New FBI Glock Rumors Surface

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The new FBI Glock has been something of a mystery since the Austrian pistol was selected as the FBI’s next sidearm. Some photoshop generated renderings have been put together using the solicitation as a guide, while other Glock enthusiasts have carefully been combing through the requirements to determine what features may be included.

The 4th gen pistols have been the flagship line for Glock since their introduction in 2010 and have become a favorite of shooters all over the world. There is a growing sentiment that the Gen 4 is getting a bit long in the tooth and needs some refreshing. Good news everyone, there is a sign that a refresher is just around the corner. December of last year Glock, Inc. started the trademark registration process of the the GEN 5 name. Could this be Glock taking a forward-thinking approach to trademarks or are they planning a reveal at SHOT 2017?

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When it comes to the new FBI Glock, we are reasonably certain about the designation it will receive, the 17m and 19m. Reports coming from officers taking the training for the “M” series of Glocks have claimed the new guns will have some of the following features:

  • A new tougher finish
  • Changes in the rifling
  • Longer recoil spring assembly
  • Reinforced forward notch for the recoil spring assembly
  • A smoother trigger similar to the G42/43
  • Flared magwell
  • No finger grooved
  • Changes in the safety plunger
  • Ambidextrous slide release
  • Magazines may have an extended front lip
  • Magazine well cutout

The officers that were in the class have said that they believe that Glock has no plans to offer the M-series to civilian shooters since it is believed that the pistol was developed for the contracts alone. Without knowledge of the trademark registration, the take away from the class is that we should look to SHOT 17 for the introduction of a new model.

I for one hope we see a refresh of the Glock line come SHOT, but if not I want to get my hands on a 19m to compare it to a standard Gen 4. I imagine the new gun will shoot like a Glock, and the question remains as to how much of an improvement do the purported changes make?

Glock, if you are reading this. Gimmie.

Hat tip to Todd, Scott, and P&S



Patrick R

Patrick is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and works in the shooting sports industry. He is an avid recreational shooter and a verified gun nerd. With a lifelong passion for shooting, he has a love for all types of firearms, especially handguns and the AR-15 platform. Patrick may be contacted at tfbpatrick@gmail.com.

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Rob

    Why use a photos shop when you posted an actual picture a few hours before?

    • Patrick R. – Staff Writer

      Because this was written a few days ago.

  • T Ferguson

    Wait a sec…you post an article about the FBI model with the identical feature list and a picture of the actual gun. You then randomly mention that people have photoshopped pictures of the very gun you posted a real picture of, then say that the Gen 5 wont have anything to do with the FBI model, the photoshopped pictures, or the feature list at all?

    • Patrick R. – Staff Writer

      This was written a few days ago and scheduled to post. It just so happened to fall on the same day that the 17M photos surfaced.

  • Harry’s Holsters

    If glock does come out with a new gun I hope the new models are compatible with old holsters, magazines and sight. I also hope the Gen 5 is more than the M series.

    • Anonymoose

      Should be. The main change is the sight, and even the Timberwolf frames with their in-spec Pic rail fit most Glock holsters (or so I’m told).

      • Harry’s Holsters

        People also say a Glock 26/27 will fit in a Glock 17 or 19 holsters. It’ll fit but not properly. The baby glocks are over .1 inch taller and wider in some spots that are critical to the holster.

  • Machinegunnertim

    Why not just go with a different companies handgun that already has these features from the get go?

    • Anonymoose

      Because Glock undercut SIG.

      • Scouse

        Anonymoose
        How brilliant! That would have meant a massive savings, all ID would remain the same, Serial numbers. New barrel would beget a new main spring, and all new magazines, perfect.
        I think you should contact the Boss of the FBI with exactly this suggestion.
        Post notices every where. ANY AGENT WHO WISHES TO RETAIN HIS CURRENT ISSUE PISTOL, BUT CONVERT IT TO 9MM, CONTACT //////!

        • M&M’s

          Photoshopped

        • Anonymoose

          The real one doesn’t have forward cocking serrations. This is a shoop and they used a PWS or some other aftermarket slide for this “concept picture.”

          • Scouse

            Good! I had a friend in Canada, born in South Africa, sweaty hands, at home cocked slide from the front BANG! Has a bit missing from a finger.

          • Anonymoose

            My uncle took half the tip of his forefinger off in a woodworking accident.

      • M&M’s

        Sig failed the FBI trials.

        • Anonymoose

          RIP. ;_;7

    • Sam

      Yeah they could have gone with FN…

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      Glock probably quoted them $125/gun with 2 free replacements. No one else can match their pricing.

  • Disarmed in CA

    Obviously too dangerous for California.

    • Richard Lutz

      If it were not for California gun laws Gen3 production might have ceased.

      • Bronson

        Why do you say that? I read/ hear lots of people say that they hate Gen 4’s and prefer the Gen 3’s.

  • RickH

    Glock has been around for 30 years. I’ve been hoping for the last 20 that they would offer an alternate model with different ergos (grip, grip angle, trigger guard), I guess I’ll never see it in my lifetime.

    • El Mac

      Never happen.

    • Anonymoose

      Glock has been around for 53 years. They made plastic curtain rods (their most famous product in Europe), knives (Feldmesser-1978, used by Austrian and German special forces and lots of others), and shovels before they came up with the 17.

      • RickH

        The 30 years comment was in regard to the time the pistol was made available to the public.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      Why would they? They have 60%+ of the US LE market, a huge amount of the serious pistol shooting market, and they do it with 90% of their guns being one of 3 or 4 models that are small variations of the same design.

  • Ken

    Didn’t RTF2 start as an LE only offering before it got a cult following and became a limited release item?

  • Bill

    Really, does a gun introduced in 2010, and is only a minor variant of a 30-plus year design that by all measures has been successful, need a “refresh?”

    I don’t know what’s so special about the Special Agents of the FBI that they need other than a box stock SKU.

    • uisconfruzed

      They ‘need’ a less expensive version.
      Contracts go out to bid.

    • valorius

      they dont need any new guns at all.

      • Bill

        I’m inclined to agree with you. Each of the pistols I’ve been issued, or the ones I’ve purchased personally, would easily last a career plus. None have been significantly better than any of the others, with one exception, which was defective from the factory and had the ergonomics of a hand-held mixer.

    • I wonder at the cause of the “growing sentiment that the Gen 4 is getting a bit long in the tooth”. I think perhaps the mobile electronics industry has raised the expectation of some that everything needs to be upgraded annually.

      • JSIII

        Remember that thing called the 1911 that hasn’t really changed beyond some stippling and a change in the barrel nut system for like 50+ years? That thing? Yeah I hear ya sometimes don’t mess with a classic.

      • Bill

        Excellent point. My other vice is/are cameras: a digital camera from 2010 is considered positively medieval. The difference is that there are quantifiable advances in optics and electronics, versus removing finger grooves and changing finishes.

        Pesky youngsters: everything has to be the latest and greatest.

    • JSIII

      Glock was “forced” into making these modifications, paying for the R&D, changing molds, etc etc to meet the FBI contract…so why NOT take advantage and call the thing you already made for the FBI a “Gen 5” and sell ass tons of Glocks to fan boys and police agencies alike? It seems like a good business/marketing move.

      • Bill

        It’s absolutely a good business/marketing move. Any gun company would love to sell new guns to agencies every 6 months if they could come up with a sufficient con.

    • truthsayer

      Better still… disarm the FBI completely. After all, investigation doesn’t mean enforcement or faking crime lab results or ginning up retarded people, providing plans and materials to retarded people, busting the retarded people, and then patting themselves on the back for preventing “terrorism.”

  • Kelly Jackson

    Seems like most of these “features” are cost cutting measures for contract sales. In another article it indicates the barrel is button rifled.

    • Anonymoose

      Button rifling is good if you’re using unjacketed soft lead bullets. Otherwise polygonal rifling is superior. I would expect Gen5 and Gen4 barrels to be interchangeable, though.

  • gunsandrockets

    M? What does that stand for? Modified?

    • El Mac

      Modified.

    • iksnilol

      Modernizovanya

  • El Mac

    Trust me on this. The 17/19 M models WILL be offered to civilians after they get caught up on their backlogs…Glock knows how to make a buck even if their pistol is just ugly as crap.

    • J.T.

      Yep. Why pass up on a chance to sell a bunch of people guns they already own? I have a feeling they will release these as a Gen 5 without some of the cost cutting features next year at either the SHOT or NRA shows.

      • El Mac

        What cost cutting feature are you talking about?

        • J.T.

          The “changes in the rifling” is supposedly the use of less expensive standard rifling in the barrels as opposed to polygonal. A few bucks cheaper per gun over a lot of guns adds up to lots of money saved for law enforcement agencies.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      I fully agree. Glock breaks even on every gun sold to departments and agencies, but make hand over fist on the public market. They are masters of the public market.

  • maodeedee

    no finger grooves is a HUGE step forward. But Forward slide serrations, not so much……

    • El Mac

      There are NO forward slide serrations on the real M. You are looking at a photoshop. How I wish there were actual forward serrations…but sadly, none.

    • Sam

      Wait forward slide serrations are NOT a good thing? Explain…

      • Edeco

        I don’t know about maodeedee, but I don’t like them because I don’t use them, and they add cost and complicate the appearance. I don’t value the reduced weight since, you know, slide weight serves a function and if lightening were needed for correct weight there are other ways I’d prefer.

    • Wzrd

      With the finger grooves gone I might actually buy a 19. The 17 feels best in my hand, but i don’t want a full size. I didn’t want to buy a 19 & have to alter it just to feel comfortable. & I don’t even have large hands- but the grooves just don’t feel right. Binds on my middle finger up against the trigger guard. I get the argument of learn to shoot with the gun regardless of how it fits you, but I’m not military/LE who was issued a sidearm, so that argument doesn’t apply. So I’ll be waiting for the civilian M.

  • Jimney123

    These Glocks are so good you have to change everything about them before you tell everyone how much you love your Glock! Goodness, the ONLY reason they are using Glock is price point…otherwise they’d have a SIG/HK or some other high end model.

    • tenmillimeter

      I would buy Glock over SIG and HK at twice the price. I’ve tried them all and Glock performs the best for me. Take price into consideration and why would anyone pay more for equal or lesser performance?

      • Sunshine_Shooter

        Funny, that’s the same reasoning I used to buy my M&P. Equal performance, so why buy something that costs more?

        • tenmillimeter

          I personally didn’t care for the ergonomics of the MP, but the best weapon for each shooter is the one that works best for them 😉

        • Steve

          Because S&W customer service SUCKS! Bought an S&W revolver that had soft strikes (dimpled primers – no boom) sent it back. Was notified after 2-weeks that they couldn’t fix it (really??) and I would be getting a new revolver. Ok. Cool. Over 3 more months pass with no response to my inquiries or those of the retailer and finally the other revolver just showed up. Great, right? Nope. New revolver, same issue. Sent back again with request for refund. Five or six weeks later same revolver shows up, but this time it seems like they fixed it. So far no problems but the trust factor is gone. I never even heard from S&W and swore I’d never buy another S&W! It is just too bad that I’d already bought my GF a S&W Shield 9mm or she would’ve gotten a Sig 938 or GLOCK 43 instead.

      • valorius

        I own a Glock 19. It sits disassembled in an extra parts bin i have, collecting dust.

        I find glocks to be no more than average when compared to their peers. They also have what is easily the worst trigger of any modern service pistol. And then there’s the whole no safety thing.

        I wouldn’t accept a glock as a gift (the one i have was left to me by a deceased relative).

        • tenmillimeter

          Lucky for all of us we have options and get to use the weapon that works best for us 🙂

          • valorius

            Yep.

        • Alex @Sea

          Ever hear the the statement “This is my safety”

          • valorius

            As i said in another comment section, i knew a guy that used to say that all the time, til he shot himself in the face with his glock. Now he is silent as the grave.

          • Alex @Sea

            No object is fool proof. A golfball in a parking lot has probably been used by Mr Darwin to sanitize the gene pool at some time. Sorry for your friend.

          • valorius

            Meh, i didn’t like him anyway.

          • Brad Ferguson

            So I guess wheel guns are all unsafe too……eh ?

      • iksnilol

        Funny thing is, I use that same line on why I prefer CZs to Glocks.

      • Jimney123

        Ergonomics, durability, performance, trigger, sites,…a lot of reasons. For special forces units who put thousands of rounds down range and engage in combat on a regular basis, H&K and SIG are preferred brands because of all those little things that make them better firearms. For a relatively unskilled layman,like yourself, Glock is fine…but it’s the AK 47 of pistols. It’s simply and cheaply produced, upper and lower that goes bang every time but it IS NOT a performer on the same level as H&K or Sig in the hands of a skilled operator.

    • Sam

      All these new models that have such small changes remind me of the all the Apple brand lemmings. iPhone 1,2,3,4,5,6,6s,6q,6z, whatever. Everybody’s gotta have the new model despite it being the same thing as the first.

      • Actually, if you compare Apple products to say, Samsung Galaxy products you’ll find that there is way more Galaxy versions compared to iPhones. Every tech company releases new models all the time. It’s their business model after all, planned obsolescence. Processor technology has changed rapidly over the past few years. They keep on shrinking them and reducing the amount of power needed. So is a newer processor that can be half the size and uses half the energy as the a previous one not worth using on a new model of a phone? But what do I know? I’m just a grunt and my iPhone and iPad are quite a few models behind.

        • Sam

          Wow I mean, you could take the joke a little more seriously.

    • DAN V.

      Isn’t that what most people do to stock ARs?

      • Anonymoose

        And AKs nowadays, and 1911s before everything else. Of course revolver and bolt-action customization came first, but that often requires cutting and drilling and other irreversible actions.

  • Anonymoose

    Needs moar G19 Gen2.

  • uisconfruzed

    Changes in rifling? Probably Bollard instead of polygonal, cheaper to make, lower velocity & won’t run as clean.

  • SpartacusKhan

    Polygonal rifling was literally the only thing glocks had going for them, the single pro in a sea of cons. Weird~

    • J.T.

      Probably a cost cutting measure for the contract.

      • El Mac

        It’s not a cost cutting measure, it was an accuracy requirement.

  • Glock Perfection.
    (But wait, we’re releasing a new and improved perfection real soon now.)

    • Bronson

      Oh wow an exaggerated marketing slogan. Let’s make the same jokes about that for years!

  • valorius

    Still no manual safety option eh?

  • JSIII

    If the “improved” finish is the same as the “old” Gen 3/Early Gen 4 finish count me sold. I love that finish it is so much tougher than whatever it is they use now. The current finish mine as well use the CZ “Polycoat”

  • iksnilol

    Y’all should drive hummers as well since that’s what the military uses, right?

    • Richard Lutz

      The M4 is not the best rifle in the world, but that is what soliders and most police use in the US, so that is what members of the unorganized militia must use there. You want to be familiar with what the police and military use, while you will be able to source spare parts, mags and ammo for these rifles from military and police arsenals. The primary purpose of the unorganized militia is to support their government in an emergency and deter tyranny and crimes against humanity. American adults have a social duty to help protect the Republic and their fellow citizens.

      • iksnilol

        Support the government? Isn’t the government the most likely candidate to be the tyrants?

        • Richard Lutz

          Don’t buy into the anti-militia propaganda that civilians who arm themselves to defend the Republic and minorities are “anti-government” even if the biggest threat comes from the national government. We must arm ourselves to help protect a law-abiding government (and in so doing deterring a coup) and support them when necessary. In Algeria in the 1990s Islamist terrorists would slaughter the population of remote villages (Algeria had draconian gun laws so very few civilians could legally own a firearm) until the government set up local militia units to combat the terrorists, which quickly stopped these atrocities.

  • Thamuze Ulfrsson

    Gee Golly, a new Glockarooni!

  • Steve

    Springfield Armory XDM is far superior, better quality and has all the features they wanted. I own an XDM and a G23 so I can say without a doubt IMO XDM is a better pistol.

  • Jeff Cordell

    The Gen 4 is only six years old and it’s already “a bit long in the tooth and needs some refreshing”? Wow. I’ve been carrying my Gen 4 Glock 19 since 2012! I’m amazed that it hasn’t disintegrated due to it’s advanced age. My back up S&W Model 49 was made in 1973. It should be in a museum! Talk about an attitude that exemplifies “the consumer society”. LOL.