Poacher’s AK in Africa, still working

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These pictures are starting to make the rounds on the internet, but it seems to have originated from a certain Instagram profile by the name of Jon Wayne Taylor, who in turn received the pictures from one of the managers at Underground Tactical. Why or how the CEO of that company just so happened to be in Africa, and around confiscated weapons from poachers, is a mystery. But we are left with these images, of what is reported to be a fully function Chinese Type 56, patterned off the milled receiver Soviet AK47. The top receiver cover is gone, the trigger guard is non existent, the pistol grip and stock are improvised, the entire metal surface of the firearm is pitted with rust. There rear sight is being held together by wire around the trunnion, the handguards are held together by some sort of string or wire. And yet the thing miraculously still fires!

The CEO of Underground Tactical sent me this pic of an AK47 he pulled off some poachers in Africa. It still worked. Impressive.

Whether you subscribe to the whole AR versus AK debate or not, I would challenge a devout AR devotee, to come up with an AR as old, and in as bad condition as this Type 56, and have it still in working condition. It is certainly a testament to the design, that these rifles are still in working condition.627cad22-57fa-472c-88bb-2f7ecbf53505



Miles V

Former Infantry Marine, and currently studying at Indiana University. I’ve written for Small Arms Review and Small Arms Defense Journal, and have had a teenie tiny photo that appeared in GQ. Specifically, I’m very interested in small arms history, development, and Military/LE usage within the Middle East, and Central Asia.

If you want to reach out, let me know about an error I’ve made, something I can add to the post, or just talk guns and how much Grunts love naps, hit me up at miles@tfb.tv


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  • DanGoodShot

    I didn’t see a vid of this thing working. I’m supposed to believe the interweb?

    • Joshua

      Yeah, that’s how the internet works.

    • iksnilol

      Yeah, we did get pics so we are supposed to believe.

      • Joshua

        And I’m a french model 🙂

        • iksnilol

          Pics please?

          • Joshua

            Bonjour

  • Joey Jo-Jo Shabadoo

    Fake.

  • Martin törefeldt

    When i see this, i just want to cry.

  • 2hotel9

    If it really still fires I am impressed.

  • BattleshipGrey

    Good thing it’s not in the ATF’s jurisdiction, that wire around the grip is too close to the trigger….wait, it’s probably a machine gun anyway. Never mind.

  • Lee Attiny

    Wonder what the trigger pull on that Ak is? 2.5-3 lbs?

  • Neal R

    I’m thinking this one is artificially aged. What gets me in the safety selector. I have a hard time believe its would oxidized that uniformly, and without failing or breaking in half during normal use. Pretty neat though, and I have no doubt it would fire.

    • Tierlieb

      The uniform pithing is surprising. But at least the trigger guard is broken off, which is to be expected, as thin parts would be the first victims. The sight looks somewhat improvised/repaired, too.

      The state of the safety selector is suspicious, not doubt. Compare the gas tube lever, which is (properly) rusted to the trunnion block.

      OTOH, the pithing on the receiver seems deeper where the detent of safety would scratch (and therefore remove the protective rust cover). That, at least is a cool detail and might speak of it actually being used (as opposed to the gas tube lever). Then again, using the safety without the cover on is a recipe for disaster (without cover, the safety lever has four positions: semi – auto – safe – disassembled) and from the way the carrier looks, there is no cover to be found anywhere.

      So using Ockham’s razor to decide between someone finding a curious relic and the CEO posting a picture that strengthens the trust in the weapon system they sell… seems simple to me.

      • Jim B

        Nailed it!

      • Sianmink

        That’s not pitting, it looks more like hammer marks. Very strange.

        • Tierlieb

          Ah, that may be something of a translation mistake on my part. I just learned that “pitting” describes localized corrosion (“Lochfraß” sounds so much better). I was using it to describe corrosion on the whole surface (and misspelled it, too).

          I would have thought that, too: Like someone either using a ball-peen hammer or someone just not very skilled, maybe even using a cheap hammer with a flat face (striking with the edges and not the hammer face).

          But there is an overall corrosion pattern with pitting like this. I have seen this on the bands of wooden cart wheels as well as on the side of rails for trains for example. Which would fit with the scenario of repeated rusting and drying.

          Still: Seems less probable to me than other explanations.

  • Major Tom

    Needs more baling wire.

    • 2hotel9

      And cow bell!!!!!

  • Giolli Joker

    Looks like put in a forge, hammered thoroughly and then left in a river for some weeks.

  • jeffrey melton

    I saw a S&W 357 for sale that looked this bad on one side the other was pristine. It was a truck gun that sat is water on one side for six months. Worked fine after being oiled.

  • SP mclaughlin

    Still in better condition than the dirty AK from Far Cry 2.

    • Bob

      Man, I hated that part of the game. For some reason in my game I never the exploding animation, my character would just make a sudden jerking/throwing motion and the gun would be gone. I didn’t understand what could possibly happen to my AK the first few times and then spent a lot of time looking for the stupid thing.

  • Bill

    Fake or not, what’s really disgusting is that poachers DO use these to slaughter rhino, elephant and whatever else wanders into their sights.

    • Anton Gray Basson

      They often have one or two big bore rifles with them with the AK being used as protection from game rangers and rival poachers.

  • bruce Cambell

    with that much rust, its hard to believe that the rails that support the carrier are still smooth enough to allow it to travel back and forth. Yet, it still has the cleaning rod. -possibly because they never used it so its rusted in place.

  • Dr. Buchenrad

    Since you mention the AR vs AK thing, it should be said that anodized aluminum is much more chemically stable than steel (I assume the ak had blued steel; correct me if I’m wrong). That being said I probably would have more faith in the wood furniture on an AK than the polymer stuff on most ars.

    • BryanS

      Would be fine as long as you dont leave it out in US winters, as we use chemicals on ice that eat aluminum like no-one’s business. Once the anodization layer is gone, it deteriorates pretty well.

  • Rock or Something

    It may still work, but I sure as heck wouldn’t rely on it for my life or livelihood.

  • ug

    This whole battleworn finish craze has finally gone to far.

    • James

      Yeah Underground tactical has some ARs that have the battle worn look. I visited their shop a few weeks ago, they do have some nice ARs though.

  • CommonSense23

    The question is how well does it work. Firing a round or two then having a malfunction isn’t really impressive.

    • Joshua

      The barrel also looks drooped.

    • phuzz

      If it doesn’t explode in your face as soon as you look at it I’d consider that a win.

  • Pete Sheppard

    Those look like ball-peen hammer strikes. If one gets bored enough, I suppose…

    • Ken

      Yeah, that’s what I’m guessing. The barrel and rear sight block don’t have the same cratering that the receiver and bolt carrier does. Maybe they used a hammer to knock down the rust?

      • Pete Sheppard

        That, or someone wanted some really coarse stippling.

      • M40

        Actually, the odd coloring doesn’t indicate normal corrosion over time. This looks like it went through a fire at some point (thus the hastily replaced furniture). A fire would anneal (soften) the steel and leave it covered in scale. Someone obviously took a ball peen hammer and knocked off all the scale (leaving a bluish-black forge patina). Gotta wonder what patsy they found to fire it the first time to remove the scale inside the barrel. Lucky the barrel didn’t shred itself on that first shot, but after that, it should be okay. The springs would have been annealed as well, and were probably replaced. Either that, or it’s now a single shot rifle.

    • ozzallos .

      I’d almost suspect that the receiver has been made or re-made from the ground up, because it *looks* like it was hammered out into shape like any number of techniques that go into iron working. I literally can’t think of another reason for them to be there except for style. Nothing’s going to get banged around like that on accident.

      • nadnerbus

        I’ve heard of some really crazy things done in Africa (right here from Yman) due to superstition in regards to firearms. Possible this is one of those things.

  • Joshua

    Challenge accepted.

    • Harrison Jones

      Since the AR has aluminum receivers I think they’d well outlast the AK in a test of years. The parts on an AK that would be likely to fail from rust are the same on the AR.

      I think a rusted out AR would be much easier to rebuild that a rusted out AK.

      • DiverEngrSL17K

        You seem to be forgetting that aluminum is subject to its own brand of oxidation and corrosion in the long run as well, especially in hot and humid conditions and when subjected to salt exposure, including the salts in human sweat. Also, aluminum has a regrettable tendency to fuse itself to other metals when subject to the electrolysis of corrosion, hence the all too common occurrences one sees in many industries of aluminum components having corrosion-welded themselves over time to stainless steel, Monel, bronze, other aluminum alloys, etc. and become completely seized in place. While the use of high marine grade aluminum alloys with additional anodization certainly goes a long way towards alleviating this issue, it still does not entirely eliminate the problem. One other problem aluminum of any grade is susceptible to is that of galling when even small imperfections occur in closely-fitted moving parts. Steel generally tends to be much more tolerant of such conditions.

    • Joshua S.

      Going by the fact the AK shown has a milled receiver it’s probably about 10 years older than the M-16 shown, but that’s still really impressive.

    • Old Vet

      Are those friendly’s??

  • Mike Lashewitz

    Without a video I will not believe it. With that much pitting the rifling had to be nearly as bad. I cannot imagine a round making it through that unmolested.

  • Joshua

    Most important, is why is the CEO of a gun company, in Africa killing poachers?

    • Jason

      I didn’t kill the poachers. However, I’m sure the Game Scouts did when we turned them over to them. This was in Mozambique. The poachers where trapping and killing elephants.

      • 2hotel9

        So, did you get hands on it? Or just pics? Come on, spill. Over the years I have seen some REALLY rough condition firearms that did function, so I, at least, am interested.

        • Bill

          The Tribal Regions in Pakistan are home to some funky guns, but the altitude and climate probably isn’t as rough on them. Then there are some rebel groups in Malaysia and Papua New Guinea who have guns every bit as bad as this; that is until they kill soldiers and cops and take their marginally better ones.

          • 2hotel9

            Not in that league, I do have two SMLEs that were damned rough when I got them, one “sporterized” and other in full furniture. Cleaned them up and benched fired them. Both fired, the chopped one was actually accurate and the action cleaned up nicely, the other one was real iffy. Stripped out what springs and small parts were salvageable and stuck it back together as a wall hanger.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Right.

  • someguy

    throw in a little fire clean and it should be fine

    • Twilight sparkle

      I like to keep crisco out of my guns…

  • Jay

    If you google somali pirate guns, you find some really beatup and rusted AKs.

  • Raoul O’Shaugnessy

    Century Arms condition rating: good to very good

    • Core

      Rofl

  • AHill

    That’ll buff right out!

  • Gorilla Biscuits

    Your gun is not battle worn, until it’s African poacher battle worn. Break out your shovel handles, bailing wire, and small sledge hammer. Because it’s about to go DOWN!!!!

  • GhostTrain81

    Sorry for being Mr. Obvious here, but it’s hard to replicate the same thing on the AR’s upper & lowers…. you see Aluminum cannot rust :), as the red/brown stuff is a product of the unique reaction between oxygen and iron (Iron Oxide).

    It CAN corrode though, all metals do, but at least on initial contact with water you will get Aluminum Oxide which helps seal the Aluminum surface against further corrosion at least in the short term.

    This obviously does not apply to steel components, most notably the barrel, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say that a US made steel barrel circa 1950’s would probably be comparable in quality than the Type 56 in question.

    • Renato H. M. de Oliveira

      Basically correct.

      Rust forms scales, which are not nechanically resistant, peel off/fall easily, not to mention being rather porous, therefore exposing more iron (or steel, which is an iron alloy) to chemical attack. Rust doesn’t form a protective layer.

      But steel is cheap and easy to work with, what makes it the material of choice for cheap weapons. Not to mention that some of its mechanical properties mean that we still have no substitute for it in some parts, like barrels and springs.

      Aluminum oxide is much more mechanically resistant, and the fact that aluminum is much more chemically reactive is nullified by the protective oxide layer.

      There are some new aluminum alloys which are extra resistant, offering more strength to weight ratios than titanium, but they aren’t commercially available yet.

      • Nigel Tolley

        I suspect the steel barrel, springs, etc and aluminum other bits would’ve long since parted company, with whatever joint failing due to bimetallic corrosion. Ali and iron aren’t great like that.

        • Renato H. M. de Oliveira

          Nothing is perfect.

          Steel is the metal of choice for firearms – basically you can make a whole firearm from steel alone. But its density and “rust-ability” are problematic.

          I don’t know of any other metal with such a versatility. Aluminum has a very low density, magnesium even more so, but there are only so many parts you can make with them. Then you get the problem you mentioned, the different metals contacting and reacting. Even titanium isn’t the solution, as some parts cannot be made of it, not to mention the far higher cost.

          There are no simple solutions. One of the best so far has been the Glock way: parts entirely poly or poly with some metal reinforcements.

  • Jwedel1231

    You say that this gun functioning is a testament to it’s design? How about the other 200 AKs that were purchased at the same time and also neglected but malfunctioned and were left behind? Show me the % of guns that run in that condition before you start saying it’s a “testament to the design”.

    • M40

      EXACTLY! One may as well claim that the 1950’s era clunkers that are still running in the streets of Cuba are a “testament” to their design. They are in fact a testament to the sheer willpower and ingenuity of the owners (who had nothing else available and somehow kept them running).

      • Or like the African guerillas who used to convert milsurp .30-06 to something that could kind of chamber and usually fired (but didn’t cycle) in an FAL, using nothing but oliers to pull the bullet, a broad leaf (to hold the powder while shortening the case the case with a hacksaw or machete, forcing the case into the chamber until it is kind of necked, and then hammering the bullet in with a stick.

        Not a testimony to the validity of the .30-06, 7.62x51mm, or the FAL – a testimony to the desperation and determination if some guys who thought a full magazine of factory 7.62NATO was a pipedream.

  • lbrty2112

    Can’t possibly be working. It doesn’t have any duct tape on it.

  • DwnRange

    what; they never heard of duct tape in Mozambique?

  • VJ

    Hey – thats plus one for Milled vs Stamped!

  • 2hotel9

    Sorry, email loads slow and I did not see you HAD spilled. Good job!

  • RealitiCzech

    What is ‘war tourism’?

    • Cmex

      Going to war zones for the whole point of having an adventure. It’s like the shooty equivalent of spring breakers who go to Africa to build schools.

      • RealitiCzech

        So… ‘The Most Dangerous Game’ but in real life?

        • Cmex

          Sorta like that.

  • I’m sure it fires. I’m not so sure that it actually cycles.

  • AD

    Thanks for sharing the story!

  • MadKaw69

    Looks to me like someone beat Cabot to making a meteor rifle! Just needs some more finishing.

  • john huscio

    Would be neat to see how the rifle got to Africa and who initially used it.

    • No mystery how it got there. In a freighter (probably Chinese flagged), with a few thousand other ones just like it, “generously contributed” by the “benevolent Chinese workers” to the “valiant forces of anti-imperialism.”. Like all the other Type 56 rifles in Africa.

  • Blake

    Dude I’d love to see that video! Post it! and reply so I can find it haha.

  • Mi

    That would be considered a rat rifle by the hot rod world. The whole mystique of the unbreakable AK is nothing but a bunch of bull however. Some of the milled receiver, chrome barreled versions obviously fall into that category but the mass majority of the rest have significantly high fail rates.

    • Cmex

      Pictured: An AK that’s still working despite being so trashed any other gun would have likely croaked long ago.

      • Mi

        Picured: A pos that wouldn’t even make a good boat anchor. Where is the footage of it still working? You don’t know if it is working and you cannot say that if it is working another firearm isn’t going to work in the same condition.

        • Cmex

          If it weren’t working, it would’nt’ve been brought along!

  • Laserbait

    Looks like every other AK. Maybe George Yanoush would like to trade his custom Hi-point for this fine specimen.

  • Mr Silly

    Thanks for saving elephants and other wild animals from Chinese markets.

  • Mr Silly

    Must be used to kill animal at short distance. The demand end of the poaching market must be continually shamed and exposed- it is the one thing the CCP will respond to- loss of face to the Gweilo (whitey).

    • M40

      Whitey, hmm? The poaching market is pretty much cornered by Japan, and 95% of it goes straight to Asia. Whether you’re talking rhinos, elephants, whales, (or pretty much any protected species)… they’ve got all kinds of mystical, magical, or superstitious uses for them.

      • You miss the point. The loss of face to roundeyes factor is due to them getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar in situations where it isn’t deniable that the PRC government knows and is complicit.

        Because they end up looking bad in front of the rest of the world.

      • Mr Silly

        No- it’s China. China is the vector for all endangered animal products. Vetnam killed its last rhino to sell to China for rhino horn (aphrodisiac, painkiller, headache treatment, panacea). Japan buys ivory illegally for ivory carving- but its quantities are tiny compare to China.

        • M40

          Japan probably uses lower numbers (they have a vastly lower population than China). But we’re talking about a country with an active whaling fleet, and whose people eat and use medicinally… all manner of endangered plant and animal species. It seems the more endangered the species, the more deeply rooted it is in crazy Japanese “culture”. But yeah… China’s black markets are likewise full of all kinds of crazy bits and pieces of animal innards.

  • Jacob Peters

    I bow to the AK

  • saibubbasez

    Yeah, well, show me video of that salt water rotten weapon firing, and I’ll be amazed. Otherwise, I’m simply not believing it.

  • Scott

    I own both an AK and several AR`s. This is proof positive why the AK is a superior firearm, they are by all accounts indestructible. The AR is a fine firearm, but it has to be kept very clean and well maintained, whereas an AK can be thrown into a pile of crap and still function flawlessly. Hell, I`ve seen videos where the barrel will bend after running to many rounds through on full auto and the guy would just stick the barrel under something heavy and bend it back straight and keep on shooting. No way you ever do that with an AR. Not to mention the round in an AK is larger and has more hitting power. I like both guns, but the AK is built tough as nails.

    • M40

      There’s something to be said for a rugged design, but to me, an inaccurate rifle is a useless rifle. Most of the world’s AK’s are close-range “spray & pray” weapons. Not too many that have any real use past a couple hundred yards. There are (some) Russian made AK’s that shoot okay, but still not where I want my rifles as far as accuracy goes.

      I guess I’ll simply have to refrain from throwing my arms into piles of crap, and I’ll have something that I trust to hit at 500 yards and beyond.

      • Scott

        Ar`s aren`t good to 500 yards, quit kidding yourself and everybody else. I`ve got 5 of them and I know what I`m talking about. You on the other hand, not so much.

        • M40

          Well then smart guy… I guess every US Marine that ever qualified at the range is just lying when they claim to have shot 200, 300, and 500 yard targets from prone, sitting, kneeling, and standing positions. Yes… EVERY Marine does it.

          Maybe YOU can’t shoot an AR too well… but most people can with a little practice.

          PS – That’s with open iron sights too!

          • Scott

            Sure it is Skippy, sure it is. Go tell your lies to somebody who will fall for them, not gonna happen here!

  • Johnny Nightrider

    That AK is a danger waiting to happen.I like Colt M4’s and their accessories.If you know how to clean the M4 it will last for a lifetime.When the dollar collapses it’s going to turn ugly with alot of bad people not just trying to survive but predators killing,raping,and hurting people because they are psychopaths.I don’t want to kill or wound people but if they try to hurt my family or me.I have no hesitation in stopping that ASAP.You think Katrina in New Orleans was bad.Put the whole country in peril with noone coming to help you and Martial Law and some police people trying to disarm you just because with no good reason.It’s going to be Civil War America 2017.And our Army National Guardsman going to shoot people who are trying to survive?Yes if they are raping,killing,and acting like psychopaths.Though if there CO orders them to kill people without good reason are they going to follow that order?

    • M40

      Wow…. ramble off topic much?

  • jbrowntx2

    Also known as the “Kalish” ?
    Next thing you know the writer will tell us that this gun makes a very distinctive sound when fired.

  • Leigh Rich

    As a gun owner in the USA I would never have to use a POS gun like the one in this review Thus my AR would be no issue . Silly comparisons.

  • Earl

    All sorts of junk firearms fire. Sometimes they are able to fire a second round before jamming up. About like other relic condition firearms.

  • Patrick Selfridge

    I would not want to fire that thing.

  • 1inidaho

    What it looks like is that somebody dug that thing up in an old battlefield and cleaned it up as best they could. Amazing that it works.

  • Glock Guy

    Pleas post video and thank you for stopping them.

  • Bill

    Not really all that impressive. No AR or M-16 would survive such abuse, but then again no actual operator would let themselves be caught dead carrying, never mind shooting, such a glaring example of neglected gear (I know I wouldn’t). All I’m seeing here is a caveman’s fancy club. Just sayin’…

    • Nigel Tolley

      Why do you think people are trained across weapon systems? Your AR/80/whatever takes a hit to the barrel or working parts, you’re 300 miles from (other) resupply on foot. You’d tab back for a new AR with no gun? (I hesitate to call the above a rifle anymore)
      They’d use it rather than end up dead, or worse, fail the mission and let down the team.

      • Bill

        Either I’m missing your point or you’re missing mine-not sure which.

  • Core

    They should open up safari poacher hunts.. Wait, then pita would have to start giving a crap for Humans.. Oo

  • nKhosi

    Having lived next door in Swaziland- Thank you very much!! It takes at least 4 or 5 full mags of AK to kill an adult Jumbo. And then the meat is not fit to eat.

  • CountryBoy

    I think the main difference is that the AR is recognized as a precision tool and thus is likely to be taken care of. The AK, not so much, and seems more often found in the hands of miscreants around the globe.

    This fellow must not have been making too much money as a poacher, however.

    • Nigel Tolley

      That’s about the most shallow answer ever.
      Some guy forced to fight in Africa takes what he’s given, & feels glad not to be the next guy, who gets a machete instead of a working gun. He doesn’t give a damn about looking after it, as long as it goes bang.

      • CountryBoy

        If you weren’t so far off in your assessment of these people, you might have a point.

        Read the article again – these guys are POACHERS, not soldiers. They are criminals, not “freedom fighters” or even insurgents.

        They are considered criminals wherever you go.

        Now, try that again.

        • Nigel Tolley

          Haha.
          Just because you weren’t there when he started as a child soldier, or his country fell to bits, or was simply driven by poverty, doesn’t mean he wasn’t forced.

          • CountryBoy

            Pure speculation on your part. You know nothing of the history of these poachers, nor do you know if they even WERE soldiers, let alone “child soldiers”. Do you have proof? Of course not; you don’t know these guys from Adam.

            If you’ve ever traveled outside the U.S. you’ll know that there are open markets – bazaars – at which weapons such as AK-47s are freely sold, along with RPGs and grenades.

            You’re reading an awful lot into what was an arrest of illegal poaching; perhaps you’re not interested in the facts, but that is what justice is based on, and most countries outside the U.S. don’t take any “child soldier” stories into consideration, certainly not in favor of the criminal.

            The “force” you speak of that is behind poaching is purely monetary, and it isn’t driven by emotions.

          • Nigel Tolley

            So you really think that guy really cared deeply about his AK? Really?
            He’d have cared more for an AR because some guy in America thought he should? Because that’s the topic you started on: an AR would’ve been treated somehow better. And I’m just not seeing it.

          • CountryBoy

            A soldier realizes his weapon is life or death.

            A poacher uses it as a tool to slaughter an animal, and less to defend himself.

            You completely missed the point. AKs are much more disposable than ARs because they’re easily obtained in any number of African or Middle Eastern countries out in the open. They’re cheap to buy, cheap to run, and it shows in things like this.

            My point, which you missed while defending a criminal as a “child soldier” (which has no basis at all), was that you’d expect to find an AK like this more than you would an AR.

            You’re right – you’re just not seeing it, but don’t let your lack of reality confuse things. I don’t think this guy cared AT ALL about his AK, and that was shown in the treatment of it. He’s NOT a soldier, he’s a criminal – there is no “company armorer” or weapons technician.

            Where are you coming up with these things?

          • Cmex

            I’ve seen some pictures of M16’s in Africa. Outside of military hands, and yes there are African states that issue M16’s. they look pretty darn beaten up; it’s just that polymer doesn’t show mistreatment like wood and steel. It’s a question of resources and training. If you’re a poacher in Africa, your assault rifle is actually pretty important, because the park rangers won’t think twice about going ballistic on you.

  • MichaelZWilliamson

    I’m surprised anyone in that part of the world would care about the sights.

    • They probably kept it in place so they wouldn’t lose their “power setting”, and they leave it at ” 8″ for “max power”…

  • Steve_7

    There are lot of old M16A1s in places like Burma, Laos and Cambodia that are still in working condition, barely. They don’t work that well anymore, usually the furniture is badly damaged and so is the gas tube, but as a single-shot they still work. Especially the later ones with the chrome-lined barrels.
    One of El Chapo’s bodyguards had an XM16E1 on him when he was captured, presumably came up from El Salvador as Vietnam gave some to the FMLN.

  • Cobranut

    I know there’s no way in heII I’d fire that thing. LOL

  • John Smith

    Gas tube 100% not needed.

  • IIRC, David Hackworth noted that the rifles of the “Presidential Guard” troops in Haiti (before we sent an intervention force in in the 1990s had Garands that were covered in dust and noticeably missing key parts of the gas system.

  • BLK RFL DIV

    Great story. I grabbed the pic from Jon and posted it on AK Files with his permission and credited you on the post, however, I didn’t have your name and placed his on the photo. I did not know if you wanted to be credited by name and I did not ask you, but I also didn’t expect the photo to land on TFB. But here it is on TFB now, and rightfully so, it’s a sight to behold.

  • BLK RFL DIV

    Great story and thank you for sharing.

    I grabbed the pic from Jon and posted it on AK Files (which is the pic TFB is using) with his permission and credited you on the post, however, I didn’t have your name and placed Jon’s on the photo. In hindsight I should have tried to contact you first and get your name and company logo on there. My apologies. I also didn’t expect the photo to land on TFB, but here it is on TFB now, and rightfully so, it’s a sight to behold.

    I look forward to seeing the video.