Mariana Islands Taxing $1,000 for Handguns

Mariana Islands

The Mariana Islands are a US controlled territory often forgotten, but now they have everyone’s attention. This small set of islands far off in the Pacific ocean passed a Senate Bill which is drawing a lot of criticism. As of April 11th, all new handgun sales are subject to a $1,000.00 tax. The governor of the islands, Ralph Torres, has since defended his position on passing the bill, and even suggested that this could be a model for others (referring to states in the U.S.).

This act has many repercussions for the residents of the Mariana Islands and us in the United States. For those on the islands, it essentially strips away the ability to buy a firearm. It makes purchasing a handgun a rich man’s game. You can no longer buy a Hi-Point out-the-door for $200. Now it’s $1,200! Many view it as economic discrimination. If you can’t pay the outrageous tax then you’ll have to find other means to defend yourself and your family.

An immediate thought is that this is an act of gun control. This is not far from the truth. Governor Torres is essentially trying to legislate what economic classes can purchase handguns under the veil of creating “safer communities.” Sadly, disarming law abiding citizens has never slowed criminals, but only gives them free range knowing people have less means to defend themselves.

Why this law is dangerous for firearm enthusiasts in the US is it sets a precedent that this type of tax is “OK.” Many states who are less tolerant of firearms may adopt similar laws or more drastic ones.

Seattle has already seen a witch-hunt tax of $25 per firearm sale and the tax allegedly goes to gun violence research. Cook County (Chicago, Illinois) will see a 1¢ – 5¢ per round tax on ammunition starting in June in addition to a $25 gun tax on new sales.

What is more concerning is Democratic, front-runner Hillary Clinton has already given her stamp of approval for the $1,000 tax. She has always been in support of taxing firearms, but this is the most recent, vocal support she has displayed. This has a lot of people on edge considering she could become our president in 9 months.

U.S. District Court Chief Judge Ramona Manglona has already condemned the tax’s unconstitutional nature, but no action has resulted yet.



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  • Jim

    I smell BS

    • randomswede

      I was going to say it smells like politics and not firearms in here, we may both be right.

  • punative taxes should be illegal

  • Bill

    The Chicago taxes are currently being challenged in court. Using taxes to control guns is far from a done deal. Seeing as how the Supreme Court has ruled that the 2A is an individual right, I think there is a good chance these tax laws will get struck down.

    • Bill

      I’m a different Bill, and agree with this Bill. The fact that a Federal Judge is publicly disagreeing with it (which is highly weird, because judges don’t normally express opinions about laws without cases in front of them) speaks volumes.

      • Dan

        I agree with the above Bills that this bill is stupid

        • CountryBoy

          I’m not a Bill, not even a three-dollar Bill, but I’ve been equally surprised that the SC has rumbled about this, especially given the absence of Justice Scalia (RIP, Antonin). They are usually very close-to-the-vest about things like this.

          You’d almost think they learned from Heller!

    • Audie Bakerson

      “Using taxes to control guns is far from a done deal.”

      Aside from that law they passed in 1938 we haven’t gotten rid of yet…

      • Cobranut

        1934, but otherwise, you’re right.

    • USMC03Vet

      Irrelevant. Politicians will keep passing them and ignoring the law until the law eventually gives in.

      • AirborneSoldier

        True dat

  • Bill

    OK, now this is politics.

    • David W.

      I was wondering when someone was going to say that. I mean I don’t because the law in question is just crazy enough to be newsworthy. But yea, TOTALLY politics.

    • BattleshipGrey

      It’s only politics because politicians are playing politics, but it has very real consequences that are relevant to our hobby and wallets. It’s a law that’s currently in place, not just some proposed legislation that may or may not get passed.

      • Bill

        It’s a law that will last until it’s first legal challenge. It’s a demonstration of how desperate antis can be when they are loosing. The law banning handguns outright was overturned as Unconstitutional, so they try this tack. Would you prefer they back up to their previous total ban?

        How many people here even knew anything about Marianas gun laws prior to this?

        • BattleshipGrey

          I was merely justifying the article’s existence on a site whose tag line is “firearms not politics”. Politics are at play in the story, but not in its posting. It’s simply an awareness article that’s currently affecting people’s gun rights. Obviously I don’t want excessive taxes (or any really) or bans on guns.

          • Bill

            TomAto, tomato – maybe “politics” should include “legal, ” as that’s the way the system works, at least in the States.

        • Donnie Robertson

          BILL I did NOT even know they EXISTED before this fiasco!

    • Rock or Something

      Ordinarily, I would have considered this law or legal news (like previous reporting on reciprocity agreements being suspended between different states). But since the author added in political commentary to it (no matter how insightful) than yes it becomes political. And I’m usually not the first to browbeat and yell “HEY, NOT POLITICS!”

    • AirborneSoldier

      So? Men have died sine 1774 so you could do something or be skeered

  • John

    Seattle also has a 5 cent tax on each round of ammunition. Because of it, there are no longer any shops in the city and people have to go further for ammo. Thing is WA’s constitution says that only the state has the right to tax ammunition, but even after citing this a king county judge upheld the tax.

    • Bill

      …and that’s why you have higher courts of appeal, to undo stupid lower court tricks.

    • Donnie Robertson

      I think there is a NEED for BLACK MARKET AMMO AT FAIR PRICES! Not a BIG profit …. just cover my FUEL COST when delivery is made!

      • bobfairlane

        Aye, but be careful how you advertise. There’s probably some nasty law about “interstate commerce” or something that will be used against you.

    • bobfairlane

      What about if you buy online and have it shipped? Screw Seattle gov then. hahahha.

  • Bill

    A little research shows that this is the result of the mentioned judge ruling that the island’s outright ban on handguns was Unconstitutional, so it’s highly likely that this won’t hold up to judicial scrutiny. I mean, like 1,000% likely, particularly in light of Heller.

    Politicians can say and do what they want, until the courts jerk their chains and pull them up short, like the gun confiscations during Katrina. As much as some people absolutely refuse to believe it, the system mostly works, most of the time, and is far better than the alternatives.

    • Tassiebush

      Are you suggesting that actioning one’s rights through legal recourse and political action in a democratic framework shaped by one of the best constitutions around is a better choice than violent revolution? How dare you! 😉

      • Bill

        I know, I know, I’m a Quisling apologist statist transgender bathroom advocate Hilary supporter planted by the UN and George Soros to pave the way for UN confiscation of all our guns, including the staple and Nerf ones.

        • Cory C

          You guys are smart. You guys are rational. I like you guys. Haha.

        • tabmpierce

          That has got to be one of the funniest well thought out post I have seen in a while.

        • Donnie Robertson

          DAMN BILL……….. that’s a LOT to take on for one guy! YA NEED SOME HELP! The Peoples WELL ARMED MILITIA of NEW MEXICO …. Corrales Division will gladly assist in the overthrow! ANYTHING to stop the madness! AMMO? WE GOT AMMO!

          • AirborneSoldier

            Hes a useful idiot for the globalist marxists, not on your side

        • AirborneSoldier

          Joke all you want.
          are you as free as you were 50 yrs ago?
          are the states as strong?
          does an 8ndividual have real recourse anymore. Not unless they are wealthy. Are the feds after you for things that 50 years ago sparked real unrest? They can destroy you. Enjoy your pre 1898 guns. All you will have soon.

          • Bill

            Yes
            More
            Yes
            No
            No
            Sure
            OK
            No

      • AirborneSoldier

        It is, but i fear we are too far away. The left will not compromise. They desire totalitarianism. Heck, its here now

        • Bill

          “That escalated quickly”

        • Tassiebush

          I agree there are some worrying trends and tendencies. My point is as much about saying don’t neglect plan a and b because we’re too busy thinking of plan c. use the political and legal avenues to defend your rights.

  • MrEllis

    Settle down.

  • Kirk Newsted

    This would appear to be unconstitutional; you can’t tax or charge for the exercise of a right.

    • MrEllis

      The Constitution doesn’t apply there. You are nor protected by it, just universal basic rights. It is an Unincorporated Organized Territory.

      • Jim

        Oh but you are so wrong! You are a US Citizen if you are born there with all the rights of a Citizen, including protection under the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. After WWII the Government of Guam actually set up there Government by copying almost all of Calif. law at that time. Guam and the Marina Islands are a US Territory by law, just as PR and the US Virgin Islands are.

        • MrEllis

          No, sir, I am correct. You are not protected by the Constitution where this law is being passed. You are granted some “rights” but it’s vague as to what those are. “Unincorporated” means they are not incorporated into the Constitutional boundaries. “Organized” means they are self governing. And, “Territory” means we sort of want to own it.

          You are a US citizen but you have no right to representation. You can move freely about the US but you can’t have a a voting Congress member. That’s one of the more obvious signs.

          Check out the vid I posted above, it explains the differences.

          • port

            Only state residents can vote for federal office positions, that much is true. The statement that civil rights do not apply is factually incorrect. Applicable federal laws and the US Constitution reing supreme in all federal territories.

          • MrEllis

            They have their own Constitution and they have their own Supreme Court. Parts of The Constitution apply universally, the 2nd Amendment is not one of them. No case can be taken to our Supreme Court unless their government petitions the Federal Court system. And it’s never been for Constitutional law. Only territorial and trade disputes have been pushed that way.

            The U.S. Constitution only applies fully to “Incorporated” territories. Hope this clears things up.

          • Bill

            I believe that, like American Samoa and the US Virging Islands, they are insular areas that fall under 18 USC 7: Special Maritime & Territorial Jurisdiction which would invoke the Supremacy Clause and result in at least partially concurrent jurisdiction with the local authorities.

          • MrEllis

            Law is not based on belief.

          • Bill

            OK, they ARE insular areas….

          • AirborneSoldier

            You are quite wrong. Congress has all oversight of territories. They have a SC, but still the USC, worthless as they are, created their current form of governance to free them from daily matters. Like a state, but not.

          • MrEllis

            Airborne, 100% correct here, sir. I’ll provide you the information again:

            “They have their own Constitution and they have their own Supreme Court. Parts of The Constitution apply universally, the 2nd Amendment is not one of them. No case can be taken to our Supreme Court unless their government petitions the Federal Court system. And it’s never been for Constitutional law. Only territorial and trade disputes have been pushed that way.

            The U.S. Constitution only applies fully to “Incorporated” territories. Hope this clears things up.”

            Also I will include a link with their Constitution. No need to apologize, no one else has bothered and let’s face it, it’s not really about that on the internet.

          • Bill

            Each State has it’s own Constitution and Supreme Court, but the Supremacy Clause still applies. EVERYONE has to petition the Federal Courts to take their cases on appeal from a lower court.

          • MrEllis

            The difference is they never do for internal matters only trade and treaty.

          • MrEllis

            Recognized by the United Nations?

          • Bill

            What does that have to do with whether or not the US Constitution applies to a US territory?

            Try: “highest court(s): Supreme Court of the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianna Islands or CNMI (consists of the chief justice and 2 associate justices); US Federal District Court (consists of 1 judge); note – US Federal District Court jurisdiction limited to US federal laws; appeals beyond the Northern Mariannas Islands Supreme Court are referred to the US Supreme Court”

            “Chief of state: President Barack H. OBAMA (since 20 January 2009); Vice President Joseph R. BIDEN (since 20 January 2009)”

            “Legal System: US system applies, except for customs, wages, immigration laws, and taxation”

            Source: The CIA World FactBook

          • Steve_7

            Unincorporated does mean the Constitution doesn’t apply there but in reality means the Constitution applies there with certain exceptions. No populated territory completely excepts themselves from coverage, they only have some limited exceptions.
            The only real place left in the US that is really different from the rest of the US is American Samoa because they decided they didn’t want an organic Act passed by Congress, iirc because they wanted to retain full control of their land. So they are US nationals, rather than citizens, unless they naturalize or inherit US citizenship from a parent.

        • Donnie Robertson

          JIM I HOPE YOU ARE CORRECT!

          • MrEllis

            Hope is not a good form of fact checking.

      • Steve_7

        No that’s wrong, they have a covenant with the US which applies most of the Constitution there, the main exception being the Sixth Amendment. Read the judgement, that was covered by the ruling.
        They do have their own Customs law, which is why they can impose import duties but this plainly violates the Second Amendment.

        • MrEllis

          They are in no way, shape or form covered by the 2nd Amendment.

          • Steve_7

            It’s well established that people who reside in territories have the same rights as people who live in States, that’s what 42 USC 1981 et seq. were enacted for. (The Civil Rights Act).

        • MrEllis

          Look up “Incorporated” and Unincorporated” territories.

        • MrEllis

          Sorry, you misunderstand what that implies. This is exactly the bits they have extracted from the Constitution.

          U.S. Law, Applicability of

          —Constitution: Particular Provisions Seventh Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, concerning right to jury trial in civil actions, applies within the Commonwealth. Covenant § 501(a). Santos v. Nansay Micronesia, Inc., 4 N.M.I. 155 (1994), appeal dismissed, 76 F.3d 299 (9th Cir. 1996).

          Double Jeopardy Clause of Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, providing that no person shall be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, is applicable to the Commonwealth. Covenant § 501(a). Commonwealth v. Oden, 3 N.M.I. 186 (1992), aff’d, 19 F.3d 26 (9th Cir. 1994).

          The Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is made applicable to the Commonwealth by Covenant § 501(a). Commonwealth v. Hanada, 2 N.M.I. 343 (1991).

          Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution has been made applicable to the Commonwealth pursuant to Covenant § 501(a). In re “C.T.M.,” 1 N.M.I. 410 (1990).

          (b) The applicability of certain provisions of the Constitution of the United States to the Northern Mariana Islands will be without prejudice to the validity of and the power of the Congress of the United States to consent to Sections 203, 506 and 805 and the proviso in Subsection (a) of this Section.

    • AirborneSoldier

      Now YOU paid atenntion in civics and history

  • Geoffry K

    They were sued over the hangun ban and the Court said the handgun ban was unconstitutional, so they just made it impossible to buy one.
    Now another lawsuit is needed to overturn the tax.
    That’s how it works, folks.
    Government can pass any law they want, even an unconstitutional law and it will be the law until someone files a lawsuit and it drags through the Courts for years until a Judge strikes it down.

    • Bill

      Somebody was awake during civics class. Checks and balances.

      • Norm Glitz

        ” but no action has resulted yet.”

        Surprise surprise!

        • hunkahunka

          What idiots can screw up in just a few minutes can take sane people weeks or months to undo. E.g. vandalism, riots, shootings & cuttings. I.S.I.L. is trained in all the above. They have no moral compass such as true Christians have as their compass points S.E. toward Mecca instead of polar north or polar south like ours. In addition, we as a nation have raised a generation of vipers which act like Vandals…the old timey type.

          • Donnie Robertson

            The VIPERS and VANDALS will be the greatest fear I see. The criminals will have NO qualms about burglary after burglary and all it will take is one person defending his / her property to bring the full wrath of the likes of HILLARY THE MURDERER CLINTON down on what was once a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN!

            IF they want to “GET US” they WILL do so. THAT IS WHY we must get out and vote for the candidates who have already PROTECTED OUR RIGHTS! Personally – I am a TRUMP follower and in spite of him NOT being a political prostitutes like the others I TRUST he will FIGHT FOR OUR OWN RIGHTS AND HE WILL DO SO FROM DAY ONE! Hillary will do the opposite ALSO FROM DAY ONE! WE NEED TRUMP — NOT HILLARY!

          • AirborneSoldier

            First the .dtgov will make your guns illegal, oh youcan keep the old civil war gun, but dont commit the crime of self defense

          • bobfairlane

            Christ-stains have terrible morals. They are anti-white, and worship an imaginary devil and a “god” who commits genocide and sex trafficking according to their “holy book”.

          • Bill

            I have no idea of what point you are trying to make, and our compasses point towards the Northern Magnetic Pole, which is usually a couple hundred miles from the geographic North Pole

      • AirborneSoldier

        Wrong. Exhorbitant and punitive taxes were NEVER intended to suppress a right. Lets issue everyone a free speech card for 1k, til then you must BE QUIET

    • AirborneSoldier

      This is how it works when we allow it

    • Steve_7

      They can’t pass any law they want; this is essentially an excise tax on import, which is only legal because the CNMI is a territory and has its own Customs Dept. A State cannot impose import taxes, it’s prohibited by the Constitution.
      And when I say “legal”, this is almost certainly going to be struck down anyway, just under the Second Amendment. The fact the judge who struck down the handgun ban already doesn’t like it means it won’t last long. And it has a sunset clause of one-year anyway.

  • Ray S.

    This is a U.S. territory NOT a state. Sort of like Puerto Rico and Guam, both of which also have strict laws on firearms but cannot control the skyrocketing crime and drug smuggling happening under their noses. No U.S. territory has ever passed a law or tax that later was modeled in the states. Try passing this in the U.S. and it will be met with much resistance.

    • bobfairlane

      Yeah, didn’t they get full autos, too?

  • john huscio

    Pro 2A folks should move there en masse, vote out these idiots and vote in gun friendly politicians…..kind of a reverse-california if you will.

    • De Facto

      Or a reverse Texas/Colorado. I like it.

    • bobfairlane

      It probably costs 5,000 just to fly there, and the houses there are probably only for the mega rich. If you’re thinking of perhaps taking them over by launching boats and using force, remember what happened to Don Black in the 1980s, when the USgov came down on him for invading a territory.

  • Cal.Bar

    Nothing new. In 1934 when the NFA was passed the tax on NFA items was $200 (just like today) but in 1934 dollars it was closer to $1,000.00. In other words they wanted to make NFA items too expensive for most people to get. They just forgot to add a cost of living increase in the tax.

  • Wanderlust

    Boycott! No Mariana sauce for anyone! oh wait that comes from somewhere else….

    • Donnie Robertson

      MARY-KNARA-SAUCE! Let’s go EAT!

      • Secundius

        GDP is ~$715.0-Million USD with a Population of ~55-Thousand. I Don’t Think Their To Worried About Being Boycotted…

  • Kristoff

    I wonder how the surfing is out there…

  • Mr. Mars

    Libs are the real fascists.

  • Cymond

    TFB, where discussion of gun control, anti-gun legislation, and the stances of political candidates is somehow still not considered political.

  • Matt Lamoureux

    Makes perfect sense – lets have the only people with guns be the police, criminals, and rich people. The poor and middle class don’t need them anyway – they don’t have enough possessions to bother protecting themselves, nor enough free time to be out having fun with firearms…

  • valorius

    the supreme court has already held in the obamacare case that the govt can tax literally anything. :-/

    • bobfairlane

      They tax everything already, by giving away trillions of dollars a year in “foreign aid”, aiding and abetting illegal aliens and giving them tons of freebies and free education, and by causing rampant inflation year after year, making your work pay less and your property worth less.

  • valorius

    In my city they’re trying to pass a tax on sugared drinks (soda, sports drinks, etc) of three cents per OUNCE.

    • Donnie Robertson

      WHAT? Did that HOOK-NOSE-DUDE from New Your move there; The BLOOMING-BERG bastard!? Now THERE is a guy who needs a good ass kicking!

  • John Yossarian

    Arbitrarily inflating the price of handguns – like the $1200 Hi-Point – Only ensures an even greater black market and increased crime. Obviously, that’s exactly what the politicians are “gunning for”.

    Without real or imagined fears to be quelled – like the tealeaf-reading, virgin-sacrificing agricultural priests of old – these leeches upon society would be out of business!

  • Jim

    I lived on Guam a ear while serving I the US Navy d it was a wonderful place! I even bought 2 handguns and a rifle and a shotgun while there and took them home with me..

  • Jim

    I lived on Guam for a year while serving in the US Navy and found it to be a wonderful place with great people. I also was able to purchase 2 handguns, a rifle and a shotgun while there. I sold one handgun and the shotgun before leaving and kept the other two firearms. Plenty of firing ranges and places to safely fire a weapon on that island. This $1000 tax is WRONG and should be declared illegal.

  • Phillip Cooper

    The very fact that damn woman is even able to run for president given all her questionable activities is a travesty .

  • Secundius

    The Mariana Ilands, are Quasi-Independent Islands that are A USA Protectorate. The only Authorization the US have, is Immagration and Border Control. Everything else is Local Governmentally Controled…

  • Benjamin Goldstein

    And i thought my country was absurd.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    I wonder if the Clinton Foundation owns them?

  • Fern Galooth

    I think a $1,000 tax on the purchase of your 1,000th firearm might be OK. Until that 1,000th purchase, however, guns should not only be tax free, but the Federal Government should subsidize purchases of Firearms for the needy. Taxing gun sales is a direct violation of the 2nd Amendment and I am somewhat amazed that it hasn’t been challenged in the courts.

    • bobfairlane

      Nah, gun dealers pay enough taxes already.

  • hunkahunka

    This is eggzackly what the New World Order elitists, who are mostly world leftists, want; they are the only ones who want to be able to afford self-protection or through executive order exemptions for their friends and family to wave to fees, all to keep “the masses” under control by depriving them of their right to own a firearm. Meanwhile the electorate are supplied protection at taxpayer expense; so the taxes on the firearms help pay for guns, ammo, training, and wages for the security of the ones we elect. Once the masses have no real means of protection except pitchforks and axes, the elimination of certain chosen segments of the population will begin. Taxation without representation is still illegal; but Americans have accepted it. We get taxes and fees on all our utility bills and there is NO place to deduct that from your taxes…last year I paid $712 in taxes and fees which I did not vote for nor approve in combination on all my utility bills. I voted for a $7.2 Million dollar millage tax, which in itself is discriminatory because you have to own property before you get taxed; but, I voted for it; then this…these bureaus took it upon themselves to add other taxes and other fees onto all my utility bills…I am quite sure that there are others like me who are in this boat. But, when I contacted my state representative and state senator concerning this 3 different times…on the 4th time with NO answer from either, my emails to them were blocked and my phone number to their office was also blocked. What, I may I ask gives elected officials the right NOT to listen to constituents? It is now well past time for the average Joe Blow citizen to get involved in politics and get responsible government officials elected.

    • Donnie Robertson

      FORTY YEARS AGO they said i was NUTS when I explained the “NEW WORLD ORDER” ……. now it is here and they still do NOT nderstand!

      REVOLUTION! “This is eggzackly what the New World Order elitists, who are mostly world leftists, want; they are the only ones who want to be able to afford self-protection or through executive order exemptions for their friends and family to wave to fees, all to keep “the masses” under control by depriving them of their right to own a firearm.” REVOLUTION REVOLUTION AT ANY AND ALL COST!

  • John

    Let’s see, they tried a ban on alcohol during prohibition, and what they ended up with was
    gangs, killing, crime, & corruption associated with it.
    And all the cost in policing, prosecuting, and imprisoning people.

    Then they tried a War On Drugs, and what they ended up with was gangs, killing, crime, & corruption associated with it.
    And all the cost in policing, prosecuting, and imprisoning people.

    I have to wonder what this will end up like….

  • RPK

    Bunch of commie rats. Love your country…do NOT trust your Government!

  • Donnie Robertson

    “…front-runner Hillary Clinton has already given her stamp of approval for the $1,000 tax. She has always been in support of taxing firearms, but this is the most recent, vocal support she has displayed. This has a lot of people on edge considering she could become our president in 9 months.”

    IF Hillary is able to get her sorry self ELECTED it seems as if any and ALL idiotic new laws / taxes will be added to the cost of new firearms. The BLACK MARKET will explode with firearms priced at FAIR PRICES even with the idiotic TAX in place. The down side is manufacturers will not be able to profit. That’s LOGICAL right?

    I see the GOVERNMENT (MILITARY) PAYING THROUGH the nose for weapons THEY NEED! POLICE? Same thing! TAXES WILL SOAR ON ALL FRONTS! WE MUST STOP HILLARY! WE MUST! GET OUT AND VOTE!

  • Tothe

    Imagine if your “right to vote” were subject to a tax… Wait, that isn’t even in the Bill of Rights, and it’s illegal to tax it IIRC.

    • bobfairlane

      It’s been done before. “poll taxes”

      • Tothe

        I know. And the courts declared that “unconstitutional.”

  • AirborneSoldier

    This only happens when gun owners elect liberal commies. Go to mettings. Kill these bills early. Organize. Get 8n their face. Heck make friends with the fence sitters, take em to lunch and shooting

  • bobfairlane

    Taxes and more taxes…..the Joys of Die-versity.

  • Rocketman

    This has been done before. Back in the 1920’s racist politicians (mostly democrats) put a tax on handguns down in the deep south so that black people couldn’t afford to purchase handguns. They didn’t want the blacks to own guns because then they would be able to halfway protect themselves from the KKK. Just goes to show how deep racism runs in democrat roots.

  • Allan

    this won’t pass a constitutional challenge, think poll tax , paying a tax to exercise a constitutional individual right, and the NFA act of 1934 probably wouldn’t either , but if another anti gun supreme court justice is appointed then anything goes.

  • Steve_7

    Yeah, no _automatic_ recognition of the Constitution but the populated territories do have agreements with the US to recognize most of it.

    • MrEllis

      Northern Mariana Islands does not recognize the 2nd Amendment.

  • Just1Saddletramp

    Excessive taxation without representation was the key issue for the American Colonies
    in 1776. Just a brief history lesson

  • MrEllis

    Some people seem to misunderstand what is being said, in fact all hand guns are banned there and longarms may only be owned by permit.

    This is in fact what they have adopted from the US Constitution:

    U.S. Law, Applicability of

    —Constitution: Particular Provisions Seventh Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, concerning right to jury trial in civil actions, applies within the Commonwealth. Covenant § 501(a). Santos v. Nansay Micronesia, Inc., 4 N.M.I. 155 (1994), appeal dismissed, 76 F.3d 299 (9th Cir. 1996).

    Double Jeopardy Clause of Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, providing that no person shall be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, is applicable to the Commonwealth. Covenant § 501(a). Commonwealth v. Oden, 3 N.M.I. 186 (1992), aff’d, 19 F.3d 26 (9th Cir. 1994).

    The Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is made applicable to the Commonwealth by Covenant § 501(a). Commonwealth v. Hanada, 2 N.M.I. 343 (1991).

    Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution has been made applicable to the Commonwealth pursuant to Covenant § 501(a). In re “C.T.M.,” 1 N.M.I. 410 (1990).

    (b) The applicability of certain provisions of the Constitution of the United States to the Northern Mariana Islands will be without prejudice to the validity of and the power of the Congress of the United States to consent to Sections 203, 506 and 805 and the proviso in Subsection (a) of this Section.

    ***IMPORTANT PART AHEAD HERE***

    Other provisions of or amendments to the Constitution of the United States, which do not apply of their own force within the Northern Mariana Islands, will be applicable within the Northern Mariana Islands only with the approval of the Government of the Northern Mariana Islands and of the Government of the United States.

    This means The Constitution does not apply unless they empower parts of it to apply. The government there must sign off on what parts they wish to be enforced in their territory. States may not do that, even though they try. See: marriage and abortion. The Constitution acts with force in every state of The Union and does not require the state to empower it or ratify it. States have tried to interpret the Constitution as they see fit and that’s a different matter.

  • Great_Baldung

    I’m not defending him – far from it – but least this Ralph Torres shows his bullshit up-front and not making “training courses” and “licensing” that ultimately would cost people just as much.