SCCY Alters Replacement Policy

SCCY Industries, LLC had one of the best warranties in the gun business. Unfortunately, it is now a thing of the past. On March 17, 2016, the company announced on its website that the warranty was changing in a way that will, unfortunately, impact the buyer in a negative way.

Prior to March 17, the company offered a warranty that would replace guns that were stolen or even lost as long as the customer reported the missing gun to the appropriate law enforcement agency. With a police report, SCCY would provide the customer with a new pistol. This was unheard of in the firearms industry.

However, like many good things, a few bad apples really sours the barrel for the rest of us.

According to the company, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) contacted SCCY regarding “an unusual amount of SCCY pistols becoming traced pistols as the result of being used in criminal activity.” Specifically, there was an unusually short amount of time between when guns were purchased and when the guns showed up at a crime scene.

The long and the short of it is SCCY believes that a few customers have been abusing the theft warranty. Presumably, Straw Purchaser A would let Convicted Felon B “steal” the recently purchased gun. Then Straw Purchaser A would simply get a free replacement gun while Convicted Felon B was off committing acts of thuggery.

The warranty definitely set the company apart in the industry. What is your opinion? Did SCCY make the right call, or should they have devised a better approach?

Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is


  • Dan

    Good choice. I support all law abiding people owning guns, but not criminals. Unfortuately, it is the criminals that are gaming the system.

    • paul

      The term here is “law abiding people”. Anyone that is a strawbuyer for a would be felon (who wants a stolen gun) is NOT a law abiding gun owner. At the very least, the buyer should have a second look taken of him/her, maybe a a 6 week wait while they check to see if the gun turns up and if there was a connection between the 2.
      Come on people, legal guns with plenty of knockdown force are available new for right around $100-$200. I think this is an example of overreaction by the powers that be.

      • rick0857

        Show me WHERE I can buy a NEW $100.00 gun!!! Or even $200.00 for that matter. POST YOUR EVIDENCE

        • paul

          Hi point can be had for around $120 check out North American Arms – I have seen many go for $100 and even a little less on line – sadly, since I live in Ca, I have to settle for used or another Hi Point(which always works). I have seen Double Tap guns go for less than $100 also.
          The point is what you can buy them for, not “suggested price”

        • Edeco

          Leinad single-barrel “derringer”s go for less than $100 online, apparently (I haven’t tried to buy one because yech).

        • paul

          Check out the “Cobra” handguns, they have many models and they are made in USA.
          They are not Glocks or even name brands, but they do the job, are concealable and some come in pretty pastel collors for your girlfriend(or even you, hey, who am I to judge?)

      • Kivaari

        What GOOD quality handguns are that cheap? I would not want a zinc frame and slide on any gun. Some people can’t afford better quality, but they should save up and buy a better grade used gun.

  • datimes

    Some things never change.

  • PeterK

    Sounds like the right call to me. Sucks, but you do what you gotta do.

  • Joel

    Definitely the right call. I’m surprised it took this long for reality to rear it’s ugly head.

  • Slim934

    It’s a shame, but if it gets the ATF off their backs and the psychic benefit to them of knowing they are no longer helping thuggish types to arm themselves, then yeah it’s a good call.

  • Drew Coleman

    Given the situation, they made the right call. It still makes me mad because that was a selling point when I bought one to keep around as a spare.

    • Do you support a change in legislation that would straw buyers be accessories to the crimes committed by the person using the straw bought guns.

      • Drew Coleman

        Not by default – the straw buyer would still have to know that the person intended to commit a crime with it.

      • Kelly Jackson

        Straw purchasers already face 5 to 10 years in prison for lying on their paperwork. In 2012 however only 17 people were prosecuted for buying a gun for someone else.

        In fact Obama appointed Judge Eleanor L. Ross. sentenced Jalita Johnson to just 40 hours of community service and 120 days of house arrest after she knowingly bought a handgun for her felon boyfriend Marcus Wheeler who used the gun to kill a police officer

        Why do we need more laws if nobody is enforcing the ones already on the books?

        • Its one year. The reason why federal prosecuters don’t charge. Having the straw purchaser be an accessory would be something that prosecutors would love to be able to do.

          • Kelly Jackson

            The reason why federal prosecutors don’t charge is because
            the straw purchaser is typically a minority female buying for her gang banging boyfriend.

            Gun prosecutions are down 25% under Obama.

  • DIR911911 .

    sounds like the dumbest warranty around to begin with , why would someone replace anything just because you lost it? this was asking to be ripped off.

    • Stolen property is often covered by insurance under certain conditions. Same for lost propery.

      • DaveK

        And it’s often not covered as well. If your insurance policy covers firearms chances are it’s only for about 2K give or take $500. More relevant is the fact you have a deductible and it’s likely at least $250 and very well could be more. So either way insurance is an irrelevant one’s SCCY is “stolen.”

        • DaveK

          Last sentence, take 2: So either way insurance is irrelevant if one’s SCCY is “stolen.”

    • Mike Lashewitz

      This is what happens when you cater to the “Millenial” market. I mean when you are offended by chalk markings of “Trump 2016” you most certainly would whine for a free replacement when you are “thugged”. Responsibility is painless for millenials. Or it seems it was…

  • Guy in a gun store

    100% the right call, at the shop I work in we’d have the same customer in 3+ times because of a “stolen” pistol, of course the batf was notified of these “thefts” but the fact remains when you have people coming in saying “my pistol was stolen is this were I get my free gun” it tends to raise concerns and rightfully so.

  • iksnilol

    They flew to close to the sun and fell from the SCCY.

    No ragrets.

  • FLdeepdiver

    My opinion: This has more to do with this firearm being cheap, than the buyers having criminal intent. Let’s face it, this gun is not all that pleasant to shoot and many are not a fan of the long double action trigger, so most new firearms owners would most likely be steered elsewhere. In my experience, the predominant buyers of this handgun are existing firearms owners looking for a cheap gun to leave in their vehicles. Many…if not most firearms stolen, are stolen out of vehicles. No doubt the policy of replacing the firearm if stolen enhanced the premise of a second gun to leave in a vehicle.

  • Tommyboy

    good call—-“-If you straw buy,we kill you “, ” If you falsify paperwork,we kill you ” If you violate our gun laws, we kill you”——-Benito Mussolini, 1929

  • B Hawk

    Right…Because there are SO many legal, non-felon gun owners willing to risk up to 10 years in prison, and $250,000 fine for ALLOWING a FELON to steal their firearm. “The long and the short of it is SCCY believes that a few customers have been abusing the theft warranty.” SCCY “believes” a few customers have been abusing the theft warranty? I believe SCCY never researched how many firearms legitimately get lost or stolen, and once claims started coming in, they realized their mistake and backtracked on their warranty. In 2012, the ATF reported 190,000 firearms were lost or stolen nationwide.

    • Except its not ten years in jail or a quarter million dollar fine. Its one year and most prosecutors will not charge because of the pathetic amount of time. Over half of the guns that wind up in criminal hands were straw bought.

      • B Hawk

        Federal Law

        Federal law prohibits straw purchases by criminalizing the making of false statements to an FFL about a material fact on ATF Form 4473, or presenting false identification in connection with the firearm purchase. Two federal statutes – 18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(6) and 18 U.S.C. § 924(a)(1)(A) – are the primary laws under which straw purchases are prosecuted.

        First, 18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(6) prohibits any person:

        [I]n connection with the acquisition or attempted acquisition of any firearm or ammunition from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, knowingly to make any false or fictitious oral or written statement or to furnish or exhibit any false, fictitious, or misrepresented identification, intended or likely to deceive such importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector with respect to any fact material to the lawfulness of the sale or other disposition of such firearm or ammunition.

        Subject to limited exceptions, 18 U.S.C. § 924(a)(1)(A) imposes criminal penalties, such as fines and imprisonment, upon any person who:

        [K]nowingly makes any false statement or representation with respect to the information required by [federal firearms law] to be kept in the records of a person licensed under [federal firearms law] or in applying for any license or exemption or relief from disability under the provisions of [federal firearms law].

        These false statements or representations are punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and up to 10 years in prison

      • Aaron E

        You are wrong about the penalties (see B Hawk’s response), and you are wrong about “over half of the guns that wind up in criminal hands were straw bought”.

        In fact, most firearms in criminal hands were stolen, bought on the street, or provided by friends and family (not all of which were straw purchases, just merely handing over a previously owned gun).

      • Kelly Jackson

        Lying on a Form 4473 is a felony punishable up to 5 years in prison.

        Can you cite a source for the rest of your nonsense claims? Because it sounds like media matters nonsense.

  • seems like a common sense move on SCCY’s part.

  • Joe Hathaway

    Unmentioned in these thoughts is whether purchasers who bought the pistol prior to the change can still expect and insist that the warranty in effect at the time of purchase continue to protect them. I love my SCCY CPX-2, it is at home in my front pocket now, and I certainly never expect to need the warranty. But if I ever do, I expect to be able to depend on my warranty just as I now depend on my trusty pocket pal.

  • Southpaw89

    Sucks but I don’t blame them, that warranty was going above and beyond, and of course someone would take advantage of it. All I really expect from manufacturers is a guarantee on their workmanship and materials. This certainly wont impact any future decision to purchase one of their firearms.

  • ChierDuChien

    Straw purchasers will ultimately cost law abiding citizens the right to possess firearms. Sorry, it’s just a matter of time.

  • Patrick Selfridge

    Definitely the right call. If you were that much of an idiot to loose your gun or not have it stored securely……..maybe you should not have one to begin with.

    • CountryBoy

      When your home is burglarized and your gun “safe” proves it “wasn’t” safe, you may then realize there is another side to life.

      If you ever had something stolen, did you then report it to the police and tell them YOU were the idiot?

  • phil box

    you gotta do what you gotta do. scum bags always skirt the rules and fork up everything for the good people.

  • desert

    If people were honest, it would be a great warranty, but with street punks always looking for freebies..I didn’t and don’t see how it could work..don’t blame them one bit!

  • CJS3

    Yeah, it’s the right call. I’m sure upper management used the warranty as a sales gimmick. Unfortunately, the marketing exec that came up with the idea, didn’t take basic human dishonesty into account.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    As long as they honor the warranty of the original buyers of days past why wouldn’t anybody be OK? All new buyers like new military enlistees BEWARE you get what you pay (or sign) for. Cutting benefits is what the US Government is good at.
    I was promised free medical care for me and my spouse but I have been paying since I retired.

  • rick0857

    Good call for SCCY. As for everyone else include them on your homeowners insurance policy and problem solved.
    I have all mine listed with NO DEDUCTIBLES on any of them, and guess what, it only raised my policy cost around $20.00 per year for more than a few thousand worth of guns. (don’t want to be too specific)

  • paul

    Sorry, good quality guns cost more than $100 – $200, that is just a fact. If handguns had the work they put into German/Czech/Belgian versions before WWII, we would be paying in the $2000 range. So, even the Highly regarded Glocks, Czs and American name brand handguns are a bargain. Even knives are a bargain when you compare to then.

    My statement was to show that they do not have to tap the freebie SCCY gun, that there are others that will do the same job. Of course, if you need top of the line, you are free to do so, but I was speaking about criminals getting thier hands on something that works.

    BTW – The Hi-Point has never given us a problem and has a great lifetime guarantee,
    try one before you bash them. The idea that more people can afford to feel safe in thier homes and work is a great thing. Firearms make us citizens, not subjects.

  • Jayste

    Well there goes the best thing about the that pistol. They made the right move, but now they will take a hit in the sales market. Think they could of found a better way to stop the thuggery. Maybe a 90 day waiting period.

  • skjtnc

    SCCY had a great idea and it’s come back to bite them in the butt. To bad for them and honest buyer’s. Like other poster’s have said, it just takes a few people to illegally take advantage of that kind of warranty. Although I’ve never bought one of their pistols I have considered doing it when I had some extra $ for a leave in the (locked) car gun. Now… probably not.