Step Aside VELOCITOR, the New Rimfire Velocity King is COPPER-22

Copper-22

New CCI Copper-22 .22 LR 21 Grain HP

CCI’s Velocitor .22 long rifle ammunition has been extremely popular since its inception, but CCI may have outdone themselves with their new Copper-22. With Velocitor pushing an impressive 1,435 Feet/Second (FPS), the new Copper-22 moves at a startling 1,850 FPS! That is a velocity you never hear discussed in the same sentence as .22 long rifle ammunition.

Their secret could be in the light bullet and its construction. CCI had this to say about their latest rimfire offering:

CCI Ammunition is proud to announce a new 22 Long Rifle offering with new Copper-22. Its non-lead bullet is suited for plinking, target-shooting and small game hunting. Shipments of this new product are now being delivered to dealers.

The Copper-22 projectile is constructed from a unique mix of copper particles and polymer compressed into a potent, 21-grain hollow-point bullet. Combined with CCI’s reliable priming and propellant, Copper-22 loads achieve a muzzle velocity of 1,850 fps and provide superb accuracy.

This is definitely some ammo that the YouTube sensation 22Plinkster will need to test for all of us to watch. The specs on this ammo look great as well.

  • Non-Lead bullet suited for Plinking, Target-Shooting & Small Game Hunting
  • 21-Grain Hollow-Point bullet
  • Compressed Copper-Polymer construction
  • 1,850 FPS muzzle velocity
  • Excellent Accuracy

At the moment, .22 long rifle ammunition is still pretty difficult to get in many regions of the country, but availability is getting better. Whether you are a guardian of your bird feeder, a long-range rimfire addict, or as curious about new products as I am, this should be some good stuff!

For the full press release of the new Copper-22 ammunition by CCI, click HERE.



Hello everyone! The outdoors, Crossfit, and anything firearm related have always been my passions. I’ve been a guest writer for Sierra Bullets, am a Smith & Wesson Armorer, reloader, and have an addiction to classic S&W and Colt revolvers. Be sure to visit TFB frequently and keep your magazines full, my friends!


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  • Anonymoose

    Just wait til next year when they bring out the 10gr copper .17HMRs!

    • Joesph Constable

      I am waiting for the 5 gr.

      • Russian Roulette

        Pfft. I use 1gr. 4,500 fps rounds for my .17 hmr.

        • Volk

          Haha, people still use full grains?! I’ve been shooting 475 milligrain projectiles for years

  • 22winmag

    Look… more companies attempting to emulate Liberty Civil Defense by getting in on the hyper-velocity, ultra-light for caliber bandwagon.

    • raz-0

      Or probably more accurately, couldn’t give a crap about liberty civil defense, and are trying to have lead free options in their most popular lineups so they can have access to regulated markets.

  • Sasquatch

    What length battle was these test done from?

    • Gorilla Biscuit

      Hence, the great mystery of rimfire ammo velocity numbers has been uncovered.

      • Giolli Joker

        Not really, usually 22LR speed peaks at around 16.5″, as you can see on the website of Ballistics by the Inch.
        Jowever this Copper 22 is so far untested.

        • gunsandrockets

          You know I’ve always heard that too. Yet I ran some .22 Blazer through an old .22 military training rifle with a 25 inch barrel and got surprisingly high velocity readings.

          • Sasquatch

            I would just love to crono my remington 550-1 and see what I get with some different ammo offerings.

          • Giolli Joker

            My only source is BBTI: they did not go above 18″ and they didn’t test the Blazer.
            However on the “real world weapon” table they show that some load accelerates consistently in barrels up to 23″, while others don’t.
            On average however it seems that around 16″ there’s a sweet spot.

          • gunsandrockets

            Blazer is the cheap loose packed standard velocity .22 LR, and the last load I would have expected to pick up extra speed. Chronograph measured 1,330 fps velocity fired from the 25 inch long barrel.

          • Gorilla Biscuit

            Every barrel is different. And every chronograph has it’s own nuances. Variables man variables .

          • iksnilol

            Because you had like a crapton of barrel more than people usually have?

        • Gorilla Biscuit

          The general public doesn’t understand that. They understand a number printed on a box, without any other supporting information. Then they feel armed with knowledge . Because numbers.

      • rbdthnfngfnh

        Just like 357mag ammo…

  • nova3930

    Suitable for plinking….except that 556 will probably be cheaper….

    • Anonymoose

      But will solid-copper 5.56 be cheaper? You realize this is for Commiefornia, where they’ve banned leaded boolits, right?

      • nova3930

        Did not. It’s not apparent that was the intent from the article.
        Even still I have a hard time accepting a 25 cents/round rimfire “plinking” ammo.

        • Hoplopfheil

          The packaging indicates it’s intended for small game getting, in places where lead ammo is banned.

          CCI uses these 50 round boxes for their “high end” ammo meant for hunting, like Stingers and Velocitors.

          • nova3930

            Understand. Have plenty of Stingers sitting in the closet. I was reading their press release.

        • Gary Kirk

          Than get rid of your 22..

          • Kivaari

            I paid $00.07 per round of Federal 22 LR a month ago. Not bad. Not $00.39/box of 50 when I was a kid 60 years ago. Then we kids walked into the local gas station for .22 sells packaged like Chickletts gum.

          • buzzman1

            I’m not as old as you but I can remember a brick of 1000 rds going for about $5.

          • Dean Seaman

            I was gonna say, I can remember when a box of .22’s went for 50 cents. Doesn’t seem like all that long ago, either.

          • nova3930

            Huh? Last plinking 22 I bought I paid 8 cents/round and Cabelas (of all places) had plenty at that price.

          • dltaylor51

            Once i saw Cabala’s profiteering off of 22 shells it made me so mad I haven’t been back since and i used to spend an easy grand a month there and if Bass pro doesn’t learn by Cabala’s mistake I wont be doing any business there either.I found a little Seattle based store chain called buy mart where a brick of 500 sells for $19.97 and a box of 50 goes for $2.08,they have about 12 stores here in the NW.Just bought some there last wk,a brick a day or 2 boxes of 50 so they are limiting but at least they’re not gouging.

      • rbdthnfngfnh

        I’ve seen 223 copper reloads for $0.30/rnd. As I understand, the projectiles aren’t all that expensive. Market adjustment is another thing.

      • Kivaari

        Except it isn’t solid. Plastic and copper.

        • Giolli Joker

          More like sintered, indeed.

    • dltaylor51

      And way more available.

  • Gorilla Biscuit

    So 1300fps from a 4in pistol barrel??

  • Kevin Craig

    Most of my .22 rifles were developed for standard velocity 40 grain ammo.

    This stubby, lightweight, hypervolicty ammo would probably provide groups like buckshot.

    • iksnilol

      And lose velocity so you couldn’t really use it at distance (100 meters and farther).

      • rbdthnfngfnh

        How far do you shoot 22LR?

        • iksnilol

          15 meters with 100 meter simulated targets (during winter, indoor range) and actual 100 meters otherwise.

          Max I’ve pushed it to was 150 meters, but that’s because I was using diopter sights. If I had a mildot scope I’d have pushed it to 300 meters (like plenty of others have done). It’s quiet, cheap and behaves at short distances (200-300 meters) somewhat like 308 would at about 800-1000 meters. In other words, it is handy, especially for longer distance practice for people without long ranges nearby.

          • Gary Kirk

            Yes.. Only problem is with the 22 going transonic at around 70-80 yds.. Give it a little more leg room and could possibly settle down.. But if this stuff is doing what it claims, might make the 100 shooters day

          • iksnilol

            Doubt it, even lighter bullet is going to lose velocity even faster. Sure, it starts out with more, but it is going to shed it faster as well.

            For shooting at distance with .22 you need subsonic rounds.

          • Bill Funk

            Ah, someone with at least a modicum of understanding of physics.
            Cross sectional density is what determines how much wind resistance affects velocity, given reasonable aerodynamics.
            IOW, the heavier a given caliber bullet is, the longer it will retain its velocity. The downside to that is, of course, the heavier bullet is harder to accelerate to a high velocity in the first place.

      • Kevin Craig

        According to CCI’s page, they go subsonic before 75 yards.

        • Gary Kirk

          Sorry, didn’t read your response before typing mine.. Do they go transonic at 75?

        • iksnilol

          See, even worse off.

          Standard velocity is the stuff needed IMO, 320 m/s is subsonic most places.

    • rbdthnfngfnh

      Copper rounds have lower density. Dimensionally, they can be the same size but half the weight. The projectile in question is probably long enough for most common twist rates.

      • Kevin Craig

        They don’t give the dimensions, but the OAL looks shorter than 40 grain LRN. The truncated cone shape also changes the center or gravity.

        I’ll try some; I just don’t expect good results.

      • Jeff

        I think you mean short enough. Longer bullets require faster twists. Shorter ones should work fine. These would be shorter than lead ones of the same weight.

      • dltaylor51

        And do they have enough weight to carry the freight at distance?

        • buzzman1

          No. Go to the CCI website and compare them to a standard .22 LR their energy falls off quickly after 25 yards and their velocity after 50.

          • dltaylor51

            I wish they would quit wasting everyone’s time bringing out new more expensive 22 shells when they should just spend their resources cranking out blazers by the boat load at a reasonable price,put the suggested retail price right on the box so we can use it to shame the gougers and profiteers.

    • Blake

      Kinda like Remington Yellow Jackets…

    • buzzman1

      Go to the CCI website. Its a waste of money.

  • Hoplopfheil

    Still doesn’t pull down as much muzzle energy as Aguila SuperMaximum (30gr at 1700fps), and I bet won’t retain as much downrange either.

    All the same, I love lead free products and will totally buy some.

    • iksnilol

      heavier bullets retain velocity better. This is very important in regards to .22 LR.

      • Hoplopfheil

        Yep. That’s why Velocitor and Aguila Interceptor carry the most energy downrange (at least compared to any other .22 LR I can find data for).

        Where it gets really fun is that the third place in retained energy at 100yds is… Aguila Sniper Subsonic. Which keeps 80 percent of its energy at that distance, vs only about 60 percent for the first two places.

        • iksnilol

          I’ve wanted to try the Sniper Subsonic but I don’t have a good barrel for it. I wonder how a barrel with optimized twist for 60 grains would act with the regular 40 grain rounds?

          • Blake

            My Beretta Neos stabilized 60gr SSS just fine. Back when you could still just order a brick of the stuff from Midway without any fuss, we used them on knockdown plates & dueling trees with good success (be sure to lube the dueling tree first :-).

          • iksnilol

            Fine enough to be used in a suppressor? Fine enough for precise 100 meter shooting?

            Those are the things that matter to me.

          • Ola

            Regular 1/14″ twist rifle-lenght barrel will stabilise them marginally. At 50 meters they start to wobble around and after that they all go sideways and the accuracy is gone.

    • Blake

      The hot Aguila SuperMax & Interceptors are fun, but they don’t group very well in any of our guns (granted, we don’t own a 22LR bolt gun at the moment).

      Velocitors on the other hand, group superbly in both our 10/22s & the Marlin 39 leverguns.

      • Sean

        SuperMaximum’s for some reason work great in my .22lr Kimber 1911 conversion kit.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I just painted racing stripes on all my regular .22 ammo.
    Now they go fast.

    • Giolli Joker

      Indeed adding speed holes would have been too hard.

    • hikerguy

      You have a way with words that few here can come close to equaling. You really should have been teaching writing in a school somewhere or writng novels, LOL!

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I did win a fourth grade spelling bee.

        2015 was a good year.

        • Cory C

          Hahahaha.

    • Joshua

      “Da red wunz go fasta!”

      • AD

        Dakkadakkadakka!

    • Bill Funk

      STP stickers work well for me.

  • iksnilol

    Y’all ought’a not forget that these bullets weigh half of what regular bullets weigh. I imagine they wouldn’t be good at distances more than a 100 meters.

    • Laserbait

      Depends greatly on what the ballistic coefficient of the bullet is.

      • DIR911911 .

        doesn’t look good from the pic

      • iksnilol

        That short, stubby bullet (+ is supes lightweight) ain’t gonna have good BC, sorry to burst the bubble. I can bet it goes transsonic around 70 meters.

        • maodeedee

          It ain’t a bullet, it’s a pellet.

  • Ted Schoenling

    Velocitor still has more advertised energy…

  • The_manBEar

    eh I’ll stick with my CCI Stingers – squirrels worst enemy.

  • rbdthnfngfnh

    If this penetrates soft armor, watch CA make it illegal >.<

  • Jamarcus Skylooter

    Or maybe cci could increase production of stingers?

  • CMonster 556

    I can see the need for this in the Cali market, but I really wish CCI would spend a little more time and money making mini-mags readily available that see all this off-stuff that they produce. I don’t need quiet/segmented/target/short/ .22, I need mini-mag hp, which is what all but one of my .22s prefers.

  • Blake

    I bet these are the bee’s knees, but I’d settle for being able to find Velocitors again (& have them cost less than 9mm plinking ammo).

    • maodeedee

      These “velocity kings” are just a gimmick. I like the Velocitors. They’re accurate and function reliably in my 10-22 carbine that I bought at Bi-mart for $169.99. I bought my first 10-22 in 1969 when I was in the military and I think it was 50 bucks at the BX I wish I still had it, but I like the new one fairly well even with the plastic parts and the synthetic stock.
      I have other 22’s and they all like CCI blazers. So I wish CCI would just concentrate on making more Blazers, AND Velocitors.

  • Blake

    The sad thing about all this is that Hornady cracked this nut a decade ago with .17HM2, delivering a 17gr .17 cal bullet at ~2100fps (~166 lb-ft). The guns & ammo were both made with high precision, & deadly accurate as a result. Ammo was a bit more expensive than hot 22LR rounds like Velocitors, & available in 500rnd bricks just like 22LR.

    Unfortunately, a perfect storm of two things killed it:

    – a whole lot of ammo was made with substandard cases, that caused a lot of ruptured cases, kabooms, squib loads, etc.

    – a whole lot of people tried to convert 10/22s to .17HM2 with a simple barrel change & adding a weighted bolt handle. The other stock 10/22 components such as the recoil spring were not designed for this about of blowback pressure, & so cheaply converted guns wouldn’t hold the bolt closed long enough for pressure to drop to safe levels (especially on longer-barreled guns).

    This combination of bad cases & bad conversions caused a panic, & the ammo mfrs & firearms mfrs (& especially the conversion kit makers) tried to deflect blame to one another. The end result was that every semi-auto .17HM2 manufacturer except Volquartsen stopped production & recalled all their rifles. Between the recalls & the reputation for kabooms, the .17HM2 was dead in the water.

    Which is really a shame, because it’s the ultimate evolution of the 22LR concept…

    • iksnilol

      The spring ain’t the problem in a blowback gun, it’s the lightweight bolt.

      • Don Mei

        Its a combination of the two. If you have a light bolt, you can compensate with a stiff spring. If you have a heavy bolt, you can use a lighter spring. The point is to delay the action and reduce the rate at which the bolt accelerates rearward, which can be accomplished either way.

        • iksnilol

          You can’t fool physics.
          I’d suggest reading up on Orion’s Hammer.

  • DIR911911 .

    ballistics gel or it didn’t happen

    • maodeedee

      Ballistics gel compared to the actual science of ballistics is like comic books compared to textbooks. Comic books may be useful for inspiring the imagination and Ballistics gel videos accomplish the same thing, but it ain’t science.

      Ballistics gel also tends to favor high-velocity-low mass ammo so this new round would look good in ballistic gel at close range even if it didn’t work all that well in real life at real life distances.

      The federal rep (and federal owns CCI) that said it patterned like a shotgun at 75 yards is something that could have been predicted by understanding the ballistic inferiority of a projectile of such low sectional density and light weight regardless of increased muzzle velocity.

  • Spencerhut

    I was a industry show where a rep from Federal shot some of this stuff into ballistic gel. Even the Federal rep said this stuff shoots shotgun patterns at 75 yards.
    The only purpose of this ammo is CA compliance, that is it. Ammo designed to comply with Commiefornia laws. And we all know the best way to design ammo is with the input of anti-gun politicians.

  • Isa Akhbar

    Curiously, I bought some of these several years ago, and never got around to trying them…I’ll have to look in the ammo cabinet at see what the “old” version did for fps. They’re not really new, but they may have just now gotten around to producing a new run of them…?

  • TheBest

    Stick to Mini-Mags. Up the production before making these niche rounds!

  • Klaus Von Schmitto

    This is fantastic news! I think I’ll run down to Walmart or the 7-11 and pick up a case.

  • Jeff

    Velocitor never was the velocity king.

    • maodeedee

      No, as far as velocity goes for CCI 22LR, the Stinger was the former “velocity king” but the Stinger achieved 1640 Fps with a 32 grain bullet, not a dinky little 21 grain copper pellet.

  • Guido FL

    Big deal with all .22 ammo STILL in short supply and when available at high prices ! I’ve sold off all my .22’s and haven’t looked back !

  • maodeedee

    Trading mass for velocity is a losing proposition. This new offering outdoes the stinger but not the Velocitor. The Velocitor attained 1435 with a heavy 40 grain bullet. The 21 grain pellet lacks sectional density and will shed velocity fast as ranges increase.

  • Relyconfused

    Is nobody else upset that all these manufactures are coming out with these new fancy .22lr ammo, but they still cant keep up with demand for their tried and true ammo!

  • buzzman1

    Checked out CCIs spec sheet on it and it loses its velocity edge of standard 40 GR LR at slightly over 50 yards and its energy edge at slightly over 25 yards. At twice the price for a 25 yard bullet not interested.

  • Dean Seaman

    Technically, isn’t this .22 long?