BREAKING: Is Kriss Group (Swiss) Going Bankrupt? (UPDATE: KRISS USA to Takeover Swiss Business)

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Manufacturer of the Vector submachine gun, and parent company to Sphinx System AG, makers of high-end CZ 75 handgun derivative, may be in financial trouble. At the end of 2015, Sphinx System AG was declared bankrupt; now its parent company may be in danger as well due to court-ordered restructuring. From DWJ.de:

After the Sphinx System AG, a Swiss manufacturer of Sphinx pistols has already gone bankrupt, now puts the parent company, Kriss, in major financial difficulties. An administrator appointed by the court.

After belonging to the Kriss group Sphinx Systems AG, manufacturer of the famous Sphinx pistols, has been declared bankrupt on 30.11.2015, now called the provisional debt restructuring moratorium was for the two other companies of the group, the Kriss International AG and the Kriss Systems AG, ordered by the court. If a Swiss company gets into financial difficulties, it may request to avoid bankruptcy the moratorium in court. The court then appoints a temporary administrator, who clarifies the financial position of the company and the possibilities of rehabilitation. Here, a waiver of a portion of the receivables is also negotiating with the creditors. If no agreement can be reached, the creditor may request the opening of bankruptcy proceedings. The moratorium was imposed by the court on 01.29.2016 and will initially run 5 months, until 29.06.2016.

Kriss was no longer represented in January this year only a small booth at the Shot Show in March at IWA. According to statements by experts Brach has the Vector weapon system that is available as a sub-machine gun, pistol, carbine and kurzläufiges rifle, made any significant sales in Europe and also found the US market even as a lover weapon a niche.

I am not a legal or financial expert by any stretch of the imagination, but to me it seems that for whatever reason Sphinx has fallen into debt, and that court-ordered restructuring could saddle the parent company Kriss with that financial burden, putting the company in danger

Kriss purchased Sphinx System AG in 2010, becoming both the parent company and primary importer for pistols made by the higher-end Swiss manufacturer. This year, Sphinx pistol production began in the United States, as well. Looking at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms manufacturers sales statistics for 2014 – the most recent year for which there is data, we see that Kriss USA sold only 1,021 pistols in 2014 (update: this number excludes the 23,000 pistols exported from the USA in 2014!!!!), that number being comparable to, for example, Boberg Arms Co (919 pistols), or Magnum Research (1,043 pistols), for that year. Whether this is related to their financial problems or not isn’t for me to say, however it does I think firmly place Sphinx in the “boutique” handgun manufacturer category.

Thanks to Gabor for the tip!

UDPATE:

KRISS USA has responded and said …

  1. KRISS Group SA is the parent company of SPHINX Systems AG, KRISS International AG, and KRISS Systems AG, located in Switzerland.
  2. KRISS Group SA is also the parent company of KRISS USA, Inc., which is located in the United States.  KRISS USA, Inc. is financially and operationally independent of its Swiss sister companies.  Therefore, KRISS USA, Inc. is not affected by the current situation in Switzerland.
  3. SPHINX Systems AG, KRISS International AG, and KRISS Systems AG have experienced a progressive market reduction due to export regulation changes and foreign policy restrictions from Switzerland.
  4. A major contributing factor to the financial difficulties of the Swiss companies was the cancellation of a 60 million dollar foreign government contract.  SPHINX Systems AG, KRISS International AG, and KRISS Systems AG were left with an unsustainable business, forcing KRISS Group SA to initiate a Chapter 11 for reorganization.
  5. All KRISS Group SA brands and products, including KRISS and SPHINX firearms, will continue to be manufactured and fully supported by KRISS USA, Inc.  All business activities previously managed by Switzerland will be centralized by KRISS USA, Inc.
  6. Contrary to what was cited in The Firearm Blog article, KRISS USA Inc. manufactured and exported more than 23,000 pistols in 2014, according to the BATF Firearms Manufacturing and Exporting Report, page 18 and 85.  Additionally, KRISS USA, Inc. has experienced a strong and steady growth in the commercial market segment.


Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Nicholas C

    I am not surprised. The Sphinx is a rather expensive gun for what it is. Compared to the CZ75 it isn’t better just more expensive. And if you look at the Kriss Vector the design hasn’t changed. All they did was add M4 stocks and change it to be 9mm.

    • Harrison Jones

      The vector isn’t worth updating much considering they can’t be used in full auto and I couldn’t find any widespread adoption by Law Enforcement or Militaries. It’s a cool gun buy hard to justify when it costs 2k and I can’t have a full auto version that benefits from the design.

      • Nicholas C

        There are some ways to make it better. Like my side mounted right hand mag release. Also making free float handguard a instead of barrel shrouds. They should not have bothered with AR stock adapters as they can’t fold. Or make a new one that maintains factory folding. The weapon system is niche. the only 45acp sub gun that could be considered competition would be the UMP. But HK won’t make it for civilians. And their magazine is a giant brick with no reference of which side is forward.

      • tempest2

        The price has come down considerably since 2015 SHOT Show

      • I got a gen 2 Vector for $1250, its an SBR project 🙂

        • Harrison Jones

          Now you’ve got me wanting one :(. My money is leaving my wallet to fast!

    • Sean

      The workmanship on Sphinx is better than on CZ. But they still don’t shoot any better. Honestly, few things do. But for twice or more…it is silly.

      • Jeff

        My Sphinx does shoot fairly more accurate straight out of the box. My cz was close to 620$ and with CGW parts im at about 950$ and it’s just about as nice as my Sphinx in terms of trigger and accuracy. My rami BD was 640$ my Sphinx was 770$ so I wouldn’t say twice as much or more.

        • iksnilol

          The Sphinxes are very cheap in the US.

          I mean, only a thousand dollars? That’s nothing if you’re getting a genuine Swiss example.

    • JSmath

      Specifically, the 9mm conversion wasn’t something even HINTED AT until just recently. That shit should have happened the year after they came out with the Kriss, but no, the retards decided to cling onto that .45ACP uselessness.

      • Anonymoose

        They should have done it in 10mm and .460 Rowland. The only thing I like 9mm for it’s cheapness. In a subgun with ~30-round mags in either caliber, I’d definitely go with the larger caliber. Maybe train with the 9mm, and swap in the .45 parts with some +P JHPs for actual defensive/duty use.

        • Harrison Jones

          In 10mm I think they’d have a real seller!

          • tempest2

            10mm is coming out

    • James

      I agree with you on this issue Nicholas C hard justify. Buy Sphinx at price point compare firearms market full handguns at lower cost or slight great cost offering more value for your buck than Sphinx offers.

      • Jeremy B

        This reminds me of Glocks vs any other gun. If it doesn’t cost the same as a Glock it’s overpriced. Never mind the fact you have to put real sights on the Glock, then of course there is the match barrel, and trigger upgrade parts that you “have” to buy. But your $800+ dollar glock “only” cost $500, so everything else should too.

        • iksnilol

          Uh, Glocks are overpriced. Even in their “cheap” config.

          • itsmefool

            What’s the “cheap” Glock config? A Blue Label gun? I can’t get one of those! Oh, well…I’ll live!

          • iksnilol

            cheap config = no addons, not even steel sights.

          • itsmefool

            So, in other words, stock, or, as the Glockoholics say, “perfection?”

          • iksnilol

            Yup.

            Or as I call it “overpriced excuse for a mediocre at best pistol”.

          • itsmefool

            Love it when at least one person agrees with me!

          • Lt_Scrounge

            I think that Glocks are overrated. I have one as a bug out bag gun because the mags are cheap and ammo easy to find. When I can afford it, I’ll throw in a Lone Wolf conversion barrel and some G19 mags for some real versatility. My preferred pistol is a Tristar C-100 CZ 75 compact knock off. It works as well as my CZ-75 but weighs less. It shot as well as any of the other much more expensive pistols when I used it for the 4 day defensive handgun course at Front Sight last May. Over 600 rounds without a single mishap. It also had second strike capability which the Glocks did not. It made doing double tap dry runs much easier.

          • SoundMind

            Thanks for offering this recommendation.

          • Lt_Scrounge

            The ergonomics on the CZ-75 and clones is exceptional. The grip design is so good, that if you look at the new enhanced ergonomics Sigs, you can see how they copied the CZ frame design. I’ve had an original Sig P228 and a CZ-75B and opted to keep the CZ and sell the Sig. The CZ just feels better in the hand. The CZs have been around for over 40 years.

          • itsmefool

            Hah! I totally missed the review of the C100 in American Rifleman awhile back; sounds like a nice pistol and it can be carried in Condition 1…sweet!

          • Lt_Scrounge

            I think it may have the upgraded Omega lockwork in it. Not only can it be carried in condition one, if you want to lower the hammer manually you can do so and then apply the safety with the hammer down. Not how I carry mine, but it is definitely an option.

          • itsmefool

            Yep, I read about that option; pretty sweet safety! I better not find one in a gun store near me; I may just have to buy it! Plus it comes with a pair of Mec Gar mags and seems fairly accurate to boot? What’s not to love?

          • Lt_Scrounge

            I got mine from a pawn shop used. It had some wood grain grips on it that really caught my eye. They were plastic, but looked good and the price was right. Locally in north east Texas, Academy Sports was selling them for the ridiculously low price of $329 with 2 15 round magazines and a hard plastic case. Magazines are available from J&G in Prescott, Arizona for $24.99. When I stopped in there while on vacation for some hard to find shotgun shells, they have both my old Arizona address and my current Texas address on file.

            Century Arms was also importing them under the Canik 55 moniker as a Stingray C. I’d like to get one of those eventually because they have light rails.

          • Lt_Scrounge

            A cheap Glock is called a police trade in. They tend to come with the tritium night sights installed, and mine included three magazines.

    • I own a CZ P09, my buddy owns the Sphinx SDP. I can say unequivocally that the Sphinx is the much nicer pistol and well worth the money.

      The Sphinx has a much nicer SA trigger, perfect ergonomics due to the rubber backstraps, and a smoother recoil due to the integral shock buffer built into the frame. He fires nothing but 9mm Major out of it (124gr @ 1360fps) and it’s still very smooth to shoot. As far as accuracy goes, I’ve seen him tagging 4″ plates at 50 yards off hand.

      To get my P09 close to that level of trigger alone, I’m looking at $326 in parts and gunsmithing from Cajun Gunworks, and the Sphinx will still likely be smoother and more accurate.

      When you factor in the custom parts involved to bring a CZ to that level, it’s pretty much identical to the cost of Sphinx (about $850-$900.) Given that SIG’s sell at a comparable price, I think the SDP is worth every penny.

      • Nicholas C

        A P09 is not a fair comparison. You should look into the competition CZ75 Shadows. Those are turned into race guns and will out shoot a Sphinx any day.

        • The CZ P07/P09 are generally considered to be the direct comparison pistol to the SDP. They are very similar in design and purpose – modern, accurate, ergonomic DA/SA combat pistols. They look very similar, and most reviews of the Sphinx pit them directly against the P07/P09 series; The Sphinx SDP Compact is nearly identical dimensionally to the CZ P07.

          The competition Shadows are $1300+ pistols, and are designed as competition race guns. The Sphinx is an $850 high end combat pistol. It is frankly a silly comparison.

      • PatsFan

        Well stated. I concur from a point of similar experience.

    • iksnilol

      It’s basically a smoothed out CZ75. You can get a CZ75, pay a gunsmith to polish it and still have a bunch of money left.

    • mazkact

      Initially I was intrigued by the Sphinx but when I found out it had an aluminum frame I got over it. Give me a CZ75 or a good clone thereof for a third of the price.

  • TangledThorns

    I hope KRISS is not in trouble as I just started the NFA work on a factory SBR Vector 9mm.

    • JSmath

      You would be better served by calling and emailing them instead of commenting here.

  • David

    I got a Kriss early on for testing. Couldn’t get through a single mag without jamming

    • SP mclaughlin

      I’ve heard the first generation of Kriss vectors were pretty shoddy.

    • Kivaari

      It fills a spot in a gun safe like having a nice hammer hanging above your workbench. Except the hammer is useful.

  • Vhyrus

    A company that makes 6 pound, 2000 dollar pistols the size of a textbook is in financial trouble? I am well and truly shocked!

    • Kivaari

      The chiefs gambling winnings are in the back of Rick’s Saloon.

    • Shocked_and_Amazed✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      This is your shocked face
      😨

  • Vitsaus

    Overpriced boutique novelty guns are not a long term business model. A company can only get so far on Call of Duty appearances.

    • Harrison Jones

      Call of duty should license they guns like they did with with Black Ops Jeep. It’d make them money and increase sales for the gun companies. Gamers love guns and collectables. Plus a lot are now Tech guys with decent disposable incomes.

      • John

        Gun manufacturers have started charging appearance license fees.

        The response, because they’re video games, has been to change the likeness and names. “Bushmaster” becomes “Nato16” or “M5AB Pulse Rifle” or just “rifle”. What do they expect, really?

        Kriss could try making scaled down 9mm and .22 long rifle versions and selling those for half the price. That would keep them around.

        • Harrison Jones

          That’s interesting to hear. The gun manufactures would be better off to not charge at all or trade the use of the name for a COD branded gun/package they could sell.

          I agree. They could go to the same company ass HK, Berretta, Walther, and ATI and have a marketable hot product for sub $500. They already have a 9mm version that’s supposed to be out now or soon. I don’t see that being a major issue for most people though. The price for a novelty is the killer. The 22 version would change that.

        • MemorableC

          They are building 22 ar’s with warsport right now. and the current gen vector is available in 9mm.

          They are also very active in the airsoft community with the Krytac brand.

          • Harrison Jones

            Their 22 ARs look cool but a 22 Kriss would really set them apart.

    • Lt_Scrounge

      They should’ve made a killing from the “Divergent” series of movies. There are a lot of Vectors and Chiappa Rinos in the movies. Of course, most of the people who watch those movies don’t tend to be gun enthusiasts. I like action flicks no matter who the hero is.

  • Simon

    Not surprised, I’m honestly not impressed by the Vector at all and in my opinion
    maybe the most overrated firearm on the market at the moment. Seems like the market agrees considering the sales figures.

    • Bacon Chaser

      The problem is FOPA86. The Vector was designed as a submachine gun, and is engineered accordingly.

      Unfortunately, that engineering brings nothing to the civilian market in a 16″ semiautomatic carbine.

      As a SBR, its better. But still doesn’t take advantage of the recoil system.

  • Red McCloud

    And water is wet.

  • You can only make hyper expensive canoe paddles for so long before you go under.

    • uisconfruzed

      The canoe quickly starts to list.

    • kyle893

      German companies and Swiss also are facing a lot of issues because of migrants and their promise to give every refugee welfare services. Germany and Switzerland along with the Nordic Socialists governments have very close ties the corporations in these countries. In some cases, maybe most, the companies are like feudal lords with the government ruling over them. Anyways, it’s a sign these dukbasses are going bankrupt just as planned. Why Europe still doesn’t see they are being hollowed out is beyond me. It’s their own fault though, corrupt business practices and oppressive civil rights leads Europe down this hole once generation it seems.

      • Matt

        migrants issue has nothing to do here.

        If your company invest and set up tools for a 60 million contract and said contract is canceled, you will bankrupt.
        Simple.

  • Harrison Jones

    While I can see why they may be in financial hardship I hope things get better. If I’m not mistaken the sphinx line didn’t come out till 2014 in the US. So maybe that accounts for the low sales. Hopefully whatever happens the Kriss will continue to be manufactured by someone. I have always wondered if they can survive on civilian sales alone.

  • Harrison Jones

    If the hughes amendment were repealed then sales would go way up!

    • JSmath

      After they made it in 9mm, maybe.

  • Stephen Hubert

    Granted, this is my personal opinion here… but the one time I shot a Kriss SMG, I absolutely hated the ergonomics. WAAAAY too easy to hit the bolt lock while firing.

    They really should have diversified a bit more with the company. I mean the gun is just goofy looking, but the technology has (had?) some promise. I was actually pretty excited to see what they’d do with the Kard idea given the recoil/locking system would have been fantastic for keeping the muzzle down – oh well… having a great idea and running a company are two very different skill sets.

    • Kivaari

      Does the bolt system actually reduce climb? I got a couple of reports saying it is a joke.

  • The4thMusketeer

    How can this be true? According to MAC on YouTube the Sphinx is the best pistol ever. Although their is a remote possibility they paid him to say that.

    • Thought he only shilled for IWI?

      • m-cameron

        …….and whoever paid him to hate on the VP9.

    • Rick5555

      I have an problem with a lot of the YT (popular) channels. No, it’s not because I’m jealous. I make a good living as a surgeon. I just wish these channels would be more transparent and disclose the relationship they have with said manufactures. Just because the host purports they’re not in the pocket of a vendor, manufacture, etc. Doesn’t make it true. Just look at Sootch and VSO channels. Those are the two biggest shills out there. VSO posted a video regarding the new iteration of the Canik TP9 (SF model). Curtis said, add $200 to the price of the TP9 SF model, which goes for $325-$375. And you will Not find another pistol that meets the SF model’s quality. Either this guy, doesn’t know much about firearms or he’s simply in the pocket of Century Arms…the importer. I can think of at least a half dozen pistols, that have better quality and in that price range. I take these YT channels for what they are…Entertainment and that’s all. I would never take any of these self proclaimed reviewers advisement about a firearm. Especially, when these supposed reviewers refuse to provide ANY background information on themselves. That would indicate, they’re a bona fide firearms reviewer. Sorry, but shooting a lot and been shooting since you were a kid. Doesn’t constitute being a reviewer. All these reviewers do is offer their opinion and go over the feature of said item. I can peruse a website of the firearm to ascertain the features of a gun. Essentially, these YT channels are nothing but a long “Infomecial.” And nothing more.

      • Lt_Scrounge

        I have a Canik manufactured Tristar C-100 that I got for $259 at a pawn shop that ran like a top at Front Sight last May.

  • The Sphinx pistol is nice… for a $1200 CZ P-01. I’ve fired them… I even liked them.
    But there’s no way I’d ever buy one. Evidently I’m not the only one.
    And Kriss? I had to call Customer Service for a warranty replacement part – and let me tell you… It was the worst experience I’ve ever had. And I’ve had to call Beretta, HK, SIG, Colt, and many others. Kriss was the worst. I’ve refused to deal with them ever since.
    That and I hate the design.

    • joehbro

      I got my Sphinx for south of $800… worth every penny.

      • Yeah, they are on Gunbroker all day for $850-$900, which is well within SIG and 1911 prices.

        I’m not sure why people expect a premium, small production Swiss made metal handgun to be price competitive with a mass produced plastic pistol.

  • TDog

    Darned shame… who’d have thought that an expensive gun with a list of approved ammo that fails every other shot would have such difficulties?

  • Treyh007

    Not surprised, very cool firearms but kinda a Niche product. Very expensive, one of those weapons that people say I want to shoot it but don’t actually buy it. All that said I hope the figure out a way to stay afloat, we don’t need anymore firearms manufactures in Bankruptcy trouble!

  • dafaq

    All they had to do was make a version of the KRISS Vector in 5.56 that takes stanags mags.

    • Dracon1201

      They tried, the mechanism is too big at that point to be viable. They were working on a .50 as well.

    • Kivaari

      They should have figured out the elaborate recoil bolt system doesn’t deliver like the puff piece gun magazine articles claim.

      • Nicholas C

        The Super V system works but really only for full auto. It doesnt do much for semi auto. Reduced recoil? Depends what stock you are using. Use a PDW stock like the Troy MP7A1 and it is the worst setup ever. Use the factory stock and it is pleasant to shoot.

        • Kivaari

          The only person I know with a Kriss has the full automatic model. A local PD wanted to test one, and everyone that shot it said it was crap. I never shot it, just handled it, and it is a club. At the time a SMG with a 13 round magazine in .45 just did not make sense. It still doesn’t. I like SMGs like the Uzi Mini and the MP5A2. If I had a choice between a Kriss and an M1 carbine, I’d take the carbine.
          Today I’d take an M4 Commando (11.5″) over the MP5. I’ve used the MP5 and M16 pattern rifles for decades. Nothing about the Kriss appeals to me.

    • CS

      They Need a 10mm version. Also repealing the big gun control acts could also save the Vector.

      • USMC2090

        Why? So all 15 people who like the 10mm round can buy it?

        • Suppressed

          And then hope to get ammo from the 3 manufacturers that actually load 10mm to its potential capabilities.

          (This is just my understanding anyway. I don’t own any 10mm guns but I’m a fan of them in concept.)

  • Dracon1201

    I mean, there’s a new one for $1000 near me in .45. At that price should I buy it? I have no real experience with these, lol.

    • Russ Elder

      I have shot my sons many times and its a beauty——-I would like one but don’t have that kind of cash

      • BigFED

        Uhm, So HOW many times have you shot your sons? Be careful answering. it may used against you at your trial! ;-0

        • Russ Elder

          lol——–come to think of it I never really shot it—–lol

  • joehbro

    I might have to buy another sphinx before they dry up and are gone forever.

  • Kivaari

    I have never met anyone that owned a Sphinx handgun. I know one man with a Kriss SMG, and is quite disappointed in how it performs. The large US market can only accommodate so many sales of more CZ75 clones, and the market for over-priced poor performing SMGs or semi-auto clones is very small.

    • FarmerB

      I know a few people with them – one in the military giving tactical training. But then, I live in Switzerland 🙂

      • Kivaari

        What do they sell for in Switzerland?

        • FarmerB

          Standard SDP seems to be about $1300 or so. But then, everything is expensive here (even a Gen4 G17 costs about $850)

          • iksnilol

            Screw you guys, a Sphinx in Norway is like 3500 USD.

          • Kivaari

            That is how you get free medical and a months paid vacation.

          • iksnilol

            xD

            Not really, it’s just that nobody really cares about them. Only people who buy them are those who want the best of the best, IE people who don’t know much but will gladly pay to make up for that. That and because the standard of living in Norway is way higher. I mean, my bottom of the ladder job pays 20 bucks an hour.

          • FarmerB

            Which model? I’m quoting the cheapest SDP compact.

          • Kivaari

            Painful prices. I buy G3 Glocks at $450. I don’t like the G4 variants.
            The Glock sights are better than 30 years ago. The front now being screwed on and not help with a friction fit pin. They should come with basic steel sights.

  • HKGuns

    Sounds to me like the same issues HK faces in Germany. Doing business in Europe is becoming increasingly a waste of time.

    We’re not far behind.

  • Ian Mcfarland

    Great load of gossip here my god in less then a few hours the whole story seems to be completely made up of assumed bs. Come guys report on fact not fantasy please.

  • Whoops I didn’t adequately clarify that the 1,021 figure was just for pistols sold on the US market, not those exported.

    Again, I reiterate that these numbers don’t indicate Kriss USA is in financial trouble (and I appreciate Kriss’s clarification), as we’re talking about two different markets. However, the news article got me curious about their volume, so I included that paragraph.

    Still, my fault! I should have made it more clear for you guys.

    • MR

      Any more specific information on where that other 23,000 firearms went? Did some foreign .gov entity adopt this weapon, or is there a super affluent civilian firearms market somewhere I wasn’t aware of? Seems like a large number, considering the reliability problems I’ve heard of.

      • No idea. The doc doesn’t say.

        • aguywhoknows

          About 20.000 guns (mostly SDP Alphas) went to KSA. The big deal that got suspended got no export permit out of Switzerland.
          So they sold the desired guns from the US instead, which makes 20k out of the 23k guns. Then some went into Europe, some into Asia, mostly small contracts or dealerships.
          KSA wanted some Vectors as well, but I don´t know what exactly happend to that contract.
          Also, some of the remaining employees in Switzerland are waiting for two salaries yehaaw… :S

  • SirOliverHumperdink

    Sphinx, a CZ clone made in Giza, Switzerland. It’s been a dumb name since Sile in NY imported them back in the 80’s. Should have went with Burgdorf, Horgen or maybe my favorite- Zug.

    • iksnilol

      Your favorite is “train”?

      • FarmerB

        Love the trains to Zug.

        • iksnilol

          Man, if Zug made Zug brand guns I’d engrave Thomas the tank engine on the side with the text: “CHOO CHOO MOTHERTRUCKER!”

  • Tritro29

    Guess that Emirati contract blew them out of the water…

  • Matt Grizz Gregg

    They made an innovative pistol caliber smg about 30 years too late. Most of the world’s militaries and swat teams seem to have moved on to carbines.

  • guest

    TBH that sub machinegun did bring something new to the table, but it was far from enough and the price was a total ripoff. Plus the calibre is outdated, especially in light of “PDW” calibres that almost alsways feature a Level IIIA/III penetration capability.

    This just goes to show that a lot of the firearms industry is pretty much stuck, mainly because they all (or rather 99,99999% of them) are still kicking a dead horse: there are no real significant advances, the assault rifle market pretty much reached its technical potential when 5.56 and 5.45 weapons became readily available, so besides that the only improvements have been slightly better ergonomics, precision, modularity etc.
    Let’s face it: ever since the pistols became semiauto and mag fed, and ever since the assault rifle became commonly accepted fact there have been no real, significant, ground-breaking advances in small arms as far as overall performance is concerned.

    What would be a real game-changer now would be either penetration of level IV by assault rifle sized weapons with no penalties to weapon or shooter, or some very dramatic (half weight or more) weight decrease of ammo/weapon, some extreme range/precision/ease of long range shots improvement (think of Tracking Point taken up a few notches in performance, and down a few notches in price), etc.

  • David Harmon

    They charge over $2k for a pistol….

    • Nicholas C

      Sphinx were originally $3k I think

      • David Harmon

        Simply insane. You can get a top of the line custom 1911 with your name engraved on it for that much.

  • Jason

    How many times has Colt been bankrupt?

    • David Harmon

      Colt, before the last one, was a massive corporate entity. Kriss isn’t.

  • djdiym

    Hopefully I can still get full auto version when my sot goes active in July.

  • Military Arms Channel

    I’ve heard these rumors for a while and I suspect they’re not rumors anymore. Crud. I love the SDP and carry it. Perhaps I will be forced to move over to CZ pistols so I have parts and other support for my carry gun.

    • You could probably just hit up Kriss and purchase a complete set of any of the wearable parts (extractor, firing pin, springs, etc.) Or just snag a back up Sphinx vs the CZ.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    I have a brick with a trigger it. Anyone interested? I am looking for start up funding..

  • RantGirlRants

    I kinda think that the costs in moving some of the Sphinx pistol production to the US didn’t help their situation.

  • tazman66gt

    So, you wrote yet another clickbait without actually checking with the company to see what was going on. Seems as though it might be a good idea to check things out before you write an untrue or half researched article claiming things that could be easily checked if only for a bit of research. But, I guess you have to be the first out with the info, true or not.

  • WRBuchanan

    This is just another Imposition of Ridiculous Regulations by the Obana Group working thru foreign governments to make American Companies suffer and attempt to bring us down to the rest of the worlds miserable condition.

    We need a leader who has the gumption to stand up for what is in the best interest of America and not some idealistic vision of one world government and idiotic an unattainable Utopian Nirvana.

    Do you want a President that Barks? or one that Bites? !!!
    Oh and better forget about the Cruz/Kasich foot draggers who are just trying to hand the election to Hildegard.
    Better think about it long and hard because Hildegard is going to make it even worse!
    Go Trump!

  • Rey Leron

    Single minded business thinking always fail. Where they get their math is beyond me. They would rather see their company go under rather than lower their prices to attract buyers. Isn’t that why you go into this kind of business, to have buyers buy your product? If they can’t afford it or won’t afford the products you sell, what do you think you should do as a business?

  • gdnctr

    Why do all the firearm links go to Brownell’s and unrelated topic hardware?
    What idiot selected the links?
    CRAP!

  • A Fascist Corgi

    I don’t care what anyone says. I really want a 9mm KRISS Vector in alpine camo.