George Zimmerman Selling Kel-Tec from Trayvon Martin Case

George Zimmerman Kel-Tec PF-9

You read the title to this article correctly.

George Zimmerman is attempting to sell his Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm used in the controversial Trayvon Martin case. Zimmerman finally received his firearm back from the U.S. Department of Justice 4 years after he was acquitted of the 2012 case.

He initially listed it on the auction site Gunbroker, but it was taken down once they were aware of the listing. George Zimmerman listed the Kel-Tec PF-9 with opening bids starting at $5,000.00. To drum up interest in his firearm, he personally contacted local media outlets in Florida informing them of what he was doing. News stations devoured the story and social media lit up with opinions on his decision to sell the firearm. With all of this activity, Gunbroker finally became aware of the listing and released this statement:

George Zimmerman Gunbroker Auction Listing

Gunbroker Statement Regarding the Auction Listing Posted by George Zimmerman

Twitter started buzzing with thousands of people condemning his actions. While there are lots of people surprisingly interested in buying the firearm, the number of people outraged at the thought of George Zimmerman profiting from that pistol are even greater.

After Gunbroker refused to list the auction of the Kel-Tec PF-9, Zimmerman was able to get his firearm listed on another website called “United Gun Group.” With his opening bid once again starting at $5,000.00 it has already eclipsed $65 Million as of this morning! United Gun Group had some lister’s remorse last night though because they temporarily removed the auction, but re-listed it once again this morning.

The “individuals” bidding on the firearm are more than likely fake or insincere accounts. Some of the names are deceased people from heavily-covered, news stories in recent months. ABC news reported those upset with Zimmerman are placing false bids.

A lot of news stations in Florida asked Zimmerman what he was going to do with the money, if he gets any at all. He said he wanted to use it to defeat “Hillary Clinton’s anti-firearm rhetoric” and fund a fight against the “Black Lives Matter” movement which is violent towards police.

George Zimmerman has a very interesting auction description for the firearm. He described his firearm on both Gunbroker and United Gun Group as follows:

Prospective bidders,

I am honored and humbled to announce the sale of an American Firearm Icon. The firearm for sale is the firearm that was used to defend my life and end the brutal attack from Trayvon Martin on 2/26/2012. The gun is a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm. It has recently been returned to me by the Department of Justice. The pistol currently has the case number written on it in silver permanent marker. Many have expressed interest in owning and displaying the firearm including The Smithsonian Museum in Washington D.C. This is a piece of American History. It has been featured in several publications and in current University text books. Offers to purchase the Firearm have been received; however, the offers were to use the gun in a fashion I did not feel comfortable with. The firearm is fully functional as the attempts by the Department of Justice on behalf of B. Hussein Obama to render the firearm inoperable were thwarted by my phenomenal Defense Attorney. I recognize the purchaser’s ownership and right to do with the firearm as they wish. The purchaser is guaranteed validity and authenticity of the firearm. On this day, 5/11/2016 exactly one year after the shooting attempt to end my life by BLM sympathizer Matthew Apperson I am proud to announce that a portion of the proceeds will be used to: fight BLM violence against Law Enforcement officers, ensure the demise of Angela Correy’s persecution career and Hillary Clinton’s anti-firearm rhetoric. Now is your opportunity to own a piece of American History. Good Luck.

Your friend, George M. Zimmerman

~Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum~

The auction listing on United Gun Group’s site can be found HERE.

For those wondering what the end statement of “Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum” means, it is Latin for “if you want peace, prepare for war.”

All of this seems like a circus act of sorts because it paints Zimmerman and firearm owners in a horrible light. Even if he has sincere intentions to do well with the money received from the firearm.

The auction has 4 days left so soon enough we will learn what will happen to this now famous Kel-Tec PF-9.



Hello everyone! The outdoors, Crossfit, and anything firearm related have always been my passions. I’ve been a guest writer for Sierra Bullets, am a Smith & Wesson Armorer, reloader, and have an addiction to classic S&W and Colt revolvers. Be sure to visit TFB frequently and keep your magazines full, my friends!


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  • Anonymoose

    65 million dollars for a Keltec? He could buy Keltec with that much!

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    This guy is a scumbag.

    • John Yossarian

      Obama’s son was the scumbag. If you don’t agree, then you can get killed while not defending yourself. Hey – At least they won’t call your corpse a racist.

      • Andrew

        An even better way to defend yourself is to stay at home, instead of driving around at night looking for people in hoodies because you think you’re Paul Blart the super neighborhood cop.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Or he could have stayed in his car and waited for the police like the 911 dispatcher told him instead of starting a physical confrontation with a bigger person who then proceeded to whip his a-s. If you start a fight with someone who is not harming you or anyone else and is unarmed and get the sh-t kicked out of you that doesnt mean you get to blow him away in the street.

        • Sianmink

          So I can assume you didn’t pay much attention to the trial evidence.

          • John Yossarian

            After reading too many of his posts, I’d long ago come to the conclusion that the NotoriousIUD doesn’t believe in evidence – He’s got feeeeelllings, man!

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Well I want there but what is not disputed is the fact that the physical confrontation occurred 70 yards from Martins home and not by Zimmermans car.

        • John Yossarian

          “Starting a fight” means initiating violence – And it was Obama’s burglar son who started the fight. Zimmerman was well within his right to use deadly force in his defense. But if you don’t know the difference between violence and self-defense, then you can just turn in your carry permit if you have one.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Even if Martin did throw the first punch and was a sh-thead punk what would you do if somebody got out of their car and started following you home?

          • John Yossarian

            If I was Obama’s son, a thug who “needed to see them bleed”, then I probably would have surprise-attacked Zimmerman as he was getting back into his car to wait for the police.

            Only by incapacitating Zimmerman would I be able to escape – Otherwise, he’d follow and continue to report my location for the impending arrest, on suspicion of committing those burglaries for which I had tools and loot in my school locker.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Nice fantasy but thats not what happened.
            The fight occurred 70 feet from Martins house well away from Zimmermans car.

        • gunsandrockets

          “Or he could have stayed in his car and waited for the police like the 911 dispatcher told him instead of starting a physical confrontation with a bigger person…”

          Not true. But commonly disseminated.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            So youre saying it was beyond his control to stay in his car?

          • gunsandrockets

            Your recounting of what was said and what was done is not accurate. Zimmerman was never “ordered to stay in his car”. And the evidence plainly demonstrated that Martin initiated the fight, not Zimmerman.

            Considering that Zimmerman was on his phone calling the cops, while Martin was on his phone calling his girl, it’s pretty clear what the mindsets of the two individuals were at that time.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            So now youre saying that the police dispatcher (the one that was recorded) never told him to stay put and that Martin came over and dragged Zimmerman out of his car?

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Audio of the dispatcher telling him not to follow Martin.

            https://youtu.be/6aVwPqXc-bk

          • gunsandrockets

            As you can hear from the recording, Zimmerman was never ordered to stay in his car. And the recording also shows Zimmerman agreeing to not follow Martin when the dispatcher tells him.

            So, what is your evidence that Zimmerman pursued Martin? When the additional recordings show Zimmerman waiting for the police to arrive? Zimmerman at that point was trying to meet the cops, not chase Martin.

            Did you pay attention to the trial? Do you really believe there is a just case against Zimmerman? Then why has Martin’s family never pursued a lawsuit against Zimmerman? Why has the U.S. DOJ never filed charges against Zimmerman? Why?

            Because the evidence plainly demonstrates that Zimmerman used legal self-defense.

    • Greg Anderson

      I tend to agree. I have to wonder if we, as a society, didn’t create him. Here’s why I say that: I think it’s entirely possible that GZ was a relatively normal human being before all of this. I think he made a questionable call that got himself into a situation where he had to use lethal force to defend himself. Then he gets hit with years of massive amounts of negative attention, death threats, etc. The only people that consistently stood by him were, well, racist people. Are we surprised at how he turned out? We radicalized him.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        But it was his bad call that escalated the situation and led to him being beaten. At that point yeah he was in a life or death situation but it was of his own doing. The point is that police work should be done by policemen. If he had done this in Texas he would be in jail. Chl holders are only allowed to use weapons defensively not chase bad guys.

        • Greg Anderson

          No no no no no. A bad call does not warrant a beatdown. Wearing a skirt in a bad neighborhood does not warrant a rape. And he didn’t use his firearm to chase anyone – that only came out after TMs attack.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            That’s a horrible analogy.
            Have you ever been shot at or shot at someone?
            It’s not a joke or a game. You step on the field you better be ready. Zimmerman got his a-s beat because he instigated it then when he couldn’t handle himself with his fists he shot an unarmed person out of sheer terror.

          • Greg Anderson

            Jesus christ your logic. “it’s not a game, but treat physical attacks from someone else like a game”

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I never said that.
            Zimmerman put himself in a position that he was neither trained nor prepared for. He had no clue how to trail someone without being picked up and didn’t have the physical tools to defend himself.
            It was a cluster from minute one.
            He’s a moron and the idea that he’s some kind of martyr or hero is ludicrous. He effed up that situation so bad if I was him I’d never show my face again.

          • Greg Anderson

            “couldn’t handle himself with his fists he shot an unarmed person out of sheer terror.” – that was you, your words, “i never said that” doesn’t work here. This whole “lol fists only, take your beatdown like a man” is absolutely juvenile game-tier logic.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            So your logic is pick a fight then shoot the other unarmed guy when you start getting whipped.
            That sounds like a real hero to me.

          • Greg Anderson

            Subtract your high school drama understanding of “picking a fight” and yeah, if someone is slamming your head into concrete AND you didn’t initiate the physical conflict AND you were walking away from the situation… You better shoot the guy before he potentially ends you.

            GZ is no hero, but he’s not the antichrist either.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            He wasn’t walking away and he did initiate the confrontation. He did it when he got out of his car with a gun. And I don’t care about your BS about how he decided to go back after they told him too which is a lie he never should have done anything he did that day. This is the worst example of “self defense” I can imagine.

          • Greg Anderson

            “And I don’t care about your BS about how he decided to go back after they told him too” – okay, keep believing that he ran a grand total of thirty meters. Or you can do research, but we both know you’re deathly afraid of cognitive dissonance so I won’t wait.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            What is this thirty meters you keep harping about?

          • smartacus

            careful with your freedom of opinion. comments to him tend to get flagged and removed by the well programmed, Fakebook worshipping staff here.

          • Greg Anderson

            I’m not worried. I’m in their house. If they have an issue with something I say, it’s well within their rights to remove it. It’s also within our rights to refuse to visit their site if they go too far or censor for poor reasons, but lets be honest: Everything posted on a discussion chain dealing with TM/GZ is at risk for removal.

  • Sickshooter0

    How does this paint firearm owners in a horrible light?

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Because hes an idiot.
      And how many times has he been arrested before and after that incident for domestic violence, public drunkenness and other gun violations?

      • kevinp2

        Zimmerman had a fairly clean record before the incident.

        After the incident, he has certainly gone off the rails.

        But if you were railroaded into an unjust prosecution to appease the baying Al Sharpton mob, you too might find it a little hard to keep a stiff upper lip.

        • John Yossarian

          Every one of the post-trial arrests ended in a withdrawal of the charges against Zimmerman. Ex-wives, girlfriends and a deranged man out to kill him – Not exactly the most trustworthy crowd when it comes to accusations.

      • Sickshooter0

        And to my point? The comment in the article by Adam was “…it paints Zimmerman and firearm owners in a horrible light.” If Reginal Denny had gotten back into his truck and mowed down his attackers during the Rodney King riots, how does that reflect on other truck drivers?

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          Because Zimmerman wasnt being attacked by a mob.
          He made the horrible decision to leave his vehicle and instigate a confrontation.
          And BTW thats exactly what I would have done if I was Reginald Denny.

    • Audie Bakerson

      Because if you shoot a drugged up teenager bashing your head against the the ground trying to kill you, you’ll shoot a government agent trying to drag you to a camp because you’re the wrong race

  • Sianmink

    If GZ just wanted to sell it, he wouldn’t have personally notified news organizations after making the listing.
    The man doesn’t know how to live outside the spotlight anymore.

    • Anon

      Why is it that all of the idiots have no comprehension of how to shut up?
      And talk the loudest (get the most attention)?

  • Anon

    Buying this crappy Kel-Tec just proves that you are as stupid if not stupider as the guy who bought one of his terrible paintings for 100K (yes, I’m serious, unfortunately).

    For goodness’ sake, this isn’t Patton’s Colt SAA or the rifle that shot JFK, it’s not really historically significant other than “the incident ended up on national news for a while”.

    I have nothing against Gunbroker removing this from their website, because this was stupid.

    • zardoz711

      I’d much rather have the FN 1910 that Gavrilo Princip used to shoot Franz Ferdinand with, than Zimmerman’s crappy keltec

      • Anon

        Now THAT would be worth a lot historically, the gun that indirectly killed the most people, by starting WWI and indirectly causing WWII.

        I completely agree with you there, also, it’s more classic than a generic, crappy polymer gun.

  • Andrew

    The Martin/Zimmerman incident can be summed up in 3 words…

    “when buttholes collide”

    • Andrew

      I wouldn’t want George’s gun anymore than I would want Trayvon’s hoodie. They both should’ve stayed at home that night.

      • kevinp2

        Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer for his own neighborhood and was going to the store that night when he spotted Trayvon Martin.

        But hey, you can cower at home anytime if you want.

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          Spotted him doing what?
          Walking down the street doing nothing.

          • kevinp2

            Neighborhood watches look out for anyone or anything out of the ordinary. On a rainy night, Trayvon Martin was an unknown person walking in between buildings, outside the streets and walkways. The neighborhood had been hit with a rash of breakins and burglaries. Zimmerman called 911, as he and anyone else should.

            But don’t let me prevent you from Monday morning quarterbacking. When your own house is broken into because your neighbor didn’t care to report something suspicious, your conscience can be at ease.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Im aware of that but he should have done what he was told and stayed in his car like the police told him instead of starting a physical altercation.

          • kevinp2

            Again, don’t make stuff up. The evidence presented at the trial showed that 911 advised him to go back to his car (he was already outside), and he agreed and was returning to his car when Trayvon confronted him, attacked him, knocked him to the ground, and started beating his head into the concrete. Don’t propagate lies and misinformation.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Witness statements on who started the fight vary but the person Martin was talking to on the phone said he told her somebody was following him and that he thought he lost him but then saw he was still following him. Then she heard the phone drop and screaming then a shot. This was 70 yards away from Martins home not by Zimmermans car.
            So you might want to look more closely at the facts yourself.

          • kevinp2

            A person on the phone is not exactly a witness. The person actually living nearby heard an altercation and saw Martin lying on top of Zimmerman, hitting him.

            If you have any other facts besides the voluminous range of evidence presented to the jury, you should have brought them up at the trial. The vindictive prosecutor would have loved to have them.

            It is amazing how many people just leap to the conclusion that Zimmerman started the fight when all the evidence points in the other direction.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Again, witness reports vary on who started the fight but the fact is the fight didnt happen anywhere near Zimmermans car.

          • Ethan

            So essentially we have just proved, in nauseating detail, that the title of this encounter should be “When Buttholes collide”.

            Lighten up guys… we’re only emotionally invested in this case because the media told us to be. Plenty of blame to go around, but it takes true talent to pitch the event in such a way that evenly divide the population in two and has them at each other throats, clicking on articles and generating massive spikes in Ad revenue for YEARS after the event.

            Seriously, ya’ll are getting played.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Im not defending Martin who was by all accounts a punk but Zimmerman was an idiot who got in over his head. Way over.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I have zero emotional investment.
            My opinions are based on facts.

          • Aaron E

            First the gun selling is tacky but well within Zimmermans right.

            As for your claim of zero emotional investment I disagree. First you strongly stand on your opinion that Zimmerman was obviously wrong to follow and get out of his truck, yet active neighborhood watches are incredibly valuable to community policing. When Martin cut through yards Z couldn’t keep an accurate location on him for police. Following at a distance is reasonable. The Guardian Angels organization is present in many major cities doing much the same as Z (albeit not armed with firearms but in larger groups). This is not stalking – which requires an intent to harass, threaten, or conduct a series of actions to disturb a person with no legitimate purpose.

            Second, you mention Z being armed as is that is bad – the firearm did not come out until M knocked Z down, mounted Z, and began to seriously assault him. As the court and jury found this was reasonable self defense. CCW is legal and Z was licensed to do so.

            Third, you mock Florida’s law (Castle Doctrine), but that same kind of law is now law in most States. The reason is the people decided they wanted to remove the duty of the citizens to retreat from the criminal before returning force. It places full responsibility on the aggressor not on the victim.

            Martins girlfriends statement of a phone call, which is highly subjective and cannot place proper contex on the actual events because of a lack of visual reference, cannot answer the question of who aggressors who first. However there is circumstantial evidence that the screaming was actually Z not M furthering his self defense claim.

            You mention race and this surely played a part in this event. However race has been highly emotionalized for this and other high profile cases. Had M used words to confront Z about why he was following him a conversation may have ended this event with no violence.

            M’s motivation and mental state will never be fully known, but the amount of violence he delivered to Z goes much more strongly towards rage (indignant, pissed, racially sensitive, prejudiced) than it does fear of Z’s intent or purpose. Knocking Z down would have given M time to flee and call for help (he had a phone too but decided to stay on with girlfriend). Instead he mounted Z and made the conscious decision to deliver a beating.

            What is indisputable is that M was killed while he was on top of Z delivering that beating. Physical evidence corroborated this fact.

            So …. The real disagreement is on your belief Z should not have become involved more than a phone call l, where others see his decision as lawful and committed to his neighborhoods well being. That decision, either way, is personal and therefore is dependent on our emotional selections on these matters. The law, however, justified Z’s response to M’s violence.

          • 1911a145acp

            Agree completely with your above statement. Who they were, where they were and what they were doing is irrelevant until the moment that Mr. Martin mounts Mr. Z and begins striking him.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Nobody knows who initiated contact except Zimmerman.
            All I know is he made a boneheaded move getting out of the car.

          • john4637

            Why? Was Zimmerman out that night to deliver newspapers, or he was assigned the duty of town watch.

          • john4637

            So what? What does that factually prove?

          • smartacus

            all the evidence is still not enough. Even video proof showing him holding up two forms of ID and his grandmother present won’t convince some people because 1+1=2 is just one of many opinions, while people who don’t accept 1+1=3 are closed-minded, bigots

          • Greg Anderson

            She testified that he made it to his front door. If we factor her testimony in, nothing makes sense.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I think f her testimony is true then there’s no doubt Zimmerman pursued him and tried to detain him.

          • 1911a145acp

            Those ear-witness “facts” come from Trayvons “girlfriend” as relayed to her as “facts” happening at another location BY Mr. Martin, on a time line that does not match forensic evidence. Mr. Martin’s girlfriend was widely criticized as not a credible witness and actually helped the defense. But please, by all means continue to dig this hole…..

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I never said she was entirely credible it’s just another piece of the puzzle.
            All I know is Zimmerman is an idiot.
            If you live in a high crime area and you see a large black guy who you feel suspicious enough about to cal 911 even though he wasn’t doing anything criminal you don’t get out of your car and start following him. That’s asking for a beating. My dad told me once after I got into a stupid fight at school “If you’re gonna be stupid you better be tough”.

          • john4637

            Did he ever say why he was being followed, i dare say he did not or the other person is lying, Imagine that!

          • A Fascist Corgi

            Trayvon Martin also called George Zimmerman a “creepy-ass cracker” before he assaulted him for no reason.

          • Andrew

            Well, George Zimmerman is a creepy ass cracker, so…

          • 1911a145acp

            so,,, ii IS ok to sucker punch him, assault him, sit on his chest and bash his head into a concrete sidewalk……?

          • A Fascist Corgi

            So, calling Trayvon Obama’s son is a bannable offense but calling George Zimmerman a creepy-ass cracker isn’t. Thanks, Phil.

          • smartacus

            oh that is par for the course for them.

            They allowed every community guideline infraction personal insult against me to remain posted
            while they simultaneously took down my overwhelmingly polite comments for daring not to praise Fakebook andF uckerberg.

            You should have seen them all White-knighting and leaping to the defense of Fakebook like they want to catch his c**

          • john4637

            They are playing their turn on top now, but the worm will change back as soon as the economy bottoms due to their entitlements and other perks.

          • We need to drop the name calling it makes those with a different view angry and gets arguments started that serve no purpose but to cloud the civil parts of the conversation.
            I never said a word about banning anyone—- You’re welcome–:-)

          • Mike

            He is actually a white Hispanic.
            At least that’s what MSLSD said

          • john4637

            The whole thing up to and including this “Black Lives Matter” crap is based on lies. Don’t they matter in Chicago? Give it a rest and give us a break. The last thing you want is to corner us and then turn us ALL against you!

          • Greg Anderson

            I tend to be critical of Zimmerman, but let’s be clear: He was told to return to his vehicle, which it sounds like(from the audio) that he did. It’s not like he was told to stay in his vehicle and left anyway.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I disagree because you can hear him running and when the dispatcher asks if the officers should meet him by his car he says they should call him and then he will tell them where he is. Seems obvious he was in pursuit.

          • Greg Anderson

            And after they tell him “we don’t need you to do that” and he says “okay” what do you hear?

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            His voice sounds like he’s on the move. He is breathing heavier than when he was sitting in the car. And why would he tell them to call him later to get his location if he was sitting in his car as instructed?

          • Greg Anderson

            He is on the move. Back to his car. He’s huffing and puffing in pursuit until they tell him to go back to his car. He hadn’t made it back to his car(as it had only been a few seconds since they told him to cut it out) so it would make sense to have the officers call him since he might not be back to his vehicle yet.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Look at the time frame. The time between the dispatch telling him to knock it off and him saying call me and I’ll tell you my location is only about 45 seconds. If he wasn’t in pursuit he would have just said ok I’ll be at the car. There is no evidence that Martin chased him back to his car. Look where the fight happened. About 70 ft from martins
            Front door and not even close to Zimmermans truck.
            How do you explain that?

          • Greg Anderson

            I don’t know where you’re getting your evidence from, but the shooting location was closer to his truck than TMs house.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Well his truck was damned close to martins front door.

          • Greg Anderson

            According to the map the prosecution was using? Yeah, it was. How do you have such a strong opinion on this case without being familiar with the evidence?

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Again, where was he beaten?
            Outside of his car where he never should have been in the first place. How do you keep defending this idiot?
            When he stepped out of that car and locked and loaded he initiated the sequence of events that followed. A person died because he had to be a hero. He got off because the laws in Florida are ridiculous.

          • Greg Anderson

            You need a reminder of how this conversation started. “I tend to be critical of Zimmerman, but let’s be clear: He was told to return to his vehicle, which it sounds like(from the audio) that he did. It’s not like he was told to stay in his vehicle and left anyway.” That was the first thing I said. You disputed this, got blown out, and now we’re back to where we started.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Blown out, lol
            You choose to interpret the audio in a different way.
            I hear the dispatch saying are you going to be by the car then he says he’ll be by the mailbox then he says tell them to call me and I’ll let them know. He was moving and it wasn’t towards his vehicle.
            What kind of screwed up law lets you stalk a guy with a loaded weapon then start a fight lose it then shoot the guy and get off?
            He’s a moron who almost rightly got his head bashed in.another guy like yourself who’s seen too many movies and has no experience with gunfire.

          • Greg Anderson

            Yes, blown out. You’re seriously proposing that all of that chase audio equals thirty meters of distance covered. You’re doing that because you don’t understand the evidence nearly well enough to have anything resembling an informed opinion on the subject.

          • He didn’t start a fight. Martin attacked Zimmerman and had him pinned to the ground where he was in the process of beating him unconscious. Zimmerman did not hit Martin first, nor did he grab or touch or try to detain martin. All physical violence was initiated by the thug martin.

          • tts

            Actually its not clear from witness testimony who started the fight at all. At least 1 of the witnesses (the girl who was on the phone with Treyvon) claims it was Zimmerman.

            Zimmerman started following Treyvon around so arguable its him who initiated aggressive behavior here. Which is stupid to do if you’re carrying a gun and you’re not a cop in a public situation. You’re supposed to avoid confrontational situations not initiate them.

          • A low IQ hood rat on the other end of a phone is not an eyewitness.

          • tts

            The court thought otherwise and allowed her testimony in court and no legal challenges were issued to her testimony by the defense to my knowledge.

            And calling her a “low IQ hood rat” (because what? she testified against Zimmerman about what she heard? was she supposed to lie or support Zimmerman no matter what in court testimony to not be a “low IQ hood rat” or something?) suggests strongly to me you’re being emotional and not trying to be rational about this at all.

          • Martin died becuase he knocked Zimmerman down mounted him and started beating him to death. Everything else is crap. It’s that right there. Your not allowed in civil society to jump someone who has not threatened you and beat thier head into the concrete until they are dead becuase you think they are following you.

          • tts

            Oh come on he wasn’t being beaten anywhere near death. Bruises, a cut, and maybe a broken nose isn’t death. Its minor to moderate injury at best. Zimmerman might’ve been scared for his life but that still isn’t being beaten to death.

            No you’re not allowed to beat someone up just for following you but its clearly stupid to do in the first place since if the person you’re following is indeed a criminal then that is the sort of thing they’ll beat you up for.

            Whatever your thoughts on Trevyon’s actions its clear Zimmerman was a fool who handled this situation poorly and is certainly not deserving of any respect at all. Given that he had his lawyer fees paid up via donations and then some I’m not inclined to give him any sympathy either. At this point he is just doing stuff for attention and money.

          • He wasn’t being beaten anywhere near to death?! You not only don’t know that your making it up out of whole cloth. and if someone you don’t know has you pinned to the ground and is bashing your head into concrete and your testament is you beleived you would soon be rendered unconscious that is the definition of being beaten to death
            Lastly your downplaying of minor injury is laughable. None of us are “obligated” to take a beating in which you can’t extricate yourself becuase your on your back pinned to the ground and hope it stays in the minor injury category. He stopped the assault, it was justified.

          • tts

            The injuries from the beating he took are public you know that right?

            You don’t have to be a medical expert or be there to watch him get hit to know he wasn’t being beaten to death. Just look at the injuries he sustained. Injuries which he got up and walked away from without issue. People who’ve been nearly beaten to death don’t get up and walk away without issue. So stop with the hyperbole.

            Just because you believe you’re being beaten to death doesn’t mean you actually are being beaten to death. That you cannot make a distinction between the two is slightly amazing in a really horrible way.

            Nowhere did I say Zimmerman or anyone was obligated to take a beating. I even said you’re not allowed to beat up someone for following you. You claimed he was being beaten to death. That claim is factually wrong. And your attempt to equate believing you’re being beaten to death with actually getting a lethal beating isn’t at all reasonable.

            Whether Zimmerman’s shooting was justified had nothing to do with what I was saying. I was pointing out his actions that led up to the shooting were his own fault and he was a fool for action like that.

          • Who’s better equipped to decide thier life is in danger? The person getting thier head smacked into concrete with no end in sight or you? He was pinned down under asualt with no end in sight except blacking out and hoping to wake up later. That is definitionally life threatening. Thier is only one thing that I’m even remotely in agreement with you, Zimmerman is a foolish man. Even fools have the right to stop an attack and are under no obligation to wait and see if they make it out the other side alive.

          • tts

            Nothing I’m posting nor what you were posting originally has anything to do with who gets to decide whose life is in danger dude.

            You made a factual claim: that Treyvon was beating Zimmerman to death.

            I pointed out this was clearly factually incorrect. You’re getting things all twisted up for no good reason here.

          • I’m not getting twisted at all. He was on his back being beaten. He could not extricate himself from that and only an ulternate universe knows if he would have survived had he not put a stop to it by firing. That he chose not to take that gamble is and was justified by the laws of self defense and you have got nothing but a strong desire to convince others he should have taken the beating and hoped he survived.

          • tts

            Yes you are getting it twisted and your comments are getting increasingly irrational and insulting which is a pretty good indicator you’re being emotional for some reason about this point.

          • I’m sorry. Your right sport. I shouldn’t think of you as a teenager just becuase you use “dude” in your argument. But let’s follow your checkers not chess logic to its conclusion mmkay? You say it’s not life threatening enjuries that he suffered, next conclusion that must be followed is that he then was not in danger of dying. That’s the next step in your position, and the conclusion from that step which you don’t want to own is that he then had no right to fire in order to stop the assault. There is no where else for you to go. Therefore he should have “tougher out the beating becuase it was not life threatening and didn’t justify shooting to stop it. This is demonstrably false under the hundreds of years of common law and case law precedent. Your very flawed argument asks us to predict the future life or death consequences to zimmerman based on your perception of the injuries being trivial all the while he cannot stop the assault. Why should anyone gamble the outcome with thier very existence?

          • tts

            You’re literally extrapolating my post into what you want it to be.

            In the future respond only to what I posted and not what you think I posted.

          • Dude. Lol. You used dude in a sentence? Go back to playing Xbox sparky.

          • smartacus

            As a former EMT
            and as someone who has seen the aftermath of very similar injuries (ironically by an AfroAmerican upon a White Hispanic),
            i can tell you firsthand You are Right, those WERE “serious injuries”
            *in fact; i’m surprised he did not have retinal detachment and see stars. I’m surprised he did not and does not currently see double.
            I’m surprised he did not vomit from the violent forces endured by his inner ears. I’m surprised he does not currently suffer from moments of amnesia.

          • smartacus

            i agree, and i can’t help but notice how a lot of ignorant people out there announce their ignorance by believing you have to be passed out to suffer from permanent encephalic or even auditory injury. I’m surprised his hearing was unaffected.

          • Actually it does sound like you are advocating that he should have taken a beating and waited to see how it turned out for him and if he survived.

          • Greg Anderson

            Final nail in that coffin is that the incident was far closer to GZs truck than TMs house. Everything points to GZ being jumped on the way back to his truck.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            And jumped?
            How can you be jumped when you get out of a car and start following a stranger?
            If that happened to me I’d turn and fight too.

          • Greg Anderson

            … And you’d be in the wrong if you did that.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            So if you see some weirdo watching you from a car and then he gets out and starts following you a confrontation is not justified but if you see a black guy walking home it’s perfectly fine to stalk him with a loaded gun.
            And you question my logic.

          • King_Hussein

            Actually, what you hear is the wind noise stop and Zimmerman’s breathing return to normal strongly suggesting he was no longer in “pursuit.” Wanna be thug Martin had more than enough time to travel the short distance to his father’s condo and whip up another purple drank but he was probably already enjoying the PCP like effects and violent psychosis associated with promethazine-codeine abuse and made the poor decision to confront and attack a creepy ass Hispanic cracker who was armed. Had Martin not decided to be a violent threat he would be alive today.

          • Lee

            Like the “dispatcher” told him to do. Dispatchers are not necessarily police.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            True but the protocols they follow are dictated to them by police.

          • John Yossarian

            Furthermore, Obama’s son was a burglar. They’d found burglar’s tools and loot in his locker at school. He was also known to love fights and wouldn’t stop “until [he] saw blood”.

          • Lets drop the Obama son stuff——

          • John Yossarian

            I would, but Obama started it. *Bazinga!* Just kidding – I’ll always stop for you.

          • Thanks man I appreciate it.

          • A Fascist Corgi

            Why? Here’s what Obama himself said: “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.”

          • Because it’s irrelevant to the discussion for one thing.

          • Lee

            Dont forget he had skittles and watermelon tea…for mixing with his lean/sizzurp/purple/whatever they call it these days.

          • Andrew

            I bet you have batteries and drain cleaner at your house. And you’re white. So you must be cooking meth.

          • john4637

            That is what his mommy and daddy and the media say, but none of the three were there. George was there and George suffered head and face injuries. How did he suffer those injuries fall in front of a bus or get hit by a train? Only he and Travon know and Travon was not available for an interview. Win some lose some!

        • Andrew

          And you can go jump on some guy just because he’s wearing a hoodie and then wonder why your life turns into a living nightmare. I’ll laugh at you as I watch TV from the comfort of my living room.

          • kevinp2

            You are now making stuff up. All the evidence presented at the trial showed that Trayvon was the one who attacked Zimmerman, knocked him to the ground, and started beating his head into the concrete. It’s amazing how much willful misinformation people propagate about this case.

          • Andrew

            I’ve never seen such minor injuries from a big strong violent criminal “beating someone’s head into the concrete” before…

          • kevinp2

            You should have testified at the trial as an expert witness on beating, head injuries and the risk of concussions or permanent brain damage. The jurors missed having the benefit of your wisdom.

            In any country in the world, beating someone’s head into the concrete is deadly force.

          • n0truscotsman

            Ill have to go with you on this one. I’ve studied the case extensively, and the forensic evidence hints that Zimmerman was legally justified in defending himself.

            Lesson here for both parties

            Zimmerman: Going by yourself to confront a hypothetical hoodlum? bad idea. Even if you are neighborhood watch.

            Furthermore, when you carry a gun to defend yourself, you always need to be thinking ahead, “hey, do I need to stay here or can i pop smoke?”

            Martin: Dont attack people because they might be armed. It is Florida after all. Derpalicious.

            What exactly occurred that night is only known by Zimmerman, and I can’t argue that he’s 100% truthful or correct either, and had every reason to not be to save his own hide. That is pure conjecture on my part.

            What is particularly infuriating is the mob mentality that followed, which is another example of the media sensationalism that is making a mockery out of the concept of justice. The internet outrage where a certain American political leader put his two cents in, when he should have had a cup of STFU and let the FBI investigate if there was indeed foul play (and you know who i’m talking about, since I’m skirting names to avoid political BS on here).

          • Andrew

            Zimmerman went looking for trouble and he found it.

            Staying at home doesn’t mean you’re a coward, it means you’re not a billy badass idiot.

          • kevinp2

            So all neighborhood watch volunteers, and all police officers on patrol go looking for trouble. Got it.

            Any other words of practical wisdom you want to offer to your fellow citizens?

          • Andrew

            You’re comparing Zimmerman to a police officer now? lol

            Neighborhood watch and paid/trained/certified law enforcement are totally the same thing. Yep.

            All neighborhood watch volunteers should tuck a Keltec in the waistband of their jean shorts and go jump on the first person they see walking around at night. Yep.

            Great advice. I’m guessing you’re a super duper neighborhood watch volunteer? Probably have stickers on your car and a cool embroidered jacket and everything…

          • kevinp2

            Zimmerman was on his way to the store when he saw Martin. But hey, why bother with the facts and data when you can just sneer instead?

          • 1911a145acp

            I have a spare tire, a fire extinguisher and first aid kit in all my vehicles. In your estimation I MUST driving around looking to start a fire, a flat and a cut……

          • Zimmerman didn’t jump on him. He didn’t touch him he didn’t try to detain martin in any way. Martin initiated contact and Martin started the attack.

          • 1911a145acp

            Andrew, WHERE is the factual evidence that Z “jumped on some guy because he is wearing a hoodie”? Or that Z initiated or continued a confrontation, or struck Martin at all at anytime?

      • Mikial

        Agree completely.

    • John Yossarian

      This entire thread can be summed up as:

      1. People who know the facts of the case, routinely relying on reason and evidence to inform their actions and beliefs.

      2. People who were programmed with misinformation by politicians and their tools of propaganda: televised news, a susceptibility to authoritatively-presented programming ingrained in public schools and the body-snatchers-type screams emitted from the masses who will call you names like “racist” if you too don’t swallow the propaganda.

      • Anomanom

        I personally believe that he is simply a man who got away with murder because of a bad case with no eye witnesses. He has a history of alleged assaults and DV incidents both before and after the shooting suggest that he is person prone to violent acts. It’s not admissible in court of course, but it certainly seems to demonstrate a pattern of anti-social behavior.

        • gunsandrockets

          So you didn’t pay attention to the trial?

          If you really believe he is guilty, why has the family of Martin never brought any civil action against Zimmerman? Why has the U.S. DOJ never charged Zimmerman? Why?

          Because the real evidence shows Zimmerman used legal self-defense.

          • tts

            Not bringing a case is not the same as not believing someone is guilty of a given crime.

            Even the govt. often decides not to prosecute people for certain crimes if it believes it’ll cost too much or the chance of success is low. They drop charges all the time because of that. Even in criminal cases where people got injured, killed, or raped. And Trevyon’s family doesn’t have anywhere near the legal or monetary resources of the govt.

            I wasn’t there either to see what happened on the night of Treyvon’s shooting but given Zimmerman’s behavior afterwards I highly doubt things went down according to the story he told. The guy is clearly a fool who goes looking for trouble.

  • allannon

    Even as a gun owner that sales listing irks me.

    This seems more like a stunt or troll than an effort to just sell something.

  • kevinp2

    Selling this firearm is not a classy act, and certainly does not appeal to the sensibilities of a certain crowd of people.

    But if you were railroaded into an unjust and politically motivated prosecution to appease the Al Sharpton mob, you may not care about other people’s sensibilities any more.

  • Vitsaus

    A little late on this one.

  • Right-wing Realist✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

    All hail our Lord Zimmerman, the great hispanic-jew Aryan Nazi, killer of innocent dindu babies!

  • Swarf

    George “I’m losing a fight I picked so I’ll shoot a kid” Zimmerman take himself, his ratchet life and all the bad press he’s generated for gun owners and disappear up his own ass.

  • john huscio

    I could care less what he does with his property…..he did put GB on the spot with this little stunt though.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    Too funny. And screw GunBroker for trying to placate Team Dindu.

    • Don Ward

      To quote a wise woman on GunBroker’s decision, “Ain’t Nobody Got Time For That!”

      • Don Ward

  • Dave Y

    I think Gunbroker did the wrong thing here. Frankly, I think their move was racist, plain and simple. We should not patronize a racist element within our constituency whether it’s white on black, black on white, or either of those 2 on Hispanic – or if you’re an NBC viewer a “White Hispanic”. Nor should we tolerate racism against other segments of society from within our community. Gunbroker should be ashamed of what they did here and we should be ashamed of them.

    News accounts certainly painted a very inflammatory picture with headlines “selling gun used to kill … [his attacker]” Of course, another way to say it is ‘G.Z. selling Kel-tec he used to save his life’ or ‘…to lawfully defend himself against a violent attacker’, and there are many more ways to say what happened that both better reflects the truth and tells the story. However the truth and telling the story doesn’t fit the media’s preferred narrative – such as NBC who desperately wanted to paint Z. as a caucasian but they could only half paint that picture. Then of course there’s those stubborn facts that came out at trial. Very few of which supported the media preferred narrative.

    I couldn’t care less that he’s trying to sell his Kel-tec, I don’t want it. I don’t know him or any of his attacker’s family. I understood that Mr. Zimmerman was acquitted of any criminal wrongdoing by a jury of his peers, so now he’s selling the gun.

    Good for him. it’s his, he bought it legally, used it legally to save his life.

  • Don Ward

    The TFB post isn’t going to end well…

    But good going GunBroker. Correct decision.

    • Agreed!

    • John Yossarian

      This pistol represents the American way of life – Our right to self-defense and our right to trial by jury – Rather than trial by propaganda and the braying of sheep.

      Reason and evidence conquered both the brutality of Trayvon Martin’s attack and that of the political class who seek tyranny in our land – Huzzah!

      • gusto

        still a douche move
        regardless if he was judged innocent or not the whole thing could have been handled way better by Zimmerman.

        it was a life lost and he should not be making a profit on it

        • John Yossarian

          He’s unemployable. In fact, Zimmerman’s reached such near-mythic levels of pariah-dom that it was the only thing a family was focused on as he helped them from their automobile wreck. They later joined the millions of other bullies in condemning their rescuer as a murderer.

          The man needs to make some money in order to live. He has suffered severe damages. This is an iconic firearm – representing Zimmerman’s right to life and ours – and deserves an iconic value. It’s like a firearm Declaration of Independence, guaranteeing our “rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

          Furthermore, people are willing to honor or compensate Zimmerman for his pain – Can you imagine the trauma of all the abuse he has been through? I have developed Complex-PTSD from the legal abuse I suffered within my divorce from a sociopathic woman. It can sometimes be crippling.

          The bullying of Zimmerman has reached fever pitch. Last year a psychotic Black Lives Matter supporter attempted to murder him. If he makes several million, that money can go toward his protection as well. He obviously needs much more than a single Kel-Tec and one man behind it.

          Can you believe the pain he must be going through as a pariah, and the trauma he has suffered from all the abuse? If I had $100 million to spare, I’d offer it right now to Zimmerman if he’d donate it it to ending legal abuse, which he has suffered far more from than I could ever imagine.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Are you having a stroke?

          • John Yossarian

            Both sides of my face say “No”. But if you keep eating that garbage that spews out of your boob tube, you’ll soon run out of cranial arteries to stuff it in. “Think for yourself ’cause I won’t be there for you.”

          • AirborneSoldier

            Turn off the news youll be much happier. It is all SSDD anyway. Who is the naacp race hustling this week?

          • AirborneSoldier

            Are u

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I might

          • smartacus

            he’s also having a conniption fit

          • Don Ward

            I would be more sympathetic with Mr. Zimmerman’s “plight” if he wasn’t Tweeting out pictures of himself like this. Legally, he is not guilty of any wrong-doing. That doesn’t mean we have to like him or his antics.

          • John Yossarian

            Duh – the guy’s not Jesus, nailed to the cross and forgiving his haters – But at least he’s not going after the millions of bullies who have caused him damages. “Living well is the best revenge.”

          • AirborneSoldier

            Antics? You will need them if you are ever in a shoot 8nvolving a minority. Careful what ya preach.

          • Dave stillman

            What’s the weather like in your world?

          • John Yossarian

            Fantastic – Nobody taking a piss on my leg and telling me it’s raining.

        • john4637

          Seems to me he is selling a gun, not a cadaver!

        • AirborneSoldier

          How?

      • Don Ward

        Nope.

    • Lee

      They forgot, “firearms not politics”.

    • AirborneSoldier

      Why? I disagree. We gotta stop tiptoing around pc. And this idea that zimmerman murdered the thig part of it. Hope he gets good dough to a semblance of a life back. The NAACP ruined it for him, along with sharpton and the rest. Good for George. God forbid any of you k8ll a non white in self defense, youll get the same treatment.

  • TJbrena

    Whether or not you believe George Zimmerman was justified in his actions in the sequence of events that led to the firestorm surrounding Trayvon Martin’s death, we can’t deny he’s an EXTREMELY polarizing figure. Anything he does is going to draw a lot of scrutiny, and this can blow back on us as gun owners.

    This is especially disconcerting since we haven’t had any major incidents to stir up anti-gun sentiment this year, and this is one of the best substitutes anti-gunners could ask for.

    Zimmerman attempting to make this about rights by using proceeds from the sale of his gun to fight anti-gun rhetoric and BLM seems like a cynical, self-aggrandizing cashgrab on his part. Why would anyone in their right mind want to spend serious cash on a crappy pistol used to kill some black kid to fund something when they could cut out the middleman? I could see buying a lever-action rifle used in some massacre of Native Americans in the Old West, because that’s a part of history, as nasty as it is.

    So regardless of who the “real” victim and “real” aggressor was that unfortunate night, it’s best we distance ourselves from something as toxic as the Trayvon-Zimmerman debate.

  • Anomanom

    Hmph. Well, i guess the law can’t prevent you from from being a big sack of dirt.

  • Madcap_Magician

    Why couldn’t he just put it on Armslist where all the other used Kel-Tecs are sold for $5,000?

  • gunsandrockets

    Epic trolling on the part of Zimmerman. It would be even better is some anti-gun or BLM nut actually pays the winning bid, because Zimmerman will use that money against them.

    Zimmerman is a case of an ordinary guy who has been swallowed up by the media monster and even forced to go throw a show-trial. The most comparable incident is dead-guy Richard Jewell, another poor bastard just trying to do the right thing and getting crucified for it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

    • n0truscotsman

      Further proof that the MSM are generally scumbags and their sensationalism has little room for actual factual reporting. They pretty much tell people what they want them to hear.

      The Duke Lacrosse scandal comes to mind as well.

      Its one thing to be slandered and convicted by public opinion because of another person’s volition. Its an entirely different animal to be slandered and convicted by public opinion because of a major corporation.

      • John Yossarian

        Don’t forget Michael Brown/BLM, Mizzou, Mattress Girl, trans-everything, fat-shaming activists, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. – It never ends.

        Don’t blame the corporations – They’re just making money, which is their right and their raison d’etre.

        Blame the politicians – Today’s agricultural-era shamans.

        “Sacrifice a virgin to the rain god!” used to be their favorite line.

        Now it’s “Commies – Terrorists – Global Warming – BLM anti-racists will kill you in your sleep if you don’t – Worship us and give us all your money!”

        Manipulating the real or imagined fears of the masses for their own elevated status. It’s the political-class and those around it (supplicants, useful idiots) who need to go away – Forever.

  • Can you please not become TTAG, TFB? We love you the way you are. We’re here for you.

    • We won’t— I really wasn’t wild about posting this but just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t news and shouldn’t be posted. Personally speaking Zimmerman is a jerk for doing this and I’m glad people are fouling up his little auction.

      • He’s probably unemployable at this point and needs the income. If the sale is ever consumated, I doubt much of the money will go to political causes.

        • I doubt it will either. Most likely just in his pocket.

          • tts

            Would locking the comments for controversial topics like this make sense or is it not worth the trouble?

          • I seriously considered it—–

        • Namal

          Well he could probably get a job in russia as security or police perhaps. Should have made it an international auction.

        • Tassiebush

          I don’t know much about the case but presume he’d be in a shi7load of legal fee debt.

      • Lee

        How is he a jerk for selling his gun on gunbroker? $5000 is a legitimate price for such a high profile firearm.

        • tts

          He is a jerk for his actions after the trial and some of them during (tried to portray himself as indigent when he had $200K+ in donations for trial money).

          Its not hard to google up the stuff he has done in just the last few years alone. Multiple domestic disturbances, a road rage fight, and stalking a guy to his work for minor crap.

          Only reason he isn’t in jail for all that is because in each instance the other people involved decided not to press charges. They just wanted away from the crazy.

          Even if you think his shooting was legit the guy is clearly a jerk.

        • smartacus

          oh you should see him and his writers leap to the defense of Fakebook andF uckerberg. Don’t you dare “respectfully have your own opinion” because opinion is treason when it comes to *uckbook

          • Lee

            F Facebook. I cut that cable years ago. Facebook is for women and effeminate males.

  • Two different situations which don’t compare very well.

  • Kristoff

    Well that’s the end of GunBroker for me.

  • Ike

    Firearms not politics please.

  • n0truscotsman

    Yep. First class scuzbucket.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    They sound like vigilante scum to me.

  • Kjk

    He’s just trying to make 100000% profit off his lousy keltec. If I could get $100,000 I’d do it too

  • Lee

    He used his gun in self defense, was tried by a jerk prosecuter, and was found not guilty. He did america a favor by taking out a bad guy and he has every right to sell his personal property on gunbroker.

  • Nashvone

    So…quit firing warning shots.

    • Ballan

      Quit firing warning shots, and shoot to kill instead, The American Way. (warning shots are used liberally in europe with a vastly lower death by cop rate)

      • john huscio

        Yep, fire a “warning shot”, hit someone’s kid, get charged for wrecklessness, go to prison. Sounds like a plan…..

  • Lee

    Yeah…they should of called 911 and listened to the 20 year old girl working an 8 hour dispatcher shift…telling them to walk away.

  • sb

    long tradition of selling murder/crime weapons….search for Gary Gilmore gun and let the bidding begin…..

  • jay

    I’m personally offended by all you nancy’s posting here. As I previously posted on this subject:
    “I may not want to own the fire arm, but someone else may. It’s his
    property, to legally dispose of any way he wants. And since the news
    media has hounded and destroyed his life, maybe, just maybe, he needs
    the money more than the firearm. It is a tool after all. Although if
    the news media leaks his whereabouts again, I’m sure he’ll need a
    firearm to protect himself from the blm and other nutcases. So all you
    against him selling his property, tough luck cupcakes.”

    • tts

      He can sell his own property. No one has an issue with that per se. He could do that any time he wants at any pawn shop though. He could even sell it with a signed paper as proof that it was the gun that shot Treyvon for extra money if he liked. All done relatively privately and quickly without any fuss.

      He has however chosen to sell the gun under his own name in a public fashion while also emphasizing it was the gun that shot Treyvon. He is clearly attention whoring at this point. That is what people are responding to. And that point what you’re not addressing.

      • jay

        I don’t consider it whoring. He’s been punished by our society for defending his own life. Why shouldn’t he make what the market will support for an iconic firearm? Or is he only allowed to get the $300 or so, for what this model of used firearm will bring? And without “advertising” this sale, how would he get anything more than the $300? Frankly he’s been very discrete and low key in his statements about the handgun. So are you anti capitalist, a hopolophobe, or just against the sale for “moral” reasons? And if you are against the sale for so called moral reasons, you should be more upset by what our society has done to him, and any other citizen for defending their lives with a firearm.

  • tts

    Dude you sound like a lawyer or a politician: giving smarmy sarcastic comments and saying she isn’t a witness while then using her testimony to say she was “helping” Zimmerman.

    You also do not have to actually be there seeing a crime with your own eyes to be a “eyewitness” you realize that right? You can overhear something too. Some of the other eyewitnesses in the trial offered information by overhearing it as well you know. Their testimony was also allowed in court. In this case she acted as a witness due to hearing part of what happened on the phone as it happened.

    Again her testimony was allowed in court and accepted by the court and defense.

    • And it all boils down to he won kiddo, becuase your version of how things shoulda coulda, woulda played out was ultimately rejected by more critical thinkers less prone to stage one thinking who followed the facts to the logical conclusion. Which was he was under assault, in fear for his life, hadn’t struck the first blow and had the right to stop it with whatever means necessary. That is what was finally concluded within a reasonable doubt. Get over it.

      • tts

        My version of things? What are you talking about dude? You’re the one making up stuff saying he was getting beaten to death remember?

        And he squeaked out of a conviction because the bar for a guilty verdict is high and because FL’s Stand Your Ground law allows for ridiculous outcomes.

        • Absolutely nothing to do with stand your ground laws. Which were never cited. It was straight up self defense. Stand your ground law was only brought up by the media. Syg law was not evoked by the defense becuase they contended he was on his back being beaten to death which means he wasn’t mobile couldn’t get away and therefore couldn’t retreat.
          Your just waiving your arms wildly at this point.

        • 1911a145acp

          Wrong wrong and wrong. He was assaulted, it is possible that he was not beaten to death because he shot his assaulter and successfully defended himself. Stand your ground law defense was WAIVED before the trial, FL Stand your ground law has NO BEARING on this case outcome.

      • Bill

        There’s a HUGE difference between “Not Guilty” and “Innocent.” Look up Blackstone’s Formulation.

    • Would it help if we designated this a safe space for ya champ?

  • Nigel Tolley

    ‘Fund a fight against the “Black Lives Matter” movement which is violent towards police.’
    Yep, you can, every day, see the BLM protesters in body armour walking along the protest lines, pepper spraying the seated unresisting police.

    • john huscio

      They like spewing their hate of white people to anyone within earshot…. They are potentially dangerous….. Hell, they block highways and harrass people as it is.

      • Nigel Tolley

        I thought the First Amendment applied to everyone equally?

        • john huscio

          You can say what you want, but you can’t physically prevent people from going about their daily business.

  • Joshjp

    George Zimmerman is a disgrace, he went out looking for a fight. And how is he gonna fight for gun rights? People like him are the reason we’re gonna lose the right to bear arms.

    • Machinegunnertim

      Sounds like you bought in to the Liberal media crap. He didn’t go looking for a fight. There are many comments on this page that present exactly why and what happened.

      Many of us here carry a firearm to protect ourselves from thugs like Trayvon. And Zimm saved his life with this one. One defensive gun use isn’t going to strip us of our constitutional rights.

  • Bill

    “…why often times, there are no ‘good guys’.”

    Indeed – people are chronic binary thinkers and insist on things being literally black and white. Many, many cases involve actors who are just Bad and Worse, or Dumb and Dumber.

  • John Yossarian

    I’m only responsible for my own comments, thank you very much.

    Yes – I do maintain that Zimmerman deserves the benefit of the doubt regarding the domestic disputes. Due process is guaranteed to us in the Constitution, and if all those charges were dismissed – typically by the ones who filled them – then who are you to say they bore merit?

    Zimmerman killed Martin while defending his own life – Stopping the attack – Something that any person should do when faced with the threat of death or severe bodily harm. The right to life is a right worth defending. With the ferocity brought against Zimmerman to strip him of that right, his case deserves iconic status.

  • CissyScum

    You can’t flim-flam the Zim-Zam, nor can you simmer the Zimmer.

  • john4637

    Found not guilty in court, firearm rightly returned to owner. No crime committed by gun owner for defending himself from felonious assault. Used to be the Land of the Free, whats going on?

    • Don Ward

      Nope. But we have the right not to associate with azzholes.

      • john4637

        Exactly, you play your games and nitwit will play his. No one is forcing you to play together!

  • UCSPanther

    This pistol should be in a museum. It is a historical artifact of this age.

  • guest

    The listing was dropped simply became a hot potato because one of “america’s greatest sons” (if I remember that quote correctly) got clipped for being uppity and attacking a neigborhood watchmen… who was unanimously aquitted, but that did not stop 100000000 liberal and other anuses from simultaniously detonating in rage.

    And of cource as the story ALWAYS goes, an inanimate object has been (yet again…) given attributes reserved to people, this time it is “the gun of genocide against african-americans” or some nonsense like that.
    The same people will of cource never complain about a gazillion guns being shuffled around in the “hood”.

  • jay

    I don’t think its attention whoring, because this is the only way he’ll get any real money out of the sale of this firearm. Yes you have pointed out other methods where everything would be “discrete”. But the sale would bring no real money. How would you get others to purchase the firearm without it being made public knowledge? And yes, pawn shops are free market. They give you as little as they can ($300, maybe?), and you take it or leave it. Usually people take it because they are desperate for the money. Although some pawn shops do sell on consignment. Can you imagine the negative press they’d get from the lib progs (and oh so sensitive gun owners)? They’d try to put the pawn shop out of business. As for the advertising, Zimmerman said that this was the firearm he used to defend his life. He didn’t list it as “the gun used to kill trayvon martin”. That was the writings of this particular author, and other prog libs authors who have written about this subject, trying to cause an uproar. As for the discrete canard, well, let’s face it, there is no true discretion in trying to sell a firearm that has been this publicized. Is there? Your last paragraph I won’t go into. It’s just a statement of your perceiving his guilt, and his actions reinforcing said guilt.
    I hope he does sell it, and makes a lot of money. But I’m finished arguing about this, as you are more invested in his perceived guilt (real or not). I believe he has every right to sell the firearm, even world wide on the internet. So we can agree to disagree.

  • Mikial

    I personally think auctioning off the gun is in poor taste, and the site has deleted the auction. Just as well.

    As for the actual incident, Martin was a punk but Zimmerman should have followed the advice of the 911 dispatcher and stayed home and let the police handle it. He may have been Neighborhood Watch, but he went out there looking for a confrontation and he found one. Then when he couldn’t handle it, he had to resort to deadly force to save his own life.

    Anyone who carries responsibly knows you have to be prepared to defend yourself but you don’t go out looking for a confrontation. There’s no question in my mind that Martin was a punk, but Zimmerman wasn’t any better to initiate the situation. Consequently, owning his gun isn’t high on my bucket list.

    Having said all that, if he wants to sell his gun and there is someone who wants to buy it . . . then fine. Who cares? He should try Craigslist.

  • MrEllis

    Way to keep it classy, internet. Oddly enough, it’s pretty easy to pick the people who identify with Zimmerman…

  • JW

    TFB… I’ll point you to your logo on the top of this page… “FIREARMS, NOT POLITICS.”

  • smartacus

    Hey GunBroker! You just eulogized yourselves!

    You want to avoid politically incorrect attention,
    but all you just did was OPEN THE FLOODGATES TO IT.

    if you can fold without anyone asking,
    they WILL start asking.

    They will not hold back until you are complaint-bullied into banning controversial assault rifle auctions, then high capacity mags…then airsoft.

  • gunsandrockets

    Riiiight, Zimmerman brought on himself the nut who stalked him and tried to shoot him.

  • A head wound, even a minor one, bleeds like crazy it’s a very vascular area.

  • Hard to know the answer to that one.