Apex Releases J-Plate Base Pad for Magpul GL9 Magazines… And its Near Worthless

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Okay, I admit it, I’ve been known to poke fun at various press releases and products, but rarely do I feel compelled to flat out tell someone not to buy something (with the recent exception of the Champagne Tommy Gun). The latest product release from APEX Tactical Specialists fits the bill and a product that I would call completely useless.

Apex has announced the release of their new J-Plate Base Pad for Magpul’s GL9 Glock magazines. The new pad is an anodized 6061 aluminum plate featuring laser etched marks for “identification dots”  and APEX’s logo. The dots are about the most useful part of the product which are not even paint-pen ready.

Touted to use the factory retention plate, the individual aluminum base pads clock in at $14.95 PER PAD! That is more expensive than the magazine one was purchasing to begin with and it does not add anything to the magazine except the .045 ounces which supposedly “adds weight for faster magazine changes”. I call BS. .045 ounces (or .0028 lbs/1.27 grams) is an absolutely negligible difference.

As such, one is basically paying to to add a metal base-plate to a polymer magazine when the polymer floor-plate is more than enough to exceed any requirement, I mean its Magpul after all.

If the APEX J-Plate actually added a better surface to rip magazines out of the handgun or added capacity it may be worth a look, but as it is, I not so humbly assert that you not spend your money on this accessory.

If you wish to ignore my advice, its available through Brownells or direct from APEX Tactical. 

 



Nathan S.

One of TFB’s resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.

Nathan can be reached at Nathan.S@TheFirearmBlog.com

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Martin Frank

    “I mean its magpul after all” ya cause they make wonder things. Like those amazing zhukov stocks that break easier than my 99 year old grandmas hip. Or those marvelous ak “pmags” that are longer than any other 30 round mag. They must have not tested those mags on a single ak with a foregrip or they would have noticed that they dont work! They’re too long! I have 4 sitting in the closet that i cant even put into my rifle so i use tapcos!!! Magpul Is garbage. They should stick to iphone cases.

    • Jwedel1231

      “Magpul is garbage” might be a bit hyperbolic, especially since they changed the entire magazine industry for ARs over a decade ago and still continue to dominate, not to mention the great stuff they make that isn’t one of the 2 items you mentioned.

      Also, keeping 4 magazines around that you cannot even use is stupid.

      • MR

        I generally agree with this comment, however I’m keeping my unneeded AK mags until the next panic.

        • Jwedel1231

          Disregard my comment about keeping mags, if later resale is intended.

          • MR

            Actually, I’m keeping them as insurance against future panics. As long as I keep them, they’ll be worthless. Once I sell them for cheap, the supply of alternatives will dry up, and their value will skyrocket.

    • dan

      Right magpul is garbage, because the product you created rakes in sooooo much money and fanboy status right?

      • MR

        ? Not familiar

    • Kivaari

      These are not Magpul items, are they? It seems that they are Apex add-ons.

      • MR

        I guess that makes them an overpriced accessory for a garbage product. In Martin’s view, anyway.

  • DIR911911 .

    now that’s a video I’m glad I didn’t miss . . . and why would you include an installation video for a product you DON’T RECOMMEND ?

    • Caroline B Rozek

      That’s from Apex, not TFB

      • MR

        Yeah, but it was included in the TFB post. And now that the video is so highly recommended, I’m gonna have to go back and watch it.

        • MR

          Hmm. Yeah, that’s okay, I suppose. Pretty much went just as I expected it to. Glockstore’s video on their Glock 43 mag extensions has a nice plot twist in it, as required by the design of the Glock magazines.

  • Lew Siffer

    Is this another April Fool joke?

  • thedonn007

    So, who would actaully buy this, and how many are they hoping to sell?

    • Mcameron

      the same people who buy the glock buttplugs and faceplates………theyll probably sell a ton of them

      • dan

        Buttplugs and faceplates? Hmm…….tactical sex toys!!!! The next tactical genre has been created!

        • MR

          Moving away from quadrails just in time. Though it’d add new meaning to “ribbed for her pleasure.”

  • ExMachina1

    Yeah…I’m having a hard time finding a need for this.

    • MR

      Could buy a bunch and use them as tactic-cool poker chips. Or just one, and use it as a Monopoly token. I’m seeing them laid out as a mosaic tile floor in your new bathroom remodel. The possibilities are only limited by your imagination and budget.

      • Suppressed

        I’m doing the backsplash in my kitchen with them.

        • MR

          “Better Homes and Gardens”, here we come!

    • Kivaari

      It is designed to make money for the maker. I suspect it wont make them much money.

      • MR

        At those prices, they won’t have to sell very many.

  • manBear

    looks much more coolerer … I’m in for 10

  • Harrison Jones

    This is out of sorts for apex. Usually their product address a specific need that is not being filled. It doesn’t even look cool which could be argued to be a legitimate reason.

    • Jwedel1231

      Agreed. It seems like they jumped on a bandwagon here, which seems out of character.

  • Badwolf

    hope apex doesnt sue you nathan

    • Sianmink

      APEX FLOOR PLATES ARE CRISCO

      • MR

        Pssshh…C’mon, Crisco wouldn’t have the physical viscosity to form a magazine floorplate above very low temperatures. More like “APEX FLOORPLATES ARE TUPPERWARE”

        • MR

          Wait, it’s aluminum? Ah, crap, who manufactures aluminum cookware? Uhh….*runs off to check Google*…

          • MR

            Seriously, though, if you want to add weight, wouldn’t steel be a better material? And if they made it out of tungsten, they could better justify the price.

          • Kivaari

            And it would only add more money spent on unneeded parts. That’s OK. as I like people to buy things that cost money and generate profit. I can’t figure out the need or if the $15 addition has a function.

          • MR

            Might add more to the R&D budget for worthwhile parts.

        • DiverEngrSL17K

          One can actually put Tupperware to many more useful applications than this particular item, and at a lower cost too.

          • MR

            Not if what you really need is a magazine base plate.

          • DiverEngrSL17K

            True, but although I’m sure the Apex base pads work very well, is the cost justifiable versus perfectly functional OEM floor plates / base pads? Perhaps someone who has tried them can enlighten us in case there is something we are all missing regarding this topic.

          • MR

            That test would have been a nice item to include in this article.

          • Kivaari

            Those people willing to spend $15 for each floor plate can still buy them. I suspect most of we Glock owners will not see any advantage to them. You may like the idea, and for that reason Apex is making them, and will sell them to those willing to pay the price. It is that simple. I don’t have to test a product to know it is too expensive. I can’t see a line in the gun stores for such products. I do dislike the race guns used in matches as the prices and added junk make them less usable in the real world. I liked shooting in IDPA matches, and in all but one competition, I used S&W revolvers in .38, .357, .44 Special and .45 ACP. I won my division, since I was the only one shooting revolvers. Yet, it was much more fun for me than using a semi-auto. I’d put tens of thousands of rounds down range out of semi-auto pistols. I used the matches to have fun.

    • Kivaari

      Or, are they made from Crisco? Plant oils show up in quite a bit of gun lube products. The LSA circa Vietnam era, isn’t good, as it separates in a little time. I had bought quite a bit of real issue LSA, and found it useless after 3 years. In the Army NG we switched to Breakfree.

      • MR

        If they were plastic, I suppose they could possibly be made from some formulation of Crisco, but since they’re aluminum, I kind of doubt it.

  • DW

    Every product has its uses. This one’s for mall ninja identification and grading.

  • Edeco

    I look down my snood at these as well. Which I can totally do without being a hypocrite because I don’t have one of the glass-breaker pads. No indeed.

  • Samael527

    what does it do

  • FLdeepdiver

    I’m not sure why this is a article. If you don’t care for the product, just say nothing. Instead you inadvertently promoted the product you feel negatively about.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Think the point is, it’s THAT stupid of a product.

      • Mcameron

        eh, there are a LOT of stupid products in the firearms industry……are we going to be expecting posts on ALL of them when the TFB writters obviously have nothing else to write about?

        • John L.

          One might hope that, yes. Wave-off of useless or otherwise bad products can be quite helpful.

        • Kivaari

          Why not?

          • MR

            Because it’s nothing more than filler and clickbait.

      • Exactly. Most release stupid with little fanfare, this was full blown press release.

        • MR

          With full media coverage, apparently.

        • MR

          *guess who just got crossed off of Apex’s mailing list.

      • MR

        NATHAN HATES THEM!! See how Apex used this one weird baseplate to take the tactic-cool industry by storm!

      • MR

        It seems that the price is the stupid thing here, the product might not be that bad.

        • Kivaari

          At $3 each, I’d try a couple. I never had issues with Glock magazines, until the 1994 AWB forced 10 round magazines.

    • Evan

      I disagree. I think negative product reviews are a good thing sometimes. If a product is junk, it’s important to know that it’s junk. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like print gun mags; all the reviews say that every new product is the best thing since pockets, even if it’s something asinine like the Taurus Curve.

      • M-cameron

        the thing is….this isnt a negative product review…….its not even a product review……its the author complaining so he can publish an article.

        its him saying “oh look, this looks stupid!”

        its not the same as him reviewing the product, and giving it a fair, but negative review, that would at least be beneficial and interesting to read.

        • Evan

          I disagree. He’s saying “this product has no advantage over the stock part it’s intended to replace”. That’s really THE germane bit of information.

          • m-cameron

            and is that honestly news to anyone?…….

          • Evan

            It was news to me, as I’ve never heard of this product before. Not that I was in the market, but still.

          • MR

            Must… have… pointless… base… plate…

          • MR

            Has he tried the product? If not, there might be something he’s missing. Getting close to TTAG territory, complaining about products without a fair trial period.

          • Kivaari

            Some products simply don’t need a field trial to show they are a waste of money. How often do Glock floor plates fail? I never had a standard capacity Glock floor plate fail. I’ve seen the Plus 2 add-ons fail when dropped when loaded. So, I don’t buy them. I wouldn’t buy this product either.

          • MR

            These don’t have anything to do with Glock floorplates. These replace the floorplates on Magpul magazines for Glocks. Now, admittedly I haven’t seen any of those fail, but that may or may not have to do with the fact that I’ve never even seen one of those in person. Will it break the first time it’s dropped, fully loaded, onto the base plate? The tenth time? They’re simply too new to the market to have adequate information from real-world environments.

          • Kivaari

            Why buy magazines not made by Glock? Saving two or three dollars seems like a waste, when authentic Glock magazines are quite good. Magpul is going to sell a lot of them. That is why Magpul is there. Apex is thinking they can make and sell enough of these to justify the tooling and marketing. I will buy Glock magazines and no new floor plates.

          • MR

            Options. Relying on one source for anything that can make or break your operation is foolish. I want to have as many sources of quality parts available as possible, so if one source becomes unavailable, I can transition to the next.

      • Kivaari

        It just shows people that these are a waste of money. You could buy spare magazines instead of wasting money on a useless item.

        • MR

          If they can’t figure that out on their own, maybe they should be buying these, and leaving the extra mags on the market for me.

      • MR

        IF the product is junk. At this point, we don’t know that this product is junk. All we know is that this product is overpriced.

      • MR

        Thing is, most of the blogger articles I’ve seen bashing the Taurus Curve, aren’t actually bashing the Taurus Curve. They’ll spend a full half to three-quarters of the article bashing the print media for sins real and imagined, then they’ll bash the slip-on quasi-holster claiming that they’ve never seen anyone use anything like that, and that no one ever would. “Have you ever seen someone use one?” they ask. Well, no, but I’ve only recently actually seen a Serpa holster in use. Honestly, I haven’t actually seen a Taurus Curve in person, either. That’s okay, neither have they, which they make clear as they refer to it as “striker fired” (it’s not) and tell us that sticking it in your pocket without a holster is dangerous. Well, yeah, isn’t that true of any gun? That’s why they include the pocket holster. Which may or may not ever get used, I don’t trust the clearly biased sources on either side of the debate, because 90% of them have never even seen or handled the thing, outside of two minutes at the display table of a gun show. The Curve might be a piece of junk, I won’t know unless I get one myself, because I can’t find a trustworthy source that’s actually reviewed it, IRL, instead of looked at the press release and thought up stuff they could whine about.

        Which is the real damage posts like this cause. Chipping away at TFB’s credibility. Gonna publish a hit piece on a product you’ve never handled? Guess I’ll file this site with the “entertainment purposes only” bookmarks on my browser, the “reliable sources” bookmark section is shrinking daily.

        • Evan

          Every review I’ve read of the Curve falls into one of two categories: the breathless with hyperbolic praise “this is groundbreaking” nonsense that was blatantly sponsored by Taurus, and the “this gun is pointless and ridiculous whether it works or not, but it seems to work OK” reviews which seem a lot more honest.

      • Kivaari

        I don’t think there was any complaint about the product being bad, just overpriced.

    • Kivaari

      It’s nice to see honesty in the gun press. I’ve seen pressure from advertisers that stopped honest reporting.

      • MR

        “I’ve never even handled these, but the press release looks stupid, so I’m gonna rag on them for a while.”

        • Kivaari

          Why not? It’s a floor plate that costs $15. That is a really stupid product. Like people buying extended aluminum bases for M16 magazines that cost nearly $50. Some buy them, but why? I can buy 4 Pmags or USGI mags for the price of an extension. When I used MP5s and M4 carbines for work, I preferred loading only 25 rounds. I figured that two SMG or carbine magazines should settle the fight. If it didn’t I had three Glock 17 mags down loaded to 15 rounds. Then 5 rounds of .38 special in my other pocket. Spares in the trunk along with a shotgun loaded with rubber baton loads and a 10-22 rifle. If I last long enough to need those, I hope my backup arrives in time to save my ass.

          • MR

            Options. Yeah, these cost more than I’m likely to pay. I could tell that from the listing on their website. Don’t need a blogger to tell me that. Now he’s promoting a negative view of Apex products in general. If that’s his goal, fine, I guess, but it seems like a shifty way to go about it.

          • Kivaari

            I doubt I ever used the Apex website. I’m not a big fan of slapping more junk onto guns.

  • Kevin Riley

    Glock’s website has regular floor plates for the mags for $2.00 and +1 or +2 floor plates for $5.00.

    If you’re going to charge $14.95 each it better add at least 10 rounds to the bottom of my standard magazine. Hell, I can but 33 round after market magazines at a gun show for $20. smh

  • Sianmink

    They should at least have anodized it blue to match my comp gear.

    • MR

      Yep, they should add more color/logo options. Shouldn’t be difficult.

  • Ambassador Vader

    what is the point of marking all the pads with identification numbers if they are all the same numbers, i mean to really differentiate you have to mark the mags yourself. Plus if you mark one side of the mag that will throw off your magazine base reloading weight resulting in an unbalanced and slower reload. *sarcasm*

  • stephen

    $14.95 for no added round capacity and it adds 0.045 ounces to your mag… Seriously? I would like to see the tests showing how remarkable this product is versus regular base plates (just don’t mentions Crisco or they might sue you).

    If your so concerned about mag changes & reloads, save the $ and do lots of dry fire practice.

    I’m surprised this even made it to market.

    • Mcameron

      theres a lot of crap in the firearms industry…..and this is what surprises you?

      aftermarket glock floor plates are nothing new….been around for ages……but all of a sudden everyone needs to crap on them?

    • MR

      Good luck seeing any actual tests. Gonna be split between those saying these are the best thing in the history of ever, because *Apex*, and those bashing them without ever actually handling them.

  • Suppressed

    I just wanna say, that if an Apex rep is gonna come on here and give the “we’re just giving the customer/shooting community what they want” statement, they should link us to where we can see 100+ date-verified emails from at least several months ago of people asking for this product.

    • Mcameron

      ….why?……

      does this product really bother you that much?

      • Suppressed

        About as much as my comment bothers you.

    • MR

      How ’bout they just say “We’re giving Bob what he wants.”, and display an email from Bob?

      • Suppressed

        Well, while I would definitely question their business sense, I guess I would have to give them credit for exceptional customer support/service. Either that or wonder what kind of blackmail “Bob” has on them…

        • MR

          Maybe he just spends a lot with them, and they want to show their appreciation.

          • Suppressed

            Ugh, I’m so confused. For some reason I now feel obligated to make custom magazine base pads for my girlfriend.

          • MR

            *fighting urge to make rude innuendo*

  • El Duderino

    Needs more Punisher logo or biohazard sticker (and be lime green).

    • MR

      That. I’m looking at putting a barrel bushing style muzzlebrake on my 1911, but the ones in stock all have Punisher, Hitman, or 3%er logos on them. And if push comes to shove, and I have to use the firearm for self-defense, I don’t really want the prosecutor to be associating me with any of those.

      • NDS

        Wilson Combat.

        • MR

          Thanks. I’ll be sending some coin their way shortly.

  • Rog Uinta

    If these prevent just one purchase of the “Manly Innovations” buttplate-mounted knife blade, I say APEX is doing the right thing.

  • Andy Leach

    The STUNNING inability of gun people to grasp “If you don’t like it, don’t buy it” continues to dash my hopes for humanity.

    If you think this is stupid, it isn’t for you. If you think it’s neat, it is.

    And if you’re complaining that $15 is too expensive, buddy, you need a better job and a different hobby…..

    • MR

      $15 isn’t too much for something that offers a tangible advantage, and Apex is free to price these wherever they want, but without something else going for it I don’t think they’ll sell very many. Never know, I’ve been wrong before.

    • janklow

      …so someone’s opinion on this product is only valid if they like it?

      • MR

        Just offering different viewpoints.

      • MR

        More like, their opinion is only valid if they have something valid to base it on.

    • MR

      The local sporting goods store has boxes upon boxes of 22lr match ammo on the shelf. For $20 per fifty round box. Is $20 too expensive? Not for something useful. But for that price I can get a 50rd box of steelcase .223, or brasscase 9mm with change leftover. So the absolute price of something isn’t the only factor to consider, you also have to consider what alternatives are available. Well, you don’t have to, but many people would.

      • MR

        But yeah, the “We demand limited options!!1!” mindset continues to take me by surprise.

  • David G

    Great review. You should do another article that outlines why Faxon created an AK upper for the AR that no one asked for or wants.

    • Nicholas C

      You do realize Nathan works for Faxon right?

      • displacer

        Congrats on getting the joke, I guess

    • Troll level set to expert! Bravo, sir.

      • MR

        NOICE!

  • Nicholas C

    Adding weight for faster mag changes is a myth. We learned from astronauts and physics that gravity affects all objects the same and they all fall at the same rate However added weight can have an affect against other variables such as coefficient of friction. If the magazine is not drop free and sticks in the mag well, then added weight can help overcome friction. But I do not think that is what these base pads do.

    One thing I found while using the Magpul Glock mags is that a Glock 17 PMAG sits flush inside my ALG defense flared mag well. The problem arises when trying to rip the magazine out due to a malfunction. I cannot get access to the magazine. I need longer mags or thicker base pads.

    • Exactly.

    • MR

      I thought we learned that from Newton, when the Glock mag fell out of the Magpul tree, due to the extra strain of the weighted baseplate.

      • Kivaari

        It came long before Newton. Like Roman cement, it got lost for hundreds of years when they lost the formula.

        • MR

          That Roman crap is overpriced. Gotta go with Reddi-Mix.

    • Kivaari

      Yep! Wasn’t that first demonstrated by an old Italian guy dropping balls from the Leaning Tower of Pizza?

    • port

      It is not exactly a free fall, added weight helps overcome resistance from the magazine port and also from the catch release when not fully depressed as often happens while reloading in the heat of competition. It may be particularly useful with these extra light magazines like GL9’s where that half ounce could make a difference.

      • JK

        You mean half-tenth of an ounce.

  • MR

    Well… I guess options are good. This does seem kind of pointless and expensive, but it’s not like they’re making me buy it. I guess if they added it to a “required inventory” list for dealers, that could be a problem. Otherwise, I don’t really understand the vitriol.

  • Cal S.

    When seconds count, you’re gonna need that extra 0.045oz to help with the tangential momentum of the positively articulating lateral dynamic movement of your radiocarpal joint to assist with the kinetic exchange of the ammunition feeding device.

    Commonly referred to as the ‘Mag flip’.

  • Kivaari

    Wow!!! An honest report, that is so unlike most of the gun press.

    • MR

      Except it isn’t. It’s a knee jerk reaction to a press release of a product that Nathan S. has apparently never actually had any experience with.

      • Kivaari

        It is easy to think this product is an over-priced accessory, without ever buying or handling one. I learned enough in the article to know why it is over-priced and therefor not worth wasting money on. I carried a Glock 17 for work, and I never had issues with factory magazines.

        • MR

          Yes, it is easy to think that. It is impossible to know that without a full trial and review. Rather than publish a full article on what is easy to think, TFB would better serve its readers, and its own reputation, by contacting Apex and seeing about getting a set to do a full review on. Don’t want to do all that work? No problem! Just don’t publish an article based on zero firsthand information.

          • Kivaari

            Price alone is enough to show they are over-priced, and therefor a poor investment. For $60 I can buy three more magazines.

          • MR

            A.Where’d the sixty dollars come into the duscussion? and
            B. Link? (I assume you’re referring to brand new OEM Glock 17 mags)

          • Kivaari

            It came from having no less than 4 magazine each having a $15 floor plate. Id rather buy more magazines than overpriced floor plates. What link did I need to think $15 each is too much money?

        • MR

          You’ve learned nothing from this article that you couldn’t have learned from the listing on the Apex site. Other than Nathan’s opinion, I suppose.

          • Kivaari

            Not true. I learned they cost $15 each. That is enough information for me to think they are overpriced and therefore a poor choice. I didn’t need to know anymore than that. It’s quite simple if you put your mind to it.

          • MR

            You’ve learned they cost fifteen dollars. Gee, I wonder where else you could get that information. Perhaps the listing on Apex’s website, like I suggested? Nah, couldn’t be.
            Does everything Apex sell overpriced garbage? If they price this item so far above market value, how badly are they gouging us on their other items?

  • Kivaari

    Why bother buying Magpul Glock magazines, considering real Glock magazines don’t cost that much more? I like Magpul Pmags, so I’d probably like the Glock ones as well. Taping a new revenue string is fine. but these things are a waste of money.

    • MR

      Options. I don’t want to be limited to one supplier for anything that’s important to me. The company I work for has that situation, and it can really suck when the supplier isn’t on their game. Always better to have more options for quality products.

    • Doom

      I probably wouldn’t buy them, Im fairly certain they dont even have metal feed lips. If you are ok with that, then have at it, but I certainly like the extra durability of the steel, especially when it comes to accidentally dropping a loaded magazine.

      • Kivaari

        That is my point. Saving a couple bucks buying the Magpul magazines doesn’t make sense to me. As much as I like the Pmag M16 magazines, I have to admit that the USGI magazines I’ve used for 50 years are long lasting and cost less. In the Glock, I will use Glock magazines. Although I keep a pile of M4 Pmags on hand, I mostly use GI mags, with Magpul no-tilt followers. That isn’t because of any failures with issue mags, it just sounded like a good idea that couldn’t hurt. Yep, that contradictory, but followers don’t cost $15 each plus HIS.

        • Doom

          Oops, meant to reply to MR, I know you weren’t into these mags/ baseplates.

          P Mags are very well made AR style magazines, but they also have feed lip problems, or at least the old ones did.

          I am sure I will buy some when I get around to owning an AR 15. Thats what I love about the AKM, almost all the magazines are dirt cheap, steel, or steel lined polymer. I own some non metal lined TAPCO mags, only reason I bought them was for plinking, and the fact that they cost me 5.60 each lol. gotta love it.

          • Kivaari

            At one time I owned 25 AK variants, and my rule was to have 11 magazines for each rifle. I’ve had around 15 AR-type rifles in the same time period, but have reduced that pile substantially. I still keep 12 magazines for each of them. I use 4 typs. 3 Pmags in black, OSG and FDE and GI mags. Plus the mst used one is a 5 shot for use on the bench. But, you can never have enough magazines or spare parts. I gave up on AKs because of the inability to use the antique sights. I do regret selling my Galils and Valmets. They are very fine rifles.

          • Doom

            Wow, now that is a collection. Id love to have a Type 56 “spiker”, a Valmet, a Galil, and several other AK’s I am still in my 20’s so I should be OK with the sights for a while, and when my eyes start to go I can always use a red dot on the side rail. as of right now, I just have one AK, an SGL 21, but I have 10 chinese Steel Mags, 10 yugo BHO mags, 10 Tapco mags, and 4 Russian Bakelite mags. Oh, and my 5 round mag that came with the gun. Best part is I didnt pay more than 10$ for any of the mags 😀

            I really want to get an M16A1 and A2/3/4 Clone. I really love the look of the furniture on those A1’s.

          • Kivaari

            The Galils and Valmets have rear aperture sights. That is a big bonus. At the time quality scope or red dot sight mounts did not exist. There were not many quality red dot sights, in the 70s-80s. Even today I only have one red dot, and EOTech XPS3-0. It is blurry. Scopes having a focus ring are better choices. I use a Leupold Mk4 1.5-5x24mm with illumination. At low power it works like a good red dot. If the battery goes dead, it has a real reticle, but it is very fine. A simpler reticle in a bold size is a better option. I’ve used the older Leupold VX2 3-9x50mm on a Remington M700 Police. That scope is inferior to the VX-3s. That was in the 80s-90s.
            After retiring I walked away from having quantity to having higher quality.

          • MR

            “But you can never have enough magazines or spare parts.” Seems like that’s what I’ve been saying for the last three days.

          • MR

            I’m not into the baseplates, but I’m also not into lazy journalism, trashing a product that hasn’t been tested just to fill a quota or make believe I’ve been productive.

          • Doom

            Not really much testing to do, it is an aluminum baseplate that costs an insane 15 dollars…For a 15 dollar magazine…

          • MR

            As pointed out elsewhere, it might solve an access problem when using a magwell. It might do something else. Don’t know. Read the article, still don’t know.

        • MR

          The first place I looked has Magpul GL9 mags for $14, please direct me to these readily available brand new $16 OEM Glock mags you’re talking about.

  • NDS

    Not to be a wet blanket but these look like IDPA legal base pads so you can run a magwell but still fit in the “box” – Dawson makes something similar for the factory Glock mags.

    Run a magwell with standard baseplates and you really have to pound them in there to make sure they seat properly. I don’t think the added 0.005 ounces or whatever means anything, it’s the added length.

    • JoelM

      No internet high fives for you then I guess. You’re out of the high five club.

      • MR

        His own fault, really. He should know better that to bring logic and reason into an internet witch trial.

    • MR

      If they are longer/thicker/stronger/whatever, that information wasn’t spoonfed to the author, so neither he nor the legions who are willing to take his word as gospel will ever know. Though, I’ll add, they do seem a bit pricey, even if they are thicker. And might do well to add a lip or groove to improve gription when trying to remove a stuck mag with a magwell in place. Something to get a fingernail under, ya know?

    • DiverEngrSL17K

      Hmm, that’s a very good point, assuming that this is the intended purpose. As I had asked in a previous post, is there anyone who has tried these Apex baseplates? Some actual user input would help clarify the matter.

  • Ted Unlis

    Careful with the truthful disclosure there Nathan, Apex might hire the same law firm as FireClean to file a frivolous defamation lawsuit and even though TFB will surely beat the chicken$#!t rap there’s no way around the expensive ride of attorney fees it will cost to defend your 1st amendment right as a blogger.

  • SLINGSHOT

    When do the Titanium and carbon fibre ones come out??

  • MR

    Other than they’re overpriced, I don’t see how this is all that big of a deal.