cuomo on the 2nd Amendment.

            Do you think “assault weapon bans”, limiting gun purchases to 1 per month, magazine restrictions(10 or less)., a license to buy ammunition, and a 10 day waiting period are “reasonable restrictions” on the 2nd Amendment?

          • tts

            Verbatim quotes are all well and good in a professional setting but this isn’t one + what I posted was functionally the same as what you said. At that point it doesn’t matter.

            That that balance would shift to liberal majority doesn’t mean they can “gut” the 2nd Amendment. The SCOTUS doesn’t pass assault weapon bans or legislate magazine limits, etc. That is Congress of which the HoR is part of and which the R’s have control over and will continue to hold control over thanks the gerrymander which you seem to not be addressing at all in your post.

            Obama and Trump were statistical outliers. There is a chance of such a thing but its so small its not worth talking about in a serious fashion.

            The fearmongering I’m talking about is claims regarding the SCOTUS “gutting” the 2nd Amendment. Keep things in context! That there are some congressmen on either side who want to really ban guns doesn’t really much matter since there is no realistic way they can do so on a national scale.

          • jt

            Do you know the definition of a quote? All quotes should be verbatim, always. .A quote that is not verbatim is not a quote! Close doesn’t get it done and you weren’t close.. The fact that you can’t admit you made a mistake makes you a “stubborn” ass. Notice I said “stubborn” and not “determined” ass.

            I addressed SCOTUS only because that is where I think the attempts to gut the 2nd Amendment will occur. My contention is that a liberal SCOTUS will find things like waiting periods and/or magazine restrictions for example, “reasonable” restrictions. In California, the CRPA and other pro 2nd Amendment organizations have cases in the Federal Courts challenging all of these “reasonable” restrictions. Cases from both pro and anti 2nd Amendments organizations will be heard before SCOTUS. A Hillary stacked liberal SCOTUS will find these and other restrictions as “reasonable”.

            “Obama and Trump were statistical outliers.” You need a course in statistics. You honestly think that the last 3 Presidential election cycles have produced 2 ” statistical outliers”. You don’t know what the term statistical outlier means. Your third paragraph is entirely drivel.

            Now we come to the main reason I bothered responding to you in the beginning. I noticed you did not reply to my last paragraph about various gun control issues. The vast majority of people reading and commenting on this web site would find the gun control measures I listed as stupid, asinine, useless, and unconstitutional. I do and I live in a state with these moronic “reasonable” restrictions. You had the opportunity to say you were opposed to those “reasonable” restrictions The fact that you avoided answering tells me you are just another deceitful liberal troll. The don’t worry talk about Hillary and your pathetic political analysis are simply liberal propaganda. You are not fooling anyone.

            I will no longer waste my time addressing your crap. I have argued with liberals long enough to know that they never admit to failure. Go to the Huffington Post with your bulls%#t. Adios jackass.
            To everyone reading this, please vote! I encourage all citizens to vote. Your vote is important.

          • tts

            Its a “mistake” (those are scare quotes BTW) that doesn’t matter in the least. There is no reasonable way to resort to name calling and getting mad over that sort of thing.

            Yes you keep saying you think the SCOTUS can gut the 2nd Amendment but you’re not giving realistic examples of how that can happen. And no upholding mag restrictions and waiting periods aren’t examples of the 2nd Amendment getting gutted. An example of the 2nd Amendment being gutted were if somehow the court ruled it was illegal for citizens to own guns, or certain types of already legal guns (ie. handguns) period. I don’t see how that is possible legally speaking.

            3 elections cycles? No, just 2. Obama was an outlier in 2008. In 2012 he was the incumbent and favored to win. Trump is this cycles’ outlier. He also isn’t likely to win.

            My sentance from my previous reply: The fearmongering I’m talking about is claims regarding the SCOTUS “gutting” the 2nd Amendment. Keep things in context! was my reply to your last paragraph. The SCOTUS, which is what we were discussing, is a federal institution which is totally different from state govt. which Hillary will have little to no effect on.

        • AirborneSoldier

          She needs neither. Admin law now has the full weight of law passes by elected reps. She can simply do whatever she wants through ATF. Who will seriously oppose her? Look at the past 8 years for your answer.

          • vwVwwVwv

            it is complicated for me to understand all US laws and which one is more
            important, it is also not up to me, i am most time in germany or
            in israel. i have acses to firearms a sportshooter but
            i tell you one thing, if the birocracy gets
            your gun laws, you will never
            get them back again.
            belive me.

            by the way, how you vote a woman in to a leading position?
            you dont. (see merkel, she killed europe, we are finished.)

    • I am 193cm in height, so most guns were not designed with me in mind.

      • vwVwwVwv

        thanks for the answer.
        now i understand how they literaly are shrinking in your hands.
        now i understand your grip technik beter.
        i apreciate your work, its
        great to watch.
        all the best, i wait for the next videos, they are adicting, cant get the
        guns in europe so watching them is the maximum.

      • iksnilol

        You are slightly taller than me.

        I think I dislike you now.

        *angry tall stare*

  • (mumbles)

    Excellent and comprehensive review! This looks like a magnificently impressive rifle; they really do seem to have elevated the AK platform to its zenith here, with every problem the rugged old beast has had all along finally accounted for and fixed.

    • Sermon 7.62

      Yes. It has a taste of a kosher steak.

  • FarmerB

    And which version is this? Galil ACE 23 in 7.62×39 with 16″ barrel?

    • Anon

      Galil ACE 32 in 7.62×39 with a 16 inch barrel I believe is the variant.

  • BrandonAKsALot

    For me this offers the less appealing of all worlds. It’s too far from an AK and original Galil and too expensive. The Sam7 gives you the milled receiver and smooth action and is much less than the ACE while retaining the AK qualities even though it is sort of a mutt in a sense. The Ace doesn’t offer anything above current production high end semi-autos either in my opinion. I’d rather my SCAR, Bren, or similar. Just my two cents, but I just can’t see the appeal here for the price. If it were more competitive to Arsenal’s price range, it would make more sense, but not for $1600.

    Also, I cannot express my distaste for that stock.

    • Tritro29

      Depends what you’re looking for. To me indeed the ACE at 1.6K dollars in the way it is now is basic theft. The rifle has almost nothing ground breaking from other available offers, is yet somewhat untested (we don’t know how the soft rubber parts are going to hold on, how the lower Polymer parts are going to hold on) is still a right hand shooter (not possible to have a left side ejection and swap) and they have been as cheap as to simply lift of the FNC in order to “seal” the gun, because, by eliminating the right hand lever they were forced to make another permanent ingress point on the left side on the weapon.

      I’d say that this rifle has twice more chance to fail the mud test than a classic AK, because they’ve carved the bolt carrier as to create a case deflector “built” in it, while also helping to accumulate dirt and stuff within that cavity which in return goes straight to the innards of the rifle. unlike the classic AK which is flat and scrapes somewhat the sticking dirt on the dust cover edge. There’s another problem sealing wise, which is now in the left side of the reciever as well. The Mud test again would put dirt around the lever which is going to be scraped by the articulated seal right into the space. There too you could have a problem.

      This would need testing from our friends @InRangeTV.

      • Pete Sheppard

        There are also requests for Rob Ski (AK Owners’ Union) to get one for a 5k endurance test. It’s rather far down his list though, if he does it at all.

        • Tritro29

          Didn’t he do a tease with the ACE pistol?

      • BrandonAKsALot

        Time will tell. I just feel like if you’re going to update the AK, this is not the best way to do it. The Sig 550 series is more on track with the receiver oriented opposite from the AK. You can get more convenient and solid optics mounting which is probably one of the biggest detractions from the Kalashnikov designs. I like side mounts, but they can be inconvenient in many respects.

    • David Harmon

      I’d rather have a full .308 rifle like you. AR-10 variant or something would even be fine for me.

  • guest

    best AK rifles are actual AK rifles and not knock-offs, same goes for pistols where Glock is king and every other copy/clone is made by a desperate pleb who does not have even a shred of creative thought

    • Says someone who has obviously never handled a real Galil or Valmet. *rolleyes*

      • Tritro29

        I think this is our “friend” from the other side…and now that you talk about the Valmet, check how the dust cover has been bulged to accommodate the seat of the rear sight.

      • guest

        vei iz meer! Is it tribe first and firearms second here? If so, you are right. If not, then no.

        • Sermon 7.62

          If it wasn’t made in Israel it wouldn’t have received such a warm review from the poster. That’s for sure.

          • AC97

            Or is that just what you tell yourself to help you sleep at night?

        • I have a huge soft spot in my heart for the original, unadulterated AK design. In fact, if you ask William over at The Wound Channel, he’ll probably tell you that I am an “apologist” for the AK.

          But that doesn’t change the fact that the Galil and Valmet are substantial improvements over the original models.

          • guest

            Nonwithstanding whatever soft spots, just admit that you are like some odd kid at school that wants to be special for the purpose of being special, because it seems to be a running theme here on TFB to come with some absurd claim and just grab the popcorn and wait for the reactions. Either that or just as I wrote in the previous message.

          • Alternate explanation: You are just wrong.

  • Slim934

    I’ll just take a DDI AK with a set of Tech Sights.

    • VF 1777

      Hard to argue with this approach (except I’d probably skip the Tech sights and go with an Ultimak and Micro Red Dot with 50k+ hours battery life). Then dump the rest into ammo and mags …oh, and a Krebs enhanced safety lever too…and maybe a FH or brake and an ALG trigger, BFG sling – and it’d be pretty suped up.

  • borekfk

    Someone needs to give her an ACE redesign.

    • Anonymoose

      Just keep your soda bottles away from her.

  • Al Wise

    I carried a Galil SAR while in the IDF in Southern Lebanon. It was immensely comforting to have a rifle that reliable. To know it was going to go bang when you really needed it. Out to 200 meters, it was also very accurate. Those who don’t believe a 13″ barrel with an AK-style action can be accurate have never really trained with one. Take the time with it, it gets the job done. I would imagine anyone looking for the same in a more modern rifle would be pleased with this one, though I would stick with 5.56. It’s heavy enough as it is without those mags and ammo weight.

    • Heretical Politik

      I’d pay this for an original style galil in 5.56 in a heartbeat.

      • Anonymoose

        You’re going to pay twice this for an original Galil…

        • Maybe even triple. Very few factory-original Galil SBRs were imported, since the tax stamp was the same as a full-on machinegun. Pretty much every Galil SBR out there is a parts kit build. (Which is not to say they’re bad… the Galil imports had their own oddities compared to the real military versions.)

    • iksnilol

      200 meters, that’s kinda weaksauce… especially with 5.56

      Is that at least with irons?

  • Rob

    Hey Alex,

    You’ll help your 300 yard groups if you don’t wrap that trigger finger around the trigger. Pad of the last joint only. πŸ˜‰

    • iksnilol

      That doesn’t like a good technique. Try using the part between the two last digits of your trigger finger.

  • Sermon 7.62

    So, some people feel like that thing is better than the classic, like Arsenal AR? This must be the result of mind control programs.

    • AC97

      “If someone has different preferences than me, they must be brainwashed!”.

      Get over it, it’s fine to prefer something over the AK.

      • Sermon 7.62

        Yes, it’s like these, Degenerate Art paintings. Such rhetoric might be used for self-consolation.

        • andrey kireev

          People can have their own opinions, you know. For some reason you sound like one of those people back from my home country, who sound like a broken record, saying how AK/AKM is the best thing in the world and everything else is garbage. The only reason why Russians haven’t replaced the AKM/AK-74 platform, is because they’ve got no money to rearm the entire military.

          • Sermon 7.62

            People can have opinions and I cannot? Am I talking about some particular thing here or all things else? You sound like a broken record, not me.

          • ReadyorNot

            It’s because Sermon is a Russian Web Brigade troll.

  • YZAS

    Hmmm, man i dont know Alex. Best AK variant …’you can buy’?
    (Well, I guess that does rule out the Krebs AC-15 mod2 full rail, cause you can’t actually buy one of those…) But thats still a pretty subjective statement. I think you might still have the ‘new rifle giddies’ a bit there bud πŸ™‚ But i can dig it, it looks pretty solid all around. I guess i’m kinda used to a right side CH on an AK by now anyway, and a Krebs safety is damn near as fast as a thumb safety. Besides that I dont see anything that really blows my doors off. I’m not really worried about an extra half inch of accuracy ok an AK and that handguard is damn near as ugly as my sister in law. I use an optic on an AK anyway, so the irons arent a huge factor to me… But hell, it’s definitely up there at the top. I’m honestly not sure though i’d even trade it for my SAM7sf (with Krebs UFM rail and Aimpoint on a RS mount). That thing just soaks up the recoil and barely comes off target. And i damn sure would take the Krebs AC15 mod2 full rail over it. But who knows, maybe it would grow on me. I’d sure have to do something with that lousy handguard though!

  • CS

    The 3 Great AK Variants: Galil, Valmet, and the often overlooked SIG 550 series.

    • Anonymoose

      The real Swiss rifles, but not the 556s. Those are too spotty, especially whenever they come out with a new version.

      • AC97

        Sig Sauer USA has spotty QC in general, don’t they?

        • Midwest Marco

          I have a US made Sig 556xi Russian (7.62×39) that I bought about a year and a half ago. Probably put about 3K rounds thru it. Not one single problem. It’s become my favorite rifle. Just plain fun to shoot.

          • iksnilol

            SBR…. SBR it.

            Also, how do surplus steel mags and Bulgarian Circle 10 mags work in it?

        • No I wouldn’t say so

      • BrandonAKsALot

        The XI series seems to be better, but nothing compares to those original Swiss beauties.

        • Anonymoose

          Better now, maybe? First couple iterations of the XIs had teething issues. I don’t think MAC ever got his 556xiR to work, even after they replaced the original one.

    • gunsandrockets

      What, no love for the FNC?

      • Anonymoose

        FNC is pretty great, but the SG550 takes the cake.

      • tele

        FNC is not an AK

        • Anonymoose

          The FNC is an AK. It’s a long-stroke piston with a very similar bolt to the AK.

    • loop3q

      Nope. Norinco Type 56 is an improvement in every respect yet costs less than the original russian ak, wtf? Delta Force use them.
      Galil is just an inferior copy of the Valmet with higher price tag, but israeli marketing.

      • Hanzo

        That’s funny. All of it.

  • Anonymoose

    Still waiting on the .308 version and those extended forends from RS Regulate, and also on a replacement stock tube that takes standard milspec AR stocks.

  • 22winmag

    My $600 GLN-receiver Golani is staying with me until the bitter end and I’d put it up against *any* of these rifles.

  • gunsandrockets

    Does the ACE come in 6.5mm Grendel?

  • David Harmon

    I can’t stomach paying for the Galil a second time. My taxes already paid for it once…..

    • Sermon 7.62

      Best comment!

    • vwVwwVwv

      isn’t one galil enough for you?

    • Riot

      Didn’t your taxes pay to replace it?

      • David Harmon

        That too, so I paid twice already… I should get one for free then…

  • Pete Sheppard

    Nice review; 800+ rounds in one session is a fair test of reliability. It also was nice to see the rifle run with a variety of mags–wasn’t there at least one BHO mag in the pile?
    As an aid to clearing stoppages if nothing else, is there some way to incorporate a BHO feature in the rifle itself? On my WASR, I simply Dremeled a notch in the safety lever.

  • Michigan TrainingCounselor

    Muzzle “BRAKE” Muzzle BRAKE Muzzle Brake muzzle brake.
    If we don’t say it correctly, it will be a tragic break with our language.
    ~ Don McGaffey
    your NRA Master Training Counselor
    (and still loving my Mini-30)

  • vwVwwVwv

    http://i.imgur.com/ewZapQm.jpg

    since americans get their hands on AK’s they started look gorgeouse,
    no mater who produsec them.

    • andrey kireev

      is that even English ?

      • vwVwwVwv

        i do my best, sure german is not good for you, nor russian or hebrew. πŸ˜‰

        • Matt Taylor

          Epic response. Lol.

  • Minuteman

    Nice vid Alex, as always.

    A few things strike me about this rifle:

    1) Definitely needs a longer handguard, either keymod or mlok. (RS Regulate is working on that).
    2) Could do with a Lantac AK brake.
    3) I don’t see any QD sling mount options…
    4) Not a fan of the stock, agree with you on the M4 style assembly. Again, no QD sling mount option.

    I don’t think this gun will do that well on an already saturated AK market, and definitely not at IWI’s price point. DDI is the Galil ACE’s main competitor and they will start building Made in USA AK’s soon. Other than the occlusive action and maybe the sights, the ACE doesn’t bring anything significant to the table. Left side ch only vs ambi ch is a no brainer. I’m not an AK guy but I rather upgrade a DDI AK with a MFER, LINCH, Krebs rail systems, ALG trigger etc than buying a Galil ACE. On top of that, the Galil ACE is very proprietary, where as an AKM is not. DDI AK’s are in the same accuracy department. Just my $0.02 here as an AR-15 man.

    Keep up the good work!

  • Hanzo

    If you’ve never had a Galil, well …. you’ve never lived.

  • The_manBEar

    Dat nose weld

  • Jordan Mickelson

    +Alex C. I really liked the video but I am a little dumbfounded as to why you are doing your accuracy test from the back of a ranger and not from a rest. If you are going to do an accuracy test and shoot for groups, then you should have a more stable platform. I know you are looking for combat accuracy but it would be nice to know what ammo you are shooting and take as many variables out as you can if you are letting us know what the “gun” is really capable of.

  • CS

    The AK is’t the only gun to use 7.62×39. Just off the top of my head:

    Sig 556
    Ruger Mini-30
    SKS
    AR-15 variants (POF Puritan)
    And a number of bolt action rifles use the venerable AK cartridge.

    • pbla4024

      Sa vz. 58

  • snmp

    Galil ACE is produce in colombia by indumil and resal by IWI

  • Bal256

    I’m more of a fan of the classic style galil.

  • Leo

    It is best Galil ever, don’t mix it with AK.

  • Zebra Dun

    I’ve never handled or seen a Galil but I have handled, shot and carried a Valmet and in my opinion (everybody has one I know) these are the best AK platform weapons.
    I have heard the East German AK’s are the ones rated as bets of the best.

  • JmosesB

    Banging steel at 300 with iron sights is never a waste of ammo! Thanks for a great video!

  • Douglas Hillyer

    Does anyone know if Croatian steel mags work in the Galil with no filing or modification. They will work in my N-PAP and CMMG Mutant but wont lock into my Wasr. I have a Galil on the way and am curious if these will fit.

  • JASON B

    Alex, what ammo were you using that you were getting those tight groups?