G&A TV Blackhawk Serpa Promo Inadvertently Breaks Rule 3

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Everyone makes mistakes, and everyone who uses guns for long enough will make a mistake or two. Sometimes, though, they make those mistakes at the most cringe-inducing times (such as this famous incident from 2004 involving a DEA agent). Unfortunately, gunsmith and firearms instructor Patrick Sweeney had a brush with firearms unsafety while filming a recent segment for Guns & Ammo TV on the Blackhawk! Serpa holster, see below at 2:23:

Uploader nickdrak isolated this segment in another video, embedded below:

We can see that Mr. Sweeney depresses the button on the Blackhawk! Serpa holster, pulls his Walther PPQ free from the plastic, and then the pressure and momentum of his trigger finger carries it onward into the weapon’s triggerguard just millimeters away from the trigger itself. We can tell that he has tried to train out this behavior because his trigger finger subsequently pulls back, out of the trigger guard, in preparation for raising the gun to the firing position. Patrick likely believed that he had successfully trained himself out of this behavior, but in a twist of irony it was the slow motion footage filmed for the Blackhawk! promo segment that revealed that not to be the case!

If you are going to use Blackhawk! Serpa holsters, it is absolutely critical that you slow down on the draw and ensure that your trigger is free and moving away from the guard before the trigger of the pistol is exposed.

Stay safe, folks!



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Scott Tuttle

    that looks like more than just pressure from pressing the release button

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Yep. “Holster ride” it’s no different than the same poor form with any holster.

      Serpas are stupid. But this guy in the video would likely do the same thing with other holsters.

      Between step1 and step2 of the draw, they slide their index along the holster upwards. Sherpa encourages this with their button that needs depressing right there, but it’s not uncommon to see other people do it.

      • Suppressed

        I didn’t know you were back, welcome. Bet you were biting your tongue when this was posted, trying to hard to keep some form of the word “hypocrisy” off the keyboard.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          I don’t know what you mean at all 😉

  • Bill

    “If you are going to use Blackhawk! Serpa holsters, it is absolutely critical that you” find the nearest open fire and melt it into a blob of plastic, so there is no chance someone else could trip over this abomination of a “holster!” It needs to suspend itself like Jeb!

    (Analyst’s Note: the reference to Jeb Bush was not intended to interject politics, just an oblique reference to the abuse of exclamation points!)

  • M.M.D.C.

    Serpa holsters are a blast.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Walk it off, Jethro. Walk it off.

    • Xeno Da Morph

      Haha you beat me to it. Hahahaha.

    • Xeno Da Morph

      • jcitizen

        Serpa derpa dudes! 3:)

    • stpguns

      In that particular instance if I’m not mistaken, he was using an Uncle Mike’s holster, not a Serpa.

      • M.M.D.C.

        It’s humor, not history.

        • stpguns

          Sorry, just being technical =P

      • mitori

        Tex Grebner was using a 1911 in a Serpa in that video.

    • Edeco

      I commend Tex Grebner: it was good of him to post that despite broadcasting himself looking less dignified than a boston terrier.

      • Markbo

        Derek Grebner is a buffoon. And I hate the self proclaimed “Tex” nickname. Lord why couldnt he be born in Maryland!?

        • Edeco

          Tex has heart, and did what was best for the cause, by posting the video of himself and admitting fault. I wouldn’t have done that, I’d be thinking “Hey I’m having personal medical business, no new video this week”. I’m not sure the state of Texas, aka California Junior, deserves to have him call himself “Tex”.

  • William Johnson

    The design is flawed on enough levels that my team declined the issued ones and purchased our own Safariland holsters.

  • Dave

    Police are mightily concerned that an officer could be disarmed and shot with his own service pistol. This creates a new marketing niche. Soon, every LEO has to have a holster retained by some sort of mechanism other than, say, a snap around the frame. In order to draw, the trigger finger has to manipulate the mechanism, which ensures that as the pistol comes out on the draw stroke, the tension in the trigger-finger results in it entering the trigger guard. Many NDs result as in MMDC’s video below. Why does everyone “need” a retention holster just like the cops have? Marketing and advertising.

    The same happens in bicycling. Guys who could afford to lose a few pounds spend exorbitant amounts of cash on über-light bicycles and all sorts of unsightly skin-tight road cycling togs and step-in shoes that fuse their feet to the pedals and vamp around as if they are on the Tour de France. Everyone needs a hobby, certainly. But not every specialized piece of gear is for everyone.

    • hking

      Or just use a Safariland ALS holster, have level 3 retention, and not worry about shooting yourself in the leg on a draw or having someone else gain control of your weapon.

    • Bill

      The user is the ultimate retention device. LE went way overboard with retention holsters that require a graduate degree to operate and result in draw strokes that can be timed with a sundial. And then they’ll mount their Level 47 retention holster on their gun belt in such a way that other duty equipment gets in the way and makes an efficient draw impossible.

      I’m exactly like that when it comes to bikes: the more I spend the “better” a cyclist I’ll be. Or so I tell myself.

  • hking

    The SERPA is a flawed design, with countless incidents and injuries to display why, with countless agencies and academies banning their use and issue. The defenders of this mall ninja junk are just mad that their $25 plastic piece of crap holster was a waste of money. They all say “Oh I used one for 5 years and didnt shoot myself”, and its the same exact thing all the guys that DID shoot themselves were thinking seconds before.

    • Bill

      IIRC, The Air Force banned them while the Marine Corps adopted them. They are banned at most if not all federal agencies.

      • Aaron E

        The Army and Navy use Serpas as well. It is interesting that the military branches have no problem approving and issuing the Serpa in large numbers, but some (not all) Federal law enforcement agencies have abandoned them.

        I think that makes the case for “proper instruction = proper use” pretty clear. If the military can take a wide range of individuals with diverse backgrounds and train them to be proficient with the Serpa holsters, then the Federal agencies should be able to do the same.

        There are many State and local police agencies using Serpa holsters and are satisfied with their retention and features. There are also many agencies that use Safariland, or others.

        Proper training = Proper use

        Blackhaw Serpa shouldn’t be “banned” and they are not trash. If an agency or individual wants to carry one then train appropriately on their retention features. If you want another brand of holster – do the same.

        • Bill

          I do not know what defines “proficiency” in the use of the holster in the military, i.e. whether or not those issued pistols are trained in drawing from the holster as extensively as LEOs are. I’ve gotten the impression that for most in the military a pistol holster is essentially a container for hauling the gun around, whereas in LE or personal defense it’s essentially the launching platform for the rapid, safe and efficient firing of the pistol, or covering of a target.

          There are also physiological and neurological issues that can only be overcome with intensive training: all the fingers in the human hand want to grip something at the same time. Training a shooter to operate their trigger finger independently of the rest while those fingers are maintaining a proper and consistent grip on the pistol is arguably the most difficult thing to do in developing shooter skill. Bottom line is that the SERPA forces the user to apply pressure with their trigger finger directly in the area of the trigger, that if not released at EXACTLY the right time can and does result in the trigger finger entering the trigger guard as the pistol is drawn. Sure, we could train that out, in a couple weeks with the classic 10,000 correct repetitions, but that isn’t realistic, particularly since the SERPA has those other environmental issues and doesn’t offer a performance benefit over other designs.

          Unfortunately, there is no quantitative database of NDs that could be analyzed, but the anecdotal, qualitative evidence strongly suggests that users with SERPA holsters have a higher rate of draw-related NDs. I hate this kind of “everyone knows that” position, but its the best we have.

          The SERPA sells the illusion of security at a price point that many users will accept, versus $100 to $200 up for a Safariland or other high-end conventional holster.

          • DaveGinOly

            “Bottom line is that the SERPA forces the user to apply pressure with their trigger finger directly in the area of the trigger, that if not released at EXACTLY the right time can and does result in the trigger finger entering the trigger guard as the pistol is drawn.”

            You mustn’t have ever actually used a Serpa holster, because your statement is exactly wrong. When drawing from a Serpa you do not release the pressure applied to the button. The shooter keeps the pressure on the finger, dragging it along the side of the holster. There’s even a channel on the holster in which the trigger finger can smoothly ride as the gun is drawn (see photo #5 in the illustration). This keeps the trigger finger exactly where it belongs.

            See photos 1-4 in series below. #4 shows where the finger ends up if it is not moved during the draw. No need to lift the finger after activating the release. In fact, that’s exactly the wrong thing to do because it allows the finger to go where it doesn’t belong. Used properly, a Serpa holster is arguably safer than any other because it gives your trigger finger something to do and somewhere to go – and stay – besides the trigger.

          • Bill

            If it works for you, fine.

          • Gunner4guy

            My agency(which I just retired from) uses Safariland Level 3 belt and thigh holsters, especially our SRT teams. However, even after 6 yrs of use there are still ND problems and the switch is being made to the Blackhawk! SERPA Level 3 holster. I’d say ditching close to 3500+ holsters in favor of the Blackhawk! is pretty telling – a purchase like that is researched closely to avoid officer safety problems and… if nothing else to avoid adverse comments.

          • Bill

            Get back to us in 5 years and report if the ND rate decreased, stayed the same, or increased.

          • CavScout

            Please don’t pretend that most agency or department personnel shoot very much. They don’t. No one would ever want a former mil weapon, but LE trade-ins are notorious for very low round counts.

          • Bill

            Being the agency’s firearms training officer and responsible for inservice training and qualifying all sworn personnel, and for several other neighboring, smaller agencies, I’m well aware of just how little the average officer shoots. Then again, how often does every sworn member of the military qualify with a handgun, and for how many rounds? Ruling out the specops and LE components, it’s not often and very few.

        • valorius

          The military generally advocates condition 3 carry, making the flawed serpa design less of an issue.

    • Cal S.

      Then what’s a good alternative retention holster?

      • NCO

        Safariland 7TS or any ALS hosted from them.

      • stpguns

        Safariland ALS/SLS, G-code – many friction friction based retention holsters also work well.

      • Bill

        The classic thumb-break still works, assuming a modicum of training in weapons retention. I prefer simple holsters, so that training time and assets are spent focusing on the gun, and not the holster.

        You also need to consider the role of the holster. Nearly all my off-duty/plainclothes holsters are open-topped, with no mechanical retention devices other than maybe a tension screw. Obviously, that wouldn’t be prudent for a field or duty holster, those have thumb-breaks or some other type of strap.

    • Aaron E

      There is not the mass exodus on Serpas from law enforcement and academies that you claim, though I concur there have been some big names that have moved away from Serpas. Serpas still remain popular and are widely used in law enforcement and several military forces including our own.

      Like any retention holster, there should be a lengthy training period on the function, retention devices, belt placement, and practice with safe guns (unloaded, or plastic/metal counter parts).

      I’ve used a variety of holsters, including the Serpa Level III that I now carry on duty (for over 10 years now). I’m not saying Serpa is the best, but with proper training it is absolutely worthy of use. I like Safariland products very much too, and have carried those on duty as well. I’m faster with a Serpa without doubt, so I’m happy to use it on duty.

    • DaveGinOly

      How often do you blame the holster when it’s not a Serpa? Don’t shooters have NDs when using other types of holsters? Yes, they do. Only then because the holster doesn’t operate like a Serpa, there’s nothing to blame but the shooter. Because the Serpa has a mechanism that must be operated to draw the gun, it presents a convenient excuse for a lack of trigger-finger discipline and sufficient training. (The training is to overcome the lack of trigger-finger discipline – not training to use the holster safely. All holsters are used safely; almost all holsters – with few exceptions – cover the trigger guard. And this is to defend against user error. It’s what happens when the gun comes out – no holster in the world will keep a trigger finger off the trigger once the trigger guard is clear of the holster. Watch that video again and you’ll see Sweeney move his finger after hitting the release button. If he had left it where it was in order to hit the release, it would have ended up exactly where it belongs – alongside the frame just below the slide.)

    • shooter2009

      Anyone can be trained to safely keep their finger off the trigger when drawing from any retention device, including the SERPA.

      • valorius

        except the guy in the video, apparently.

  • Pete Sheppard

    Oopsie… Takeaway, it can happen even to the most skilled, so DON’T let up on continual safety training. It even paid off in this instance, because he automatically corrected as soon as it happened.

  • Mmmtacos

    And here I was just yesterday bemoaning the detractors of the SERPA. I have used one before and never had this problem.

    At least I advocated for the Safariland ALS over SERPA in the end however… booger hooks on bang switches aside I think they’re better holster any day of the week with a better retention system.

    • valorius

      In my real life experience, i have found every person that uses that phrase to be a moron.

      • Mmmtacos

        What phrase? Those saying ALS is superior over Serpa? Judging by your other comments that’s not what you meant. Sorry if you can’t understand my comment, I thought it was straight forward enough for anyone.

        Regardless, the opinion of someone who would sooner insult than actually refute is meaningless to me. Maybe you should practice keyboard discipline as well and keep your fingers off the keys; this site would be better off for it.

        • valorius

          booger hook/bang switch.

  • Not only is there the typically SERPA finger in the trigger guard, but look at how much that holster moves on the belt.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      That’s why you don’t use a loose and cheap 1.5″ belt with 2″ loops.

  • Scott Tuttle

    I have a serpa and I really dont see how you could accidentally pull the trigger unless thats just something you’re prone to do anyways. when the gun comes out of the holster your finger is straight. you can even see it in that video, finger comes off the holster straight and then he goes for the trigger.

    • I see it as similar to the Kel-Tec KSG. If you’re using it slowly, you likely won’t have a problem, but the forces involved are wrong from a safety perspective; in the case of the KSG it’s the forward movement of your hand that gives it momentum to carry it past the short muzzle, and with the Serpa it’s the pressure of your finger that gives it momentum to carry it into the triggerguard (which can lead to an AD as you are pulling your hand up against the weight of the gun pulling down). The slowmo of Patrick in the video above is an excellent example of how when using either of these things quickly, it is difficult to reverse those forces in time to avoid an unsafe situation.

      Now, there are other guns that have become very popular that have similar quirks, like for example the Colt SAA.

      • dltaylor51

        I had a friend that used to quick draw his Ruger single six with the hammer back for added speed and he was really fast untill one day he shot himself in the leg.

    • Aaron E

      You’re right Scott! My police department with around 140 officers has used Serpa holsters for over 10 years with no problems – NONE! We have some really talented shooters, and we have those who need the couple of hours of practice before the “qual” to ensure they pass. No negligent discharges at all.

      It is a training, and practice issue. If you train yourself to put your finger into the trigger guard and on the trigger you will do that. If you train yourself to keep your finger straight, it naturally locates itself on the frame of the pistol – where the vast majority of qualified firearms instructors recommend when holding a pistol in a ready condition.

      • valorius

        Why would you use such cheap pieces of crap though? I’ve seen videos of Serpas literally ripped off a gun belt.

    • valorius

      Momentum

      • Scott Tuttle

        you must have a heavy finger. really, your finger is pointing straight when the gun comes out.

        • valorius

          Under the stress of a life and death gunfight, we all do. Even you.

  • Sianmink

    I always figured the best design for a retention holster was one pretty much the opposite of a Serpa, where you jam your finger into the top of a mechanism and lever it out to draw.

  • Kristoff

    Is firearm news really this slow?

  • Bill

    The SERPA is also prone to environmental issues: if gunk gets in the mechanism they’ll lock up. There have also been instances when sleet or snow causes the thing to freeze.

  • Cal S.

    I’ve drawn in practice from my serpa with no issues. You gotta have some sort of retention on an open-carry holster.

  • Don Ward

    Oh sure, blame the holster when the problem is striker fired semiautomatics without a safety.

    Amirite guys?

    High five!

    • valorius

      I agree, actually.

  • Roy G Bunting

    The Blade-tech ThumbDrive holsters would seem to be a good alternative in the SERPA price range. Nothing wrong with the G-Code or ALS, But IIRC they are significantly more expensive.

    The trigger finger push is just a bad idea.

  • Basil Sever Moulds

    Ahahaa

  • mk18

    Serpa? Move along, nothing to see here folks….

  • Chris Shoffner

    I’ll bet dollars to donuts that if you video taped his last 1000
    presentations from a holster (ANY holster), you’d see he does this more
    often than not. He has an “operator error” problem, not a holster
    problem.

    • valorius

      its a problem induced by the holster.

  • James Maddox

    What people fail to realize is that even when one has great trigger habits, combat stress reduces motor skills. When someone is drawing under stress, they will almost always apply a great deal more pressure to the trigger release mechanism than with range training. This can and has for many people resulted in the finger sliding into and depressing the trigger. To test this, i bought this holster and used a laserlyte cartridge in an M&P. If i applied a lot of force to the release mechanism even while intentionally trying to keep my finger in line with the barrel, my finger slid into and depressed the trigger and flashed the laser onto my thigh 3 out of the 10 times tested.

    • That’s a bingo! Is that how you say it? “That’s a bingo”?

  • Bill

    I laughed. I cried. I peed in hysterics.

  • uisconfruzed

    I’ll pass on that design.

  • dltaylor51

    I own several Serpa holsters and i cant for the life of me figure out how this holster pulls the trigger while its being drawn,cant happen,only the trigger finger can do that.If you’re going to play quick draw McGraw keep your finger out of the trigger guard untill your gun is clear of your body.If i were stupid enough to shoot myself in the leg i sure as hell wouldn’t blame a holster for my stupidity.If you want to quick draw your loaded gun with hammer back and safety off be my guest but you only have you to blame if you shoot yourself.

  • durabo

    Video producers need editors to detect these potentially deadly goofs.

  • DaveGinOly

    Bob Owens over at Bearing Arms blamed the holster. Others have also blamed Serpa holsters. I own a Serpa, and don’t have a problem with it. First, the release button is offset from the trigger and trigger guard, so if you keep your trigger finger straight (as it should be when it activates the release), it will not go to the trigger – it will end up along the frame just below the slide, exactly where it’s supposed to be. Second, for the trigger finger to go to the trigger takes a conscious or accidental movement of the finger by the shooter. No holster in the world will keep your finger off the trigger once the handgun has cleared it.

    Contrary to the claims of its detractors, Serpa holsters should be safer than other holsters, because they require the shooter to straighten the finger and place it parallel to where it belongs along the frame in order to activate the release. If the shooter doesn’t move his finger during the draw, that’s exactly where it will end up. No other holster prompts the proper positioning of the trigger finger before the draw as does the Serpa and its clones. If you can’t keep your finger still when drawing from a Serpa (you press the release with the extended finger and leave it there, dragging it along the outside of the holster during the draw), you almost certainly don’t have the discipline to keep your finger from the trigger when drawing from a holster that doesn’t prompt you to position your finger correctly before the gun even comes out of the holster.

    • LetsTryLibertyAgain

      You’ve posted essentially the same pro-Serpa reply to several comments. Have you considered that the Serpa design intent was as you suggested, but the design is flawed from a learning theory perspective? Why would Blackhawk’s own paid professional firearms instructor poke his finger into the trigger guard on a nationally televised Serpa holster promotional video when drawing from a Serpa holster? Most people seem to agree that this is a training problem, but can we be more specific? What training problem could cause a professional firearms instructor and Blackhawk spokesperson to put his booger hook so close to the bang switch on national TV? Maybe the problem is that shooters should be trained to keep their trigger fingers straight and immobile during the draw, and the Serpa holster requires the trigger finger to press a release button on the holster, and while that may seem to be a good idea from a mechanical perspective, given that the release is away from the trigger, this is bad from a training perspective when the message needs to be, “Keep the finger straight and immobile while drawing.” Once that trigger finger is required to start pressing things, bad stuff can happen.

      For the record, I think police tasers should NOT resemble pistols and should NOT have triggers that are activated the same as a pistol. A police Taser should probably be a rectangular box with a thumb activation button on top. Watch the Bay Area Rapid Transit shooting video if you want to see a law enforcement officer draw a Taser that was actually a pistol, carefully aim it at the back of a handcuffed individual lying face down on the concrete and deliberately shoot him in the back. It’s safe to assume he’s not a cold blooded murderer. If not, he must have thought he was Tasering the guy instead of killing him, even though he drew his pistol from his right side instead of cross drawing his Taser from his left side. When the adrenaline flows, the brain shuts down. That’s why I don’t think it’s a good idea to try to train people to press buttons with their trigger finger to initiate the draw. That finger is going to want to keep pressing things, as we saw in Serpa’s own promo video.

      I don’t see how Blackhawk (or anyone else) can claim the Serpa holster all but forces safe practices when their own promo video stands in stark denial of that claim. If Blackhawk’s professional firearms instructor can’t draw safely in their promo video, I don’t see how they can put the blame on any customer who has experienced a negligent discharge.

      • valorius

        Exactly.

  • GetFactsBeforeFormingOpinions

    I guess I’m just tired of seeing “experts” on the youtube interwebs telling everyone what’s best, or worse, degrading equipment for their own excuse. Check out this guy’s credentials – lets see, he’s a competitive shooter (and so is anyone who has ever shot a “tournament”), he’s a gunsmith (and so is anyone that has ever mounted a scope?), and an instructor (what kind of instructor?). So, he has less qualifications than I do…. I’m not saying Serpas are bad. I own a few, but they stick out too far for concealed carry. I use them for hunting and just walking around the woods kind of stuff. I just can’t see how anyone could possibly get their finger IN the trigger guard. I just went out and tried it with a revolver, a Glock, and a 1911. No way does your finger just “slip” inside the trigger guard, and no way with an XD trigger safety could you -pull- the trigger in this manner. Slipping it in ain’t pulling it (or so she said). Just another “expert” trying to show everyone how his screw-up was the fault of the gear, not the person. Take a little responsibility, people!!!!

  • shooter2009

    The holster is not unsafe; it seems most of the people using them are, however.

    The holster is well-designed and when used properly, is inherently safe.

    It’s the SHOOTER who has control over his/her finger after engaging the release. The holster is doing absolutely nothing to contribute to anything unsafe.

    It just seems to me that many shooters using the holster are lazy, undisciplined and untrained. Agencies, rather than spending the money to train their shooters properly and demand excellence, are trying to shortcut poor training by “banning” the holster.

    This reminds me of when NYPD started issuing Glocks. There were many many incidents of negligent discharges. What was their answer? Not better or proper training of their officers….no. They went to Glock and asked them to install triggers that were HARDER TO PULL, the thinking being that it was just accepted their officers would go ahead and put their fingers on the trigger when it was improper to do so…but, since it was harder to pull the trigger, maybe they’d realize the error of their ways and stop pulling the trigger before they shot themselves, or someone else, negligently.

    No, the answer to the SERPA problem lies with the shooter…not the holster.

    • LetsTryLibertyAgain

      “It just seems to me that many shooters using the holster are lazy, undisciplined and untrained.”

      Are you referring to the professional firearms instructor, hired by Blackhawk and wearing a Blackhawk logo shirt, demonstrating the use of the Serpa holster on a nationally televised firearms show? THAT guy is lazy, undisciplined and untrained?

      When Blackhawk’s own marketing promo demonstrates an unsafe practice, I think it’s reasonable to question the design. I know the design intent is to force the shooter to have his finger away from the trigger when drawing the weapon, and maybe even to keep the trigger finger busy by giving it something else to do, but it looks like the force needed to unlock the holster can result in the trigger finger sliding into the trigger housing during the draw, or training shooters to be doing something with their trigger finger when drawing is the wrong thing to do because the training should focus on the trigger finger NOT doing anything during the draw.

      • shooter2009

        I was stunned that this professional did it. But, that doesn’t mean the design is at fault.

        Keep the booger picker off the damn trigger…no matter how you get it ready for action, whether its from the pocket, a holster, tucked into your waistband, or picked up from the bedside table.

        If that’s too hard, sell the gun before you hurt yourself, or someone else.

        • valorius

          the design is flawed.

    • valorius

      That’s a cop out, it’s a design that is unforgiving of errors.

      Like an old Porsche 911 turbo. A very fast car that WOULD absolutely make you pay if you made a slight mistake that a lot of other very fast cars would forgive.

  • jcitizen

    I remember WAY back in police training, I can’t remember if ti was the Utah or Cooper course, where we were supposed to draw and shoot the revolver( this was when many LEOs had SOP restricted to revolvers) as soon as it cleared the holster – sometimes into the ground, and walk the rounds up to the target. This was theoretically to get the maximum jump on the perp so as to shoot low, and hope it bounced into the crook before he could get the jump on you. I didn’t like it, but did okay. Fortunately the rake on my Safari rig was such that the barrel was already toward the target when I cleared the holster, so I usually hit the target on the first shot, although usually in the groin! OUCH! The paper target, not mine! Now I had my finger on the trigger just as it cleared the holster, and that is why I didn’t like it, but the for some reason snapping the button to release the pistol with my thumb cause my index finger to straighten out enough, that I figured I had a slim margin of safety there. Sheesh! I hadn’t thought about this in over 30 years!

    • shooter2009

      Official NRA doctrine says you MAY start shooting (by putting your finger on the trigger) as soon as Step 3 (rotate) is accomplished, and keep firing as you bring the gun to the middle of the chest and extend.

      Certainly, that is part of the reason for the “lock n’ rock” method as well; start firing after the rotate.

      But, modern instruction tenets don’t advocate intentionally putting bullets anywhere but center mass.

      • jcitizen

        It certainly seems silly now, but for a kid going into police science I was more accepting of weird ideas. It didn’t take me long to realize I don’t even want to draw my weapon unless I’m ready to shoot. I was able to draw and empty my six rounds in less than 2 seconds, and hit the K zone, back then. so having my hand on the grip with the snap loose was good enough. If the situation changed, I simply re snapped the holster and moved on.

  • bananaboat

    “It’s the shooter’s fault when you go too fast on your Serpa…Finger slipped in”…. And most shooters just accept it.. .blamed Tex, but never the holster!
    This will not happen with my Bladetech even or not I go too fast beyond my limit.
    It keeps me peace of mind to draw faster and faster.

  • valorius

    it wouldve been more funny if he shot himself in the weak hand he thrust into the line of fire in his ‘training drill’.