New Cartridge: 30 Nosler

30 Nosler

Nosler officially announced a new rifle cartridge: the 30 Nosler. The third in a series of rifle cartridges introduced by the company in recent years, the 30 Nosler claims to combine the beast aspects of four other cartridges into one super cartridge:

  • velocity of the 300 Weatherby
  • headspaces on the shoulder like the 300 RUM
  • efficient powder column akin to the 300 WSM
  • same action length as the 300 Win Mag

The new 30 Nosler is SAAMI standardized.

30 Nosler rifle

To start with, the company will offer two loads for the new caliber. The first is in the company’s Trophy Grade line. It uses a 180 grain AccuBond bullet that is rated at 3,200 fos at the muzzle. The second load is in the Trophy Grade LR line. This load uses a 210 grain AccuBond LR load and clocks at 3,000 fps. Velocities for both loads were measured from a 26″ barrel.

To support the new caliber, the company is now offering the caliber as an option in its M48 Heritage, M48 Liberty and M48 Custom rifles. It should come as no surprise that the company also offers brass for handloaders. In its most recent reloading manual, the company included load recipes for the 30 Nosler.

The other calibers that the company has developed recently are the 26 Nosler and the 28 Nosler.



Richard Johnson

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  • WFDT

    Beast aspects?

    • ostiariusalpha

      “Winchester Magnums are but a rope, tied between Beast and Super Cartridge – a rope over an abyss.” – Friedrich Nosler

  • Paul White

    So, what’s this do that any of the other 30’s can’t?

    • ostiariusalpha

      It’s basically slightly faster than the 300 Win Mag while fitting in the same action length. And, due to dropping the stupidly useless belt on the case, it has pretty much the same magazine capacity as that cartridge.

      • Unlicensed Dremel

        Yep.

      • David A Garvin

        You think a rebated rim extracts better than a belted case? Wrong.

        • ostiariusalpha

          Oh, noes! A rebated rim! Jeebus, who shoved the stick up your ass there, Dave? First of all, this isn’t a semi-auto, it’s going to extract just fine in any bolt gun not made by Remington. And what the hell does the belt have to do with extraction anyways on a .300 WinMag? Second, even if the cartidge wasn’t faster than the .300 WM (and it is), it would be worth it both for deleting the belt and adding an actually useful neck length on the case for seating bullets. I’m sorry, but you just come across like that guy that has drunk Budweiser his whole life and gets miffed whenever anyone points out that it’s not very good.

          • David A Garvin

            Angry much?

          • David A Garvin

            I have a 300 RUM and yes, I’ve had real issues with extraction. You are an intensely angry person. I’m sorry I offended your sensibilities with facts and it forced you to attack me personally.

          • ostiariusalpha

            A gibe and actual anger are not something easily confused even in text, but you somehow managed it. Bravo. Also, I’m not the one that created a Disqus account just so he could trash a cartridge that he’s never used, so it seems like you’re projecting a little here, no? I have no vested interest in the success of the 30 Nosler and am perfectly content to let it succeed or fail on its own merits, as the old .30-06 is more than satisfactory for my wants and needs. Now can you say the same? You’re really truly not a .300 WM fanboy that got his feelings hurt when he read some criticism of a cartridge that he had invested his money and emotions into? Because if you’re not, then I apologize, it’s just that the 7 consecutive comment postings that you plastered around a nearly forgotten old thread that only had 20 comments in it before you even showed up seems a little excessive.

            Your extraction issues with the .300 RUM have almost certainly nothing to do with the case’s rebated rim. Rebated rims can be troublesome for feeding when the bolt skips over rim (though you didn’t mention that as a difficulty), but once the round is chambered and the claw has sunk into the extractor groove, it shouldn’t care what size the rim is. It appears more likely that you’ve had either mechanical issues with your extractor, perhaps a rough chamber, or even a potentially serious overpressure problem, but you haven’t been particularly specific about what you did to troubleshoot your gun.

          • David A Garvin

            You’re admitting that a rebated rim is inferior, and you’re not using facts to challenge my assertion that the 30 Nosler is redundant, because the 300 win mag is nearly identical.
            That’s what I thought.

          • ostiariusalpha

            That a rebated rim can be potentially more problematic in feeding than a rimless cartridge? That’s just common sense. Of course, belted cartridges themselves have a good deal of issues with feeding. Rimlock can and does happen, same as with rimmed and semi-rimmed cases; these are widely known and well understood facts. As Dremel already mentioned the 30 Nosler is plenty redundant if you’ve already invested in a 30 cal magnum, its to those shooters that are interested, but haven’t yet gotten into this class of cartridges that it makes more sense (there are also those that have enough money to simply jump into the latest trendy cartridge with no regard for whether it will still have any support 6 months later). The two important things that .300 WM has over the Nosler are that it’s relatively cheap and has a good selection of rifle manufacturers that chamber guns for it. That’s nothing to sneeze, but doesn’t change the its design is fairly crap.

          • David A Garvin

            Belted cartridges are actually noted for their slick feeding. I’m not sure where you are getting your information.
            I think the whole point is that when given the two choices, regardless of what you already own, why on earth would you buy a 30 Nosler? You just named several reasons why the 300 win mag is superior. I have no vested interest in the 300 win mag. I have one and I rarely shoot it, and I’ve never hunted with it. But for the life of me, this cartridge has no obvious benefit.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Dave, if you spent actual money on a .300 WM rifle then you are by definition “vested.” All cartridges feed slickly if you’ve loaded them in the magazine correctly and your rifle is in spec: rebated, belted, rimmed, and rimless, it doesn’t matter. If you bother to go on any search engine and look up “rimlock belted magnums” you’ll find pages and pages of people dealing with the issue in their rifles. Also, I named only two reasons for the .300 WM, that is not “several.” I did though list several obviously superior points for the 30 Nosler, and I’ll list them again because you don’t seem to read so good: no useless belt, better case capacity, and more neck. The design of the Nosler is simply superior to the WinMag, but that will always have to be weighed against its greater expense.

    • David A Garvin

      Nothing.

  • Let’s savor the opportunity to lambast a cartridge as “just another .30 caliber.” Usually we only get to chuckle at “just another AR15.”

    • Unlicensed Dremel

      Too much unnecessary thump for my blood, but fact is, it DOES have a lot going for it, unlike any other .30 maggie in the last 50 years.

      • David A Garvin

        You keep saying it has an advatage over the 300 win mag. 50 Fps is hardly an advantage.

  • smartacus

    i like how it headspaces like 300 RUM and has the same action length as 300 Win Mag.
    I own a 338 RUM and 338 Win Mag myself and am wondering what a 338 Nosler would do
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  • Rogue

    Ok, sounds good to me. If I didn’t already have a 30-06, a 308, a 300 WM and a 7.62 X 54 (which I reload using .308 bullets) I might think about buying one. Since I’m not wealthy and I’m married I’ll probably have to pass. I do think if had I been younger and been in the market for my first Magnum rifle I would probably look pretty hard at it.

  • maodeedee

    I’m holding out for the 35 Nosler. I have a 35 Remington and a 358 Winchester and 35 Whelen and a 350 rem mag and I’ve been wanting to get a 358 Norma but the barrel twists are all to slow for proper 280 grain bullets to take advantage of the greater capacity the larger case has to offer. I’m sure Norma would design a 35 caliber Nosler with a faster twist for heavy long range projectiles and they could even come out with some new bullets to go with it in 250 and 280 grain weights..
    If they’d come out with a 35 Nosler and some proper bullets in that caliber there’d be no need to bother with either a 338 or 375 Nosler. But a 416 Nosler might be good, though.

  • dltaylor51

    I’m sick of these new rounds that keep coming out from every Tom,Dick and Harry that always use Weatherby as their bench mark,just buy a Weatherby and be done with it besides that its hard enough trying to find a box of 35 Rem,32Win or 300 Savage and all of these new rounds coming out are messing with the availability of good rounds we already have.

    • Unlicensed Dremel

      Why, when you can have the touted advantages (no belt, shorter action, etc)? The advantages are there and they’re REAL.

      • dltaylor51

        I never have liked watching the wheel getting reinvented.The magnum belt can be a real advantage if you know creative reloading,neck size only and let the shoulder touch the chamber that way you are head spacing on the belt and the shoulder,makes for some extreme accuracy and the cases last untill the primer pockets wont hold a primer anymore.I have long arms so a shorter bolt stroke is unimportant,if a person is built like a Hobbit it may be an issue but not to most of us.

        • David A Garvin

          Totally agree. You can adjust dies so your round headspaces off the neck. Belt is great for extracting hot rounds.
          This really is a reinvention of a cartridge that’s been around for 50 years already.

      • David A Garvin

        It’s not a shorter action – article says it’s same length as 300 Win Mag – and a belt is not a disadvantage. That’s a myth. A rebated rim is a disadvantage if anything.
        Do you work for Nosler?

        • dltaylor51

          Right now I’m having a tough time finding 300 Savage,35 rem.32 Win.375 Win.but the shelves are full of 204 Ruger,375 Ruger,26 Nosler,300 Blackout and no one i know even shoots any of these rounds let alone reloads for them.I have no problem with new rounds coming out as long as its not at the expense of our already great calibers that have served us for many decades.

  • Keith Denigan

    You won’t find this priced or available like 300 Winchester. Doesn’t look like it is all that much better than the 300 Winnie.

    • Unlicensed Dremel

      It’s actually a LOT better if you don’t already own one (shorter action, no belt)….but if you do already own a .30 maggie of some flavor, then it’s ho-hum.

      • Keith Denigan

        Maybe. I don’t reload. I like finding a potent round like 300 Win for $20 a box or less if you shop around. You won’t find the 30 Nosler at Bubba’s Bait Shop in Big Empty Montana if you forget your ammo for annual elk hunt.
        .
        Also, the Army Sniper round will make its way to commercial someday. It rocks and only costs us taxpayers $1.15 per round. Better than Nosler…

      • David A Garvin

        How is it a lot better? Ballistics are nearly identical, within 50 Fps. Actions are same length. It’s not a short action round.

  • Rubio2016

    This is great. But I’ve already sold all my .30 calibers for 6.5 Creedmoor and I’ve dropped everything big with the 6.5 including a Moose from 300 meters. Took a couple steps before it took a nose dive and broke the right side of it’s rack. Holds energy forever, flat shooter, fairly inexpensive (compared to .300 win mag) and incredible accuracy. Bye, bye .30.

  • Old Vet

    Just looks like another Ackley Improved .30-06 to me??

    • ostiariusalpha

      A good bit more case volume then any AI can manage with my beloved 30-06, and the increased velocity to go with it.

  • BLH557

    So, in other words… a 300 RUM from Nosler.
    I shoot a 300 RUM.
    180 gr Barnes TTX @ 3450 fps
    210 gr Berger HVLD @ 2950 fps

    Much ado about the same thing.

  • David A Garvin

    Pointless, redundant, another gimmick gone awry.

    The 30 Nosler is already outperformed by the 300 Weatherby and 300 RUM, and it barely – I mean BARELY edges out the 300 win mag. According to Nosler itself, the 300 Win Mag can be loaded within 40fps of the 30 Nosler with IMR 4831 with 180 grain bullets. Do you think an animal will be able to tell the difference? The standard deviation alone will make up for that.

    …and the argument about dropping the belt. First, if you know what you’re doing, you can headspace off the neck. But I’ll tell you what’s worse than a belt – a rebated rim. You know that a belted magnum will extract every time. I can’t say the same about a round with a rebated rim, which the 30 Nosler has.

    I won’t even get started about the price of the rifles (or ammo cost/availability), either.

    Don’t drink the kool-aid.