Royal Marines S Squadron Rock MP5s

Royal Marines

The Royal Marines are still rocking the old faithful H&K MP5. This is an advertisement for the Royal Marines and focuses on the S Squadron 43 Commando Protection Fleet. I am surprised they have not been equipped with red dots and flashlights, like the SureFire fore end.

 

 



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • BattleshipGrey

    Not as flashy as some of the Scandinavian videos but it’s good to see the MP5 still in use.

    • Anton Gray Basson

      Honestly is there anything significantly better than the good old MP5?

      • No.

        • ostiariusalpha

          Oh, I don’t know about that. A well running KRISS Vector is probably a bit more capable. I’d still want the MP5K more though.

          • CommonSense23

            Hasn’t every review pretty much said the Vector is a failure. Unreliable, prone to breaking, horrible groups, and it fails to deliver on its recoil reduction.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Well, the real answer is annoyingly complicated.

            Short-n-sweet: No, every review has not said the Vector is a failure; not even the majority of reviews. Most Vectors have entirely reasonable precision in their shot groups. Any claims to massive recoil reduction were a bit overly enthusiastic, the gun has an altered recoil that counters muzzle flip. If you just want reduced recoil, a heavy SMG with a muzzle brake would do that job. The TFB writer, Nicholas C., would really be the best person to get the particulars of a Vector’s performance from.

            Still, my original statement was very much a conditional one. There have been enough evaluations rightly condemning KRISS’ QC that no agency will trust them to deliver a batch that would be free of fit & finish issues.

        • CommonSense23

          A MK18MOD1

      • st4

        Yes. Phased Plasma Rifle in da 40 watt range…

  • Mr Mxyzptlk

    From the looks of it this is essentially just a photoshoot not even a real training exercise, so the weapons may not be fitted with what they necessarily would be for actual use. In action and on real exercises they have been seen fitted with EOTechs, flashlights and vertical grips.

    Until relatively recently there was the attitude in some parts of the Royal Navy that it was best not to use an optic for boarding actions due to the chance it could be screwed up by sea water and there being spray on the lenses, but this seems to have gone away in recent years with the use of the L22A2 which can only be used with a SUSAT and not irons. I do not think that this is the case here as in actual use their MP5s tend not to be set up like this, but though it was just worth mentioning.

  • Major Tom

    Captain Price disapproves of needless accessorizing.

    • “CHECK THOSE CORNAHS!”

      • Core

        Stay frosty gents…

        • Bodie

          Soap! SOOOAAAAPPP!!!!!

  • Mike

    They would wear helmets as well, but its looks good for recruitment pictures.

  • The Royal Canadian Navy still has MP5’s on board ships for boarding parties and for training — a lot of people who join the RCN get an opportunity to dump a few magazines out into the water with them, at the very least.

    There’s a few advantages the MP5 has. With a collapsible stock, it remains quite handy, and 9mm from a short barrel in an enclosed space is a lot less shocking than 5.56 from something like a 10 inch barrel. Lastly, 9mm is easier to control if you find yourself needing to double or triple tap a threat. While I believe these boarding parties are getting C8 Carbines as well, I don’t think the MP5’s are going anywhere. I’m not in the RCN, but a I have a strange amount of friends who are.

    It’s easy to sometimes think the MP5 is an 80’s hangover, but it just doesn’t seem to die. I’m glad!

  • Foregrips and EOTech’s — not bad at all!

  • Lance

    Not a surprise, US Navy SEALs still have MP-5s in there inventory as well.

    • CommonSense23

      Wonder what you are basing that on. Cause the team’s have dropped the MP5 for all but the MP5SD as a dedicated suppressed weapon. A platoon is lucky to have three these days. They are no longer used for VBSS.

  • Yimmy

    Mp5 forever!

  • John

    I’m intrigued that there aren’t rails on their guns. Would have thought that was upgraded by now.

  • Jonathan Ferguson

    It’s “Fleet Protection”.

    Also, I believe this was my catch. You’re welcome. 🙂

  • seancaseytx

    I prefer my commercial adverts real and gritty. No helmets, no eyepro, no comm gear that I could see. The weapons not being fully kitted out. Meh.

  • Allan

    OMG you mean guns can actually work without flashlights, red dots and vertical grips , how were wars fought with these essentials for hundreds of years oh the humanity.

  • HenryV

    Better if the RM could have MP7 like MoD Plod…………

    • Mr Mxyzptlk

      I’ve used the L22A2, various MP5 variants and the MP7, and honestly I would put the MP7 at the bottom. I am a really big fan of the L22A2 for jobs like this, it is small enough that you can get down and fight in very narrow passageways that you get on shipping, yet it still fires a 5.56 round from a pretty respectable 12.5″ barrel. I will concede though that with the end of the 12.5″ barrel being so close to your face it can be a bit unpleasant to shoot inside a ship, but IMHO it is worth it.

      • HenryV

        It surprising to me how good a system these “new marks” of L85Ax are actually. I have some familiarity with ships beyond “ferries”. The reduced velocity from the shorter barrel is probably an advantage. The interior of ships offers a variety of surfaces for bullets to “bounce” off. As you know bullets can be deflected by thinnest of metals if the bullet strikes that at certain angles. But if we are going slower I would rather go bigger. The smaller intermediate round like 4.6mm and 5.7mm in the right nature are more frangible which is a as advantage too. L22A2 seems to me to be a classic British defence compromise. Better than it looks on paper, but still a compromise. But that’s just me knowing what I know about British defence, ships, L85Ax, and general characteristics of bullets. Obviously I have to bow to your real world experience. Thanks for sharing. 🙂

      • Colin S

        Is it possible to fit a muzzle shroud, or would the lower pic rail get in the way?

  • durabo

    1) Lasers point both ways
    2) Properly trained operators don’t need visible lasers for the limited range of SMGs, except for IR lasers to use with NVGs. Rag-head WOGs don’t usually have NV devices to detect IR.

  • louieleblanc1@aol.com

    When highly precision weapons are used, all the bells and whistles need not apply….Especially when a marksman is behind them…

  • rrangel

    Iron sights still work. I remember this unit back in the 90s as Comacchio Company.

  • Lee

    Old School Tacticool… Looks like they still hand crank their gyrocopters too… Oh wait, I think I see a guy armed with a flintlock muskatoon in the background!