Ideal Conceal Covered in Controversy

We all want to carry to protect ourselves, but matching a comfortable holster to our favorite firearm can sometimes be an exercise in futility. There is one company, however, that believes to have solved the riddle of convenience and comfort.

Ideal Conceal is a company based out of Monticello, MN that has a prototype firearm disguised as an everyday cellphone. By simply hinging the mock cellphone it opens up into a 2-shot derringer chambered in .380 ACP. It uses a striker-fire design so there is no hammer that could possibly get snagged. It also has a built in clip so no extra holster or accessories are required to carry it. This derringer doesn’t have any iron sights to speak of, but it does have a laser built into the frame.

Since this is a prototype firearm with its patents pending no one outside of the company has touched one yet. According to Ideal Conceal’s Facebook page the derringer is supposed to be available “mid 2016.” Already social media is buzzing with positive and negative feedback on this prospective firearm.

Ideal Conceal .380 ACP Derringer

Ideal Conceal .380 ACP Derringer

The two dominant conversations surrounding Ideal Conceal are pretty polar opposite: glowingly optimistic or severely pessimistic. Some people view Ideal Conceal for its curb appeal of convenient to deploy, easy to conceal, and its level of comfort or basically not requiring a holster. The other mindset is that Ideal Conceal creates a horrifying new concern for law enforcement. All cellphones could now be possible weapons used against our men and women in blue. As if their jobs aren’t difficult enough in the heat of the moment they must now decipher and identify if a small object is a possible threat or just another Samsung cellphone.

Ideal Conceal has been receiving a considerable amount of flack for their company’s lone firearm. It is hard to judge something when no one has seen a working model yet; only 3D images. Ideal Conceal’s response to much of the negative press has been: “People always fear that which they don’t understand…”

We hope to see some working models sooner than later so we can form our own educated opinion because Ideal Conceal has definitely piqued our interest.

The outdoors, fitness and anything related to firearms are my passions. I am a S&W Armorer, Glock Armorer, reloader and am coping with an addiction to classic S&W and Colt revolvers (by buying more revolvers). I’ve been a guest writer for Sierra Bullets and love long walks to the gun range.


  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Dude, this story was also just up the other day.

    • TheSmellofNapalm

      They don’t care anymore. The content on this site has become corporatized and every gun writer on the planet wants to make a buck off our blog.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        If they want to do repeats at least make it something interesting.

        This is a stupid idea that will never be sold.

      • Yes we do care but sometimes when you have multiple writers posting as much content as we do it can happen. It wasn’t intentional I can assure you.

        • TheSmellofNapalm

          Sorry, Phil. Long day on the playground.

        • Ringolevio

          How ’bout having a proofreader so you don’t print “flack” when you mean “flak”?

      • Let’s get a few things straight:

        1. We do care. I, for one, care quite a lot about the quality of my content and go to great lengths to make sure I am not duplicating anyone else’s work. We have a system for ensuring this, although since it involves people it is not perfect.

        2. The site is corporatized in the sense that it’s owned by a corporation and has ads. These ads pay the writers, which is for example why you get posts from me 10 times a week as opposed to once a week.

        3. As for writers wanting to make money… Guilty as charged, I guess. If you think that writers shouldn’t get paid, then maybe the Huffington Post is more your speed?

        • TheSmellofNapalm

          Apologies, I jumped on the hate train. Your articles in particular are always appreciated.

        • RICH

          Amen Nathaniel ! ! !

    • Hey man, I’m going to email the editors about both this and the other double post that got posted, the AR vs AK post by Nathan. I’ve personally doubled posted before, and Phil has taken it down, because as a writer, I will admit, it is hard to keep track of every single news item, especially when some news items travel faster in certain circles. Personally let me know if it happens again, and I will send them an email about it.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Thats cool, im not trying to make a big deal about it.

        Just noticing. Its not the end of the world or anything.

  • Vizzini

    If you, for some unfathomable reason, want a .38 derringer, just get a regular frickin’ .38 derringer. It’s not like such a thing is difficult to hide in a pocket or boot, or whereever.

    • gunsandrockets

      Very true. However, I like the folding grip and integrated laser.

      Of course I believe the NAA mini-revolver is available with a folding grip and I think some company makes a tiny replacement cylinder pin with built in laser. So there’s that.

      • Sulaco

        Actually they make a replacement grip that posts the emitter above the top right of the cylinder and on switch infront of the grip like a reversed grip safety. Have two and only cost around 100. Ebay sells tons.

  • Vhyrus

    This gun is specifically for the skinny jean hipster crowd that doesn’t have room in their tourniquet tight pants to fit a gat.

    Unfortunately for the makers of this pistol, skinny jean hipster don’t carry guns.

    • Jack Morris

      This “skinny jean hipster” carries. I buy a size up, and IWB carry.
      I have found millennials are surprisingly pro-gun; or at the very least, they aren’t anti-gun.

      • Vhyrus

        millennial != hipster

        • DIR911911 .


    • USMC03Vet

      For all those secret squirrel operators operating operationally, but when simply level 1 conceal carry isn’t good enough. They need double secret concealment so even if they do draw their weapon in the open it’s still disguised until they transform it into a functioning firearm to shoot 2 bullets.

      • LCON

        It will find a niche, after all It’s been done before, the KGB kiss of death, the early 2000’s had .22 Nokias, cain guns. and more.

    • Edeco

      Gun Culture 2.0


    So how is this not going to be classified as an AOW? Looks pretty “disguised” to me.

    • The grip dropping down makes it look enough like a gun to keep it out of the AOW category. It is much like the pen gun that folded in the middle and had a trigger that popped out that was ruled not an AOW item.

      • ZEBRA-wit-RABIES

        Tru dat Mongo! You the same Mongo from Silencer Talk Forum?

  • Andy Leach

    I have actually money bet that it’s never gonna make it to market, and I’m confident in my stance.

  • Cal S.

    The argument will be settled when it comes out with an MSRP around $500…

  • Roy G Bunting

    Possibly the perfect open carry gun.

  • RICH

    This is a cute toy but I believe this is something that will eventually get a LEO killed ! ! Bad idea, IMHO ! !

    • Cal S.

      As opposed to any other gun that will “Get a LEO killed”? Thugs aren’t going to buy a weapon like this, they’d get laughed out of their gang. They want something that they can flash in someone’s face and intimidate them, not some cool gizmo that looks really out of place…

      • Bear The Grizzly

        Thugs aren’t likely to buy any weapon and if they do it’s going to be some dirt cheap junker someone bought a state over at a pawn shop to flip for a few bucks. I have seen enough evidence to suggest cost factors much greater into the criminals weapon of choice than everything else.

      • jiminnc

        Yeah, all criminals are just like on the tee-vee.

    • Suppressed

      I think autocorrect changed it to “get an LEO killed” instead of “make law enforcement feel even more justified in shooting people with their phones in their hands, and as an added benefit, make it so they don’t have to carry a drop gun anymore because they can just put the dead guy’s phone by him instead”.

      Damn autocorrect.

      • Matt F.

        So much this…..

      • Anomanom

        Yeah, that’s pretty much exactly what i was thinking. Now if you start recording a police confrontation, instead of getting roughed up, you get shot.
        Officer: I thought he had one of those cell phone guns.
        Lawyer: Sir, this is obviously an iphone. It has a big apple on it.
        Officer: In the heat of the moment i couldn’t tell.
        Judge: Case dismissed!

    • gunsandrockets

      I think too many people are focusing on belt carry as opposed to pocket carry.

    • How is this any worse than a Micro-Derringer or a Kel-Tec in one of those wallet holsters?

  • Spencer Ivey

    My question is, if I already carry my real cell phone on my hip, where do I put this one? The only reason I would carry a gun like this is in a place where I wasn’t technically supposed to be carrying. But even in those places my cell phone still goes with me (as does my ccw).

    • Akimbo phones?

      • Audie Bakerson

        Sadly that is a very real thing. You have the sane people who have a work provided phone for work use only, but no shortage of plain loonies.

        • I live terribly backwoods in WV. I have a company pager Nd cell phone, as well as my private basicphone. Crises centers be like *buzz double ring ring*

        • Added pistol for authenticity.

  • SpartacusKhan

    I can’t wait till they get sued by apple for violating their patent on curved rectangular shapes…

  • Harrison Jones

    This gun appeals to the same crowd that carries the NAA mini revolvers. I probably wouldn’t carry one, but I would buy one as a novelty same as the NAA mini.

    No one can argue that if this is well made it won’t be a cool conversation piece. Might even carry it once a year for the hell or it.

  • Sulaco

    Wasn’t there an article about this very pistol last month here?

  • Will


  • Jacque Mehoff

    when it comes to guns…anything new is cool! from 5′ anything that shoots is functional….

  • Core

    I like it.

    • maodeedee

      I’d like it if it were chambered in 9mm or at the very least 9mm MAK. If I wanted a 380, I’d just get a Ruger LCP and carry it in my pocket.

  • Jack 250

    In San Antonio, Tx. a cop killed a perp with 2 felony warrants when he pulled a cell phone.1 mo. or so back. Baaaaaaaaaad idea.

  • CavScout

    Woot, I’m in Monticello, MN.
    Why the hell are people so surprised and wow’ed about this? On both sides. Cane guns, watches, belt buckles, etc. Guns have been built in to everything already. Oh, and now cell phone. HUGE DEAL!!! Because everyone is a phone zombie these days.

  • Audie Bakerson

    Forget guns, hollowed out electronics filled with explosives are as old a concept as electronics a man could carry. There’s a reason airports make you turn on electronics at security checkpoints.