Reports Of Gun Sales Surging Confirmed

NOOOOOOOO

It looks like Fox News is confirming that gun sales have increased dramatically. Reporter Nick Giampia interviewed gun store owner Jay Wallace about the recent surge where Wallace made the claim that they are selling more than 15 rifles per hour. Wallace was also quoted as saying sales have “really kicked up”.

Fox also reports in a separate article that sales among the LGBT community is also on the rise. Given the recent blow to the LGBT community I am really glad to see more people becoming interested in firearms. Fox also spoke with a national gun club with strong roots in the LGBT community, The Pink Pistols, who saw its membership more than double in one day.

TFB also checked with some of our sources in the industry and found that many distributors are running as much as a week behind in fulfilling dealer orders. We spoke with several large firearm retailer websites that have indicated that their order volume is between 3 and 7 times over the normal volume, with more than one expressing that they saw sales patterns very similar to this in 2008, 2012, and in 2015. One dealer even reported selling 7,000 AR-15s per day since Sunday, a massive increase over normal sales patterns.

The last several panics that have hit our industry hurt a lot of shooters both new and old financially and made getting out to the range a rather expensive prospect. Shooting in competition or even getting the ammo needed for testing firearms for TFB became almost impossible.

Could this be the start of a panic? I sure hope not but several of our industry sources think it may be.

Phil Note: Of course nobody can be sure we’re on the brink of another panic buying frenzy. One thing to keep in mind is every time we have a tragedy of the type seen in Orlando gun sales go up for s short time. Like Patrick I hope it doesn’t come to that again. At this point it doesn’t seem warranted.Only time will tell.



Patrick R

Patrick is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and works in the shooting sports industry. He is an avid recreational shooter and a verified gun nerd. With a lifelong passion for shooting, he has a love for all types of firearms, especially handguns and the AR-15 platform. Patrick may be contacted at tfbpatrick@gmail.com.

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Just say’n

    Guilty! Yes, I bought a gun on Monday (but I’d been planning on it for a few weeks prior).

  • Bill

    Of course we’ll have another panic. It’s what we do. Every. Single. Time. Whether it’s an election or a mass killing, it’s guaranteed.

    And I’d been saving my pennies for an MCX.

    • gunsandrockets

      When you live in a place like California, it isn’t panic it’s common sense. This year expect pressure from the large market in California to drive up prices nationwide.

    • Major Tom

      And I was planning on buying a shotgun and/or pistol this month. They were having some really good deals on shotguns at Big 5 Sporting Goods in Colorado. Last week they had a Mossberg Maverick 88 for 200 bucks.

      • Big Daddy

        Go for a few bucks more and get a moss 500 or rem 870.

        • Major Tom

          ^ They did have a 500 in roughly the same configuration for about 350 bucks.

          I had figured the Maverick would be a cheap shoot-it-til-it-breaks-if-I-got-200-bucks-of-ammo-through-it-good type weapon. But I never got around to getting it. Probably will look into the 500 instead. 870s are bloody expensive in my neck of the woods.

          • Big Daddy

            They both have their good and bad points but for the money they are worth paying a few bucks more for. I prefer the 500 but the 870 is a little more heavy duty and is easy to install extended magazine tubes. I have had both in different configurations and now just have a pretty much stock 500, although it came in multicam, it looks great. I am going to get some Spitfire sights for it but they are a bit pricey.

          • Remington reintroduced the 870 with the wood stocks. That one has an MSRP of $350 street price $275—$300. Extended mag etc.

          • Bill

            Second the 500. While the 870 may have a little more sophisticated manufacturing, the safety and the action release on the 500 are far better ergonomically for a fighting shotgun. The Mossberg ghost ring sights are eminently usable also, at a very reasonable price.

            I can choose between and Benelli, 870 and 500 when I’m headed out for work, and invariably grab the 500.

          • Solace Greer

            Still, the 870 is one beast of a shotgun.

      • Mavericks are made in Mexico from the cheapest possible steel and have a delightful tendency to self-disassemble with great enthusiasm. Spend the extra money on a 500 instead of medical bills.

    • Solace Greer

      Funny, I am seriously thinking about selling my piston driven faxxon arak21 for a nutty price while the hype is burning up supply. If I could sell it to an over eager buyer, I could turn a profit building another one later when things are normal again.

    • Squrrily

      Yeah and elections and mass killings fall into the same category. I think you can find a better way to get the point across. Mass killings mean a little more. Especially when you lose a loved one. It’s not just being “PC” to be a caring person.

  • Raptor

    I was at the range/gun shop this past Tuesday, and while it was definitely a lot more crowded than a typical weekday, it certainly didn’t look anything like back in 2012-2013. And the focus seemed to be exclusively on subcompact carry pistols rather than “Evil Black Rifles.” And most customers (including one couple who bought matching “His-and-His” S&W Shields) were picking the salesmen’s brains about how to get CCW permits and where to go for training.

    That said, I’ll be visiting a local FFL next week to inquire about ordering an AR lower. This is a long-planned purchase, but finances forced me to delay until now. Definitely going to get one before November: *THAT* is when I expect the real panic to start.

  • Joe Moore

    Just bought two stripped lowers on sale. Other than that, no. But I do really need some target .45, 9mm, and M855, completely unrelated to this panic. Hopefully I can get some.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Sadly, its probably only a matter of time before AR’s and the like are outlawed.

    • Bill

      I’m not seeing it in my Magic 8-Ball. The push for barring purchases by those already on the dubious no-fly list on the part of the antis could be read as a capitulation and acknowledgement that another AWB is unrealistic. I’m also too lazy to open a calendar app or look up the data, but I seem to recall that the AR boom actually started well after the sunset of the AWB, which could indicate that the increase in sales wasn’t driven by the legal availability of new features, but more by new features driven by advances in tech after 9/11.

      • McThag

        The real surge was when Obama started looking like a sure thing. Even a couple months before that everything was readily available.

        • Bill

          I believe you are exactly right. I was likely thinking of the craze for all things “tactical” that seemed to correlate with the last bunch of wars.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Well I certainly hope im wrong but if these f-ckheads keep it up with these mass shootings I think the unarmed, uneducated public will demand action.

        Every time ISIS claims responsibility for one of these nutjobs ( even though he probably had nothing to do with them) we should send in an airstrike.

        • Bill

          I think we do. Trump conveniently forgets the rate at which Obama has been drone-smoking bad guys.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Thats true but I think he should announce it.

            “In retaliation for the recent mass shooting we have targeted Raghead #2” or whatever.

          • Just Sayin’

            LOL!!

          • Sulaco

            Maybe he’s not counting the six US citizens he (Obama) ordered killed by drone, no charges, warrant. And his ROE veto’s 9 out of 10 launched air strikes in the battle zone…

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Screw them.
            You fly to Syria and pick up a weapon you’re fair game. This isn’t a convenience store robbery this is war.

          • Sulaco

            They were admittedly propagandists for the TallyBan and were doing on line writing and doing dvd’s. There was and is not now any evidence they ever took part in hostilities. One of those killed was by Obamas order a 16 year old boy son of one of Obama’s targets. Say what you wish about killing our enemies but the POUS ordering the extra judicial murders of American citizens without warrant or charge for exercising 1st amendment rights? You support that?

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I agree it’s a grey area but that “kid” wasn’t killed in Maryland. I believe he was killed in Syria and thefact that these people are cowards who hide behind women and children is not our fault. His kid died because his father didn’t have the balls to stand up and fight a regular army.
            The kid vowed an oath to a terror group, flew over to support them and died.
            I got no sympathy.

          • Sulaco

            No declared war, no hostilities in action and the POUS ordering individual citizens killed for any reason? No, perversion of the office. Miss them He(* no. But Obama deciding he can kill anyone he wants for any reason he wants, nightmare time.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            How do you declare war on a stateless group? Only congress can do that.
            The rules have changed.
            They’ve declared war on us.
            After what’s happened recently if you go on n Facebook and declare allegiance to Isis or hezbollah or the great pumpkin you are subject to death.

          • Bill

            So doing psyops for our enemies is less heinous than picking up a gun? Producing the propaganda that radicalizes guys like Mateen and Nidal?

            The First Amendment applies in the USA, not Syria, Afghanistan or Yemen. US citizen or not, your rights end at the special maritime and geographical limits of the States.

          • Sulaco

            Oh Hell no! The Constitution applies to US citizens not the country and does not stop at the border. To say other wise is an over throw of 200 + years of law and custom.

          • Bill

            Are you high? When you travel out of the US or any of its territories you fall under the laws of the country you are in.

            Go to Singapore and spit on the sidewalk, see if the authorities apply the Constitution and BOR before caning your ass. Or test out the application of the 4th and 14 Amendments in Mexico when they decide you’re smuggling drugs and take a concrete saw to your car, without a warrant.

            Good luck. That’s what you’ll hear from Consular staff if you commit a crime overseas.

          • Sulaco

            That’s true but only insofar as dealing with other governments, if you are arrested and turned over to US LE or in custody of US authorities in another country you have the full guarantee of your civil rights in dealing with them. NO ONE was saying that other countries governments have to or do car about the Constitution if you were listening you would know the discussion was about treatment by the US Gov. Or are supposed to have your civil rights unless Obama wants to order you killed…you may lapse back into arrogant daze now. Too much politics done.

          • Anthony Rosetta

            16 year old extremest grow up to be 28 year old extremest! The Boston bombers, didn’t care about that child that was killed, did they?

          • Sulaco

            So you believe and support that the POTUS has summary power of execution against everyone in the world at his (or god forfend) her whim?

          • Anthony Rosetta

            If an American citizen goes over to the enemy, I believe the President has the power to kill that SOB, before he kills us. These terrorist are not playing a game, they’re serious about destroying us.

          • Sulaco

            Please show me where in the Constitution or ANY Federal law that gives the chief “administrator” the power to order the summary execution of any citizen without trial, warrant or charge even under war time statues. If you truly believe Obama and Hildabeast (who will order executions without number or reason to fit her insanity) is a legal or even moral concept this nation as a nation of free people under the law is fu*&ked. Enjoy your death at the hands of the government for any reason they like at anytime they like.

          • Sulaco

            Show me the power in the Constitution or Federal Law that allows POTUS order the summary execution of anyone. He has declared white, Christian, vets and gun owners as terrorists and enemies of the state. Sleep well.

          • Sulaco

            Well apparently the editor of this blog agrees with you and will not allow a response. Censorship thy name is TFB

          • Bill

            You don’t need charges or a warrant to ding a bad guy regardless of nationality who is working at murdering good guys. It’s self-defense on a macro scale.

          • Sulaco

            UN, DOJ, DOD and Laws of war army lawyers would say different…unless it’s Obamaie

          • Tritro29

            With huge collateral cost…Remember that no door knocking policy in the Caucasus debate? Well…

          • Bill

            Huge as in Dresden fire bombing huge? Nagasaki and Hiroshima huge? Agent Orange huge. Average terrorist emplaced VBIED huge?

            Sure, no weapons system or targeting system is 100% perfect, but given that we can put a Hellfire through a selected window, that “huge” collateral damage is huge like Donald Drumpf’s hands.

          • Tritro29

            Oh so now you’re comparing mass murder and saying that it’s ok to randomly kill bystanders and innocents, because it’s still less than those events?

            Also, the “culling” policy didn’t work for your former president in both Iraq and Afghanistan, what makes you think it is a good thing, disregarding the successes or failures of your current President.

            We’ve been there, done that, “culling” doesn’t work. And we didn’t have Pakistan as an “ally”.

          • Bill

            It’s not “OK” to kill innocents but it is a natural consequence of war, and we’ve certainly improved targeting to the point where collateral victims are not the norm.

            War is bad, innocent people get killed, but it isn’t the worst and we have reduced the risk of collateral damage and killings to the point where we aren’t taking shots we are legally, morally and ethically justified in taking.

          • Tritro29

            Once again, it’s clearly the point I was making at the other thread. However, collateral damage is abysmally bad as far as drones and knock knock teams are concerned. This has to do with your “kill chain”, not with your ability to kill with precision.

          • Bill

            How many other nations need the direct authorization of their Chief Executive, whose decision is based on multiple inputs from different agencies, to launch a missile? Our kill chain is pretty taut; again to the point were we let high-value targets slip away if the risk of collateral damage is perceived as being too high.

            Collateral damage from drones is no better or worse than that from manned aircraft or from direct action on the ground. Does have been demonized solely on the seating location of the pilot and weapons operators.

          • Tritro29

            … I count about 45 at least.

            Your kill chain is actually the weakest link here, you have too many targets, not enough analysts, very poor HUMINT since the Surge in Afghanistan. You have almost no HUMINT exchange with Pakistan since Abbottabad and you rely massively on ELINT. Haymaker which is the one op we know almost perfectly now, was a collateral fiasco. But that’s a normal price to pay for not having your people in harms way.

            All those make the kill chain very shaky and expansive. And create the conditions for an easier recruitment from the Taliban.

          • Bill

            We’re going to have to agree to disagree. We lack HUMINT assets due to the cultural and language divide, plus the clan-heavy social structure of the multiple theaters involved. I doubt we WANT intel from Pakistan, as pretty much all of it has been of questionable value, if not flat out disinformation and they don’t even control the Tribal Regions that are of most interest to us. No Western or Central Asian nation has effective collectors in those areas. We excel at SIGINT and ELINT and given our adversary’s reliance on electronic communications it’s arguably the most valuable anyway.

            I would contend that strike orders shouldn’t have to travel to the White House, Joint Chiefs, State Department and Intel Community before approval, but that theater commanders be permitted to assess intel, fix and finish in a timely fashion. We have checks and balances that actually inhibit missions with too many competing agencies and analysts. It’s far better than it’s been in the past, but it still takes hours and an Executive Order to flip a switch.

          • Tritro29

            I’d say that until 2010, Pakistani military was the number one HUMINT provider for decapitation operations. Was it politically motivated? Yes. Was it partial and fragmented? Yes. Was it false? Absolutely not. Without Pakistan half the supply chain wouldn’t exist in Afghanistan. And you would have had to rely on Central Asian nations that are walking a tight rope between you and us.

            Intelligence is not about control, is about knowledge. If you think that Taliban rely on complex communication systems, you’re wrong. That’s why the kill chain is that expansive, because at one point you get stuck with a wide array of targets, which you usually pick up to die. “Better be sure and kill every one”. That’s a costly process, that even the FSB had abandoned after the Second Chechen war. Ironically, the US best assets on the ground are the same guys that are deemed useless, mainly the ANP and ANA. That creates yet another rift which culminates with the string of “turned guys” who fire on US troops that mentor them.

          • L Cavendish

            many THOUSANDS of innocent victims…along with SUSPECTED terrorists…but whatever…

          • The Osprey

            He can “drone-smoke” bad guys in the ME until the cows come home and it is not going to make us any safer if they keep allowing Muslims into the country. I don’t care how “moderate” they are, it just provides cover for the jihadists. Islam does not belong in the West.

          • Bill

            You are wrong and that position runs counter to the American ideals of religious freedom, but you’ll keep believing what the reactionaries tell you to believe.

          • L Cavendish

            as long as you are ok with us buying and owning guns…
            not all muslims are terrorists…just as not all gun owners are future murderers
            so no banning either one…RIGHT???

          • Bill

            Exactly.

        • Swarf

          And that’s exactly right. People want “action”.

          Wrong-headed, misguided, malicious, ineffectual punishment of innocents? Don’t care, as long as it’s “action” and it makes the “feel” safer.

          Just like the TSA. Hell, the TSA will probably lead the confiscation effort.

          • n0truscotsman

            Thats what has been infuriating about this whole thing. Over the past days since sunday, I have seen proposed measures by both sides to infringe upon the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and other amendments.

            The stupid is strong.

        • The Osprey

          More airstrikes in the middle east is not going to make us more secure if our government keeps allowing Muslims into the country. I’m fed up with both Bush and Obama policies. Trump is right, we need to stop letting them into the country.

    • Edeco

      Gasp. Bite the finger or fingers you used to type that!

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I know, but never underestimate the stupidity of the average American.

        • d

          Stupidity is the reason we go the obamanation, twice.

          • d

            got

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Say what you will but Obama hasn’t curtailed gun rights in any meaningful way. Hilary is going to make Obama look like Reagan.
            And trump is going to make us a laughingstock.

      • Anthony Rosetta

        You’re right, they’ll outlaw our printers next!

    • Pistolero

      At the least you can say goodbye to mags over 10 rounds…Thereby defeating the purpose and spirit of the 2nd Amendment

      • Stan Darsh

        If that happens, then thank God for 3-D printers.

      • L Cavendish

        tens of millions already out there…maybe billions

  • spencer60

    Mini-panic.

    So long as the Congressional things fall flat and there arne’t any copycats, it should be good again in a few weeks.

    • Bill

      And that’s just in time for the election. To steal a line from the movie “Gremlins,” it’ll be a good idea to invest in bottled water and shotguns.

    • Anthony Rosetta

      Spencer60
      Don’t get to comfortable, the left’s mouth’s starts watering every time there’s a mass killing. There will be copycats in the future, because they can’t all be weeded out. There’s nutcases everywhere, we just have to have eyes in the back of our heads. “Gun Free Zone” signs are a baited hook to these idiots. They want their 5 minutes of fame, even if it kills them. It’s a different world out there today!

  • Brian Hert

    Sales at local shops were higher than normal, employees were commenting when I was there. I’ll admit to having contributed but it was because of Father’s Day weekend sale prices not the recent incident.

  • KestrelBike

    I splurged on ammo for the range for all throughout next year. By the time this mini-panic ends, it’ll be 2016 election panic. No sense waiting until then, not to mention the price jumped $0.02/rd for .223 from the day before until the morning I ordered.

  • Edeco

    Woo, another panic. Alright chums, let’s do this!

    • Bill

      Gunshops will look like a battle scene from Braveheart!

  • john huscio

    Much ado over nothing…….the terror watchlist ban might have a shot, but no AWB will get through.

    • Risky

      “…but no AWB will get through.” <- This year. Next year I'd put the odds at 50%.

    • ARCNA442

      I’m inclined to agree with you, but we must remain vigilant and vocal because the anti gunners will be trying their best.

      Contact your congressmen and make sure they know where you stand. If you don’t want to spend time on it, Google “NRA Take Action” and they will find the addresses of your congressmen and send a brief message for you.

    • Sulaco

      And in IMHO will be shot to pieces by the first court it is taken to…

    • The Second Amendment ain’t the only one in the Bill Of Rights, and I’m kindasorta fond of things like “due process” and “free speech”.

    • Pistolero

      How exactly do you get on a terror watch list? How do you know you’re on it, and how can you get off of it? There is clearly the potential for abuse of power. Next thing you know all gun buyers will be terror suspects, denied their second amendment rights.

      • Blackhawk

        Apparently the “how to get on it” guidelines are secret, so anything listed online is mostly just speculation. You know you’re on it when you get pulled aside by the TSA, and you really don’t get off of the list unless you know important people or have the money to pay a lawyer for the few years it has taken some people to get off the list.

        • Sam Adams

          The late Sen Ted Kennedy found himself on the no fly list and even with his connections, it took him months, nearly a year to get his name off it.

      • Gary Kirk

        As soon as Hillary gets in the NRA will be labeled a terrorist organization.. Then anyone ever connected to them is done..

  • gunsandrockets

    And once again, the fleet footed free marketplace dances rings around the clumsy legislative process!

  • gunsandrockets

    To many of those annoyed by the panic, look at it as a golden opportunity to sell. Now is the time to clean out those items which you don’t want anymore.

    • Cymond

      I know I’ll be hated for this, but I’ve been sitting on an SKS, Mosin-Nagant, and 2 AR uppers for exactly that reason. I’ve been planning to sell them in September or October.

  • Harry’s Holsters

    I’m all for getting LGBTs into guns. It’s sad that it took this to happen.

    • Big Daddy

      Let all people embrace the freedom of America. The freedom to protect yourself.

      • Tritro29

        Having more armed people with a paranoid mindset isn’t going to help safety or freedom. I know this first hand. But in Rome etc…

        • Big Daddy

          This is America and is unlike any other civilization, don’t sell it short. Yes there are similarities to Rome and Greece, only due to human nature. But our concept of freedom and laws are unprecedented in history. I have faith in it and the second amendment, that insures we are free and protected. Everyone should be armed and trained, let them tremble in fear at our strength. Remember an armed society is a polite society. In New York City people think nothing of getting in your face, robbing you or your home, the people have no way to defend themselves and are prosecuted if they do. In Texas people are more polite and careful, just about everybody here is armed. I know the difference having lived in both places, 56 years in NYC, I’ll stay here in Texas for the rest of my life shooting my guns in bliss. I refuse to be a victim.

          • Bill

            Compare NYC’s crime rate against those in Dallas and Houston.

          • Big Daddy

            Actually you cannot believe the statistics. I knew people in the NYPD and they changed the way crimes are reported to look lower because they had to report it to the FBI. The police commissioner in Atlanta was falsifying information to the FBI as far as I remember as well as many cities in the US. I do not trust our government to tell us the truth about anything or make any honest anything. Obama had the CDC look into gun violence and they found between 1 million and 3.5 million crimes a year are stopped just because the person drew his handgun. We don’t hear anything about that from our government and guess who paid for it? The taxpayer.

          • Tritro29

            As I don’t want to derail this thread i will only say this, you’re not a special cookie. I’m from Russia. Armed populace, we’ve had. Private armies, we’ve had. Complete “Private” Mechanized Corps roaming the streets of Moscow we’ve had. You don’t know what an armed society is, if you knew, you’d look for social peace, not arming people. What you meant to say is that in your streets, there’s food, order, regular supply (to the point of overconsumption), draw down on jobs, food and supplies and what you see as an armed self-regulation is going to turn around and bite you.
            Case in Point, your “Ghettos”.
            However we’re talking about what I see as a deviant group (deviant to the norm) arming itself to defend itself from prejudice…like Afro-Americans arming themselves in the 50’s and 60’s… Do you happen to see what’s going to happen? Switch it to Muslims now, what will happen?
            The US is an older Republic than Russia, but and younger society and social complex; basically there’s always more to come and life tends to really hate ideology, we should know in Russia.

          • Big Daddy

            An armed free society with a constitution based on laws is different. It’s culture of an American as much as it is the laws.

            I am part Russian, Ukrainian & Polish.

          • Tritro29

            And armed free society is an oxymoron, the only such society is what happens in Israel, HARDLY an example and hardly the case in the US.
            Switzerland has the embodiment of the “armed and trained” militia. A totally different paradigm when compared to the US.

          • truthsayer

            Israel “free”? Free for whom?

          • Tritro29

            For those who bear arms. You need more explaining?

          • truthsayer

            I see, “Free” for the occupiers and overlords.

          • Tritro29

            Isn’t this what the pro-gun people are pointing at? Guns=Freedom?

          • truthsayer

            Not free for gentiles in “Israel.”

          • Tritro29

            So guns don’t guarantee freedom, is that what you’re saying?

          • truthsayer

            How “free” is the USA?

          • Most of the housing projects or ghettos as you stated are being closed and torn down. The city I worked in had three housing projects and all three have been bulldozed in favor of new types of subsidized housing.

          • Tritro29

            The issue remains. Have a healthy social fabric with guns and guns will not be that much of a problem and an unhealthy with guns and the results are going to be catastrophic.

            That was the message.

          • Ben Pottinger

            Not to rehash what’s already been said but Russia != USA. Russians still tend to see themselves as an ethnic group (ie, Russians) while the US is more of a random mixing pot. We don’t have old borders or ethnic lines to fall back into like most of Europe does.

            As for your other comments, once again, the USA != to Russia. Russia has a long history of strong abusive central government and the people of Russia seem to covet power of freedom. A number of recent surveys have shown the Russian people would much prefer a strong and powerful Russia to a weaker but free Russia. Putin pretty much embodies that line of thinking.

            The typical US mindset is pretty different, regardless if its a urban liberal or rural republican.

            I don’t say that to disparage the Russian people, just to point out the drastic differences between them and the USA.

          • Tritro29

            Are you sure about it? Because the recent US Presidential campaign is clearly a sign that ETHNICITY is being pushed forward. Also we don’t see ourselves as and ethnicity, I served with a group of people as ethnically diverse as any US Regiment/Brigade. In my company I had at least 12 different ethnicities (including Pontic Greeks).

            When people say that Country X is different from Country Y, they don’t understand where the difference stands. In this debate, I think the US is yet to understand what ethnicity is. The UK for instance has a far broader community reach than the US where people tend to get along with the “melting pot”. You think you don’t have ethnic lines, yet your Republican candidate keeps attacking those lines.

            Ironically, our “only candidate” goes directly against that. Russians aren’t an ethnicity publically, they’re a people. Worse, some of the debates that happen in the US have zero chance of going on in Russia, despite a church revival.

            You should stop thinking that for some reason, Russians are natural born slaves, while Americans are natural born rebels. Facts tend to point to the contrary. We’ve fought, limited and changed systems more times in the last 150 years than the US would even dream of. If that’s a sign of mental freedom then probably we’re quite the free people. As for strong abusive governments, Ironically it’s the quite the contrary, we’ve had weak and incompetent governments that allowed local graft and corruption from local power groups.

            Putin embodied not as much power and strength than competence and efficiency. There’s something about Americans when it comes to Russia, you seem to misunderstand everything.

          • Bill

            I’ll differ to those who live in the Russia, but “Russia” has as many, if not more ethnicity as the States, as evidenced buy the splintering off of nation-states after the USSR dissolved. The country covers something like 7 time zones

            I’m not thinking there’s much difference between a Putin and a Trump, except one actually knows what he’s talking about.

          • Anthony Rosetta

            BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Geoff

          Being prepared and able to defend oneself is not paranoia. It’s just common sense and self-preservation.

          • Tritro29

            LGBT people have a chip on their should the size of the moon. We’re not talking your average people (although what you call preppers in the US are “strange” to me), we’re talking about people whose mental image is completely lopsided. Armed minority groups with different moral tenents are always problematic.

          • RocketScientist

            Ahhhh, your true nature comes out: “Armed minority groups with different moral tenents are always problematic.”.

            GTFO with that s**t. What’s your metric for determining a minority? and What determines if their moral “tenants” (I assume you actually meant tenets?) are different enough to warrant restriction of their rights and freedoms? Thats some dangerous thinking right there.

          • Tritro29

            1. I’ve never expressed hate or rejection towards the LGBT community.
            2. They have an issue with the norm. This doesn’t mean they need to conform, but they feel discriminated.
            3. They are a minority, because if they were a majority, same sex issues (adoption, sex change, marriage) wouldn’t be a problem.
            4. Their morality is that you can alter the norm, which in no way is tantamount to “evil” , but it is a transgression, accepted, tolerated or not.
            5. After an horrible event like the terrorist attack on their community, arming up is not a solution.
            6. This was the crime of a minority on a minority.
            7. Your faux outrage indicates that you don’t want to discuss the issue or overreaction towards violence. But you find a figleaf about “same sex, LGBT issues”. Which aren’t my point.

          • Kevin

            while I don’t completely agree with you Tritro, very well thought out and presented answer.

          • Squrrily

            Big talk from someone who more than likely ever served this country Dangerous talk!

          • Tritro29

            I served my country and we still have latent armed conflicts within minorities we need to quell with brigades of troops. Frankly, from someone who hates bigots you got a big fat bigot sign on your porch. Ignorance is strong on you.

          • Squrrily

            FU A..HOLE

          • Tritro29

            Your line of reasoning confirms my previous post.

          • Squrrily

            Like I said…..contact your local mental health services before you do something you will regret…… very sick indeed

          • Squrrily

            Get mental health counseling,. you are seriously ill

          • Drake_Burrwood

            What would have made a difference was arming up the designated drivers.

          • Edeco

            I don’t know that I agree about the shoulder chip. Hasn’t been my experience, not a big, raging chip anyway. A modest sized, civil chip perhaps. But in any case there’s nothing more fundamentally American than a shoulder chip. It’s not in and of itself a thing to be feared.

          • Tritro29

            Deviants in America have always been difficult to qualify. TransGender people are probably the weakest link in your argument about civil chip. Psychologically unfit for their body, they’re nothing less but walking trauma.

            The perpetrator himself seems to have been an frequent patron at the Pulse. This only underscores the issues posed by minorities. This guy was a minority in a a minority. A gay self-hating Muslim (or a self-hating gay Muslim). The rest is even more messed up.

            He’s the embodiment of issues minorities pose to the overwhelming majority of people.

            If the shoulder chip is fundamentally American, then mass killings with firearms seem to be so too. Not only that but intolerance about “equal” rights, is clearly less problematic when the LGBT community is concerned, than religious differences.

            If anything, this guy is exactly why minorities need either to be embraced or ostracised, but surely not ignored.

            Before i get yet another misunderstanding, this isn’t some witch hunt about minorities, just a caution against people who see this as a kind of coming of age for LGBT community regarding the firearm issue.

          • truthsayer

            Boasting “pride” that “most pedophiles are heterosexual,” the homosexual 1% perpetrates 47% of sexual assaults on minors. On average then, homosexuals are almost 50 times as dangerous to children than normal people.

          • Squrrily

            You are a prime example of someone who should have no right to gun ownership….. Just a heads up, you should also get some mental health counseling because you have serious problems

          • Squrrily

            “Different moral tenants”? Why not just say what you mean which is they may not be guided by a paranoia of the government. They may not believe in the notion that citizens need weapons equal to those carried by our military. Does anyone really believe a band of armed buttons could possibly stand against the U.S. military? I was raised with the notion that guns were for hunting and if needed self defense. I responded because I don’t like bigots and you seem to be in that category. You sir are the reasonnI keep an assault rifle. Your mindset is exactly what gun banners are scared of.

          • Tritro29

            Ok big chief. So part of the “people” who arm just after a mass shooting are directly under the influence of the said shooting. They arm because there was a shooting.

            You have 2 issues.

            1. These people don’t trust the Government to protect them (which is the biggest part of the Social Contract) and clearly that’s part of the Chip on the shoulder.
            2. Two they arm in a very precarious and hasty way and in no way they do achieve their initial goal that was to prepare or protect themselves from such attacks.

            Then, they have different moral tenets.

            TG

            1. They don’t believe in the norm that marriage is for a man and woman. And that’s their right.
            2. They don’t believe that the fact and natural selection has put their “egos” in a specific human form with a sexual shape and function. That might be their right but entails a profound change in their physical appearance and functions that DO NOT come without permanent damage to their psychological balance. Balance that is in MOST cases very fragile.
            3. They do not believe that natural selection and sexuality are facts in most cases. Bluntly put having a pe*** or a vag*** is to them a mere choice. That is a different moral tenet. And a psychological issue not different from many forms of Trauma.

            If you think this is bigotry, you have to explain to me how objective observation can be trumped by a subjective choice in these VERY specific cases.

            Gays:

            Here the deviance is more subtle and more accepted within a part of the world, but still an issue.

            However the moral tenet in this case is clearly an over-inflation of a specific and extreme case of killings that in reverse will blow back on common violence and hate-crimes.

            Because some self-hating gay Muslim went out and shot half a hundred gay people, now the gays might very well feel threatened by a simple altercation in the street that has or has not a sexual under-lining. Ergo that’s fuel to paranoia. Paranoia is a fuel to arming of the community. Arming of the community is a testament of a self-induced pariah sentiment and a slow but certain break up with the law enforcing agencies. When and Where people arm themselves the legal force has either given up or is unable to provide security. That’s as old as the State System.

            Now just logical issue here.

            I’m the reason you keep an instrument of warfare that was meant for assaulting heavily defended positions in zones of open conflict (see Syria or Ukraine for instance) for “hunting” or “self defense”, but I’m so evil and frightening that I make gun “banners” scared. So they want to … arm themselves?

            Guess what your line of thinking is the reason why the US has the issues it has in relation with gun violence. Because nothing says more self-defense than getting shot in a night club because DeQuain (or Aaron), half drunk, thought that you were looking LaTashiqua (or Joleene) way too much for a honest pilgrim.

            O tempora, O mores.

          • Squrrily

            After you become stabilized mentally, perhaps you could join the Salvation Army. I heard they are looking for a General. Might be your only chance for an officer position. You could strap on your sidearm and run the kettle at Christmas. Hell, you might even get a chance to bust a cap in a homeless bum.

          • Tritro29

            It’s the 5th/6th comment that you use a trigger element (me=insane) which is both arbitrary and authoritative. This autistic manner of denying dialogue is a staple of police interrogation. So which part of the interrogation process were you part? The perp or the officer. In both cases it shows a very distorted and rigid way of confronting a different view.
            In few words it’s exactly what you accuse me of doing. It even reminds me of our own authorities, here in Soviet Unoin back in the day when dissent and disagreement was a mental condition.
            I guess squirrels and nuts are hard to separate.

          • Squrrily

            Take it from ME…..you should definitely jump into the NUT basket

          • Tritro29

            Still not a single intelligent element in your answers. If I’ve not been triggered after the first few non-sense replies, you should change your plan, because you’re going nowhere with it.

          • L Cavendish

            so where are you?

          • Squrrily

            He is still in the closet

          • Squrrily

            WOW, please don’t advise upon ” mental image”..at least until you see a psychiatrist, you are ill

          • Tritro29

            Ad hominem again, you should try and attack the argument for a change.

        • n0truscotsman

          I actually agree with you.

          Paranoia in many forms is not the answer, and neither is ridiculous discrimination/profiling against certain people.

          Realistically, buying a bunch of guns and ammo isn’t going to “solve” the problem either, since that ‘problem’ is extremely unlikely, statistically speaking. Of course, I support people who elect to buy a gun, get a concealed permit, and get training.

          A type of apocalyptic overreaction is exactly what Daesh wants and is begging the US to get entangled in.

          • Salty

            They don’t have to be paranoid to buy a gun… Folks buy guns for all kinds of reasons, so I don’t give two Fs what gets em into the “sensible” side of the house. So by that logic you should cancel all your insurance cause you’re probably not gonna need it…

            I think you’re not trying to dog on this being the impetus it just sounds like your are.

            Folks just want to do something at a time like this. And banning Muslims or guns isn’t the answer, so this is the kind of only logical place to turn with your anxious energy…. Why wouldn’t we want the ranks of logical gun owners to swell?

          • Tritro29

            It has nothing to do with insurance policies. You can have people with guns as much as you want they will not always be there or able to protect themselves. It’s not about guns, it’s about social control. To avoid this kind of events, there are only two possibilities.

            The widest control on population (which slowly is coming- CCTV, Records everywhere, slowly but surely getting rid of non-nominal payment means etc etc etc).

            Or and ultra-violent society with a compulsory armed population.

            Pick your poison.

          • David Harmon

            This idea is that people need to be controlled is why there are violent outbreaks.

          • Tritro29

            Sure explain me why you have a police force and why it is the least dangerous solution control wise? Because Without control there is no “Freedom”. If there’s no one to abide by “laws, regulations, pacts, contracts” you can’t have private property, marriage, children, heritage etc. This Natural Law/Freedom bull is being disproved day after day in every corner of the universe (yeah even gravity is against you) and then you guys go all for broke with confabulations.

            Fact, the most regulated societies in this world have the most peaceful mores and the highest Democratic Values. They’re dull as hell and no good places for most humans, but they’re the actual proof that control and self control are the way to peace, not armed passive/active confrontation. Which is in the same time just another, more violent form of control.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            You may glory of the basic evil of all persons. I’ve carried arms as a civilian my whole adult life. And I have known that a true weapons master has peace in their heart.

          • Tritro29

            … Yes and we all live in a LaLaLand. Fact is there’s very few reasons to master a craft without the explicit intention of using it. Even remote and obscure foreign languages. Let alone specific trades like military marksmanship and gunsmith craft.

            There’s always a purpose behind an intention. Sometimes it’s an unconscious purpose, without an evil intention. Yet intention isn’t the action most of the time.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            Which of course means you are not silly enough to learn to use a fire extinguisher, CPR, or many other things you are unlikely to ever need but might cause deaths by not knowing.

          • Tritro29

            Uhum, its funny, because that goes exactly in my direction. Learning trades not meant to be used all of them…

            I think you should read my post again; you’ll understand what it hints at.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            True the action is training, if well trained the responce will often come before thought of responce. Intent made into habit.

          • Tritro29

            Training to do what? Stopping mass shootings? How?

            Like for most terrorist attacks, these actions are best stopped before they happen. Once the carnage is in motion, there’s not much to do. And “first responders” might as well mistake a self defending citizen with an actual perpetrator.

            There’s a reason why there is a “law enforcement force”.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            There is no honor in a terrorist attack. The easiest if possible is a triple tap from behind, two in the back, once to the head (in case the active shooter actually, finally really does have a bullet resistive vest.)

            Oddly the current numbers disagree with you. Since 98% of such shootings take place in firearm restricted sites it turns out most are stopped by unarmed counter attacks. Next is armed citizens, but those don’t show up in most mass shooting numbers because the active shooter is taken before the designated limit of four mortal wounds is reached. Next is a single officer responding alone. That used to be the altimeter No-No until the LEO community realized how many people this killed in an active shooter situation. Last and definitely least effective by the numbers is the mass police response.

            I have said it before and will say it again. If I have my gun drawn in an active shooter situation, and you shoot me before I get to the active shooter. You have my blessing, I look like a grizzled old wolf. If you mistake me for a Jackel in the confusion, it doesn’t Matter if you are LEO, Security, or an armed private citizen, all I ask is that you take down the active shooter as well. My life and health is not worth the lives and health of those un&disarmed persons facing backwards and soon to be lost to this blood predator.

          • Bill

            The gun as talisman against evil syndrome.

            I wonder what the motor vehicle death toll was that weekend.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            Why do you think the real blood predators need them they actually fear them in other person’s hand even more then gun banners.

        • Sam Adams

          It isn’t paranoia when millions of blood-thirsty islamic psycopaths vow to slaughter you and follow through on their promise.

          We have a so-called leader of the free world ignoring the real threat against America and the American citizen. We have a so-called leader refusing to name the enemy.

          We have his administration coddling the Muslim Brotherhood, removing all reference to Sharia and radical islam from the lexicon and training manuals of the FBI, the DOD, the DIA, the CIA, the ONI and all other intelligence, counter-intelligence and counter-terrorist agencies of our government.

          We have a so-called leader who after the islamic terrorist attack in Orlando, blamed AMERICANS for that slaughter.

          Despite, Ft. Hood, the Boston Marathon, Chattanooga, TN, San Bernadino, and Orlando, despite Paris, and Brussels, despite Copenhagen and Great Britain, you’re still deluding yourself about the real and present threat of islamic terrorism in the United States?

          It isn’t paranoia. It’s the act of critical thinking, having a sound premise and coming to a logical conclusion. It’s called common sense and self-preservation. It’s called getting in touch with reality.

          • Tritro29

            You’re sadly an example of this issue. People who commit these actions are the same on both sides. There’s a morality fiber that is gone, you can dress it up as Islam, Communism, Christianity the end game is simple the total annihilation of the humanity in these people. It’s that easy. Funny enough, well to do German men literally machine gunned innocent people by the hundred thousands and they weren’t psychopaths, just people led to believe that there was no morality issue, exterminating sub-humans.

            We have over 20 million muslims in Russia, and the huge majority of them are very normal people, warm and welcoming. The people we had sort out by violence were a phenomenon directly linked to the decay of our old system. The USSR fell down, the vacuum was filled by Nationalism and Religion to top the relative poverty of those years.

            When you think critically, arming yourself is a clear evidence that your security services have worked poorly on every aspect. Checks were beaten, awareness was low, weapons were fairly easy to obtain. It’s a two way street.

          • David Harmon

            The Germans never machined gunned people by the hundreds of thousands.

            The Muslims are happy in Russia because the state let’s them have free reign over their neighborhoods. Russia is nothing more than a collection of mobs fighting each other over territory these days.

          • Tritro29

            Google Babi Yar you filth.

          • L Cavendish

            on the outside…but it only takes a few to be a problem…
            and many show you want you want to see…while believing something entirely different
            good luck to you in Russia

          • Drake_Burrwood

            I simply call them blood predators

          • Bill

            There ARE NOT ” millions of bloodthirsty Islamic psychopaths” out to murder us. Look up the estimates on radical Islamist terrorists done by the CIA, FBI, DOD and DOS. The terrorists have won by convincing you that they are more numerous and stronger than they are. Doing so is a basic operational principle behind terrorism.

            It’s like North Korean military parades, where they have the same units going around blocks and changing uniforms and gear. Smoke and mirrors and propaganda.

            And don’t bellow about how wrong I am: do you WANT there to be millions of people out to kill us?

          • Sam Adams

            There are approximately 1.5 billion muslims in the world today. Of that, it is estimated that 35% believe that mass-slaughter of innocent non-Muslim (and some Muslim) civilians (such as on on 9/11) is either completely, partially or some way justified.

            35% of 1.5 billion. Do the math.

          • Bill

            Who did your “estimate?” It wasn’t one of the agencies I cited; I’m guessing some neocon think tank, the likes of which brought us WMDs in Iraq.

            But of course, a massive number of violent radical Muslims fits your narrative, just as massive number of crusading infidel Westerners fits theirs.

          • Sam Adams

            You apparently guess a lot of things. Don’t guess; know.
            Do your research. Those figures are out there.

            Pull your head out of the sand.

          • Bill

            So you don’t have an actual source. If you did, you’d cite it.

          • Squrrily

            Well said

      • Harry’s Holsters

        Amen. We are all Americans at the end of the day!

    • tazman66gt

      Didn’t the LGBT group Pink Pistols already tell their followers to tell everyone they know to arm themselves, get training, and get a ccw if they can. And to not vote for Hillary because she has already come out against personal ownership.

      • Harry’s Holsters

        They may have. I really don’t know but they are an extremely small subset of that community. I hope their numbers swell after this incident.

      • FightFireJay

        FYI, Pink Pistols is behind the recent court victory that (supposed) to make Washington DC a SHALL issue district!

        (Mathew Grace and Pink Pistols vs D.C.

        • Drake_Burrwood

          *Dancing happy dance*
          Maybe if this keeps up we won’t have to ship our four biggest gun ban cities to Japan. And ruin their fish bait market with a massive glut.

      • Harry’s Holsters

        Just saw an article that on Saturday the pink pistols was at 1,500 members and on Monday it was at 3,500. Let’s hope it swells to the tens of thousands!

        • L Cavendish

          MILLIONS

  • Dickie

    A “blow” to the lgbt community. Lmao

    • You really think that’s funny? It was a disgusting remark and yes I deleted it!

      • Drunk Possum

        Ah man, now I wanna know what it was.

  • Sasquatch

    So I guess this is a bad time to want 5.56 for this 4th of July…..

  • Sulaco

    This must really piss off his majesty.

    • Big Daddy

      Wait until Trump becomes president, they’ll all have a stroke.

  • This is why I went out on a bit of a financial limb to build my AR last summer, before the primaries heated up, because with Hilldebeest in the running I knew it was only going to take one scumbag acting out for everyone on both sides of the Bill Of Rights to lose their gorram minds.

    • Firefly reference. classy.

    • Sam Adams

      Not sure yet, but Daniel Defense just brought the hammer down on Academy Sports for pulling the same PC crap that Dick’s pulled.

      • L Cavendish

        didn’t Wal-Mart do the same after Sandy Hook????

  • Ghost930

    Obama, and the Democratic Party. The best unpaid firearms salesman ever known to this country. LOL
    Bet they wish they worked on commission.

    • G B

      They do. Sales tax.

  • Bill

    Got Cabela’s Father’s Day sale flyer today – bet those S&W MP 15s at 100 bucks off are already gone.

  • TangledThorns

    My panic money went to the NRA as a donation. I hope others will do the same!

    • onehalfheffer

      Why did I even comment here?!

      (Unless this is sarcasm, in which case, carry on)

    • Anthony Rosetta

      I did too!

  • Tormund Giantsbane

    We’re almost out of black guns where I work. Pistols have been untouched so far though.

    • L Cavendish

      even though pistols account for 90-95% of gun deaths every year…go figure

  • Cymond

    My wife, who is not a collector and barely a shooter, came up to me on Monday and said “we can’t really afford it right now, but maybe we need to go to a gun store”. She’s been wanting a Sig P238. I assured her that the P238 is not a likely target of any legislation.

    In truth, I have all the “EBRs” or “MSRs” that I “need” but not all that I want.
    If a new AWB passes, I’ll never own an AK or VZ-58 or any of the dozens of other classics on my wishlist, but my 2 AR-15s are “good enough”. I could get a 7.62×39 or 300 Blackout upper if I really want something in 30 cal.
    More than anything, I wish I had a pistol-caliber carbine, but I could convert one to 9mm if I really want to some day. (I’d still prefer a dedicated 9mm carbine).

    What would really upset me (for my sake, not from a big picture view) would be the end of pistols with threaded barrels. Thankfully, I have 2 rimfire pistols and 2 9mm pistols with threaded barrels. Sadly, both 9mms are striker fired polymer pistols. I’d really like an all steel DA 9mm with a threaded barrel, but again, my current guns are “good enough”. Maybe I’ll finally order that Timberwolf frame I’ve been wanting, just as an inexpensive way to get a third pistol (since I could use by G-34 slide & barrel temporarily).

    • Edeco

      Hmmm, good instinct I think. Pocket guns aren’t the main target now, but I think they’re next in line. I say this because during the AWB, with banana mags conquered, groups like VPC were making a thing out of “ring of fire” makers and “Saturday night specials”. How detective-noir. Even now I think Taurus j-frames have to enter the US with a chunk of extra barrel and have it cut off once inside, unless that changed or is a myth.

  • Sam Adams

    I’m not so sure it’s just the Orlando islamic terrorist attack that is driving up sales. I think it’s adding to it, but it’s also the Progressive IE: Marxist Party (I no longer refer to it as the Democratic Party) demanding another ban on the so-called and improperly named “assault weapon.”

    Those who had only been thinking about buying an AR-15 may now be thinking that if they don’t buy one now, they may not get the opportunity to buy one later.

    Every time the Progressive IE: Marxist Party threatens to destroy our 2nd Amendment RIGHT guns sales always surge.

  • Tritro29

    Yes they would have been killed by the Czar or the guy approved by either the German High Command or British interests. Do me a favour, don’t speak about history armed with clichés. It’s about context.

    Also Armed Russians fought against Bolshevism, and armed Russians fought for Bolshevism. You trying to make it look like one of your dreamed dystopian totalitarian non-sense, is actually an insult to the people that died on both sides.

    The rest is Anti-Putin nonsense that I hear all to frequently. Stalin killed far less Ukrainians than Russians or Kazakhs. No body cares, because it’s not the rifles that wins wars, but an organized institution of violence, called Police, Army, Security service. States rely on those primarily to exist, and to deprive them of that force, you need a different system, not guns. Look at Syria, you’re arming people to topple the guy there but as the people you sponsor are hardly different than him, this “revolutoin” has shown its true colors.

    • Sam Adams

      Wow! You’re totally clueless. That explains why you have no concept of freedom, or the natural rights of man, or our Founding Fathers, or our Constitution, or our American heritage, or our culture.

      Cliches? That’s so cute.

      • Tritro29

        Founding Fathers? Natural Rights of man? What the hell do you think they mean in the real world? I’m going to tell you: ZERO. Nothing. All what you described above can and will be taken from you without a common aparatus to protect it. Without a Common Good and Cause all those “American” heritage (Charters in Europe date from at least 500 years before the US “Constitution” that by the way is completely out of touch on its initial version) would be gone within a week.

        What makes all those stick is organized and codified violence, in the form of a State (be that a representative Government or a more radical variant of self-representation).

        If you think we don’t know “freedom” in Russia, then you know nothing (Jon Snow). Concept of Freedom…something that doesn’t exist in Nature.

        • Sam Adams

          “…All what you described above can and will be taken from you without a common aparatus to protect it…”

          There are just over 300 million Americans living in the US.
          There are over 300 million firearms in the hands of private American citizens with trillions of rounds of ammunition, and that number keeps growing every day, every week, every month and every year.

          Americans are armed to the teeth. US citizens own more firearms than China and India’s armies combined.

          THAT is the apparatus we use to protect our natural rights and our traditional American heritage and ideals of freedom.

          A tyrannical government can attempt to take our Constitutional rights from us, and they might even win a battle or two. But it will be very bloody battles, and in the end, freedom always wins over oppression.because the human spirit naturally yearns to be free.

  • Shayne

    i ordered my son a DDI AK-74 from Classic Firearms for his Christmas gift on Saturday morning the attack happen that night, they still haven’t shipped it, I am just glade I plan ahead, need to get mags.

  • Sam M

    Our shop has been noticeably busier. Since Sunday, we sold over 100 stripped lowers and 30 S&W M&P Sport 2s. Glock sales are also starting to pickup for us too.

  • Travis

    “At this point it doesn’t seem warranted.Only time will tell.”

    Well… I don’t know if I agree, with talk about an AWB if I had the money I’d find an AR-15 to buy…

  • i1776

    The industry wants another “panic”. I feel it in the air.

    • gabriel brack

      Possibly. But I think they would prefer steady sales over panic sales. At least the bigger companies. Stockholders tend to prefer a regular return over the long term.

  • IndyToddrick

    I dunno, I think the majority of potential buyers got their fill after the last panic. There can’t be that many people who have not gotten on the AR-15 bandwagon yet, so I suspect a much shorter panic than before.

    The Feds caused this by the 1994 AWB, because when you ban something it makes it more expensive (and psychologically desirable). The unbanning released pent up demand, and then repeated threats to reban just keep the sales soaring through the roof. It’s a perfect storm of government interference causing the opposite effect they desired.

  • AixSponsa

    7,000 AR 15 per day….. ? That is daaaam biiiiig gun dealer. Most have less than 200 guns total in stock.

  • valorius

    Definitely a sellers market right now.

  • Zog

    Yeah… I figured that I’d hedge my bets just encase and bought 2 lowers and a ton of mags. Better safe than sorry.

  • Wojciech Kapeliński

    Amen

  • BigFED

    What Obummer should do is make a statement about “assault weapons” every other month to keep things going!!! Every time he opens his yapper, sales soar!!! All he would have to do is say “assault weapon”. It wouldn’t even have to be a complete sentence!

  • BR549

    Let’s just hope that the low-information, brain-dead, Bernie and Hillary supporters actually figure out who the REAL enemy is and not start targeting Trump supporters out of blind ignorance.

    The REAL enemy is dressed in a $4,000 suit, usually has an office in Washington, and the worst of the worst are hiding behind a dark veil of deceit after being blackmailed or bribed by Rothschild, Rockefeller, Kissinger, and Soros forces.

    • David Harmon

      $4k suit, try more a like a $20K suit.

      • BR549

        I stand corrected.

  • Ken

    What are liberals going to do now that their precious LGBT crowd is buying up guns in record numbers now?

    • David Harmon

      Probably advocate turning them on us.

      • Drake_Burrwood

        They will never be Caught doing that, but I have long suspected that Obama long ago decided that if his political idol in centralising power said splitting the poor and the wealthy and using them against each other was good. He seems to have decided like Saddam Hussain the more splits in society the better that way they will all come to their rulers for protection.

        • David Harmon

          Obama is a puppet though, not a policy setter.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            Well maybe but who ever it is is honestly real world blind in what they keep trying to do.

          • David Harmon

            Marxists do not like having armed peasants. It makes it too hard for them to kill whomever they deem necessary.

  • Oldgringo

    This is the only way Obama can get a bump in the economy.

  • I still like building my own AR’s. Over the last few years, I’ve built up a good supply of parts; including 80% lowers for the AR’s and 1911’s.

  • Mustascheo

    Anybody else surprised?

  • Mike Lashewitz

    Start of “Panic Buying” I hope so. I just pray dealers do not price gouge like “Cheaper Than Dirt” is known to do.
    One would think they would LOWER Prices to get as many guns as possible into the hands of as many Legal Owners as possible.

    I am looking at Anderson RF 85 lubrication free rifles.

  • Matt Wilder

    Figures. I’ve been saving up for about 6 months to build my first AR after having concentrated on German small arms for most of my time since I left the commie state of NJ. So, I figured I’d try something new since my old man has spoken so highly of the platform over the years having served with it, and I even had fond memories of the M16/AR15 after my own experiences with it during what seems like a lifetime ago now. Well, needless to say, I finally got the bug to revisit it and build one, Thursday night was the big day to order my parts after saving every last penny for the last half year that I could..then..you guessed it…. THE PANIC! Thank god I had ordered my lower the week before, but now all I have is an empty lower, and I have yet to even hear a peep about shipping or anything from the outfit I ordered my other parts from. I fear I may have been a little too late and the company (who shall remain nameless for now) doesn’t want to admit to being swamped and possibly out of the stuff I ordered in order to retain my business. Figures…. freakin’ panic buyers. I understand it’s not necessarily the companies fault, but it is ours; sometimes as a group, we’re our own worst enemy. I was just becoming happy that I could get .22 again. I mean, I’m not one of those that has to have my parts right now, or last week (I have been dreaming about it for 6 months now after all), but after having dropped a lot of hard earned cash on my parts, it sure would be nice to see some progress, or even a word from the distributor. After all, they’ll gladly take my money. Imagine what the outcome would be if I took all the parts I needed from their shop, walked out, and said, “Oh, by the way, I’ll pay you in several weeks or maybe a couple of months…”

  • 1inidaho

    I think a certain percentage of us bought accordingly when supplies became available. I for one said “never again”. Let’s just say I am comfortable with where I am at right now.

  • RICH

    The anti-gun liberals have become the greatest firearms SALESMEN of all times….. ! ! !

  • carlcasino

    Panic over another Islamic killing will drive the Gun CONTROL nut jobs from now till eternity. I bought mine to protect myself FROM the Government, the guy that so easy to spot by his beard, his dress and his mannerisms always gives me a Juan Williams moment. Alert level 1

    • Drake_Burrwood

      Actually I suspect their biggest panic right now is how big a percentage of the current gun buying is fueled by the LGBTQI community.
      Losing their grip on that to Libertarians would be bad for them.

  • L Cavendish

    wait until Clinton and Trump really get going
    and if Hillary wins? watch out…ammo and guns will FLY off the shelves!!!

  • Matt Wilder

    Yeah…

  • Matt Wilder

    Yeah…

  • Matt Wilder

    Yeah, I said it…

  • Ben Pottinger

    You make the assumption that our armed forces wouldn’t fracture or implode if forced to attack their friends and neighbors. Do we really believe that the only reason to develop drone warfare is to protect the troops? Once you can control a majority of the war machines with a minority of people your job of convincing them to murder their neighbors just got a lot easier.

    For now though the biggest hurdle to using the military on the people is the military itself.

    • Tritro29

      Your armed forces aren’t different from ours, which they also imploded once the USSR broke up. My point was that a militia in the XXIst century has two main issues.
      1. Not a coherent system.
      2. Logistics.

      As an example look at what happened in the USSR. The systems went to the gutter the first decade after the fall of the Berlin Wall. All armies previously constituting the Soviet Armed forces encountered the same bottleneck. Systems were obsolete because they were relying on a totally integrated logistical system. And an already weak system at that.

  • Drake_Burrwood

    What do we have. We have in many States more hunters
    (experienced snipers) then most countries have armies.
    On of.the reason I am an activist for allowing military to carry personal weapons if not carrying an issue weapon. I know both how may it takes to keep high tech weapons at the point of the conflicts.

    • Tritro29

      Yes, because a “hunter” makes a sniper? Because a hunter makes a tactically superior asset in identifying, assessing, targeting and successfully suppressing the forces in theater as well as trained marksman or military sniper. And off course these superior marksmen they all will have no problem with their logistical train once the real US military would have been dented by an hypothetical superior foe? How many times (too many) have watched Red Dawn? Just so you know we have more veterans (people that have been trained to operate weapons even barely on a military standard) than the US has has “snipers”…People who can crank a radio, use a GBAD system, operate a tank, operate an IFV; APC and we have the complex military systems to equip them. That doesn’t make Russia safer. Not at all.

      You don’t understand how political systems fail or succeed. It has NOTHING to do with rifles.

      • Drake_Burrwood

        Yes and our administration has very carefully made sure most are unarmed. Of course our ex-military are much less restrained.

        • Tritro29

          Once again, you don’t know what an armed populace looks like. When your guys will roll down Main Street USA with storage M60’s have the discipline of a herd of Hyenas and the morals of a paroled rapist you’ll understand what an armed populace looks like. Every part of the system you claim to defend is a human construction and relies on a large degree of control.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            But you see I do know what an armed populous looks like. It looks like any other.

          • Tritro29

            … No you don’t. If you did you’d pray the Lord that never happens in your area.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            I live in an armed populous, an old USA German Garmin community. Most hunt and even if they don’t they still own weapons to protect crops and livestock. We happen to be near a national level population center that is much less armed. The only real violence that floods over is your ladies kidnapped by other city folk raped and dumped out on our back roads.
            They avoid causing us trouble since as they would put it “they’re crazy out there they all got guns and would blow your &&& off. ” So of course we don’t have to.
            I understand how much more important it is to owe a debt of blood, honor, money, and submission to a rich person who owns the gun you hold, but sorry we are like the original Swiss we prefer to own our own.

            That yellow snake Flag we got most people don’t really know what it means. “We choose who to follow”. Not our commander, we choose our commander -in-chief, President, Governor, or some other civilian who isn’t forsworn.

            Yes, I understand like most of the elitists in our own country you know that only the opinion of real people like politicians matter. Sorry couldn’t care less

          • Bill

            If you want to see a REAL “armed populace,” visit Chechnya, Syria, Somalia or the Tribal Regions of Pakistan.

            Plenty of people own guns in the rural area where I live and work; the fact that many people have guns doesn’t keep them from shooting each other.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            Sorry.. I prefer my own thank you.
            Sure it happens. When I was young a guy went to his local church with a shotgun.
            A guy in a local town saw his fiancee with another man shot them both then his self. She was a veterinarian who had just saved the life of the other guys dog via surgery so he was taking her out for lunch. Oddly enough both had mental health issues.
            If I wanted to live in a place predicated on gun control I’d move to Chicago

      • Drake_Burrwood

        the difference between a veteran militia and rookie.
        Of course it doesn’t current military science discussions and papers often have to deal with the issue of small units being able to do massive damage the leave before formal responce is possible. And this is a current LEO [Law Enforcement Officer] issue as well. both centralized military and law enforcement responce, has become to slow.
        Tanks and Jet fighters are all very pretty, but in the modern world it is getting to be the first responder to either will be someone like me.

        • Tritro29

          … I feel like all conservative Americans are stuck in the Middle Ages when organized violence is concerned. Yet they have the biggest, most devastating, most refined brand of organized violence…

          How can this be possible.

          To the point, American doctrine hasn’t become to slow, it has become too limited compared to before. There’s a lot of organic assets that the US had during the Cold War it has gotten out of its ORBAT or is phasing out.

          Small units are going to do a lot of damage with preparation and force multipliers.

          However, this relies of careful planning and logistical capability to issue the required assets.

          One of the biggest hurdles for a “militia”. Back to point one. If you imagine yourself as a first responder, chances are that it will also be your last “response”. Attrition levels for militias are high compared to professional and/or standing armies.

          Bottom line this argument is moot, a “veteran” militia is plagued by the very essence of civil wars, local groups will have very little projection power and will be very reliant on their territory. These two steps will simply be dealt with a very heavy employment of indiscriminate violence. Scorched earth works for both sides.

          • Drake_Burrwood

            Like in Afghanistan and Vietnam, I understand the fascination with high tech solutions. But we both know that Obama’s drone strikes really managed little until boots actually got involved. In a country where 1 in 4 households is willing to admit to owning arms. Burying 20,000,000 people becomes a lot harder.

  • Cymond

    Ok, any hope the panic buying will stop, now that the Senate voted against all 4 bills they had?
    I’d really like a 9mm carbine.

  • Anthony Rosetta

    Went to a gun show last weekend in Pasadena, Tx. and the guns were flying off the shelf, especially the black rifles. They had people lined up at the tables filling the proper forms out. The libs and the damnocraps just won’t let up. I just sent another donation to the NRA!

    • Drake_Burrwood

      Thank you.

  • Tritro29

    Read what Solzhenitsyn has written about more basic issues like Russian Identity you peon. A broken Watch gives the right hour twice a day, doesn’t mean it’s more useful than that. If you think that Solzhenitsyn is a useful or treatable source for the “Directorate”, they don’t fret, go straight at Robert Conquest. Your brand of insanity needs a proper medication.

    Because a regime has utterly horrible byproducts; it doesn’t mean it is defined by those byproducts.

    Otherwise America would have been defined by Genocide.

  • Tritro29

    Claims? The Soviets claimed what? Do you understand that the Germans documented the killings including photographs. Which trials are we talking about here mister filth? Tell me which trial we’re talking about, Nurnberg?

    Do you happen to know about Sonderaktion 1005? Do you happen to know why Paul Blobel was sentenced to hang for? I guess my grand father missed yours and allowed him to pollute the gene pool.

    Do you understand what you’re talking about or is this the normal Neo-Nazi troll roaming free in the Internet?

    • David Harmon

      You brought up those specific mass graves and you’re not even aware that the Jewish Congress brought suit against the Ukrainian government to get reparations over them? Really? That the Ukrainian government petitioned the Russians for their records of the situation, and discovered that the NKVD were responsible for the act’s thus nullifying any claim for reparations from the Ukrainian government over the issue due to NAZI occupation.

      You shouldn’t speak on topics you don’t know anything about.

      I’m the “troll” while you’re blatantly lying about actual recorded history and proven statements while hiding behind a pseudo-name. Great work chief. Keep those ad-homs coming though.

    • David Harmon

      You have no idea what you’re talking about. Babi Yar was worked out by the Ukrainian government when they found additional mass graves. Go do your research then pretend to know something.

  • Lets drop this topic and move on—

    • David Harmon

      How about actually moderating this guy after he wished for my death?

  • David Harmon

    You have no idea what you’re talking about, and it shows.

    The trial was in the 90’s that vindicated the previously accused SS officers of the accusation.

  • David Harmon

    Yeah, I’m the horrible person, and you’re here advocating genocide.

  • David Harmon

    So you go straight from lying into full on white genocide mode. Makes one wonder if Patton was murdered, or just had a “car accident”.

    The truth always comes out in the end though.