Libyan illicit arms Facebook Group

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I came across this on accident, but there is a Facebook Group, based in Libya that is completely centered around the illicit small arms trade in that country. There is nothing surprising about the huge trade of illicit small arms in war torn countries, but the absolutely blatant exist of such a group is what really got me. The group has almost 9,000 members and is completely public on Facebook, not even secret or a members only section, just all out there for the world to see. It is almost as if Lord of War has entered the social media age in the form of online buying and selling. Everything from rare FN FALs and suppressed Beretta Model 70s, to complete rocket launcher systems and RPGs are sale. The posts read exactly like many of the legal and local firearms selling groups in the United States that I am apart. From places of sale, negotiable prices, bump posts, and reposts of items not sold. Except that potential customers are clamoring for M240s or Benelli M4s instead of Remington 700s or mint 1911s. I find it to be an extremely fascinating look into just what is out there on illicit small arms trade in other countries, almost a case study just by scrolling through all the for sale posts. I’ll attach some of the more interesting stuff I saw on it, but anyone with a Facebook account can log on and see every post in its entirety. If you can’t read Arabic, use google translate to work through the whole thing, and you’ll get a pretty good gist of what is being said.

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Miles V

Former Infantry Marine, and currently studying at Indiana University. I’ve written for Small Arms Review and Small Arms Defense Journal, and have had a teenie tiny photo that appeared in GQ. Specifically, I’m very interested in small arms history, development, and Military/LE usage within the Middle East, and Central Asia.

If you want to reach out, let me know about an error I’ve made, something I can add to the post, or just talk guns and how much Grunts love naps, hit me up at miles@tfb.tv


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  • Some Guy

    >that feel when Libyans have more .22lr than you do

  • Harrison Jones

    $4,700 for the hi power.

    AKs seemed to go for $1800.

    Used canik $3200.

    $3600 for the Benelli.

    These are prices in USD. WOW

    • I mean, you could just kill them and take the guns. It’s the black market in Libya, it’s probably a common enough occurrence. :^)

      • Giolli Joker

        Remember they’re the ones with more guns.

      • iksnilol

        Killing a gun dealer?

        Have you tried killing the gun store guys in GTA? Do that without any body or plot armor.

        • I lot of these guys look like random North Africans in track suits smoking unfiltered Camels who found some rifle lying on the ground during the war, if their average houses are anything to go by.

          Nah, I was just being cheeky anyway.

    • Ken

      How much for that MILAN or the F1 grenade?

      • Harrison Jones

        No Idea. I just took the prices I saw and put them in a currency converter. Dinar to USD.

    • Kyle

      I spent 1300$ on my Benelli M4. Best deal I have ever had on anything.

    • Bill

      That can’t be right. In Somalia two donkeys and half a pound of khat will get you an AK and a crate of ammo

    • Josh

      If the AK has a fun switch…. worth every penny.

      • iksnilol

        Uh, why’d you buy an AK from the black market if it wasn’t full auto?

        • Riot

          If you are arming complete idiots?

          • iksnilol

            Yeah, but I meant why’d you get a semi-auto only AK if you’re shopping the black market? I mean, FA AKs probably outnumber semi auto only AKs by like 10 to 1.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    How much for the grenade?
    I got this neighbor who likes to mow his lawn at like 7:00 am on Saturdays.

    • Kyle

      As a guy who lived in apartments for a while I either slept through their law mowing or woke up and smiled since I didn’t have to do it.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I’d still like to rig that grenade to the starter on his riding mower.

        • Tassiebush

          I’m a considerate neighbour since I hardly ever mow mine

          • iksnilol

            I don’t want to be the stereotypical Eastern European but are wallabies good eating?

            Also, most people don’t mind mowing. Just don’t mow it more than once a week. If you do that people will hate you for it. I’ve got a neighbour that mows the lawn 2-3 times a week during the summer.

          • Tassiebush

            Yeah they are actually although my preference is for the younger animals which are less gamey tasting. Biggest issue is that they have a lot of sinews which it pays to carefully cut off before cooking. I mainly use it in making bolognaise.

          • Tassiebush

            I just got told someone saw a big tiger snake in my front yard a few days ago. Might be time to be a bit more diligent in the task of mowing.

          • Goody

            One of the neighbours came up and said they had a snake in their yard – the subtext was clearly “So uh you should probably mow that nature reserve you got going”

            I’ve been working too hard at work lately to work hard at home.

          • Tassiebush

            Totally know that feeling. It’s a hectic time of year. With my spare time do I a) spend time with the kids b)go shooting, c) go fishing d)watch or read something interesting e) have a root or f) get a headache and sunburn to make it look like they’d like it look, with a modest chance that it’ll be less appealing to snakes all while completely ruining the post apocalyptic garden theme with great crop of dandelions, plantains, blackberries and wild brassicas 😉

          • Simcha M.

            I thought you were Norwegian, no??

          • iksnilol

            Live in Norway but not Norwegian.

          • Simcha M.

            Aha. Tak.

  • BRB, Libya.

  • Lance

    Awesome pics. I do know that Beretta 92 is not a Beretta looks like a Helwan 920. Seems Egypt is backing some groups in Libya. Nice to see that all those AK-103s Russia sold to Qaddafi didn’t all go to ISIS in Syria after his downfall.

    • Anonymoose

      I’m sure some of them did, along with the F2000s Belgium sold him, because all the rebel groups in the entire Arab Spring movement are all connected somehow.

    • Al

      It’s not the Helwan 920, those have the safety on the slide. It’s an early Taurus 92.

  • Anonymoose

    What’s with that weird shortened AK? Looks like a pistol gas system with a carbine (104) barrel or something.

    • Riot

      It’s a simple chop job.

      • iksnilol

        Why’d I think of hot rodders when you mentioned a chop job?

        • Riot

          You’re the wrong type of high-speed low-drag operator?

          • iksnilol

            Maybe? I am not even an operator.

            Closest to operating I get is operating a laptop, a car and various hand tools (including rifles).

  • john huscio

    I’m guessing the USP is next to useless……doubt there’s a steady supply of .40sw in Libya……

    • RocketScientist

      If you scroll down far enough there’s some guy selling a few boxes of what looks like UMC .40 ammo.

    • SP mclaughlin

      I guess they could get a gunsmith to retool it for 9mm. Questionably safe at the least though.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    The shotgun laying on a pile of old pizza boxes reminds me of my first apartment.

    • Bill

      When I’m selling a gun, I put it on a pile of empty beer cans and use unwrapped prophylactics as pointers to special features.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        That was you?
        It took me forever to get all the Astro Glide off the Tec 9 you sold me.

        • Tassiebush

          Cripes! You’d want to look before you sit down with one of those around!

    • iksnilol

      It’s actually a good joke. He wrote something to the likes of “A classic Italian meal with a classic Italian weapon”.

    • datimes

      You stole my comment. Pizza in Libya?

  • mosinman

    I want that DP-28

    • Tassiebush

      I have the videos for DP1,2&3 and the DVDs for 4-7 but did not realize it was up to number 28!
      OK now trying to be sensible I totally want it too!

  • Zachary marrs

    “accident” Riiiiiiiggghhhgttt

  • Giolli Joker

    And now the browser history of Mr Vining is officially in the gov’t watch list. 🙂

    • lurpy

      And also all of us.

  • UCSPanther

    If I could, I would give that Bren (Or ZB 26) a good home…

  • Bal256

    Because of the lack of originality of new gun companies, for a second I though “Illicit Arms” was a me too company selling yet another relabelled AR-15.

    PS: There is an actual company called “Black Market Arms”.

    • iksnilol

      I hate it when companies and things have so generic names. Because it makes it hard to search for one or the other (depending on what’s more popular).

  • adicontakt .

    psl magazines, PSL and the most interesting ZB , ww2 era

  • john huscio

    Blame the feds

    • Hensley Beuron Garlington

      Oh, I do, and the sorry people who have given them the power they have now throughout the years.

  • guest

    Much democractic values. So non-dictatorship. Many moderate islamism. Wow!

  • lurpy

    Scary stuff.

  • Kurt Akemann

    It’s fitting that an article like this posted this week have a picture of a Sterling SMG. Needs to lose the camo cloth to pass as a Stormtrooper’s weapon, though.

    /Stay on Target!

  • lbeacham

    For Gods sake, don’t let our surplus Garand’s, originally supplied to allied forces, find their way back to legal American collectors.

  • rt66paul

    Why are these “illicit small arms”? Is there any law in Libya against owning and selling these firearms? I agree that I would not want to live in thier society, not so much becuse of the guns, but the attitudes of the population.
    The prices of the guns just show how important they are when society collapses.

  • Larry Wilson

    Winchester Wildcat? Hmmmmmm I don’t like the stuff here either! 😉

  • Evan

    Is that a Bren? That’s just about the top gun on my dream list, and has been ever since I saw Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels

  • Robert V Martin

    More power to them. Go Libyan arms merchants! Nice P-35!
    …..RVM45

  • Martin Frank

    Can i get that dp-28 here with free 2 day shipping from warazon prime?

  • Simcha M.

    That Sterling with the camo cloth was the epitome of cool! The Century Arms semi-auto Sterling sitting in my safe can’t compare!