If Its Scary, It Should Be ILLEGAL!… Vox.com Surveys People on Firearm Appearance

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The last few months in the US have been pretty tumultuous if you have been watching the news. Without getting too political, we have seen terror attacks, hate crimes, and a multitude of other criminal activity. It is truly unsettling and has a lot of people on edge. Some people want to scream gun control or make other arguments, but I digress. What is interesting is what firearms some Americans think should be legal or illegal. Vox, an internet news site, tried to delve into that exact topic.

Vox teamed up with Morning Consult and tried to ask the question of firearm legality. They asked 2,000 people whether certain firearms should be legal or illegal merely based on appearance and their name. The infographic below is very telling. The less it looks like a hunting firearm and the more scary it appears lead whoever they surveyed to believe it should be illegal!

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Results from 2,000 people surveyed on whether certain firearms should be LEGAL or ILLEGAL [Credit: Vox/Morning Consult]

You get some interesting, and maybe not surprising results, when you start to identify respondents by their political affiliation. Vox and Morning Consult took it a few steps further by dividing results from their survey by gender. Their full story and results can be found HERE.

A final point they covered is how long it takes to shoot a particular firearm with its standard capacity magazine and reload it.

All of the information drawn from their survey should be taken lightly because we do not know what pool of individuals were surveyed and many other unknown factors. The points covered though are everything you might want to discuss around the company water cooler… appearance, name, ability to reload fast, ability to shoot fast, etc.

Finally, I would like to say that this is not meant to be a political post. It is always interesting to know what our peers, or the general public, perceives we should be allowed to have when it comes to firearms.



Hello everyone! The outdoors, Crossfit, and anything firearm related have always been my passions. I’ve been a guest writer for Sierra Bullets, am a Smith & Wesson Armorer, reloader, and have an addiction to classic S&W and Colt revolvers. Be sure to visit TFB frequently and keep your magazines full, my friends!


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  • BattleshipGrey

    Good thing they didn’t show a picture of “the shoulder thing that goes up”, I bet 99% would piss themselves.

  • Blake

    “small handguns like the .44 Magnum”

    …said no one ever, until this Vox article…

    • Giolli Joker

      “small handguns like the .44 Magnum”

      Said the kid that doesn’t know Callahan but played videogames with Desert Eagle .50AE and watches videos of S&W .500…

      • Anonymoose

        Heh, if you put a 3 inch barrel and boot grips on one of those S&W Model 69s it would be kinda small for a big, honkin, bear-killin revolver.

        • BattleshipGrey

          I’m off topic here but have you seen thenotoriousiud around lately? I haven’t. Hoping he’s okay.

          • Anonymoose

            Not in a couple days. :

          • BattleshipGrey

            Seems like it’s been ages since I’ve seen him comment here, maybe it’s just been on the articles I haven’t clicked on. Thanks.

          • Jolly

            Seems to be MIA lately

    • You are correct, Sir! According to FBI statistics, rifles of all kinds are used in less than 2% of homicides in the US.

      • Blake

        In addition to the uninforceable & tragically-comically-phrased laws on the books, the thing that I find most deplorable about US pro- & anti- gun politics is that neither side (nor the media that serve as their mouthpieces) seems to give two s*i*s about the following facts presented clearly by FBI data:

        – suicides account for an astonishingly high number of firearm-related deaths & injuries
        – mass shootings account for a startlingly small percentage of firearm-related deaths & injuries
        – ALL of the recent mass shootings not committed in the name of radicial Islam have been committed by people with a history of mental illness
        – the majority of firearms used in crimes are either straw-bought, stolen, or otherwise acquired without the perp having passed an NICS background check
        – an overwhelming majority of firearms used in crimes are handguns, mostly cheap handguns

        & no one on either side is saying or doing anything about any of this; I suppose because these are hard problems to solve & there’s no huge lobby behind them (whereas “bans” or expounding the 2nd amendment as broadly as possible are easy)…

        • gunsandrockets

          Another interesting fact:

          About half a million firearms are stolen every year (according to one study using data from 1994, which means it might be much lower today)

        • Budogunner

          The mental illness issue is dangerous. It’s too easy to get someone labeled as mentally ill these days and some people might choose to keep their Constitutional Rights rather than seeking help.

          As for the serious cases, it is already the case that you can’t buy a gun if you have been adjudicated mentally ill or involuntarily committed.

          Anything more strict and we would disarm all of America in an instant. I mean, anyone who voted for either Candidate this time could be argued to be insane.

          • Jim Halberson

            You hit the nail on the head my friend. Who declares just whom is crazy is the sticking point, especially if it’s the Government making those decision. Makes it way to easy to disarm the populate with that power in their hands. ….and your also right about upholding existing laws we already have instead of just making new one’s

        • Wes

          Hey, speaking of suicide rates with handguns…. in Germany where it is practically impossible to get a handgun, there are still people who want to commit suicide. They have a thing there called a Geistfarher (ghost driver). A suicidal person will travel the wrong way on the autobahn until they hit someone head on and possibly kill them both.

        • John1943

          Do not confuse people with the facts. Their minds are made up, and anything conflicting must be ignored, lest they go mad trying to resolve fact and fiction.

    • Anonymoose

      Should have put the Hi-Point .380 up there, since it’s even more likely to be used than a Taurus, and for all the rappers talking about “Glawk Foties” (because the local cops carry G22s), they’re not as common in the ghetto as the cheap potmetal costing half the price.

    • Just say’n

      Someone needs to add a 3rd column to the graphic showing “murders per capita”. Bet it would be the inverse of “what should be banned”.

  • Giolli Joker

    Is the typo in the title intentional?

  • Joseph Goins

    Am I the only one who noticed the picture says “5.76mm bullet”?

    • Bill

      I also like how they specified it was a metal cartridge.

  • Joseph Goins

    #1) I am immediately petrified that only 74% of those surveyed (68% Democrat, 81% Republican) said they thought the flare gun should be legal. It isn’t even a gun!

    #2) Non-gun people are generally conditioned to be less afraid of older looking guns (levers, cyclinders, wooden furniture). I wonder how the M1A would have done.

    #3) People don’t know what each gun is capable of doing. I would rather have a lever action than the dumb old Remington 700 every day of the week.

    • Jim Halberson

      All good points! I’ll take the lever action too over bolts.

  • cwp

    Vox’s voters are evenly divided on whether *a deer rifle* should be legal to own.

    I used to think my 2005-era prediction of “civil war by 2050” was a sarcastic expression of dismay at our inability to be civil across partisan lines. Now I think I was far too optimistic in thinking it might not happen until then.

    • lowell houser

      Might not happen? It NEEDS to happen. It’s the only way to revamp the voting system so that the left can be banned from flooding our hyper-inclusive-anyone-18-and-breathing-can-vote democracy. Let’s face it, IQ tests would be better than what we have now. Means tests would be better than what we have now. A military service requirement like in Heinlein’s Starship Troopers would be better than what we have now. Anyway that we can pull the left out of the voter pool the better off we will all be. And of, course, during and after such a war masses of leftists would flee to other countries, so that would help a lot.

      • tts

        Banning political groups you don’t like is highly undemocratic and a pretty bad idea in general. It wouldn’t be hard for someone in power to twist what exactly counts as “correct” politics into a tool to suppress others.

        “IQ” tests have been done before and were primarily a means to deny “unwanted” people the vote so that idea is both doomed to fail and heavily tainted with the history of Jim Crow/racism.

        I also think anyone who has seen what civil war does to a country would never advocate for it just to eliminate those who they disagree with politically. That is very Authoritarian style thinking and historically just ends with lots of people getting killed.

        • QuadGMoto

          Yet such a “ban” was actually done in this country right after the Revolutionary War. It wasn’t a formal, government enforced ban. The Tories who supported the king’s efforts to kill and subjugate their neighbors were made to feel very unwelcome and most left the states. That was probably a good thing, considering that unity is practically impossible to achieve with those who were just trying to kill you—or at lease supported those trying to kill you.

          • tts

            That wasn’t the sort of “ban” lowell hauser was talking about though. He was talking about a literal permanent govt. enforced ban made into law on “incorrect” politics and not the sort of unorganized independent mobs + social ostricizing that was directed ex-Loyalists after the war in some cities which is what you’re describing.

            And even during that period the sort of stuff lowell hauser is advocating for didn’t happen. Most of the Loyalist people still stayed in the US they just moved to different parts of it and still had their vote. It was around 5% that left the US pop. at the time that left after the Revolutionary War ended. Their vote wasn’t denied and their politics weren’t dictated to them.

            Not every division that arises results in war. In terms of politics the current Left is quite mellow compared to how they were in general during the 60’s. The sort of domestic violence isn’t anything unheard of either. Predicting something on the scale of a civil war at this point is eye-rollingly silly.

          • Jwedel1231

            Death and bloodshed are terrible things and should be avoided when possible, but somethings are worth fighting, and therefore dying, for.

        • Rousso

          Relax guys. All of this wouldn’t really change anything.
          Merica is nothing more than a testing fileld for the Masonic social experiments. It has been for 100 years. It will be for the next 100 years. This “Left and Right” is a game, kind of chess. And all of us are just pawns in it

          • tts

            All I can say is I hope you’re trolling and not really a believer in various Free Mason multi century conspiracies.

          • Rousso

            I am 50% Russian, so… and I know something about religion, too, so… I’m telling you, there have been a lot of “conspiracies”, for real.

          • tts

            That there have been real conspiracies doesn’t mean all conspiracies are real or that all conspiracies should be considered legit until proven otherwise.

          • Mike Lashewitz

            They are not conspiracies when one fact is true. History is replete with Masonic conspiracies.

          • Mike Lashewitz

            Example: Every US President has been a 33rd degree Mason… Not a conspiracy a fact that proves a conspiracy.
            Example: Every US President except VanBuren is related to every other US President and royalty.

        • Mike Lashewitz

          You do know what the Founding Fathers said about Political Parties?

          Political parties are used solely to manipulate the voters…

      • Cory C

        So you’re advocating for tyranny then. Great. Glad you’re honest about it, I guess.

      • Budogunner

        As a law abiding, firearm owning citizen I find everything about this outlook horrifying.

        Freedom doesn’t mean killing or disenfranchising anyone who disagrees with you.

      • fnu lnu

        Banning a political perspective or “faith” or whatever is not the answer. If one “side” or the other were to have almighty control, it would not be pleasant. What we’re experiencing is a corruption of the Constitution.

    • It’s a deer rifle with a huge sniperscope, though! No honest man needs more than 4x magnification! And every rightthinking person knows that a combat bipod doubles the firing speed and triples the deadliness and lethality!

      • cwp

        What’s really sad is that in some circles that probably wouldn’t be taken as sarcasm.

        • The number of gun control supporters who legitimately don’t know basic things like “semi-automatic means it fires one time for each trigger pull” is huuuuuge, much less the ones who don’t know that semi-auto rifles are used in less than 1% of homicides in the US or that fully two thirds of deaths by firearm in this country are suicides rather than homicides. Good people who just don’t know any better get lied to by the sensationalist 24 hour news cycle, it’s why I always try to be patient and explain the flat and unambiguous facts to them instead of yelling back.

          • Jim Halberson

            I agree, one of the biggest failings of the Liberal left is lack of firearms nomenclature. A useful tip that the person speaking about gun control is a totally clueless nut job. I hope things stay that way, it’s kind of a handy clue if you think about it….LOL

          • grendal113

            i used to agree. the mass shooters were usually noobs and had zero training. Now it isn’t as funny.

      • A bearded being from beyond ti

        This reminds me of some stupid comment i read once were someone, who probably wasn’t a hunter, said that you’re a loser if you need a semi-auto rifle to hunt.

        • bolt action hunters tend to only need one shot wheras those deer hunters with an ar-15 tend to mag dump.

          • I only needed one from my AR to drop an eight pointer last season, but I’ve helped a family friend track a buck through three miles of folktale-thick brush after he’d shot it three times with a .30-06; stuff happens in the woods, man. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

          • Sasquatch

            Shot placement shot placement shot placement.

          • Got it in one!

            …If your aim was good.

          • Sasquatch

            Yep I still hunt with a .243 win New England Firearms single shot.

          • Mike Lashewitz

            Know your gear.

        • Out of the Blue

          See the comment below.

        • I wish I’d had my AR back when I had two sows and ten-twelve piglets trot out under the feeder a few years back; I’d-a had a lot more whole pigs for the cookout than I got with my Winchester 1300.

      • Mike Lashewitz

        I miss living and hunting in Alaska. Those long range shots that saved a lot of hiking….

    • john huscio

      Country gonna split into at the very least 3 different states. Federation of new England (mass, CT, NY, NJ) republic of California (the coastal strip from San Diego to SF) and middle America (everything else) Hawaii will go independent, Alaska goes independent, maybe cities like Chicago become their own city-states while cities like Baltimore, Memphis and new Orleans burn themselves to the ground and aren’t rebuilt…I can see population exchanges between former parts of the US similar to what happened between Greece and Turkey in the 20s, only this time based on political affiliation……whatever form this country takes next, it will be extremely messy getting there.

      • Jwedel1231

        Hawaii would never go independent, they could not support themselves. They would most likely join with the West Coast Soviet State. Alaska could feasibly go independent.

      • Rousso

        That’s right!
        Alaska goes independent, than Russians send the little green men and after the following referendum, Alaska goes back to the Motherland.
        And those who disagree can get their share of those 120 million dollars. No problem.

        “Russian America (Russian: Русская Америка, Russkaya Amerika) was the name of the Russian colonial possessions in the Americas from 1733 to 1867. Settlements spanned parts of what are now the US states of California, Alaska, and two ports in Hawaii. Formal incorporation of the possessions by Russia did not take place until the Ukase of 1799 which established a monopoly for the Russian–American Company and also granted the Russian Orthodox Church certain rights in the new possessions. Many of its possessions were abandoned in the 19th century. In 1867 Russia sold its last remaining possessions to the United States for $7.2 million ($120 million in 2013 dollars).”

    • ostiariusalpha

      What I find truly hilarious is that 69% of the respondents think a Semi-automatic Shotgun is A-Okay. Load that Benelli with slugs or buckshot and it is a friggin’ death machine, even despite its more limited capacity, with over 90% lethality at close range. But it has pretty wood furniture and it’s not a “weapon of war,” so no one needs to worry.

      • Ondřej Turek

        Indeed. For a long time, I was thinking of a wood-furnitured flat-top AR-15. The stock might even be a single piece with the pistol grip. That’s “non-scary” variant.

        But beware the notable deviation: the AK-47 couldn’t be helped regardless of the percentage of wood it carries. That’s because banana-shaped, protruding mags are super-scary!

        • ostiariusalpha

          Yep, you’ll want to stick to a flush magazine. The moment they see a mag hanging out the receiver, they tend to shart their britches.

        • Blake
      • Evan

        We had semiautomatic Benelli shotguns in Iraq. They looked different from that one, but I imagine the action was quite similar.

        • ostiariusalpha

          The M4 Combat Shotgun is the same gun, it just has a shorter barrel, extended mag, and a pistol grip. Also, scary polymer furniture and muzzle device, OoooOooohh!! 😨

          • Evan

            I’m 99% sure they didn’t have a muzzle device, but those ghost ring sights, and all anodized aluminum and polymer and no walnut….quite terrifying.

  • datimes

    Vox is a crazy left wing site. The thing that frightens me the most is the lethality of the of the 5.76 cartridge fired from the AR-15 rifle. Ban the 5.76!!

    • Jim Halberson

      Bahahaha, I see what you did there… (he-he-he) See your point is actually why no one takes the liberal left seriously when it comes fireams ….. well that and the mental illiness required to be admitted to the club….. there’s that….LOL

  • LazyReader

    mmmm, Legal

    • Zorg

      Voila! The ZF-1. It’s light;
      handle’s adjustable for easy carrying; good for righties and lefties;
      breaks down into four parts; undetectable by X-ray; ideal for quick
      discreet interventions. A word on firepower. Titanium recharger;
      3000-round clip with bursts of 3 to 300. And with the replay button,
      another Zorg invention, it’s even easier. One shot… …and replay sends every following shot to the same location.
      Rocket launcher… arrow launcher, with exploding or poisonous gas
      heads, very practical… our famous net launcher… the always-efficient
      flamethrower, my favorite… and for the grand finale, the all-new ‘Ice-cube System’!

      • marathag

        And the special red button.

        • Jim Halberson

          ….never touch the red button…… bahahaha. That movie was one of the reasons I started to shave my head like Bruce Willis.

    • allenjeremy

      Great for riders and lefties?

      • Mike Lashewitz

        What? It is spelled right. Spell check can’t do anything for that. . . .

  • Trevor

    The title sounds just like what you would see on TTAG. The only thing missing was some snark and maybe smugness in the content.

    You said it’s not a political post because it’s interesting to know what the general public things should or shouldn’t be legal, but you were just questioning the value of the survey one paragraph prior.

    The way this post reads to me is “look what these silly non-gun people think about guns”, which is not the type of content that draws me to this site.

    • Jim Halberson

      Trevor – If that’s the case then go back to the Huffington post, your safe zone.

  • Major Tom

    MG3’s should be totes legal! It’s horribly impractical for anything other than demonstrations on a firing range!

    • Bjørn Vermo

      Actually, it is very good for laying down protective fire. That is a must for any well organized militia. It would not be possible today for a militia to defend against a coup without the same weapons a contemporary army has.

  • Tom

    Garbage article covering a garbage study. If they aren’t willing to discuss the age ranges of the polled, where the poll was conducted in and divulge the exact results the poll is nothing more than a useless info graphic with no hard data backing it up.

    I thought TFB was better than this.

  • Anonymoose

    Remember, the votes of Democrats, illegal immigrants, and dead people always count twice. 😀

    • Jim Halberson

      Indeed my friend, no truer words were ever spoken. Democratic skulduggery will be practiced on a grand scale this election cycle to be sure.

  • John Yossarian

    Who needs terrorists, when our fellow Americans hate our freedoms.

    • Jim Halberson

      Well the current commander in chief hates us anyway. I had issues with the phrase “commander in chief” before I posted, because usually that denotes a true leader. What we have? not even close….

      • Len Jones

        God you can say that again.

      • Mike Lashewitz

        Criminal In Chief.

    • GomeznSA

      I’m late to this particular party but those you refer to as “our fellow Americans” are any thing but. They are elitists plain and simple and want to dominate the rest of us (but I suspect you already know that).

      • John Yossarian

        The elitists train their useful idiots – known today as “social justice warriors” – to bully and abuse us. White on white violence isn’t physical, like you see in ghetto cultures. It’s psychological-philosophical abuse, and it’s caused just as much self-damaging in its victims.

  • HKmaster

    I love that how despite the fact that the MG42 is over 70 years old, its still easily the “scariest” looking gun of the bunch. The Germans sure know how to make timeless designs!

    • Anonymoose

      They call it Hitler’s Buzzsaw for a reason.

      Also, iirc a few years ago they were selling Yugo MG42s (M53s) for like $3500.

      • Jim Halberson

        Sold! where can I buy one….LOL

    • gunsandrockets

      Used as a prop weapon in 1977 Star Wars. And completely unmodified at that.

  • A bearded being from beyond ti

    Why do more people think a pump action shotgun should be banned than an semi auto one?

    • Anonymoose

      Because Australia did it.

    • Rick O’Shay

      Because the sound a pump action shotgun makes when you rack it is scarrrrrryyyyyy…

    • rdude

      because it’s black 😀

    • DIR911911 .

      because it comes with shells already attached , that means it wants to kill

    • marathag

      The slide rack sound.
      It’s scary.
      EDIT- Ninja’d by @rdude

    • Because gun control advocates are terrified of blacks.

    • Cymond

      Because “Benelli Montefeltro” sounds refined and sophisticated, while “Mossberg 500” sounds scary. That’s further emphasized by the Benelli’s wood furniture and a nice blue as opposed to the Mossberg’s black plastic and simple finish.

      It was literally a survey based on appearance and name, so the results aren’t surprising.

      • A bearded being from beyond ti

        Mossberg just makes me think of sweden, which is nice since i am swedish.

        • Jim Halberson

          Swedish folk are awesome, it’s Sweden’s gun laws that are F’ed up my friend.

    • n0truscotsman

      because typical vox respondents have no effing clue what they’re talking about.

      For such an ill-informed crowd, they sure aren’t hesitant to pull their pants down and pontificate their viewpoint they mistakenly believe as ‘equally valid’.

      • A bearded being from beyond ti

        Typical anit-gunners usually have no idea what they’re talking about.

  • John Yossarian

    Here’s an idea of a follow-up survey, for the same group:

    “Imagine you’re at the Orlando nightclub or the San Bernardino office party when the Islamist terrorists begin shooting. Which of these weapons would you most like to have to defend yourself and fellow club-goers/co-workers?”

    “Imagine you live on a ranch and the police are on strike because they are being murdered by racist terrorists. A gang of the racists thugs has just broken down the gate and is coming for you and your family. Which of these weapons would you most like to have to defend your property?”

    • JumpIf NotZero

      You are forgetting that the gun is never the answer and killing is always wrong. Every life is precious (fallacy).

      The correct answer is CELL PHONE, and wait for the police to arrive three hours later.

      • rooftopvoter

        Exactly and they can chalk outline your body and mill around until the County ME gets there.

      • crackedlenses

        “Every life is precious”

        Except for your own when someone else is trying to take it from you. Then you have to let them kill you.

  • A.WChuck

    They find them all scary because they have been conditioned to find them scary.

    • Ondřej Turek

      That would be oversimplification. They find them scary because people are generically afraid of the unknown, and majority of city population has never seen a “black rifle” — with the notable exception of scary-looking Cops, intentionally scary-looking soldier in BDU (BDUs were tailored in WW1 to make the 17yrs old more menacing and robust) and über-scary-looking commandos and criminals in Holywood movies.

      On the other hand, much more people have seen a rifle in a wood furniture in the hands of a hunter etc.

  • RBK

    Somehow the AR-15 a bullet was loaded into the chamber by magically pulling back the front takedown pin vs the charging handle.

  • Walter Zaccagnini

    You no problem!? …vote Tramp!

    • Rousso

      Right!

      Trump them all

  • Rob Aught

    I love the irony that in most cases, except perhaps the Henry rifle, that the more likely a gun is to be used in a crime the more likely it was for it to be deemed “legal”

    When was the last time a real-life machinegun was used in a crime? When was the last time a LEGAL machinegun was used in a crime. I’m willing to extend that question beyond the M3 pictured in the survey.

    • legally nfa registered machine guns since nfa was enacted have only been used twice . illegal machine guns or illegally converted have been found in criminal possession or used in crimes a lot more but still less then one percent a year. still the preferred guns for criminals are cheap ones that get sold on the street for less then 50 bucks so sat night special handguns

      • jcitizen

        I’m behind the times – I knew a cop broke the law with an NFA registered weapon, when and what was the second instance – If you are talking about the armored car robbery, that was not a properly registered machine gun – the BATF really screwed up on that one!!

    • Steve Ippolito

      Chicago brobably back in the mob days LOL

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    “Flare guns should be illegal. I almost killed myself with one.”

    • John Yossarian

      “Don’t yooou, forget about me…”

  • Rock or Something

    Well, if looks can kill…

    I often heard this is how certain firearms ended up on the Federal 1994 “Assault Weapons” ban. Sen Feinstein and her colleagues would go through gun catalogs and arbitrarily ban firearms that looked bad.

    Personally, I find VOX articles to be generally less than enlightening.

    • A bearded being from beyond ti

      Isn’t that what happened to the Vz. 61?

  • Ryan

    Aw man I was gonna move so I could own an MG3, there goes that plan.
    Pesky hippy colonials ruining my devious plans.

  • Max

    While I know that VOX is full of 2nd Amendment deniers and are simply trying to support their irrational beliefs, it would have been more interesting if the had used firearms that use the same caliber and have just different cosmetics.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Yea, that definitely would not have fit the narrative tho.

  • Jim Drickamer

    Why do I need an assault rifle? At the time the Second Amendment was enacted, the government had muzzle loaders. Citizens could defend themselves against their own government if it became a tyranny with muzzle loaders. Today, the government has assault rifles. Citizens would not be able to defend themselves against a tyrannical government with muzzle loaders. They need their own assault rifles. Now, if the government was willing to go back to muzzle loaders, maybe we could talk.

    • Rousso

      Today, the government has Active Denial Systems and LRADs (Long Range Acoustic Device).

  • Vitsaus

    So… politics are cool now, or…?

  • CapeMorgan

    Frankly, I thought it was intellectually dishonest…that includes the “speed test” and the comments regarding muskets and the 2nd Amendment. I guess VOX is also comparing the Internet Age and the freedom of speech too. Unfortunately, they did demonstrate that the media has ingrained the thought of scary looking guns into the public consciousness.

  • Road

    “All of the information drawn from their survey should be taken lightly because we do not know what pool of individuals were surveyed…”

    Yes, it should be taken very, very lightly, which is to say, it should be taken as a joke. Vox has published plenty of rabidly anti-gun pieces, so I’ll go out on a limb here and say that the people who took the survey were very likely regular Vox readers, and predisposed to be anti-gun.

    This is like the New York Times survey that concluded 90% of Amercians support universal background checks, without ever revealing who exactly was polled. We’re supposed to just blindly assume that people of all political alignments and lifestyles were accurately represented.

    • Rousso

      Pokémon Go rapidly topped the American iOS App Store’s charts. Within
      two days of release, it was installed on more than 5% of Android devices
      in the United States, according to SimilarWeb. On July 12, the game
      became the most active mobile game in the United States ever with 21
      million active users.

      • Cymond

        Are you aware that this is a a blog about FIREARMS?

  • Jerry McBurney

    Vox you are not correct
    When the 2nd was written there was many many guns that could fire many rounds a minute

  • pieslapper

    But my AR is Hello Kitty, so not scary at all.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    You should also keep in mind that this is how a lot of jurors think. That’s why I’ve flirted with the idea of using a Ruger Mini-14 with wood furniture as my primary home defense gun. It has the same killing power of an AR-15 while looking a lot less scary. Frankly, I’m worried that if I ever have to use my FN SCAR, my CZ Scorpion EVO, my Colt LE6920, or my Arsenal SGL 21 (all of which have lots of tactical accessories on them – like red dot sights and vertical grips) for home defense, then some lawyer will place my gun on a table in front of the jury in order to make me look like a deranged gun nut that was looking for an excuse to kill someone. Ultimately, I decided not to worry about that too much because I would only pull the trigger if I knew that I was 100% justified in doing so. But this type of stuff makes me worried that I have too much faith in a jury’s ability to be rational.

    • milesfortis

      A trial depends on the prosecutor filing charges.

      If your self defense shoot is “righteous”; as in meeting all the points needed in your state to qualify as justifiable, and your narrative is consistent and conforms to the facts, the odds of you going to trial are slim.
      It’s also probable the prosecutor won’t even waste the time taking it to a Grand Jury.

      That being said, a person must study, know and understand their state’s laws and case law concerning self defense and self defense in general.

      More people put themselves into jail due to their own flapping mouths than by evidence.

    • Jim Halberson

      Lets hear it for the Ruger Mini-14 ranch rifle….. I’ve had one for decades. Make no mistake, I do love my AR’s but I will always have a soft spot for the Mini-14.

  • Edeco

    The hammer being back prolly counted against the 44 Magnum.

  • Ondřej Turek

    Have you noticed that in the “expert video on evil faster-reloading-than-2nd-amendment-muskete”, the AR-15’s bolt carrier is supposedly cycled by the front disassembly pin moving backwards through the upper receiver?

    Also, when the 2ndA was being written, unitary rounds in metal brass were already known, so the “2ndA only applies to muskets” argument is outright demagoguery.

  • OJS

    I think the scope and bi-pod on the Rem. 700 confused people- they could not figure out if those things made it ‘scary’ or not. Run it again without the scope and pod and I bet it gets glossed right back into “should be legal” territory.

  • Will

    “Scary” is a subjective term.
    What scares some is often times beautiful to others.
    I happen to thing the MG3 is a work of art.

  • C.

    I want an MG3.

  • IndyToddrick

    I’m sick of hearing the media say the AR-15 is “more accurate”. Compared to what? Compared to a pistol that’s what. It’s not more accurate than my .30-06, not by a long shot.

    • marathag

      More accurate from lower recoil.

      Go ahead, take a noob to firearms and have him blast a box of ’06 at a target at 100 yards, then wait for his shoulder to stop hurting, and then do the AR.

      I know which one I would put a better pattern in the paper.

  • The Allied Power

    5.76…?

  • UCSPanther

    Vox is a pathetic rag, along the same lines as Rolling Stone…

  • I’m real interested in that new calibre AR in 5.76mm…that right there is reason enough to ignore whatever Vox has to say about anything.

  • jerry young

    It looks like the majority who took this poll were either liberal nut jobs or liberal leaning pantywaists who need a safe place when some ones says a bad word, if the looks of a gun scares them so much that they want to ban it I wonder what their thought is on movies?

  • Thamuze Ulfrsson

    I have a vague hunch that “Vox” drew from the hipster-y crowd out of university towns.

  • 93fd3s

    Guess Vox has never seen Jerry Miculek shoot a revolver?? Was I the only one that thought that was painfully slow? Since when does an AR shoot a 5.76mm bullet and weren’t REAL revolutionary war era muskets shooting a 75mm musket ball, not 15mm? Are they aware that these days any projectile over .50 is classified as a destructive device and rather strictly regulated? If they can make these simple errors, why would I think they were any more careful with any other “data” they present? SMH!

  • Steve Ippolito

    Always love when people bring up “firearms of the time” when the 2nd amendment was written. They intended on civilians to be armed and be able to defend themselves with whatever the government has access too otherwise they would have put in restrictions. Notice it doesn’t say you aren’t allowed to own cannons – still a weapon/arm of the time.

  • Gary Kirk

    Where does this fit on the list??

  • Mancave Heywood

    Well then if that is the case I think that the fruit loop formally known as bruce jenner should be illegal, now that is scary!!!

  • bruce Cambell

    Someone should do the same survey again, but use a list of “functionally equivalent” rifles. For example, a black AR15, pink AR, kel tech SU16C, FDE Tavor , Ruger Mini 14 etc.

    • Bill

      I have a white AR. Does this mean that it is pure and angelic?

  • Jim Halberson

    Only 11% of the people who responded thought the MG3 should be legal??? Those 11% are now my best friends…LOL

  • Isaac Shelby Baker

    Ha ha ha… Where did Vox find enough beta cucks for this survey?

  • Bill

    And don’t forget, there is no Constitutional right to the Internet!

  • Bryan Munson

    “Without getting too political”
    Wait, WHAT!?!? An article about a Vox Gun banning poll that the author even says “…not surprising results, when you start to identify respondents by their political affiliation.”

    I am almost at a loss for words…. ALMOST.

    Seriously, we are neck deep in a fight for our rights and if the Witch gets elected all bets are off. I’m sure the author may be able to find work writing about the latest and greatest electrical car or other ‘neat’ gizmos if our gun rights disappear but where do we go to get our rights back. Our rights were not given to us by man nor can they be taken away without force, which the Witch has said she is in favor of, you know the Australian model.

    I will acknowledge that the first quote may have been a throw away line but it struck a raw nerve. Too many in the industry and shooting sports are sitting in the wagon letting a small portion of gun owners to the yeoman’s work. 100 million gun owners and less than 5% belong to the largest gun rights organization, which isn’t a perfect organization but neither are any of the others.

    • Mike Lashewitz

      Well said Brian!

  • otto burgess

    i went to look at cdc numbers concerning death in america. i think the numbers were from 2014, if i recall. i did several, back of the envelope calculations. two things stuck in my mind. one is that all firearm related death amounted to 1.2% of the total. if i recall it was 33,000-35,000. and medically related mistakes were just over 200,000! it seems to me that people have no logical perspective on this at all. i think also that car accident death, heart, lung, and cancer were very high. if people put their anti-gun efforts into those issues, more life would be saved than any gun control measure. just something to think about.

  • jcitizen

    We “tac-cool” guys have been doing it all wrong – we should immediately “camouflage” all our guns with fake wood veneer, so people won’t be so scairt!

  • Matt

    When the Constitution was written, citizens could own the same firearms as their government, a right which was lost in 1934 without a lot of paperwork and registration. Then in 1986 our govt effectively banned machine guns for all but wealthy folks. So the fact that muskets were the premier firearm when the Constitution was written is irrelevant, the founders were smart enough to know technology would progress. The objective was to equalize the population with their government. We are no longer equal in terms of capability. We have been reduced to arming ourselves with weapons that are not equal to our government. The way the Constitution was written as well as the 2nd Amendment says that citizens should be able to own firearms for any legal purpose to defend against any enemy foreign or domestic.

    This ad was obviously sponsored by the antis (libtards) and is quite skewed in its accuracy. I love how the revolvers fire really slowly in sequence while the semi autos fire super fast. Once again playing on people’s emotions and ignoring reality and true facts about gun ownership, concealed carry, and crime statistics.

    Sad thing is, the people that need to read these comments will never see them because they are on a pro gun website and will keep eating the lies of our liberal media.