Testing G2 R.I.P., Liberty Civil Defense, Inceptor, and Lehigh Defense Rounds – Part 5 – Drywall

Defense Rounds 2

Background

This is a six part series of which this is PART 5.  (you can find links to the rest of the parts at the end of this article).

Thomas Gomez and I were approached about doing a test shoot of four different defense rounds:

The company that made the request, strangely, was not a manufacturer–it was Clark Armory.  They were interested in having TFB perform an independent review (though pseudo-scientific as we will explain later) of some of the defense rounds that they sell.   Of course we accepted.

Disclosure: They did not pay for this review though they did send us two boxes of each of the four rounds, two ballistic gels from Clear Ballistics (and the necessary stuff to reset the gels for reuse).  All of the other materials we provided along with nine range trips, and the countless hours Thomas Gomez spent melting and resetting the gels.

Session 7, Lehigh Defense and Inceptor, Drywall

Drywall 3

While we had discussed staging the test in my house, ultimately we decided that my wife would not approve (even though it could have been good segway into removing a wall for that “open room” concept that seems to be the rage today).  And with the penetration performance of the Lehigh, definitely not worth it to annoy the neighbors.  You all know we are kidding, right?  🙂

So what we REALLY did was create a small section of wall, 2”x4”s spaced on 16 inches, with some waste drywall we were able to recover from Home Depot (this was mentioned in the first part of this article).  We built two frames and the sections were large enough we could shoot twice on each.

Observations

Drywall - LeHigh

When shot through two pieces of drywall, the Xtreme Penetrator from Lehigh Defense completely penetrated 16 inches of ballistic gel. Starting at 3.5 inches and ending at 11 inches there was a slightly larger wound channel.

Drywall - Inceptor

When shot through two pieces of drywall, the  Polycase Inceptor round slightly deflected changing its trajectory.  Despite this, it still penetrated 11.2 inches though it exited the ballistic gel. This round probably would have penetrated more than 12 inches of ballistic gel had it maintained a flat trajectory.

Session 8, R.I.P. and Liberty, Drywall

Drywall - Civil, G2 - 3

Finally.  We have arrived at the last test!  It was definitely fun, but it was pretty time intensive since we were only working with two gels.

We learned from the last session with drywall that we needed some more height on the gel, otherwise we were too low to the bottom of the wall section.  This time we put an individual gel block on a box which gave it enough height.  We measured the center and midpoint of the gel against the wall and got to work.

Observations

Drywall - G2 - 2 Drywall - G2

When shot through two pieces of drywall, the R.I.P round, from G2 Research, penetrated completely through the ballistic gel. The hollow cavity appeared to fill with drywall medium and act as a penetrator type round. After penetrating 5 inches, the round tumbled creating a larger than normal wound cavity. At 10.5 inches the round resumed normal penetration and exited the gel. This round would pass the F.B.I test.

Drywall - Civil - 2

When shot through two pieces of drywall, Civil defense round from Liberty ammunition, penetrated 0.5 inches and fragmented. The round split into dozens of pieces, with one small piece penetrating 8 inches. This round would not pass the F.B.I test.

Articles in Series

Note:  The below links are not immediately live.  Each part will be released a day apart (by Dec 7th all should be available).

Introduction
Session 1 – Bare Gel
Session 2 – Heavy Clothing
Session 3 – Automotive Glass
Session 4 – Drywall
Observations and Conclusion



Tom is a former Navy Corpsman that spent some time bumbling around the deserts of Iraq with a Marine Recon unit, kicking in tent flaps and harassing sheep. Prior to that he was a paramedic somewhere in DFW, also doing some Executive Protection work between shifts. Now that those exciting days are behind him, he has embraced his inner “Warrior Hippie” and assaults 14er in his sandals and beard, or engages in rucking adventure challenges while consuming craft beer. To fund these adventures, he writes medical software and builds websites and mobile apps. His latest venture is as one of the founders of IronSights.com; a search engine for all things gun related. He hopes that his posts will help you find solid gear that will survive whatever you can throw at it–he is known (in certain circles) for his curse…ahem, ability…to find the breaking point of anything.


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  • Sianmink

    I’ve been using permagel, but this may apply to clear ballistics gel as well. So far as I can tell they’re very similar products.
    It’s easy to yellow the stuff if you melt it too quickly, and I’ve found that actually using a full oven is the best way to go. The roaster ovens are nicely field expedient but they will scorch the gel a little bit unless you are extremely gentle and carefully melt the stuff overnight at just barely its melting temp. I have access to a rather precise industrial oven and I just throw the whole mold inside. A household oven should work pretty well (get the wife’s permission!) but I would run it with at least an extra 30-40 lb of fire bricks as thermal ballast.

    • Thomas Gomez

      Hey Sianmink. Thank you for the knowledge transfer. What is your mold made out of? I did not have good luck trying to reform the gel in my oven.

      • Sianmink

        I’ve just been using the roaster oven inserts on their own.

  • So the cliff notes version is that all the gimmick rounds failed basic FBI testing.

    • Jwedel1231

      The G2, the biggest gimmick here, actually passed the test.

      • But failed other portions of the test.

        • Josh d

          No it passed each one.

          • zardoz711

            You mean how the test mediums filled the nose of the round and caused it to fail to perform as advertised?

          • Nathan

            It passed only based on penetration. So, it’s as effective as FMJ. Woo hoo. I have a box of 20 FMJ I’ll sell you for $50. Heck – I’ll sell it half price. Just cause I’m nicer than G2 RIP.

  • Josh d

    I am thoroughly impressed by the g2. When I first saw it I thought gimmick gimmick gimmick. But after everything I’ve read and this test my mind has changed

  • Sam Green

    Glad you took the time to do this, I think you did a pretty decent job testing, and was well worth reading.

    Clark Armory is a good outfit.
    Bought some Polycase .45 Firefly Inceptors (copper/polymer matrix tracers) from them to test when we were kicking the tires of Underwood’s .45+P Xtreme Penetrators.
    Heard lots of mixed reactions with the Penetrators, so we tested them to see first hand how they performed against real world hard objects. I can tell you the Penetrators did a lot better than the Firefly’s, which are neat to shoot, but semi useless in the real world. Still fun though.

    I won’t forget that day of testing the Penetrators, a buddy brought a gigantic tube of ground meat he claimed got tainted. Crazy thing was two feet long and had an OD of 12-15″ I cracked up when he told me it was redneck ballistic gel. It had no markings, just a black unmarked tube, not even sure what animal it was.

    Not a big fan of G2 RIP, but to each their own.