Suarez International Debuts Slide For Leupold Deltapoint Pro

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With the relatively “new” craze of mounting optics to your handgun comes another entry into the market, specifically for the Leupold Deltapoint Pro (I am firmly in “Camp Leupold”). Who would have anticipated the popularity of Glocks for getting “raced” up? 🙂

Suarez International is offering selected slide models designated V4 specifically for the Leupold Deltapoint Pro which they found to be good competitor for the Trijicon RMR (though they are not saying it is “necessarily better”, just that it has “many features that make it a very strong competitor to the RMR and addresses some of the dislikes end-users have with the RMR”).

  • The front sight can be combined with a dovetail mounted rear sight (or with the Leupold supplied rear sight that attaches directly to the Deltapoint Pro).
  • The aluminum housing is shrouded by spring steel for extra protection, and Suarez International believes that this offers better protection than other red dot sights.
  • The optic itself gives a slightly wider field of view and has two reticle versions; a 2.5-MOA red dot or a 7.5 MOA red triangle. You can set the intensity of both version via a push button.

We did a write up on the Deltapoint if you would like more details. (Note: I don’t know if the above points are the ones addressing common dislikes about the Trijicon RMR, so feel free to weigh in with some comments.)

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The first run of the Deltapoint Pro slides will be the SI-334 V4 Slides intended for the Glock 3rd Generation Model 34, which is where I suppose most competition oriented slide rebuilds start. They do plan on having other slide models available for the Leupold in the coming months..

Suarez International is, however, the first company to offer match quality slides dedicated and built from the ground up to utilize the Leupold Deltapoint Pro.

You can find out more information and order (MSRP $349) at: http://www.onesourcetactical.com/suarez-v4-si334-slide-black-1.aspx#.VvANhxIrIUF



Tom is a former Navy Corpsman that spent some time bumbling around the deserts of Iraq with a Marine Recon unit, kicking in tent flaps and harassing sheep. Prior to that he was a paramedic somewhere in DFW, also doing some Executive Protection work between shifts. Now that those exciting days are behind him, he has embraced his inner “Warrior Hippie” and assaults 14er in his sandals and beard, or engages in rucking adventure challenges while consuming craft beer. To fund these adventures, he writes medical software and builds websites and mobile apps. His latest venture is as one of the founders of IronSights.com; a search engine for all things gun related. He hopes that his posts will help you find solid gear that will survive whatever you can throw at it–he is known (in certain circles) for his curse…ahem, ability…to find the breaking point of anything.


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  • Drunk Possum

    I kind of don’t get why they would chose the 34 as a starting point. Besides the coffin cut, the 34 is really only desirable for the longer sight radius in competition. The dot pretty well takes that out of the equation.

    • BattleshipGrey

      I suppose you could eek out a bit more velocity, but not really enough to matter.

    • Anonymoose

      They probably wanted to keep the springs and barrel the same as the stock gun, however, if it comes with its own springs and barrel, I don’t see why you couldn’t just get a regular old G17 and slap this on it.

      • Nicks87

        Yeah you could, G17 and G34 slides are interchangeable.

    • Edeco

      I agree with their decision. I’m not going to go and provide some kind of cogent, objective, bawdy-language-free explanation. Rather, my point is that G34’s are the cat’s ass.

      • Drunk Possum

        Don’t get me wrong, I like my G34, but I just don’t see the reason for this to be G34 from the get go. Maybe a faster lock up time, but this slide doesnt even have the coffin cut, so thats out. The triggers on G34s aren’t really any better than any other Glock, so that’s out. They don’t hold any more rounds than a G17, so that’s out. I mean, seriously, other than just cuz, I just don’t see why they chose G34 as a start point.

        • zippiest

          The answer is, because they could. That’s it. No other explanation necessary.

  • BattleshipGrey

    Since mounting RDS’s on pistols isn’t a cheap endeavor, I’ve pretty much given up on the idea, but I was pleasantly surprised to see the base price was as low as it was. Still not low enough for me to consider though.

    • Nicks87

      Even if you don’t think its practical it might still be worth it just for the training aspect alone. Having a red dot on a pistol has made me a better shooter because watching the dot bounce around tells me what I’m doing wrong and I can make slight adjustments to my technique to keep the dot as steady as possible. Those slight adjustments translate to shooting with iron sights too because you get used to trying to hold the dot steady and you build that muscle memory.

      • BattleshipGrey

        Actually I think they’re extremely practical, for all the reasons you mentioned and more. I just know it’s way beyond my means and I’ll have to manage without most of the stuff on my want list.

        • Nicks87

          I hear ya, at least more companies are starting to jump on the band wagon so prices will start coming down I would think.

          • ExMachina1

            Doubtful. Trijicon and Leupold have a long history of holding fast on their pricing. Wish it were not the case.

  • Nicks87

    My biggest complaint about the RMR is that the dual illuminated ones tend to wash out in certain lighting conditions (mostly when shooting from dark areas to lighted areas). As far as durability, I think the RMR wins. I’ve beat the hell out of them and they still light up and hold zero just fine. I cant say that about a few other brands.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      RMR for sure. I’m just entirely not sold on this whole generation of handgun optics. I really tried to like them, but everything I came back to over and over was that with all the time in the world, 25y+ shots were easier, but when you have to get back on a timer it’s negligible.

      I think they’re great for making poor and average shooters think they are better than they are. They do make good teaching tools for everyone else. I just can’t see actually relying on one unless we’re talking NODs. Next generation of optics might be more appealing, but there is still the draw to dot time that will always feel long.

    • guest

      Tried RMR on a big wheelgun (the fibre-tritium version with green dot).
      Overall the sight is satisfactory, however having two illumination modes does not quite do it. I am ALL for having redundancy and using ambient light – but indoors that can be too little. If they added a third source (battery/LED) so to have 3 sources and ultimately the possibility to make it brighter in adverse conditions – that would be THE compact red dot for any purpose.

    • Hans Gruber

      I shoot USPSA Carry Optics, due to the fact I already had a G19 with an RMR06. That being said, it puts me in a better position to train bi weekly in a stressed competition setting with the same gun I CCWd to the range. You need to train if you rock a dot that’s it. Close range 0-10 not so much 10-50yds yea there is a freakin significant improvement . Suarez has a free PDF of his book online about dots on handguns. Dots are the future, we are still in the beginning stages of. I shoot a G35 a lot better in USPSA Limited than I do the Carry optics. I don’t care.

  • zippiest

    I’m a big fan of the red dot. I just wish there were easier, faster, more affordable options than buying a new slide and barrel or a lot of machining to my existing slide.

    • William Elliott

      Check the One Source Tactical store, they have an L bracket that slides into the rear sight dove tail that is set up for the suppressor sights. [really short sight radius, but it avoids having to modify your slide and is cheaper]

    • Anonymoose

      Trijicon makes bases that slide into the rear sight dovetail, and there are always bridge mounts.

  • Tassiebush

    My understanding is that this isn’t about competition guns so much as a genuine belief that the advance in durability of optic sights is at a point for these to be practical for fighting pistols. There was a recent video on forgotten weapons about the concept. I read the Saurez website on this and the iron sights are very deliberately co-witnessed with the optic one .I’d post a link but I’m on the wrong device.

  • Tierlieb

    One one hand: Suarez Int’l. Hyping whatever item Gabe has in stock.
    On the other hand: Suarez Int’l. Gabe was one of the first to make the PMR work.

  • Zachary marrs

    I wonder if gabe saurez will grace us with his presence again?

  • ExMachina1

    On rifles red dots are no-brainer-great. You have multiple points of contact with the gun and the dot is always just “there”. It’s super fast and accurate.

    On pistols not so much. It’s a great supplement to iron sights but not a replacement (some youtube “trainers” are actually saying that) I’ve been shooting red dots on handguns for over 10 years and while they are better for long range accuracy, they can be noticeably slower up close. With no reliable index points on the body/gun, any kind of unpracticed presentation (maybe from the ground, around a barrier, one-handed, weak-handed etc) will easily leave you hunting for the dot. On the plus side, I’ve learned better trigger control by having a dot–so it’s still worth having at least one pistol with one.

    • Tassiebush

      The idea with this particular set up is the iron sights are useable through the optic so you can use them as a reference point.

      • ExMachina1

        Which is how it should be. My comment was more in the context of some of the “tactical gurus” on youtube telling you that to use a RMR properly you need to forget about your irons. Basically that you can train to be faster if you take your irons off. That’s not true with a pistol. That IS true with a rifle.

        • Tassiebush

          That makes sense. If you check out forgotten weapons a few videos back there’s a cool video about the trijicon optic version of this.

  • gunsandrockets

    I do think these are the wave of the future. But when the total price puts the handgun into the $1,500 range, it is a future I am not willing to pay for.

  • Tep same one I use—love it!