[SHOT 2016] LMT PDW stock kit

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Among a number of interesting products on display from Lewis Machine & Tool, was an exceptionally short AR Personal Defense Weapon (PDW). Now, when we talk about short ARs, it might be in terms of barrel length, or maybe some of those different folding stock variants. LMT has gone the opposite direction, and has shortened the entire buffer tube by a few inches, in addition to shortening the actual telescoping stock as well. The stock is based on their Crane inspired stock that they have been so successful with and is copied all over,except that there isn’t a rubber pad for recoil absorption, in addition to the compartments/overall length of the stock has been shortened as well. Of course, combined with an SBR length barrel/upper receiver, firing the weapon in this collapsed position isn’t the point of the contraption. It could be done, but perhaps with some pain and minimal rear sight alignment. The intent is to keep the stock in the fully collapsed position for concealment, then to properly deploy the weapon, to extend the stock out to its full length or one of the intermediate positions along the buffer tube, and then firing it. I was able to shoot it in this position at Media Day and it wasn’t unlike shooting any other SBR AR rifle.

The rifle will be available as one complete unit, but the stock system, to include the buffer, buffer tube, spring, and stock can be bought separately at $455. Needless to say, a traditional AR buffer and spring will not work in the LMT unit.

To be honest, the whole set up really reminds me of those mini AEGs that were popular in the beginning days of airsoft, which were essentially shrunken replicas of full size firearms.

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Miles V

Former Infantry Marine, and currently studying at Indiana University. I’ve written for Small Arms Review and Small Arms Defense Journal, although writing for TFB has probably been the most rewording experience I’ve had while writing in the world of small arms. It’s the people and interactions that really motivate me to try to give you the best written post and filmed TFBTV segment I can put out. Specifically, I’m very interested in small arms history, development, and Military/LE usage within the Middle East, and Central Asia.

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  • Shadow2

    $455 for a miniaturized version of a ~$25 stock. Awesome.

    Feeling better about my Maxim CQB now.

  • Bigbigpoopi

    Babby’s first gun?

  • Petto

    Awww , it’s so cute but that price a little over but overtime it will be cheap

  • BattleshipGrey

    You had me until $455.

  • Jon Baker

    I’ll stick with the LWRC version, the UCIW, for $300 cheaper, thanks…

    • thedonn007

      I was going to mention the LWRC Ulrtra Compact Stock as well. This version looks almost like a carbon copy. Although the UCIW is only about 1″ shorter then a standard M4 stock.

      • Sianmink

        It’s practically about two inches vs a typical carbine or magpul stock, but the difference feels a lot bigger on the actual rifle.

    • Sianmink

      Got one for my SBR build. I don’t see how the LMT model has any advantage over the LWRC, which is a fine piece of kit.

      • thedonn007

        I was going to use the LWRC UCIW for a 9 mm SBR build as well, but I found an extra magpul stock and buffer in my parts bin, so I am going to use that for now.

  • Some Guy

    Is most of the AR market really short or do people just shoot these sort of things with the rear sight lodged firmly in their cornea and their elbows pointed behind them?

    • ostiariusalpha

      Not especially, but PDWs in particular need to be rather compact because they are intended to be as unobtrusive as possible for the non-combat duty personnel that carry them for emergency use. In the case of bad breath distance emergency use, careful aiming is not a high priority, but Miles mentions that the stock can be extended for getting actual use from the sights.

      • Some Guy

        I’m sort of kidding. But the trend these days seems to be towards super short LOP and I’m over here with my standard M4 stock run all the way out wishing it was a little longer.

        Maybe I’m not HSLD enough to understand why anybody not in a non-combat military role would want a short stock

        • ostiariusalpha

          I feel ya’. If you want a bit more length, you should get what I have on my AR: an A5 receiver extension with an appropriate stock. I use a Magpul SL stock and it works very well.

        • Bill

          I don’t get it either; stocks tend to be too short anyway. Even wearing hard armor I don’t need/want a stock this short. Where it may excel is in a vehicle mounted role for protection specialists or stakeouts. It’d be far more maneuverable than a standard M4, which isn’t a big gun until you’re trying to wrestle with it in a Charger or Impala.

    • Sianmink

      I’ve moved the rear sight up to about in line with the back of the ejection port on my SBR, mostly because my right eye is starting to have trouble focusing up close, and I want the ghost ring to actually be a distinct circle instead of a blurry mess.
      Getting older sucks.

  • Michael R. Zupcak

    The curse of the buffer tube. Why not wait a bit for a SIG MCX SBR with a folding stock. Why not SBR a SCAR 16? This idea of paying $500 for a 2″-shorter AR stock that requires a proprietary bolt carrier and spring is ridiculous to me. I believe SERBU is trying to release a bufferless AR-compatible upper but it’s been delayed.

  • Steve Truffer

    Meh. Still think arfcom’s solution is better.