Gun Review: Cobalt Kinetics Evolve: An Evolution of the AR

12/19/15

Cobalt Kinetics Evolve

As I mentioned in the previous press release last week, I had been invited to a media day to preview a new “AR platform” rifle concept that Cobalt Kinetics will be bringing to SHOT, and will also begin producing and selling next year. A number of you readers brought some good observations that I will hopefully be able to address in this article.

Really their performance enhancements, to date, have made sense for the competition realm (whether or not top level competitors will buy an “off-the-shelf” build is irrelevant, the design was based around those concepts). This new creation, however, has some modifications that definitely have some utility in other professions and venues.

Disclosure: I was invited to the event with a number of other media entities and industry folks; Cobalt Kinetics did cover expenses.

Construction

So, the initial disclaimer is that this platform is currently in a “beta” state. It is certainly not finalized and there is a little tweaking that it still needs prior to SHOT, and eventually sale.

Where is the forward assist?

Where is the forward assist?

The versions that were available for the demo were their “competition” (semi-auto) and “select fire” models. The overall appearance has what is the very distinctive Cobalt Kinetic look. It possesses aggressive lines and metallic finish–the rifles we shot were blue and “crushed silver” (and there is rumor that Cobalt Kinetics is going to “bring black back”). The one immediately noticeable difference between this and the BAMF (and Edge) lines is that they have smoothed out the forward picatinny rails (you can see pics from my post on the BAMF; the rails came to a pretty sharp point). The uppers also were missing their “Double-D” feature—in fact there was not even a regular forward assist (so all of you that hate the forward assist, This may be your Huckleberry).

The select fire version got hot.

The select fire version nastied up the blue Evolve Comp after a few thousand rounds.

Despite the above, the uppers are not what this demo was about. The new features and system are all part of the lower, which is named C.A.R.S. (for Cobalt Advantage Reload System; there may, or may not, have been a previous code name for the technology which may, or may not, be hilarious and certainly not for polite company). The new two new features that the C.A.R.S. brings are the automatic magazine ejection and the automatic bolt drop and lock-back.

The magazine ejection is a surprisingly obvious concept once you see it. Basically there is a small lever mounted at the top of the magazine well that is triggered when the follower in your empty magazine makes contact with it. You can see it operating in the following video.

As the lever is actuated it actually also traps the bolt behind it, using the new “bolt catch”. And when you insert a fresh magazine, this same mechanism is what “drops” the bolt.

Another really cool feature is that locking back the bolt is entirely one handed operation. You do not have to engage the bolt drop button. Simply pulling the charging handle rearward will lock the bolt in place (so long as there isn’t a loaded magazine inserted into the weapon). Similarly the bolt will not automatically go forward when an empty magazine is inserted.

They have also made improvements to the buffer system, allowing for easy end-user customization. The spring itself is sheathed in a press-fitted laminated tube, and there are a couple of options for springs based on whether or not you are running a rifle or carbine version. The weight itself is easy to modify by popping off an end cap (rather than punching out roll pins, or just buying a new weight) and swapping out for one of three variants based on the weight you are trying to set: full steel, half steel/half tungsten, or full tungsten. Also, rather than a nylon/plastic pad, they have gone with a highly absorptive rubber that eliminates pretty much all of the impact force.

All of the buffer components

All of the buffer components.  Of course in this picture the laminated tube is hard to see…

Buffer weight disassembled.

Buffer weight disassembled.

How the buffer assembly looks.

How the buffer assembly looks.

The final addition to their product is a new muzzle device. Yeah, yeah, I know. Everyone and their elderly grandmother has produced a muzzle device at this point. Well, this one performs. This specific compensator does not have any top ports (which seems to have become a recent trend). Instead the gases vent completely to the sides.

The Evolve Comp

The Evolve Comp

A couple of modifications that are already in the works are an ambidextrous magazine release button and extended bolt drop button. They were not ready for the demo rifles we fired but should be in place at SHOT.

Observations

I did my best to take some clear video so that you readers could form your own opinions about the form and function of this rifle. That said, I will layout my opinion based on my handling of the Evolve, as well as what I was able to observe from the other media that were in attendance.

Okay, so the new features… Pretty cool. I spent most of my time firing the select fire version (the mechanical aspect of the C.A.R.S. behaved the same between the semi-auto and select fire versions).

One of the pretty impressive demonstrations was firing the rifle on full auto. The new muzzle device (that they are calling the “Evolve Comp”) did an unbelievable job of stopping muzzle rise. And it did not annoy the crap out of everyone around either. The night before the shoot, they showed off some videos with Kristie O (who is maybe 100 lbs soaking wet with a lead vest on) running the rifle full auto without any discernible muzzle creep. It was duplicated at the range (thank you Mike Searson for modeling for me).

Keeping in mind these are beta versions of the rifle, they performed admirably. We did have a couple of issues with the bolt not locking back when the empty magazine was ejected (which did eject correctly, and as anticipated, when it was empty). Dave Lake, their Head Gun Smith, quickly identified that the issue was related to the well-worn 30 round PMags we were using. The variance in the manufactured tolerances of magazines is the one problem area that this rifle (still in beta, remember) currently possesses. Basically it is a timing issue. The magazine has to drop far enough out of the magazine well for the actuator to catch the bolt. With a mag that is a bit slower “out of the gate” (due to friction from size, etc.) the bolt catch is not deployed and the bolt continues forward. It will be interesting to see how this component is affected by dirt and other grime that could add friction to the system. That said, we were running pretty dirty magazines since they were all auto ejecting to the ground. Really they have engineered a precision mechanism that probably needs to be a bit sloppier… 🙂

One of the spacers in the C.A.R.S.

One of the spacers in the C.A.R.S. that is used for adjustment.

Cobalt Kinetics’ goal is to have it working well for the most common magazines in the wild, and they will have an adjustment kit (basically some spacers for the C.A.R.S.) which will allow for fine tuning to accommodate that variability. The system does run flawlessly using high end HK mags, mainly because they are manufactured with pretty tight tolerances. And while I can already hear the grumbling in the comments about this, most of us are magazine snobs—we generally run one brand of magazine and that is that. It is a fallacious argument that most ARs will run all magazines in existence without issues—a “fact” which someone once tried to convince me; never believe in absolutes… 🙂

Keith Garcia, veteran police officer and 3-Gun competitor, was brought on board to assist with some of the design and function direction, especially related to the more utilitarian, non-competition, version (I’m trying to come up a term other than “tactical”). He demonstrated some of the concepts for clearing malfunctions, including clearing a double feed one handed which you can see in the below video:

Watching the above demonstration in person definitely sold me. If you have ever had to clear a double feed, I think you can appreciate the above.  Note that he inserted an empty magazine at the end; a full magazine would have chambered a round and sent the bolt home, making the weapon ready to go again.

Questions and Answers

I had asked you readers to post questions and concerns in the press release I put out, and boy did you (though not actually as many as I expected). Most of the questions were pretty legit (given the 400 pixel wide rendered image and limited details I had for the article). I did my best to get answers for each of them.

I “reworded” a number of the questions/concerns, and also attempted to clarify what I thought some of you were asking (using my ever growing “snark” filter). I also attempted to give credit to the commenter where is was fairly unique (though a number of you had similar posts). I apologize if I left anyone’s name out—let me know in the comments and I’ll amend the article.

Will this be available in a phased plasma rifle/Star wars blaster version?

Not yet, but maybe in few years… 🙂

Does it have a normal bolt release?

No it does not have a “normal” bolt release since the catch mechanism is completely different, but it does have an external button which functions as a bolt release.

Does it have a normal magazine release

Yes, and it will also be ambidextrous.

Can the automatic functions be disabled?

Short answer is yes. Over simplifying the mechanics, there is a cam that can be positionally “locked”, effectively disabling either the automatic magazine release or the auto bolt drop.

How do you manage a Type 1 malfunction?

Same way you handle one now. Tap, rack, reassess.

How does it handle double feeds?

See the video in the previous section with Keith Garcia demonstrating a one handed clear of a double feed. Since the bolt will automatically lock back when there is no magazine present it reduces some of the complexity of the maneuver, and significantly reduces time.

How does it handle a magazine inserted when the bolt is down? Will it engage the magazine catch?

You can insert a magazine when the bolt is down and it will seat and latch properly, assuming it is not packed to the brim (which most rifles can be finicky about).

Will it handle a full 30 round magazine? (Is the buffer spring strong enough)?

It is recommended to go with 28 rounds. That said you can adjust the buffer system.

Is the pistol grip one piece with the lower? (Edeco)

No. The “standard” one is billet aluminum, but you are free to use any aftermarket one that follows the standard mount system.

Does this rifle “obsolete” any skills? (Edeco)

Hopefully. Though nothing on this rifle will prevent you from adhering to the original manual of arms.

How does the carbon fiber barrel hold up after 3 mags full auto? (Wizard of old)

They are not going to have a carbon fiber barrel on the select fire versions. The carbon barrels are rated to 800 (or so) degrees which can be exceeded by the radiant heat from the gun after firing full auto.

Did the British EM2 Bullpup have any input in this direction? (Matthew Moss). It would seem the bolt drop is useful for select fire.

No. While there is a similar concept with the magazine release, they are nothing alike.

Did the LA K12 Puma (based on the QBZ-95) have any input in the direction? (Paladin)

No.

What is the maintenance like for this weapon? Can it be done by the end user? i.e. How much more complex are the internals? How will the manual of arms differ? (Edward Franklin)

The maintenance is not much more complex than normal. There are some additional bits above the magazine well that will need occasional defouling using your preferred method. Again, the manual of arms can still be followed (with the exception that the bolt will lock back without needing to engage a bolt catch).

Will this lead to a reduction in the need for “skills” training since the gun does it for you? (Bill)

The only real difference is that you won’t have to slam your gun to the ground, stand on it, curse, and bang on bits to clear a double feed (okay, maybe that is a slight exaggeration). Oh, and you don’t have to manually engage the bolt catch. Otherwise practice, practice, practice.

How will the CARS fit into the California AWB? Specifically the bullet button? (Michael Zeleny)

It would have to be a “featureless” implementation.

How much does this rifle weigh? (Evan). What are the overall specs?

A little over 7 lbs with the “proof” carbon fiber barrel. That is the only spec they have nailed down right now. To paraphrase a line from GORUCK, it is the size and shape of a rifle, and weighs what a rifle should weigh.

What safety measures are in place regarding dropping the bolt and accidentally firing? Does the Forward assist have a place on the full auto version of this? (Jerry Young)

Same safety as a regular BCG. There is no difference in how the bolt interfaces with the round. There will be a forward assist in the select fire and non-competition versions. Basically you can use any upper with the C.A.R.S.

What are the combat applications for this rifle? (Kefefs)

Same as you would have for a normal AR. The difference with this rifle is that malfunctions are a whole lot easier to clear, and you can get “back in the game” faster with regards to running the magazine dry and reloading. There are plans for a “black rifle” version and SBR options.

Technical Specifications

There are currently not many technical details as they are still finalizing components. Things they are pretty sure about:

  • Carbon fiber barrel on the “competition” model
  • All furniture is billet aluminum
  • The forward hand guard is MLOK
  • Variable buffer system
  • Adjustable gas block
  • AR Gold Trigger
  • Adjustable stock will feature user settable length and comb height
  • Optional ambidextrous safety
  • Quick detach mount points
  • And, uh, it chambers .223…

Their overarching focus is on reliability of the platform, and their commitment to using high end components and manufacturing to tight tolerances is evident. I have no doubt that they will resolve the minor issues that we experienced.

Conclusions

In my opinion, they have once again done a stellar job with engineering and well-thought out design. For the “beta” release that we demo’d this rifle was uh-maze-ing. That said, once it hits the market, it is still not going to be for everyone. If you are the type that wants a budget, bare-bones rifle, Cobalt Kinetics may not be for you.

Buttstock pic...

Fixed stock semi auto.

On the other hand, if you want a super distinctive rifle, that not only has the looks, but also has some interesting, and pretty impressive, design changes, I would recommend giving them a try. If you are interested in features that increase the overall reliability of operation, speed of operations, and ability to deal with malfunctions, I would recommend giving them a try. And if you encounter one in the wild, give it try–it is something you need to fondle to understand and fully appreciate, methinks.

While the platform still has a couple of minor issues to work out (mainly with regard to the loose tolerances in the manufacturing of common magazines), I think they are well on their way to a platform that actually does change the AR platform for the better. Their design philosophy and engineering philosophy is also important—they are very agile in implementation and willing to take design risks.

In a world where the newest innovation is a change to the color of your polymer, Cobalt Kinetics stands out as a company willing to try something new to bring a better product to the market.

One other thing to note: they did mention that there are going to be some super “secret squirrel” things that they will also be bringing to SHOT this year (that were not ready for this demonstration). Stay tuned to see what else their engineering elves have created…

You can follow their Instagram account to see more pics and videos: https://www.instagram.com/cobaltkinetics/



Tom is a former Navy Corpsman that spent some time bumbling around the deserts of Iraq with a Marine Recon unit, kicking in tent flaps and harassing sheep. Prior to that he was a paramedic somewhere in DFW, also doing some Executive Protection work between shifts. Now that those exciting days are behind him, he has embraced his inner “Warrior Hippie” and assaults 14er in his sandals and beard, or engages in rucking adventure challenges while consuming craft beer. To fund these adventures, he writes medical software and builds websites and mobile apps. His latest venture is as one of the founders of IronSights.com; a search engine for all things gun related. He hopes that his posts will help you find solid gear that will survive whatever you can throw at it–he is known (in certain circles) for his curse…ahem, ability…to find the breaking point of anything.


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  • No full length top rail. Out of all the rails that get used, the top rail is going to get the most use.

    In addition to iron sights, and optics often people put IR lasers and tape switches.

    • Art

      There’s a little bit at the end for a front sight. And since this is really intended to be a race gun, I doubt people would be looking to mount much in the way of IR lasers.

      • The article mentions that unlike their normal rifles these are aimed at non-competition purposes. Why else would they spend so much time on things that competitors consider lower priority, like one handed double feed clearance, and bolt releases.

        • Doc Rader

          Perhaps I wasn’t as clear on that point. They have a “competition” version, and will have a “utilitarian” version to follow.

          The ability to clear one-handed is a benefit of the system, not the reason for the system. I’d argue that being able to shave off some time by reducing the number of manipulations would be a benefit in competition (like not having to hit the bolt release, etc)

          • If you are using the bolt release in competition you’ve already failed. Running dry is considered a major screw up.

          • Doc Rader

            Really? That is a new one on me. Have you never run a course where there was a forced magazine change (start with 2 rounds in the rifle, etc.)?

            And most of the competitors I know have their round counts dead perfect on known courses. Especially with regard to shotgun.

          • No, they are pretty rare around here. Sometimes there are forced reloads, but rarely restricted capacity at the matches I’ve been shooting.

            Shotgun is a whole different ballgame, but the same thing applies, unless you planned it if you gun dry you’ve screwed up.

          • Keith G

            Running dry is something that can be planned and with all three guns in competition. It is defiantly an advantage with the shotgun because dumping it empty is preferred to trying to get the small safety on and winding up getting DQed when it isn’t on.

          • Honestly the more I read into it, these seem less like even competition rifles, and more like Costa ARs.

            All flash with features that aren’t suited for a defensive rifle, as they don’t have the things that a solid defensive shooter wants (like the forward assist and full length top rail). Nor do they go whole hog and build a rifle that competition shooters want (with adjustable gas systems, and lightened bolt carriers).

          • Doc Rader

            It does have an adjustable gas system. They have consulted with a number of competition shooters (and Keith Garcia is one of the people providing direction; I would say he has some credibility).

            I would argue that there are a number of things that are personal preference for all shooters, and if a rifle doesn’t have features you want, then you just don’t buy it (or you buy it and tweak it to your liking). That doesn’t mean the features don’t serve a purpose–they just don’t serve *your* purpose… 🙂

            And WTH is a “Costa AR”?

          • Costa AR, I defined it all flash, stylish design, and questionable “features.” They sell for ridiculous sums of money, and rarely see the outside of the safe.

            It has nothing to do with not have features I want. It seems everyday we have another announcement of the “next evolution” of the AR-15. Where are most of those evolutions? Mostly on rifles not really suited for any particular use, and end up going no where.

            Instead of deciding to build a solid rifle they spend time on useless stuff. I look at that design all I see is machine time, lots and lots of machine time with no benefit beyond cosmetics. On top of that it is a 7lbs rifle in a world that is going the other way on weight.

          • Cobalt Kinetics

            We consulted with four of the top professional 3 gunners in the country. Their input drove a lot of the design. Like Doc mentions below we do have an adjustable gas block and our buffer system allows you to tune your rifle to any bolt carrier group. We currently use a tool craft titanium carrier group.

            Im sorry if the website was hard to navigate. If you click on each rifle you will see a lot of options inside of each model line. We offer a lot of customization straight from the factory.

            Did you like our swag?

    • Doc Rader

      You can mount as much rail as you want on the MLOK… 🙂

      • Not along the top rail, there are no mlok slots there. And on the rails that have done top M-loks the rail section rarely are even with the top rail, which can be an issue with lasers.

        • Doc Rader

          Valid. That said, they are machining the parts so I don’t think it would a challenge to cut the M-LOK slots, and to set the tolerances so they will line up.

          • BattleshipGrey

            Just to clarify, even though they’d be M-lok rails on top, there wouldn’t be any issues with loss of zero (for lasers or BUIS)?

        • Redfoot

          My ALG defense M-Lok rail (specifically for the the top rail) works just fine.

    • Cobalt Kinetics

      We consulted with some of the top 3gunners in the country and built this handguard from their input. We do offer two other handguard options one has M-Lok on top and the other has Key-Mod.

  • Evan

    These new “features” seem more like bugs to me. I don’t do three-gun, I learned the AR platform in the Marine Corps, and an automatic magazine drop sounds like a horrible thing that makes mag retention next to impossible and only shaves a fraction of a second off reloads. To me, that’s worse than useless. Also, why on earth would anyone build an AR with no forward assist? The AR charging handle can’t send the bolt home, if for whatever reason it gets stuck, the forward assist is a quick tap instead of a major problem on your hands. Leaving it off is form over function, there is zero good reason not to have one.

    • Doc Rader

      There are some compelling arguments against having a forward assist–namely “if a round won’t chamber, something is wrong, and forcing the issue with the forward assist could further complicate the problem”.

      That said it doesn’t hurt to have one.

      And as I stated in the article there will be versions with the FA in place, and you can put other uppers on the C.A.R.S. enabled lower.

      • Spencerhut

        Crud! I’ve used a forward assist MANY time to good effect on and off the job in the Marine Corps.

      • Evan

        The CARS enabled lower is the biggest problem. I want to be able to retain my mags. Dropping them automatically gives literally no advantage over pulling them out and retaining them, which doesn’t take much time at all with proper training.

        • asd

          Why do you want to hold on to an empty mag?

          • Evan

            Because it can be reloaded. You don’t just throw away your gear. If you need ammo resupply in the field, you get boxes of stripper clips, not full magazines. Empty mags don’t weigh anything and you’ll need them in the future.

          • Josh Callejas

            Yes but this wasn’t designed for military use. Competition shooters can calmly go and pick up their dropped mags after the stage is done. Also it could help the inexperienced in a defensive situation. Seasoned AR shooters can feel the gun “talk” to them and feel the bolt lock back when it runs dry, but newbie shooters can’t. The auto eject is a super clear indication that you’re empty, just like a Garand. You won’t be sitting there wondering for a split second why your gun went click.

          • Evan

            Please, the first time I shot an AR I could immediately tell when it was empty. And it isn’t like some new shooter is gonna shell out all the money for this thing, which I guarantee is gonna be expensive, rather than buy a Smith & Wesson or something.

            Rifles designed for competition are ridiculous in my book. If shooting competitions are supposed to test one’s skill with weapons, then use weapons. This thing is a baseball glove, not a sword.

          • JoshCalle

            I feel you, but it’s like this: everyday I drive an ’08 civic. It’s not flashy, but it’s dependable and works, Just like my bone stock Colt. However, if my only car was a Ferrari, then I would still use that to commute to my job, and it would be a little ridiculous, but it would still work.

          • Evan

            We’re not talking about a Ferrari here, we’re talking about one of those drag race cars. Very good at one specific thing, but designed in a specific way that makes it worse than useless for commuting.

    • Cobalt Kinetics

      First of all thank you for your service!

      This particular build was directed slightly more at competition.We do have a slightly different version we are working on for the military/law enforcement personal. The tactical model likely will have a forward assist and will be offered in different barrel lengths. We really haven’t taken away any features you have grown to love; a tactical reload is still completed the same way.

      C.A.R.S. improves your ability to stay in the fight and get back into the fight faster by increasing your reload times. Features such as the buffer system and compensator allow it to stay on target and provides faster more accurate follow up shots.

      • Evan

        I still have a serious issue with any system that drops the mag. This is a gadget intended to replace proper training in quick reloads; and it eliminates magazine retention, which I consider important. To extract an empty mag, drop it in a retention pouch, grab a fresh one, and slam it home takes less than two seconds. CARS seems to me like an answer to a question nobody asked, and would be a deal breaker for me on any rifle, unless they start making ammo in pre-loaded disposable magazines.

        • Cobalt Kinetics

          We are aware this rifle isn’t for everyone.

          C.A.R.S. doesn’t remove any thing you already learned only enhances your already existing skills. We know training is the key to success wether your a competitive shooter or an operator. We also know you don’t always get to decide when the mag will run dry, sometimes the fire fight decides that for us. If that happens(god forbid) then a reload that takes half the time with the same motor skills can’t be a bad thing.

          • Evan

            It’s a bad thing that I can’t retain my magazine. I’ll easily trade an extra half second or so in reload time for keeping my mag so I can use it again. I don’t like throwing away good gear, and that’s what CARS does; it throws away a perfectly good magazine to shave a negligible amount of time off a reload.

            If you want to build a rifle for someone like me, here’s the features I want:
            -gas piston operation
            -picatinny rails at 12, 3, 6, and 9 out of the box
            – an adjustable buttstock that’s solid enough to hit someone with
            -absolute reliability under adverse conditions (sand, etc)
            -sub MOA accuracy (or as close as possible)
            -ruggedness. I want a rifle that I can put in a room with a dozen bored Marines and a sledgehammer that will be in working order an hour later.
            -fully ambidextrous controls
            -a suppressor ready muzzle device

            Any other features are superfluous, and I find the automatic mag drop actively harmful. The mag automatically sending the bolt home sounds interesting, but automatically dropping the empty is a deal breaker.

          • Doc Rader

            Heh. With the exception of the piston driven system, I think you just completely described their upcoming “defensive/tactical” model. Which is basically a suppressor ready BAMF.

            And FWIW, as I stated in the article, there is an option to disable the automatic functionality of the C.A.R.S.

          • Evan

            Don’t care if you can disable it, I don’t want it there at all. If they put a piston in the rifle you’re talking about and remove the CARS, I’d buy that in an instant.

          • Sam

            It sounds like you don’t do any competition. Worrying about retaining your magazines in competition is utterly pointless and will cost you all sorts of time. So, if you ever start competing, you may want to lose that aspect of your shooting habits… unless you like losing. This rifle is geared towards competition, and complaining that it has features geared towards exactly that is kinda silly.

            And if you like piston rifles, you should look at PWS.

  • Riot

    Looks like someone trying to make the m16 fit into a nineties anime

    • Southpaw89

      Or the latest C.O.D. game

  • Keith G

    Just to clarify. The gun you see in this post is a competition model. It shoots very fast, accurate and efficient. The components and controls will make it a great competition gun. The models geared toward defensive purposes will be different: Carbine length, collapsible stock and different rails. The guns are in development now. They may even have a forward assist. The defensive guns will have unique capabilities and controls geared toward making them more efficient to the end user.

  • BattleshipGrey

    I’d just like to say that I’m very impressed by the mechanics of the rifle. I’m not an engineer but I can appreciate such things. That said though, I won’t be buying one of these; partially because of the extra engineering. It seems too much to learn for one variant platform and I’m not sure there’s enough benefit to justify the cost, which is the other part of why I won’t be buying it (even though I’ve seen no MSRP). Thanks for the write up and the vids.

    • Doc Rader

      Technically it is *less* to learn… 🙂

      • BattleshipGrey

        Haha, yes in a sense. It’s probably more UNlearning to do, and also building trust that it’s going to do what’s supposed to do, and learning not to interfere with it’s functions and learning to flow with it.

    • Cobalt Kinetics

      Thank you for the engineering compliment! We consulted with a lot of shooters in various formats and the design of the new functions comes from things they wished there gun would do.

  • Winter

    I’d still stick to my Colt LE6920 if the SHTF but I’d buy one if I had the disposable income just because it looks like I could use it in outer space.

    • Paul Epstein

      Most guns will fire in outer space, but the gas system will probably need adjustment and it’s rather difficult to compensate for drop. If you are going to regularly shoot objects in space you should probably ask NASA for advice on the matter.

      • Bill

        Ask the Russians – they had plans (Unknown if it flew or not) to mount a small cannon in one of their space stations to destroy Western satellites.

        • Porty1119

          They did, and it did. Likely an NR-23.

        • Raven

          Not to mention that they very nearly had a functional orbital laser platform. Of course, Soviet hasty engineering caused it to fail (a bad inertial guidance system caused it to spin around and reenter the atmosphere instead of transferring to orbit), but they came closer than SDI did to having it.

      • Kivaari

        Many years ago an astronaut did an article about firing a rifle in space. It may have been in the American Rifleman. ~30 years back. I don’t remember any more than having seen it and read it.

      • Joshua

        You also need a way to combat the recoils and forces. With no gravity in space you will be forced rearward and caused to rotate with modern rifles.

    • Kivaari

      Me too. Adding extra features just increases your odds of failure.

  • DW

    People pls, don’t be too quick to bash the rifle. Think of those disabled vets: low enough recoil to hold with one hand, automatic magazine eject& automatic chambering, one-hand malfunction clearing are all godsend.

    • Bill

      I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not; most of the disabled vets I know are working hard to put food on the table and aren’t going to spend the equivalent of a used small car on a race gun.

  • Dan

    Classic case of haters gonna hate. I honestly don’t understand why manufacturers try anymore. Don’t do anything people complain that everything is stale, try something different people complain because they don’t like it. “This competition gun is a sh!tty defensive rifle” Yep and Ferraris suck when you take them off road. Noone is holding the fancy gun to your head forcing you to buy it. Just breathe…. breathe in……..breathe out…….. Plenty of other rifles out there you can buy for your needs.
    Edit* I will admit to being a hypocrit as I complain on Iraqiveteran888 whatever videos. Breathe in…..breathe out.. …

  • stephen

    hmmm… No thanks. I don’t see anything in the new features that would make me buy one. Rather just stick with a regular AR. I imagine the price point will be high and the return seems limited, but that is just me.

    • Cobalt Kinetics

      Do you buy your AR for tactical, competition, or self defense? Just wondering what type of return your looking for in a rifle.

  • Joshua

    Hey guys, lets take something super simple, and make it complex because pushing 2 buttons that are right where they need to be is hard.

    I also laugh at the whole “oh I’m injured and my left arm is no longer functional, let me keep fighting one armed”. From what I have seen soldiers don’t do this. If your left arm has taken enough damage to be of no use, you won’t be running from cover to cover engaging in firefights.

    • Cobalt Kinetics

      We hope that none of our military or law enforcement are ever in this situation but since they often are this is part of their training. Sometimes even when your hit you have to stay in the fight.

      The new system is actually very simple and we didn’t remove any of the current functions only improved them. What it does do is take a magazine change from 2 or 3 seconds to 1 or less. When the fight is on even hundredths of seconds can mean life or death.

      We do know its not for everyone, and appreciate all input.

    • Keith G

      This is possibly the most ignorant comment of all the haters who don’t like change. Are you serious? If injuried you think military and law enforcement officers call a time out or just run away? By your logic there’s no need to train to shoot your pistol with the non-dominate hand, right? I mean if your strong hand is out then the fight is over?? Good lord

      • Joshua

        Have you spent much time in the military and seen how soldiers respond to loss of limbs?

        • Keith G

          I said injuried and you jumped to loss of limb to support your argument. There are lots of things that fall short of losing a limb that will compromise your ability to fight.

          • Joshua

            And I said, before you called me ignorant that if a soldier has an injured arm in suh a way that they lose all functionality of said limb, they won’t be fighting.

            I’ve seen some soldiers persevere through incredible damage, but I have never seen a soldier with a unfunctioning arm continue to fight.

            How many combat injuries resulting in 100% loss of function of an arm have you seen people continue fighting through?

            Soldiers injured in such a way are usually quickly being looked at my medics and you can’t fight which a medic is ripping your shirt open and trying to keep you from bleeding out and to save your limb.

          • Keith G

            Once again you frame the argument to support your position “100%” loss of function. I’ll agree with you if there is a loss of limb the ability to fight would be very rare if at all. But your earlier statement was broad sweeping about “injuries” and not being able to fight. Wouldn’t you agree a less severe injury to a hand or elbow could compromise use but not knock the operator out of the fight?

          • Joshua

            You read what I said wrong.

            I said “oh I’m injured and my left arm is no longer functional, let me keep fighting one armed”.

            Key word phrase is NO LONGER FUNCTIONAL.

  • NewMan

    The only thing that I like about the design is how beefy the buffer tube and where it connected to – this is one of the weakest part of the AR design – the buffer tube.

  • Thomas Gomez

    I would love an hour or two on the range with that rifle.

    • Cobalt Kinetics

      Just an hour or two? Thats going to barely scratch the itch. 🙂

  • BrandonAKsALot

    It’s a pretty well thought out design and I like it. Not enough to pay what it will cost, but I do like it. I put together an AR not long ago and a big focus was cutting weight and this thing offers a lot out of the box I had to do myself or end up getting a specialty part for. Everyone can argue until their blue in the face, but I hate forward assists and I’d prefer to never see one again. I basically removed everything but the actual button on mine, so it’s non-functional. I’m not going to be taking my AR into the s***, so I will never have the even most remote chance I’ll need it.

    I also like the lack of full length top rail. It’s useless space for me personally. There are accommodations for irons or a dot/compact sight and that’s all anyone would likely put on something like this. I think this is going in a cool direction and hope they keep up their work.

  • Lance

    Ugliest AR ever! Another fancy tacti cool race gun…… YAWN!!!!!!!!!!

  • PL

    Company makes traditional AR: “Boooo! another clone of AR!”
    Company tries something new: “Why the did this? They should stick with this or that!” etc.

    • Alexandru Ianu

      Yup. If you build something you have to know to selectively ignore complaints, because most people don’t understand not being the target audience.

  • DR1579

    I really can’t imagine a situation where I don’t want to be in control of when my bolt closes.
    That right there would totally kill this for me. No way do I want the gun to automatically chamber a round just because I put in a fresh mag.

  • Southpaw89

    Well, to be fair the reload system isn’t exactly new, thanks to Forgotten Weapons I am aware that one or more handguns tried this around 100 years ago. But the system is interesting and I hope it succeeds, if only because it is one of the new AR systems that actually has anything different about it.

    • Cobalt Kinetics

      Thank you! We know things are not always accepted quickly. Keep your eyes on us we have only scratched the surface of what we are capable of.

  • Squirreltakular

    I don’t like the auto bolt drop or mag drop, or the lack of a FA, and I would never use this for defense, but I realize that it’s a race gun, and a damn sexy one at that. Give me one in white with gold accents and a matching white acog and I’ll gladly hang it over my mantlepiece.

    Good to see companies innovating. Very cool product, guys.

    • Cobalt Kinetics

      Thank you! We do custom colors so we would be happy to do a white for you. It will look glorious above the mantle.

  • Matt Shermer

    Is the 28 round magazine limit for the rifle to function properly a suggestion or a demand?

  • Treiz

    Love it! So long as I can get the regular model with out the fail button on the side too I’m interested.