[SHOT 2016] The HMG Sturmgewehr Has Arrived

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Hill & Mac Gunworks brought to the show their brand new rifle, the HMG Sturmgewehr, a reproduction of the famous German StG-44 assault rifle of World War II. The company bought prototypes of three different configurations of the new gun, the STG-N, a rifle, the STG-P, a pistol with a short 13″ barrel, and the STG-K, an SBR. All three versions will be made available in four calibers, the company said: 5.56×45, 7.62×39, .300 Blackout, and the original German 7.92×33 Kurz for the purists. The HMG Sturmgewehr is not an entirely faithful reproduction of the StG-44, differing in the location of the recoil spring, the barrel retention system, and the trigger. However, the result is a firearm that resembles an original, in a rifle caliber.

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The guns displayed at the show were obviously very early prototype guns (they were completed only just in time for the show), and displayed some general roughness and want for polish – however, this is entirely excusable given the deadline of the SHOT Show and the ambitiousness of the project.

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This photo shows some of the detail of the prototypes – including some of the rougher features like a welded rear sight base, and thin charging handle slot. These were necessary compromises to get the guns ready in time for the show.

According to the pamphlet handed out by HMG, the STG-N rifle variant weighs 11 lbs, 10 oz, and will retail for $1,799, the STG-P pistol weighing 10 lbs and retailing for the same, and the STG-K SBR weighing 11 lbs and retailing for $1,959.99. These prices are of course high, but still quite a lot less thanĀ an original StG-44 would be, or even some previous attempts at bringing a reproduction to the US market.



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Beju

    Under $2k? That’s terrible. That’s the kind of price that will lead to me buying it and subsequently angering my wife.

    • Giolli Joker

      Start now to buy her shoes to offset the risk…

      • Tassiebush

        Yeah ideally it’s great to encourage their purchase first. I find too layby coupled with a foggy actual cost of the gun seems to diminish reaction intensity. It also seems to work well to share the news when they’re in a post org@zmic fog.

      • Beju

        Good idea. Since she’s into Chuck Taylors and Vans, not designer Italian shoes, I can get her a pair every month for the price of 1/2 of an HMG Sturmgewehr.

    • Gilbert

      Just tell her what the latest roiginal went for at a Rock Island auction. Then that will surley make it all better. šŸ˜‰

    • Best solution I’ve always found is to put the gun on layaway with a balance due of around $500. Then pick up the gun later, paying off the balance. Now you have a new gun to to bring home with a receipt for $500!

  • Anonymoose

    Another gun that I absolutely need.

    • william

      I shot an original (full auto) stg-44 a few months ago, these a things are still quite readily available here in Europe. A colleague shooter got this one for free from the family of a deceased farmer that kept in in his attic for 70+ years.

  • Don Ward

    It will be interesting to see what they look like after the shoddy, ehrmagod-we-got-a-Shotshow-Deadline QC issues are solved.

    • Blake

      As noted in the article, the rifle in the photo is a prototype…

  • Rusty S.

    Did they mention what kind of trigger they decided to use? Single-stage, 2-stage or otherwise?

    • abecido

      It is going to use HK-91 trigger packs.

      • hh

        prob cant use a registered sear in it from what ive heard.
        hh

  • gunsandrockets

    How much is blood plasma going for these days?

    • Tassiebush

      This here is my plasma rifle…

    • Don Ward

      *Two days later gunsandrockets walks into the blood bank with 40 five-gallon buckets of blood*

      What do you mean it has to be MY blood?!?!?

    • oldman

      About 25 bucks a liter or it was.

  • Thomas WeiƟhuhn

    So you have a rifle that looks like an Stgw 44 but has an altered trigger, recoil spring and barrel retention spring… I don’t get it, I’d find a direct copy, much more apealing…
    yeah I guess these improvements enhance the rifle but still…

    • Tassiebush

      from what I’ve read the modifications are about making it possible to produce them at a price that’s affordable for a much larger number of enthusiasts. Also probably has something to do with offering the interchangeable uppers.

      • Thomas WeiƟhuhn

        hmm… okay thats a point.

        • Tassiebush

          I totally get where you’re coming from.
          For context i read somewhere that detailed custom replicas seem to often be more around $5000 per unit. Seems to be due to set up costs, so much reverse engineering and often a pretty small market.
          In that context this is a huge step aiming at a more affordable model for a bigger market and offering it in popular chamberings is pretty cool.
          Oh I think too with the trigger it may be about having to design one that keeps the ATF happy since the original is select fire.

          • Thomas WeiƟhuhn

            5000$ per unit? sounds almost reasonable for a COSTOM replica but i as you said at this price the marked would be to small. the trigger makes sense to me too now that you mentioned ATF.

    • Malthrak

      They cover most of the changes on InRange’s channel. Most of the changes are there because the STG44 was designed and produced under extreme wartime conditions, with the result that some things were done either very crudely or with very poor quality materials, and making a truly faithful direct repro would result in rifles with a relatively limited lifespan or possible safety issues. Headspacing for example was done by hand and securing the relevant parts with molten lead and not expecting the lifespan of the user to be long enough for that to crack or fail.

      • Tassiebush

        For other readers/viewers here is part 1 covering the contruction of the originals and the shortcomings you mentioned for a civilian owner.
        https://www.full30.com/video/ecb89fd5ddcf0d57eaa6031dbf3edb6b

        • Thomas WeiƟhuhn

          awsome!

          • Tassiebush

            yeah I found it fascinating! it really pointed out the utilitarian features which were awesome for making the originals cheaper and quicker to make!

          • Thomas WeiƟhuhn

            Me too, its really fascinating to watch them breaking down the gun into its pieces. Usually you think as a german product it must have been top notch quality(and even I as a german, who should know better, i often find my self beleaving that) but in this case its just as good as necesarry in order to increase the output. And they even showed rifles out of different batches!

      • Thomas WeiƟhuhn

        I didn’t have this in mind wehen I made my coment but it totaly makes sense.

  • Tassiebush

    Here’s a quick look from InRangetv. They do a quick pull apart
    https://www.full30.com/video/09bf1105a956036fe71e7ecf9e55f817

  • John

    Lol people complaining about the price who then go out and buy a $1,200 AR and an additional $1,000 in add-ons.

    • Andrew Dubya

      This, this, a thousand times this.

    • Bal256

      Nah, the people who do nothing but complain about the price are probably the people who don’t have more than one gun that cost over $500 and are probably rocking an NCStar on their “go-to-war Wasr” that they shoot twice a year.

  • Lance

    Way to expensive!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Devil_Doc

    $1800? Pass…

  • Leigh Rich

    $1999.95!!

  • David Sharpe

    A) I hope they come to Canada.

    B) I hope they are Non-Restricted.

    • Niguana

      marstar sells mp44s made in germany in canada, where the hell have you been?

      • David Sharpe

        A) they cost $3000

        B) They are in 7.92×33 Kurz, which is expensive and hard to find.

  • Evan

    Is 7.92 Kurz ammo even available? Like, at all? I’ve never seen it for sale ever, and I’ve seen all kinds of oddball calibers for sale at gun shows.

    • De Facto

      One or two manufacturers overseas will do occasional runs and then they’re available, still a pricey boutique round, but ammo CAN be had. The ballistics are very comparable to 7.62×39 and 300 BLK though.

      • Gubbins48

        Prvi Partisan still makes it, although I’d bet it’s pretty occasional!

    • Blake

      The HMG will be available in 8 Kurz, 300 BLK, 5.56/223, & 7.62×39. It takes STANAG mags (modified with HMG guts in the appropriate caliber) to make it work in the rifle.

  • Niguana

    Hell will freeze over before I pay over 800 for any firearm. And I love guns.

    • ostiariusalpha

      No, you don’t.

      • Niguana

        Because I don’t spend like an idiot? You must be a liberal.

        • ostiariusalpha

          Because Liberals enjoy purchasing nice guns with hard earned money? You must be a Trumpublican, saying you “love” conservative values as long as it doesn’t inconvenience you.

          • Niguana

            Gee that made sense. Kid, kill yourself. Hard earned money my ass, you’re probably sitting in mommy’s basement collecting social security because you have Asperger’s and can’t associate with people offline. Had you a house, real job, and bills, you wouldn’t be rushing out and spending thousands of dollars on guns. HARD earned money goes towards living, you uncovered yourself the moment you tried to pretend you had a good income.

          • Tassiebush

            Buying better guns is actually just a matter of being a bit older and being lucky enough to be working. I pay a mortgage, support my family and could afford a gun at this price. I find your use of an example of someone with aspergers on social security used as an insult to be very distasteful. There is no shame in not being able to afford one of these guns if you can’t help it and there is nothing respectable in looking down on people disadvantaged with disability.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Gee, kill myself? I must have hit a sore spot, sorry little guy. What I say does make sense to everybody else that’s grown the hell up enough to have made something of themselves so they can spend their own money on something besides living. Disposable income has to be earned too, you dimwit, but apparently you’ve never tried that.

    • DataMatters

      I hear you, but $800 just isn’t that much money anymore.

  • John Golling

    How much for extra magazines ?

  • Mmmtacos

    Excellent, I love it. Now someone get to work on a C96 clone, please.

    • Andrew Dubya

      I`d give anything for one in 9mm, or maybe a Shanxi .45?

  • bruce Cambell

    Given the simple nature in the mechanics of the STG44 and what it would take to mass produce, The retail should not be more than $1200 – Looks like this is a really small (new) company that will only be able to produce very limited units over a year

  • Dan Hermann

    I have friends with original STG44’s, If this did not externally look exactly like an original I would not want it. Of course no full auto but we use them for WWII reenactments. It would have to look correct.

  • M.S.1

    For $3000, the marstar are even worse price-wise.

  • n0truscotsman

    Between this, the new AK, and the X95, im getting overstimulated

  • Just keep sending comments until something happens doesn’t work. Inconsistent editing of comments or not approving them is simply not something I have the time or inclination to address. Nathaniel has nothing whatsoever to do with who has a comment deleted or edited for content. I’m the only one who monitors what Disqus blocks. We are all very busy trying to bring you SHOT coverage so I don’t have the time to sit and approve comments every minute. We are all working very long days for SHOT coverage so expect some delay in them being passed through if they are blocked.
    Don’t talk to me about the bill of rights it’s a private website we set the rules and that’s just the way it is. No I probably won’t ok all of the 10 or so comments sent in the last hour because they are redundant.

    • hydepark

      Here comes Phil to save the day I guess. No mention of the original comment I posted that was in no way out of the ordinary for this blog? That’s what started it. I guess it hurt your feelers? Some guy says he doesn’t spend more than $800 on any firearm and I tell him his guns are probably mostly garbage and that’s not civil. Nor are about 25% of the comments in this blog. I guess I’ll be happy my point got through and I’ll let you have your safe space and refrain from further triggering your sensitivities.

      • Not hurting my feelings and I’m not saving the day just explaining. It’s not a safe space but we do have some young readers we need to be mindful of.

        • hydepark

          Nice obfuscation. Like I said, I don’t mind following the rules as long as they’re enforced across the board. And you must be pretty old to believe that youngsters these days would be shocked by such mild language.

  • It’s simple put in a link and it gets blocked by Diqus. Use any of the words flagged by myself or Steve and it gets blocked for approval. Same rules for all. Most people have no problem.

    Calling Nathaniel a whatever but insulting him is uncalled for. He can answer you if he wants to or not but again he has no control over letting comments come through.

    • hydepark

      Go ahead and check that link and I’ll direct you to the post that got through. So no, Master Phil, Disqus doesn’t do what you say it does. You seem to have a difficult time with people calling you out on your BS too. I seem to remember you getting rather irritated when I pointed out all the misinformation you were providing on the Sig MPX a while back. Guess what, I was right then too. Not that being right is the point, but being petty and overly-sensitive seem to be a regular thing with you.

      • Whatever–No I’m not sensitive in the least. I don’t even remember the comment you made on the SIG much less be upset about it.

        • hydepark

          Interesting. You seemed to be pretty sure of yourself about the MPX back then and again, when I and others called you out on almost all of your “insider” information being completely bogus you got defensive and rude. Look it up if you can’t remember.

          And I beg to differ; your sensitivity to my initial comment led to me calling you out in the first place. And I’m sure I’m not the only one who sees you regularly over-react to simple statements and questions. I’ve long thought that you’re the type of guy most people my age can’t stand when browsing local gun stores. A know-it-all old timer to say the least.

          • Tassiebush

            In my experience posting comments works just as Phil says. Key words trigger the moderator approval as does posting a link or picture. If you find your comments aren’t going up it’s generally just a case of waiting.

          • Yes sir just that simple.

          • Look I’m done with talking to you about this. It’s boring and I don’t have the time.
            I’d drop it if I were you.

          • hydepark

            So now you’ve devolved into threats? Well done, Phil.

          • It’s not a threat. Frankly at this point I’m not interested in what you say. You seem incapable of being civil and that’s the only kind of conversation I’ll participate in. Just move on.

  • Be civil and you won’t have a problem —simple.

  • Andrew Dubya

    WHEEEEE!
    LET`S ALL RIDE THE COMMENT SECTION ROLLERCOASTER!
    LET`S BE SALTY AND FILL THE COMMENT SECTION WITH CONTENT UNRELATED TO THE ARTICLE!
    AREN`T WE ALL HAVING A GREAT TIME?
    Grow up, jeez. It was fun to watch for about 15 minutes but now this dog and pony show has about as much depth as two 5-year olds arguing over who the best Ninja Turtle is.

    • Tassiebush

      I like Michaelangelo cos he’s a party dude.

      • ostiariusalpha

        What the shell, dude?! Yo, Raf is best cuz’ he has the rebellious attitude.

        • Joshua

          man, Leonardo is the beast, twin Katanas like a Boss!

          • Don Ward

            I always got stuck with being Donatello because my name is Don.

            And my only weapon is this stupid stick.

          • Tassiebush

            Thanks for stepping up and taking one for the team! I must admit the nunchucks and staff were the only weapons I got round to making.

  • John Pate

    Let’s see one on the table with an original.

  • Vince L

    I think the price of this gun is quite reasonable considering what you’re getting- a handmade custom rifle designed and built from the ground up. The AR and AK platforms had pretty substantial government backing for decades and today enjoys huge economies of scale. For HMG to do what they are doing as a cottage shop on their own and selling at this price point is absolutely amazing. You have gun smiths building 1911’s using off the shelf parts for 2-3x the price of this rifle. I don’t know these guys, but I suspect that a lot of love went into designing this rifle because the time and effort won’t get re-paid. It looks like they really wanted to resurrect a shooting STG-44 for themselves and invited us along for the ride. And I got my ticket šŸ™‚

  • usmcwarrior

    $1,800.00 for a rough, “almost accurate” copy of an historical piece?