[SHOT 2016] Clipdraw

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Love the concept or hate the concept, Clipdraw is now offering their Belt Clip for the Smith and Wesson Shield, Glock 42, Glock 43, Ruger LCP and Springfield XDS. The Clipdraw Belt Clip works by securing a metal clip to the pistol. Since the metal clip indexes along the slide or receiver, the pistol can be carried inside the waist band, concealed, without the need for a holster.

The Clipdraw works by attaching to the slide or to the receiver of a pistol. A Clipdraw equipped pistol is typically carried inside the waist band.

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Clipdraw equipped midsize Glock. I am not sure I would use this product in conjunction with a fancy belt and dress slacks!

Clipdraw was started in 1995 by Skyline Tool Works. They offer the Clipdraw for a number of common pistol platforms. I have personally never used the product, so I cannot comment on its use, safety or utility. I like the concept and have several friends who have been in gunfights that use it, or have used a Clipdraw. The representatives at the Clipdraw booth were extremely friendly.

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New Products from Clipdraw. Clipdraw for Springfield XDS and Smith and Wesson Shield.

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New Products from Clipdraw. Clipdraw for Glock 42 and the Glock 43.

What do you think about this product? Experience? Accidental discharges? Is it hard on clothing? Does the pistol move? Is it comfortable? I would love to hear your opinion. Please be respectful in the comments.



Thomas Gomez

Thomas Gomez currently resides in the mountains of central New Mexico. He has an M.B.A, an Ar-15/M16/M4 armorer certification from Specialized Armament Warehouse as well as a Glock armorer certification. Aside from writing for The Firearm Blog he works as a Clinical Analyst for a large Hospital. He spends his free time farming, ranching, hiking, fly-fishing and hunting in the beautiful forests and prairies of New Mexico. He can be reached at LOADTHATBIPOD@gmail.com


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  • Ben Pottinger

    Saw an add for one of these for a G43. I could see maybe carrying this with a 1911 or something with an external safety, but a clip draw on a glock seems like a terrible idea.

    • thedonn007

      Even then, can you imagine that safety poking into your side all day as you carry your sidearm

      • KestrelBike

        Or the safety disengaging after bending over or squirming in a car or theater seat? Too much Yikes potential.

        • Ben Pottinger

          I was about to say the same thing. You’re being all modern and appendix carrying you’re fancy 1911 and it gets its safety flipped and you become the ” case of the day” for the doctors at the ER (or the morgue) when the 1911 removes an “apendage”!!

          I used to carry a keltec PF9 in the pocket without a holster because the trigger was so long and heavy it just wasn’t going to go off outside of purposely pulling the trigger. When I upgraded to a Glock 43 I immediately got a pocket holster. I couldn’t imagine carrying a glock with an uncovered trigger.

          • George Figueroa

            I have been using the clip in all my guns. too many to mention,except glock ,for more thatn 11 years a.nd I have NOT experienced ANY of the mentioned problems,I loved it, and I will keep using it,and recommending it ,an excellent product

  • thedonn007

    ND not included, or is it?

    • Jeebus

      That’s a free bonus, no charge.

    • m-cameron

      You know, I hear people claim these are dangerous, and I just don’t see it……the trigger is covered by the fabric on your pants, and the fabric on your shirt….. So what exactly is going to get into the trigger to pull it?

      How is really any less secure than a galco soft-tuck?

      • thedonn007

        I have a relative that shot himself in the foot. No, it was not because of a dlip draw, but if there was a clip draw installed on his pistol the same thing would have happened. He was not using a holster and as he insterted the firearm into his pocket his car key engaged the trigger and the pistol fired a round into his foot.

        If we was using a softtuck, the pistol would not have fired as he inserted the firearm and holster into his pocket.

        • Mcameron

          that is operator error…

          first of all, we was carrying in his pocket, and not his waste band…

          2, he was carrying a gun in his pocket, with other objects in his pocket…..you always pocket carry with an empty pocket.

        • meow

          Wouldn’t a clip draw have prevented that from happening? Instead of in his pocket it would have gone on his waist, where a lot less keys have the likelihood of engaging the trigger.

        • I mean, what kind of moron throws his pistol in the same pocket as his car keys? I wouldn’t even put my phone in the same pocket as my car keys.

        • Raymond Miller

          One of the first things you learn in concealed carry is that you don’t carry a gun in your pocket unless it is in a holster. A sticky Holster or other pocket holster. I carry my LCP all the time and always in a pocket holster. I also have a clip on it made by Tecnaclip and love it

      • Nathan Alred

        “what exactly is going to get into the trigger to pull it?”
        Perhaps a piece of fabric from your shirt?

        • Mcameron

          how the hell do you tuck your shirts, that would allow that to happen in any capacity?

        • Phil Elliott

          Posted already in this article about my experience with a “Clipdraw”, forgot to mention that when sliding my weapon into my pants, I always stick a finger BEHIND the trigger, so no chance of an ND.

      • I’ve tried multiple times with an empty pistol to try to fire a Glock and VP9 via “mexican carry” and have yet to succeed. I even tried a few times inserting the pistol into my waistband with my finger in the trigger guard to no effect.

        It’s obviously not the safest option, but that doesn’t make it patently unsafe, much less the ‘instant ND’ that most make it out to be.

  • Rocky Mountain 9

    I could maaaybe see a use for this with my S&W Shield. It has a manual safety, though, and this thing would be madness on something like a Glock 43.

  • Jon

    I believe this product was intended for your firearm to be carried without a round in the chamber

    • Anonymoose

      Yeah, but who would do something like that? The whole point of carrying a Glock is to simplify the drawing and firing with nothing in between. I mean, you might as well get one of those thingies that hold the mag outside the magwell if you want to add extra steps to your draw.

      • HSR47

        I assume you’re making allusions to so-called “Israeli carry” with that photograph…

        To be clear, that particular method of carry came about for a very good reason: In the early days of the modern state of Israel, the state was forced to make do with whatever firearms they could get. When that came to pistols, that meant pretty much every kind of sidearm you can imagine. As a result, the variety of features of these firearms, and the fact that they were typically issued to units rather than individuals, made for a training nightmare.

        As a result, carrying with an empty chamber and all safeties disengaged made a LOT of sense at the time the policy was adopted: It meant that there was a 100% consistent training standard that applied to every single pistol in inventory.

        That being said, that rationale disappeared once the state was able to adopt a standard and modern sidearm effectively statewide. The continued persistence of carrying in condition 3 can really only be explained by the Jewish reverence for tradition: They keep doing it because it’s the way they’ve always done it; The reason why they did it in the first place, and the fact that it no longer applies, hasn’t really been able to break this desire to adhere to tradition.

        Hopefully they’ll figure it out, and fix it, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

        • Anonymoose

          Makes some sense, I guess. The only guns I would personally carry with an empty chamber would be a revolver with the firing pin on the hammer, the TT-33, or maybe certain lever-actions, though.

        • Actually, I think that is a regulation put on soldiers in Israel. I could definitely be wrong, but I remember reading such.

          They’re required to carry at all times, but not allowed to have a weapon in battery. That’s why they came out with those things that fit in the mag well and hold the AR magazine. Easy to drop and slip in if need be.

          To add to this discussion, having to pull the slide is far less of an issue for someone who isn’t comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber.

          I know a lot of 1911 carriers that do so.

          • HSR47

            Perhaps you didn’t read my previous comment fully.

            The TLDR is this: Condition 3 became standardized out of necessity (see above), and has persisted largely due to the Jewish fetish for tradition.

  • Adam

    I believe they also offer a cover that snaps over the trigger guard. The cover is tied to a belt loop and is remove when you draw. I have never tried this so I don’t know how comfortable it would be against your body all day, but I would feel better about it with the extra trigger guard cover.

  • Sianmink

    Acceptable with a tethered trigger guard I guess, I’d prefer a little more control over the height and presentation angle though.

  • Brian

    I had one on a bodyguard and it could clip to my pants behind my belt right up front. Gun disappeared but the draw was not quick. Deep cover with no bulk but not quick.

    I have considered getting the one for the p938 but I’ve heard there are fit problems. At least with the p938 the clip pushes the handle out farther for a better grip when drawing.

    These are definitely more innovative and usable than versicarry.

    • Thomas Gomez

      Thank you Brian.

  • meow

    I had Kel-tec’s version on their .32 and never had any problems. I’ve been debating one on a Shield with thumb safety.

  • G0rdon_Fr33man

    Pretty ghetto…

  • LV-426

    These end up being a good minimal set up in conjunction with a MIC or other trigger guard holster.

    • st4

      That combo is definitely the way to rock ’em. Keep an eye out for draw string wear and tear though, especially if you practice drawing with one a lot.

    • Thomas Gomez

      Thank you Sir. Very informative!

    • Phaideaux

      I do exactly that with an lcp. Using one of these belt clips without something else covering the trigger is probably not the best idea.

      That being said, that trigger guard setup has the interesting added benefit of absolutely forcing you to keep your finger off the trigger for the first half of your draw, until the guard pops off.

      It also acts as a second retention of sorts. If the clip somehow let go of your belt, that guard would keep your gun attached to you by the string.

    • Lew Siffer

      Used the clipdraw for awhile a couple of decades ago. Worked great
      until the gun worked up and off the belt and fell down my pants leg. I
      might try it again with this string and plastic trigger cover thing, but if I use
      that, why do I need the clipdraw?

  • Mario AK

    Seems like a perfect fit for an XDS, not so sure about the other ones, safety-wise. It does sit way too close to the extractor though.

  • Vizzini

    If they work for some people, fine, but for me:

    1. In warm weather, I’ll sweat all over the gun
    2. I live a very active lifestyle: (ranching, frequently on horseback)> I’ve had clip-on magazine holsters and knives work their way off my belt, and have nearly lost a gun in holsters without retention. I don’t use any holster that doesn’t have a thumb-break, carry-lok, hammer strap, or at least tight spring retention (kydex holsters). I can definitely see a gun with clipdraw working its way right out of my pants after enough bending, lifting, mounting and dismounting.
    3. Bare gun rubbing against my body == uncomfortable.

    I mostly use OWB holsters for all the above-mentioned reasons.

    My one IWB holster is for my tiny Kel-Tec P-32 and has good tension and a j-hook to keep it from lifting.

    ND is the least of my worries, and if i was worried about that the nifty little trigger guard cover that LV-426 shows in his posts would allay that worry (might save me from dropping the gun on the ground too!)

    • Thomas Gomez

      Thanks for the insight! Where in the country is your ranch?

      • Vizzini

        Southeast Ohio. I’m actually within Wayne National Forest.

        • Thomas Gomez

          Nice! The USDA Forest Service can be finicky with lease permits.

          • Vizzini

            No leases involved. There’s substantial privately-owned land within the forest boundaries.

          • Thomas Gomez

            Good to hear.

  • Hhhhuuuurrrrtttt

    “have several friends who have been in gunfights”

    Where you livin’, homie?

    • Thomas Gomez

      Ha ha! New Mexico is a rough place, but my friends are combat vets. They use Clipdraws to carry their Glock 19’s.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    They recommend Condition 3 carry when using their clips. I don’t have a problem with that, but I know that the rabidly anti Condition 3 gun community will have an aneurysm… I have one on my Ruger LCP and it works great. It makes racking the slide slightly harder, but not enough to make me worry about it.

    • Anonymoose

      The only time I have a gun in condition 3 is when it’s in the safe or in transport.

  • Captain Obvious

    Been carrying for over 40 years on and off duty and now retired. I have Clipdraw clips on at least 5 pistols and mostly always carry IWB with just it. Never had a ND or problem. They just make any pistol more convenient to use.

  • Edeco

    Seems OK to me. I’ve thought getting one, not as a regular carry option, but just to make one of my things handier in case I’m somehow behooved to pants it and roam around a bit.

  • Marc

    I have two of these for my revolvers. Work perfectly at appendix position for deep concealment. Draw is a little slow however.

  • Cian Smith

    I have the Clipdraw on a Glock 19 and a Glock 26,botb used in conjunction with a Mic holster. I carry either small of the back or appendix. I’ve never had an issue with it. It stays put with virtually no bulk, and even if I’m paranoid when sitting in open back chairs, when I reach back, it’s clipped nice and tight. Draw is relatively quick, but racking slide is a bit more difficult. May do some scoring for a better grip.

  • lowell houser

    One of these on a Shield with thumb safety is an intriguing idea.

  • Keith Akers

    It’s a good idea if I used it I’d use it in combination with a MIC holster . The two would go to gather like
    peanutbutter and jelly

  • SnazzyGent

    I use a competing product, Techna Clip, on my XDS. Much more robust in my opinion.

  • The biggest issue for me is having the gun just fall out my pants. I carry my flashlight clipped IWB and it frequently pops out of my waistband, especially when getting into/out of cars and seats. Running or fighting, I can see it falling out given the momentum of the much heavier pistol pulling upwards during rapid movement.

    I think it’s a great option for a house gun that you can quickly stick IWB when answering the door, or going out into the yard to check on something.

  • Phil Elliott

    Have a “Clipdraw” from Kel-Tec on a P-32. Works very well, and eliminates the problem of slipping down into your pants. Also eliminates the need for a holster, that said you do need to be more vigilant about cleaning and lubrication than normal as the gun does pick up a lot of fuzz. Does not impede the draw or the shoot ability. I’ve been using it for about 6 yrs, now.

  • Phil Elliott

    Do you not wear underwear? I’ve carried with a clipdraw for 6 yrs. I sweat just like the next guy and it’s never been a problem. Nor have I ever had the gun come out (up). Even while playing Golf, (sometimes almost forget I’m carrying).

    • Thomas Gomez

      Thank you Sir.

  • Nimrod

    The clipdraw is one of those things that once you put it on a pistol you wonder why pistols don’t come with belt clips because they are so handy. You don’t have to carry a clipdraw equipped pistol IWB but having it allows you to carry any pistol that way without worrying about it.

  • Ken Cammenga

    you “have several friends who have been in gunfights” ….??? Not only have they been in gunfights, but they used this clip! Most of us will live an entire lifetime without being in, or knowing someone in just one gun fight, much less ‘several’ friends who not only were in gunfights, but also used this clip. Put me down as sceptical.

  • Mark

    You might really want to reconsider setting up your “Clipdraw” in a configuration where it impedes or blocks the extractor and or ejection port. Duh!

  • Cymond

    I don’t have an official ClipDraw, but my wife got a KelTec P32 as her first pistol 8 years ago, and I got the KelTec version of the ClipDraw design. I wouldn’t carry it like that normally, but it’s handy for slipping into an elastic pajama waistband when taking out the trash or whatnot. Also, perhaps most importantly, it doesn’t interfere with the DeSantis Super Fly pocket holster.

    So basically, in our case, the clip is an occasional advantage and never a disadvantage.