Legacy Now Shipping 6.5 Grendel Mini Action Rifles

Howa Mini Action

Legacy Sports International announced the company was now shipping the new Howa Mini Action rifles chambered in 6.5 Grendel. The new guns use the company’s mini action – a bolt action that is roughly 12% shorter than traditional short action bolts.

The new guns are the first bolt action production guns to ever be chambered in 6.5 Grendel according to Legacy Sports International. These rifles will be available with barrels of 20″ and 22″, and the barrels will have three different contour options available to order (20″ light, 20″ heavy or 22″ heavy.) The overall length of these rifles is either 39.5″ or 41.5″ depending on the barrel length. With a 20″ light barrel and no scope, the gun weighs 5.7 pounds.

Legacy is offering the guns without a scope, or as a package with a Nikko Stirling Panamax 3-9×40 scope. Also, the Hogue stock options will be black, OD green, MultiCam and Kryptek Highlander. The detachable magazine holds 10 rounds of ammunition. The suggested retail price of these guns is $608 – $855 depending on the configuration.

The Mini Action was added to the Howa line at the 2015 SHOT Show. In the fall of 2015, the company expanded the caliber offerings to include .222 Rem. Howa has made an effort to expand the caliber selection in all of its rifle lines, adding cartridges like the 6.5 Creedmoor to its longer action rifles.


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  • Tyler McCommon

    Meh I’ll just wait for the 6.5 Vepr

    • iksnilol

      From personal experience with VEPRs, you better work out while you wait πŸ˜‰

      • Tyler McCommon

        I’m still patiently waiting for Half Life 3. I’ll be fine.

        • iksnilol

          I was refering to the weight.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Hell, I’m getting both. The weight of the VEPR doesn’t put me off, it’ll still weigh less than my Alexander Arms GSR (especially after I dump the VEPR’s stock) and I can shoot the cheap bimetal bullets through it without any guilt. The Howa will make a great first bolt gun for my son when he’s old enough.

          • MAUSERMAN

            Why are you guys waiting? i already got my vepr in 6.5 grendel………..its been in the U.S for sale since late last year.

          • ostiariusalpha

            I’m not an early adopter by inclination, and I’ve had other priorities on where to spend my discretionary income.

          • MAUSERMAN

            Not like Vepr needs anymore proving. Its a VEPR! But yeah i been shooting it sparingly still going through my finally 150 rounds of initial 500 rounds of WOLF 6.5 steel ammo. No ftf or fte issue, eats wolf gold too, not that i was expecting problem with brass. accuracy is pretty much 2 to 2.5 with Iron, will be better with SCOPE once i put a scope on it.

        • DW

          If you work out while waiting for HL3 you’d be John Cena by then.

  • iksnilol

    Could be lighter with a carbon fiber stock and shorter fluted barrel.

    I like it, though I’ve got no experience with Howa mini action rifles. I do want one in 7.62×39. Hope it isn’t too expensive.

    • ostiariusalpha

      Howa rifles are pretty nice and very practical. I was considering going the CZ 527 route, but this has made up my mind.

      • iksnilol

        Me too.

        I am leaning toward the Howa simply for the 10 round mag.

      • Mark

        Truly, for the cost of re-barreling a 7.62×39 CZ527 carbine, you can keep the carbine and buy the Howa also.

        • ostiariusalpha

          They had an article here on TFB just this spring that CZ-USA was putting out a limited run of naked 7.62×39 bolt-face 527 actions for use in making 6.5 Grendel chambered rifles.

          • MAUSERMAN

            guess i won’t be needing that anymore. LOL howa here i C@@@MMMEEEE………

          • Mark

            I bought one of their 7.62×39 Carbines as a gift with the intention of converting it to 6.5 Grendel… BUT the whole family loves shooting it as is AND I love 25Β’ per round far better than $1.50-ish per round.

          • ostiariusalpha

            If you’re paying a buck-fifty per round for Grendel ammo, then you’re buying it in the wrong place.

          • Mark

            I am not willing to shoot dirty Wolf or steel case in a suppressed custom Krieger barreled rifle. Our clean accuracy load out to 1200 yards is Lapua brass, Lapua 123 gn Scenars, 8208 XBR, CCI primers. The comparable factory load from Alexander Arms retails for $1.45 per round…. scuuuuze me for rounding off the nickel.

          • ostiariusalpha

            You are entirely scuuuuzed. It’s your money, spend it as you please.

          • Mark

            About 20 yrs ago I was next to a friend who blew up his MG42 shooting cheap Egyptian ammo. Right then and there I learned a lesson…. on his “nickel.”

          • iksnilol

            Eh, happened most likely due to wear. MG42s are at the least 70 years old.

            Doubt the Egyptians loaded the ammo so hot it blew it up. Most likely the headspace got worn.

          • Mark

            Maybe so. No matter the cause, it prompted me to caution about cheap ammo in valuable guns.

          • itsmefool

            And that is a good lesson!

          • Tassiebush

            never thought of the Grendel as an economical round but that pricing opens up it’s potential a fair bit especially matched with a reasonably priced rifle.

          • Adam D.

            Are you referring to the Wolf Steel Case?
            Do you use that ammunition?
            What’s the accuracy you get out of it?

            Does the Grendel use a proprietary magazine or standard/modified .223 AR mags like the 300 BLK?
            I don’t know this caliber, but It seems like an interesting option.
            Newer calibers like this aren’t used much here in Erope,
            so getting practical info on them is quite hard.
            As a layman to these “alternate AR calibers” I find 6.8 SPC to be more appealing, but $.35 for a round in 6.5 Grendel certainly sounds nice. FOr an average shooter cost per round is a huge factor.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Yes, the Wolf ammo is what I was referring to, but it’s not smart to shoot it regularly through an expensive match barrel due to increased wear. A better choice would be using a chrome-lined barrel like the 6.5 Grendel AR barrels Palmetto State Armory sometimes has for sale or the VEPR. The Wolf ammo isn’t match ammo, but many shooters can get 1.5-2.5 MOA depending on their particular barrel harmonics.

            The Grendel works best with its own proprietary magazines. It can be used with the standard mags, but it will load in a semi-stagger stack formation instead of a nice, compact double column. The feed lip geometry is less than ideal also, so feeding problems can occur.

            As to what works best for you personally, that depends on what distances you expect to be shooting at. The Grendel is a nearly perfect all ranges cartridge; anywhere from 50-800m, it is highly effective on appropriately sized game animals, and can be used out to over 1000m for target shooting. If you don’t have access to that kind open space, or aren’t really interested in shooting at game over 200m, then another cartridge would be more suitable. The 6.8 SPC is like a muscled up .223/5.56, it has more power than the Grendel at close ranges and a little better magazine capacity.

          • Evaris

            Eh… last time I was at Cabellas around here I think they had some Hornady Grendel for like… $0.50 a round?

          • Mark

            Right… and the Brooklyn Bridge too.

          • Mark

            More typically $1/round, but their brass is not as long lived as the Lapua, seems softer.

        • MAUSERMAN

          HOWA is worth every penny, just got a .308 Howa 1500 “22” inch barrel for $368 shipped.

          • Mark

            Since shooters are generally used to the opposite configuration, I am not clear why Howa decided to place the mag release in front of the magazine on their Grendel.

          • iksnilol

            Didn’t notice that. That is a strange mag release.

            Does anyone make aj extended mag release that goes back to the conventional position?

          • uisconfruzed

            Seems like it could get caught at an inopportune time.

      • Paul White

        Howa’s also putting out 223 and 7.62×39 bolt actions, I think on this platform. I’m sorely tempted. Howa and Savage are two of my favorites for affordable rifles

    • Mike

      +1 for an inexpensive rifle in an inexpensive caliber 7.62×39
      How about 300 Blackout?

      • iksnilol

        I heard Howas are easy to switch barrels on. Shouldn’t be too hard to get a 300 BLK barrel and put it on.

    • Tassiebush

      i had a weatherby vanguard in .223 which was a short action. i had the howa detachable mag kit on it which it think is basically the same as this ones mag except for a longer action. it was reliable and accurate with a pretty nice action. In this mini action version it would have to be good and for it’s price bracket it’d be most pleasing. Oh i should mention a vanguard is a howa with a few slightly different features. same factory though.

      • iksnilol

        It does seem like a good rifle, only the magazine release is off putting. I really like having it on the other side, closer to the trigger guard. That way I use my trigger thumb to release the mag whilst grabbing it at once.

        • ostiariusalpha

          They were probably trying to emphasize magazine control & retention with a design that makes you use the forefinger of your hand as you grasp the mag for removal. Due to the mag’s design, you’d have a hard time developing a standard release for it, but there are some alternate Howa 1500 bottom metals out there that use the AICS mags and the release on the normal side..

          • iksnilol

            Eh, I can live with it if it means avoiding AICS mag prices. πŸ˜›

          • ostiariusalpha

            If it’s a short or standard action length, then you can just buy the AICS PMags; they’re not perfect, but they are affordable.

  • Full Name

    That would be a great little whitetail gun

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Nice price, would be perfect for deer.
    Or the people who put fliers under my wiper blades.

    • Agitator

      Too much gun for those people. You wouldn’t want them to die too quickly, would you?

      • Paul White

        why use a gun? Sock full of pennies.

    • Paul White

      I mean, for deer…I’ll stick the grandaddy, 6.5×55. Which I actually do have in a Howa 1500

      • ostiariusalpha

        6.5×55 is for meese. Thudy-thudy is the old, classic whitetail round.

        • Paul White

          Not in the plains. At least not for me. Going past 150 yards with a 30-30…ugh

          • Goody

            I just bought an old Swede sporter. Seems like it should be a versatile killing stick. Short range, no problem, long range, well it craps on a 308 that’s for sure, small critters, easy with a light fmj. Big critters, 160gr lock base bullet. Plus, should be an excellent deterrent against Russian incursion.

          • Paul White

            yeah. I haven’t tested mine with anything over 140, but if I went for elk I’d see how it fared with 160 grain bullets. If it worked OK with those I’d feel fine bringing it.

            I’d get something heavier for moose or brown bear or bison but other than that….

        • iksnilol

          Don’t forget the bayonet in case they get up close.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Nice

        • Paul White

          It is. Barely more recoil than my AR. With the scope (Ziess, 4-12×44) it weighs around 9.5 lbs so it isn’t ultra light, but it’s still easy to carry, kicks like an anemic mouse, and is fairly accurate (haven’t tested its mechanical limits with match ammo and a bench so I can’t say for sure, but 2.5-3″ groups kneeling with a sling using hunting ammo). It’s an affordable, fairly accurate, soft kicking rifle I could stretch out to 275 yards or so for deer and pronghorn-although I’ve never gone out that far, that’s its zero using th emaximum point blank range technique.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Cool I don’t hunt anymore but I wish I had more time to get out in the country and out of the range.

  • BattleshipGrey

    I’ve decided the 6.5 Grendel will be the next caliber I invest in. I was thinking I’d go with an AR platform though cause I’ve got the itch to build again. But I wouldn’t mind having a bolt action 6.5G as well.

    The price isn’t too bad and I like the concept of a shorter stock.

    • uisconfruzed

      I built one and it is an amazing tack driver.

      • BattleshipGrey

        Very nice. I’m really looking forward to it, but I’ll have to wait for my budget to catch up to my ambition. πŸ™‚

  • MAUSERMAN

    This is what i been waiting for……..7 years since i got into grendel.

  • StickShift

    Perhaps this will light a fire under CZ’s ass to expand the 527 lineup with a factory 6.5 Grendel or expanded 7.62×39 offerings.

    • Frank

      CZ 527 that takes AK mags when

  • Anonymoose

    I was hoping for a threaded barrel .300 Blackout version first, but this is great too. Any chance they’ll make a 7.62×39 version to compete with the CZ527?

    • iksnilol

      They already make a 7.62×39 and 5.56 version πŸ˜€

  • Devil_Doc

    Why?

    • maodeedee

      A 6,5 is superior to a 6mm (243) because it propels a heavier bullet but recoil isn’t much different between a 243 and a 6.5 Creedmoor. And with the 6.5 Grendel recoil would be even less than a 243 making the the perfect youth rifle. The 6.5 Grendel has better downrange ballistics than the 6.8 Remington as well. This size rifle couldn’t accommodate a 243 anyway, and the fact that it'[s a shorter lighter rifle than most is what makes it nice.

      The 6.5 Creedmoor is an even a better youth rifle in the next larger size gun than a 243 because of the 129 or 140 grain bullet’s superior downrange ballistics due to the projectile’s better sectional density and ballistic coefficients.

  • El Duderino

    A 20″ short stock model would be an ideal youth rifle. I’d take one over a .243 any day.

  • John Daniels

    The barrels should be threaded. They missed an opportunity, IMO.

  • Wynter

    That’s actually a pretty sweet rig. After getting my 6.5 Grendel a few years ago I found out quick what an amazing cartridge it is. I truly believe that if more gun people got trigger time on a quality 6.5 Grendel/.264LBC the calibers popularity would skyrocket. It’s definitely one of those “to know it is to love it” things in life. Give it a try, it’ll be difficult to walk away from though lol. This bolt action just screams “Worlds Best Deer Hunting Rifle”! Exaggerating of course but a fantastic hunting rig for youngsters all the way up to your crusty judgmental grandpa-in-law who hates everything new (he’ll love it too). I wouldn’t trade my AR Grendel for one but I’d love to have one to go with it.