IV8888 Runs the Fostech Origin 12… Hard

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What happens when you combine a 30 shell drum, a Fostech Origin 12, and a SilencerCo shotgun suppressor? Epic near-full auto patterning. Eric, or IraqVeteran8888 as he is known on the internet, has the Fostech Origin-12 shotgun in full short-barrel shotgun configuration in-hand for testing. While the previous video showed a similar configuration, Eric attempts to and fails to outrun the system.

The Origin-12, which announced a couple years ago, has just started to trickle out to the market in reasonable significant numbers. Its similar to a Saiga with some improvements including safety/selector, forward charging handle, quick-change barrels (long and short), and an adjustable gas system.

I’ve had a chance to play with them in detail at various media shoots and they are as much fun and as fast as Eric shows. The long-stroke piston action is remarkably quick and tolerant of of various ammunition types.

Retail for the Origin-12 is starts at $2,600 for nitrided components. Shooters can opt to upgrade the components to nickel-coated as well.

With the video focusing on speed, we’d be remiss to not mention Fostech’s upcoming Echo trigger, which fires on both pull and release. Per representatives, shipments for the Echo trigger will start this summer with production running in earnest shortly thereafter.



Nathan S.

One of TFB’s resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.

Nathan can be reached at Nathan.S@TheFirearmBlog.com

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • thedonn007

    Echo is a good name the dual action trigger system.

  • Matt Shermer

    Man it is beautifully over-engineered, wonder how much it weighs with the Salvo and the loaded 30 rounder though…

    • Budogunner

      The Salvo is surprisingly light. The 30 round drum,on the other hand…

      • randomswede

        The drum itself is surprisingly light. The 30 12G shells on the other hand…

        (Disclaimer: I have no data on the actual weight, but it looked silly light in IV8888s video and I figured this post could get a giggle out of someone)

        • Budogunner

          12G shells are surprisingly light. The lead shot they contain, on the other hand…

          • randomswede

            Lead is actually sup… Gravitons, are we feeling it? No? Ah well…

          • Budogunner

            Indeed, we need high capacity semi-automatic shotguns with fewer Higgs Bosons.

          • randomswede

            Perhaps we need more; of an opposite “polarity”! ; )

  • Budogunner

    A trigger that fires on both pull and release? What if you fire an odd number of shots and find you must stand down and make the gun safe?

    • Jambo

      You just flip it to safe.

    • Bill

      I’m dubious about anything like a release trigger, particularly under the stress of social work. It’s also too easy for people’s finger to come off the trigger in recoil; so for them EVERY trigger press could result in two rounds fired which may not always be justifiable.

      • randomswede

        I shouldn’t speak for Fostech or Franklin Armory but I’ve assumed the intended use is as a range toy.

        Liability wise I assume it would be similar to using a full auto weapon for self defence. I don’t know if there are any such cases to go by.

        That said, personally I’ve started wondering if I wouldn’t prefer a Fostech trigger over full auto in a carbine intended for combat as it would let me put out a large amount of rounds with, I’ll argue, more control.
        In a support type weapon it would not be desirable (unless it’s all you can get, then it’s better than semi).

  • claymore

    Note the suppressor turning on it’s axis while he is shooting that first string. Not good not good at all.

    • thedonn007

      I had noticed that as well. It looks to have stayed in place after he tightened it down though.

    • Budogunner

      Needs a bit of plumber’s tape on the threads.

  • Bill

    Nice trigger bash.

    Is that a frozen turkey hanging on the right target array?

    I wonder if it will cycle less-lethal rounds – load up with rubber buckshot and you could take on a whole herd of hippies.

  • iksnilol

    Heard something about British spec ops using it.

    Am stuck thinking “who bothers with a 30 shell drum for a shotgun?”. That’s like 1.5 kg in only ammo.

    • thedonn007

      Yes, and it is way to big as well. Must be for the 3 gunners.

      • randomswede

        3 Gunners and as a range toy… oh and it’s now the only shotgun with a 30 round magazine?

  • Ed Ward

    Of course I want one but the ca$h is an issue (YMMV). Until then, I have a Vepr 12 that runs quite reliably fast and well.

  • Xanderbach

    Are rocket-assisted explosive rounds NFA? I feel a bolter vibe from this… And a bolter is 12ga (.729″). All you need is some giant gentically engineered brute to carry it. Maybe the guy that plays the Mountain on GoT?

    • crackedlenses

      If COD were ever to get a bolter-style weapon, this is probably what it would look like….

    • randomswede

      So hybrid-gyrojet Frag 12 rounds?
      Hybrid as in fired as a “bullet” but rocket assisted like a gyrojet in flight, perhaps they could drop the fins on the Frag 12 then.

      So now I need 4 of these; one to become Vera, two for a Combi-Bolter and one to use in public.

  • USMC03Vet

    I wish I could afford this bolt gun. Certainly on list when I win the lottery.

  • VF 1777

    Geeesis, that’s a beast