Taurus drop test video

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In the summer of this year we reported about the class action lawsuit that Taurus lost, and was filed by a sheriff in Iowa over some defective conditions of their semi automatic line of handguns. The payout was over millions of dollars. However a video has recently been surfacing of several Taurus handguns in this infamous drop test, and the results don’t look very good. All three of the pistols in the video show significant results in their slides and triggers as a result of being dropped. Some of them the triggers are shown being pushed all the way to the rear, while another has the entire slide racked back enough to extract the round in the chamber. Now the video is in slow motion, so I would be curious as to how similar this would happen with other polymer handguns such as Glocks, M&Ps, and XDs. The biggest difference would be with the trigger bar in all these handguns that I think would prevent the kinds of trigger push that we see in the Taurus video. Either way, I don’t know if this video was used as evidence or involved in the courtroom drama in the summer, but it is certainly a testimony to understanding the drop tests and current Taurus handguns.

Then we also have this video of a Taurus handgun being fired simply by shaking it and it being on safe. However unlike the previous video, this one doesn’t seem to have as much legitimacy, and I would certainly call into question the exact pistol for any modifications on the inside. This isn’t “Shake and Bake”.



Miles V

Former Infantry Marine, and currently studying at Indiana University. I’ve written for Small Arms Review and Small Arms Defense Journal, and have had a teenie tiny photo that appeared in GQ. Specifically, I’m very interested in small arms history, development, and Military/LE usage within the Middle East, and Central Asia.

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  • M.M.D.C.

    Both videos look fake to me, but what do I know. The top video has no sound and only a small amount of muzzle flash while the bottom video has sound but no recoil. Not convinced.

    • Andrew Hobby

      I’m sitting here rewatching it trying to figure out what that light flash is on the first video… if they did add it, why? It seems so… well, bad.

      • Ethan

        It was likely a primed case in the chamber, but not a loaded round.
        That’s the most effective of doing drop test. You know for sure if it would have fired a bullet, but without the nasty side effect of lethal rounds going in unpredictable directions.

    • Trent

      I’m thinking primer only. Must have removed bullet and powder

    • Sianmink

      You don’t need live ammo to do a valid drop test. Just primed brass. It’s a lot safer that way.

      • M.M.D.C.

        Ah, that makes sense.

    • d13

      It’s common testing practice to insert a primed empty cartridge case into the chamber during a drop test. this way you can see if the drop causes the primer to go off. That is likely what the small flash is.

    • Marcus D.

      I rather suspect, as is usually the case in drop testing firearms, that it was an empty case with a hot primer, so all you see is primer flash. This is the only way to be sure that the gun would fir or not fire when dropped; a primer strike may not suffice.

  • Chriss Kyle

    It’s very very dangerous, I will buy M&P 9 for my next handgun, not the Taurus!
    Made in U.S.A is always quality

    • Giolli Joker

      “Made in U.S.A is always quality”
      Well, not really always; we all know a few examples of quality-lacking made in USA products.

      • Andrew

        Here’s looking at you, Red Jacket…

        • Rock or Something

          But it’s “Neva been dun befo”…

      • Chriss Kyle

        Oh I know, almost not always

      • SirOliverHumperdink

        Jennings, Raven, Bryco, Stallard, Intratec all/ were sadly made here.

        • Twilight sparkle

          I would trust almost all of them over inter ordinance, Hess, and Vulcan Arms

          • BrandonAKsALot

            Damn, you beat me to IO.

            Let’s not forget Century’s fabulous “Made in the USA” AK’s. My god, the quality. So great. Just THE BEST. BETTER THAN ARSENAL. BETTER THAN ARSENAL. BETTER THAN ARSENAL.

        • Vanns40

          Nothing wrong with Raven or Jennings. I have one of each. Cheap, yes but they fire each time you pull the trigger. The safety’s leave a little to be desired as far as firmly staying in the “on” position if you stick them in your pocket but other than that not a thing wrong with them.

          • town22

            Jennings is now Jimenez out of Las Vegas. I have a .22 in stainless and it always shoot with high velocity rounds.

        • BearSlayer338

          Don’t forget Phoenix,Hi-Point,Jimenez,Lorcin and Haskell.

      • Hank

        That would be a great bumper sticker for an AMC Pacer.

      • Kurt Hargarten

        Those pistols are made in Brazil.

    • Friend of Tibet

      As a kel-tec owner, I disagree…..

      • Chriss Kyle

        What about kel-tec Sub2000 ?

    • Sianmink

      *hands you a Remington R51*

      • Anonymoose

        *hands him a first-gen shrubmaster ACR* CAREFUL WITH THE TRIGGER, THERE, SON. ATF MIGHT BE WATCHIN.

      • Chriss Kyle

        Kel-tec sub 2000, It’s fun

      • Dean Harris

        I’ll stick with my Springfield Armory goodies. I do have one Taurus revolver. The Judge. That one works well.

        • supergun

          I am thinking about purchasing the Judge with the 3 inch chamber and 3 inch barrel. Are the 3 inch 410 buckshot effective 50 – 60 feet? Can I expect the 45 long colt to be accurate up to 60 feet? Thanks for any input.

          • Jon

            I have an 1851 Colt replica with a Kirst .45 conversion cylinder that is dead on at 75 yards, but the 7″ barrel is probably a significantly better sighting plane than da Judge.

          • supergun

            Thank you for the info. It is going to take someone with a judge to give me the info I need. I know the short barrel does not allow all the power to be generated for the 45 long, but everything that I have research indicates that a short barrel does not effect accuracy. I can hit a target in a 4 inch or less area at 60 feet with my Ruger LCR 38 21/2 ” barrel. But the Taurus Judge is a different animal.

          • The Brigadier

            The .45 LC will be and its easily still in the range for a 3″ .410 double aught buckshot shell. It holds 3 .38 caliber pellets. At point blank range both rounds will drop your assailant.

          • supergun

            Thanks Brigadier.

      • town22

        Kel-Tec sub 2000 in 9mm is very accurate 50 and 100 yards. It’s very discrete when folded. A versatile carbine made in Florida USA.

        • Sianmink

          I should have said Kel-Tec pistol or rifle. Their carbines are solid aside from cheap sights and such. I’m also still side-eye on the KSG. I’m not nearly as excited about it as I was when it was introduced.

    • Kim Tate

      Be sure you Check out the safety recall from American made Ruger LCP. Fires when dropped !!

  • Anonymoose

    But if I dropped it down a flight of stairs, would it neutralize all the bad guys in front of me? 😮

    • Giolli Joker

      Only if you have long sexy legs.

      • Paul White

        so hand it to my wife? Got it

    • Kelly Jackson

      Only if it’s a Mac 10 in an 80s movie

      • Rock or Something

        “True Lies” came out in ’94.

        Unless you are talking about another movie with a similar scene that did come out in the ’80s.

    • Chriss Kyle

      It can be good :))

  • TVOrZ6dw

    Wow- New meaning to ‘Shake n Bake’.

  • Andrew

    There’s a reason “friends don’t let friends buy Taurus” is a well known saying in the gun world…

    • SirOliverHumperdink

      I get so tempted, and I’ve have to talk myself out of buying a Taurus.

      • BearSlayer338

        Taurus is actually ok if you don’t buy any of their semi-automatic handguns other than the PT92 and if you stick with their revolvers,I have a 617 .357(7 shot snub nose),Model 44 ported .44 magnum,Night Court Judge .45/.410,and a PT92,none of which have ever failed me and I have at least 1.5k through each of them,I’d trust any one of them more than a Kel-Tec or Charter Arms,and Kel-Tec probably isn’t drop safe either. Also this video looks very fake,the muzzle flash looks like it was edited in.

    • INFI

      Hahaha, I was gonna post that. It really is a true statement.

    • The Brigadier

      Bull squat. I’ll bet that expression was coined by S&W or Ruger.

  • Will

    i have witnessed both Gen one and two Glock 22s and 27s being dropped on the range during training.
    Other than highly increased pucker factors there were no problems. The pistols were picked up, checked bu the department armorer and returned to service within an hour. They did not discharge when dropped and continued in service for several years.

    • dlh0

      Agreed, in over 30 years as an leo rangemaster, instructor and armorer I have seen a trunkload of handguns, rifles and shotguns hit the deck. Not once have I witnessed a case of drop firing. However, all of those cases involved top tier, quality firearms.

  • disqus_hhmIFhbjih

    I have several taurus 1911’s, pt845’s, and 24/7’s and 3 different judges. Never had a problem that was anything near that and I am a 2 decade retired Army Paratrooper.

    • Zebra Dun

      There are lemons in every made product.
      Which is the case here if not actual customer abuse.

      • mooseairborne .

        I agree totally. I have colts, springfields, S&W, etc. and Taurus has performed very well for me. Their customer service has been as good as others and very helpful. I support all manufacturers who support the 2nd amendment and try make a great product. Kel-Tec was very helpful when a part broke on my wife’s pt380. They all make a lemon now and then.

        • Zebra Dun

          I had a friend who had a Taurus M-66 (I think it was a 66 it was years ago) with a six inch barrel he let me run a box of 50 rds through it for fun, he shot my 1911A1 Gov. .45 acp. with 50 rds we had a blast!
          I did not have one malfunction and the accuracy was as good as I could shot it.
          I believe he had that revolver for quite a few years before and still has it today.
          A good one is a good one I would say.

      • mooseairborne .

        My 24-7 has a very stout main spring and I don’t see how the slide would go all the way back like the spring in the video. Seems somewhat fake to me.

      • mooseairborne .

        Guess I just get tired of hearing some people knock a particular brand because they have a personal vendetta. I was hesitant about the Hi-Point 9mm and it was ugly like Glock and cheap, so I bought one and it shot very well. Was actually very accurate and heavy. Now it resides in my tool box on my truck and bought one for a family member some years back. It never failed to feed or fire and has a life warranty.

      • john huscio

        Some produce more lemons than others……in Taurus’s case, an orchard’s worth…

    • Phil Elliott

      Bought a new Taurus 1911, tested same (empty) cocked and locked, it fired without safety off or grip safety being depressed. Taurus after being informed sent me a prepaid shipping container and I had the gun back in 2 weeks repaired and have had no problems since with about 1m rds, thru it.

  • No idea if the videos are legit or not, but the problem certainly was.

    In the recently settled class action lawsuit against Taurus, the complaint laid out information that included details from the 2007 Alabama state court case of Maroney v. Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc., Case No. 07-73 (Ala. Cir. Ct. dismissed 2009). In this jury trial regarding a dropped PT 111 that discharged and hit a man in his “pancreas, spleen, diaphragm, and lungs,” Taurus lost the trial and then settled for an undisclosed amount (hence the dismissal in 2009.)

    There were two interesting things about that case. From the complaint:

    “Specifically, the expert witness for Taurus admitted in the Maroney case that the Taurus Drop Test showed an indent in the primer came from the Firing Pin going forward and striking the primer. In other words, Mr. Hutton admitted that the design of the Firing Pin Block Safety Device does not prevent the Firing Pin from going forward and striking the Firing Pin.” (section 38, p.14 of the complaint)

    and

    “Robert G. Morrison, the CEO for Taurus Manufacturing, testified under oath, to the following in the Maroney trial: “My answer to the question if you are referring to all PT 111s, it is I believe that they can go off if dropped.” ” (section 39, p.14 of the complaint and Exhibit D of the complaint)

    • cgray

      Hey, Officer Bagodonuts, are you going to do a follow-up story on the non-existent CPX-3? Just curious.

      • Are you trying to get yourself banned. Don’t insult TFB writers for no reason and insulting him because of his occupation won’t fly.
        We keep things civil here!

        • cgray

          Well, Officer Bagodonuts doesn’t feel obligated to keep things very “civil” himself. I told the absolute truth about Sccy “Industries” on his little blog, and he then attacked me personally, and then blocked me so I couldn’t respond. Just like the jackbooted Nazi thug he is. If that’s your idea of an ethical writer, then you can have him, and ban away, champ.

        • cgray

          Oh, and P.S.–Exactly how many Golden Retrievers did Officer BAGODONUTS execute and then justify it by saying “Ahh feered fer muh life!!!!”? Asking for a friend.

        • cgray

          It was OFFICER BAGODONUTS who insulted ME first. And I have a very good reason to fight back against this arrogant jackbooted thug. He insulted me for telling the truth about SCCY Industries incompetent and deceitful business practices, and then blocked me so I couldn’t respond. Typical cowardly behavior from a jackbooted thug on a perpetual power trip, and someone who has to wear a government issued costume in order to feel like an actual man. Ban away, sunshine.

          • dlh0

            I think a nap would have been a goid idea. Now to bed early with you.

          • cgray

            “Good”, not “goid”. And now, I’m DEMANDING that you be banned for being “uncivil”. Dumb, too.

          • dlh0

            Whatever, goid luck wid’at.

          • cgray

            YOU ARE OFFICIALLY BANNED. There, that felt good.

  • Nolan

    I really doubt the second video. If it was firing from being shaken then wouldn’t the slide’s movement also set off a round? As it’s only firing a single round I call shenanigans on that one. The first? Scary stuff, and proves that I should not buy a taurus!

  • Vitsaus

    No one buys Taurus because it is the best option, they buy them because the guns are cheap. No amount of bad publicity will hurt their sales because their customer is not concerned with the quality of the product.

  • Thirst_quencheR

    Shaking Taurus + Michael J Fox = Needs $200 NFA tax stamp in the US.

    • Don Ward

      Too soon man, too… Wait a second. *Checks calendar*. No. Nevermind. Michael J Fox Parkinson jokes became officially OK last October. You’re good.

      • Thirst_quencheR

        As someone with a degenerative autoimmune disease and as a former EMT/medic, I can tell you any propriety in my sense of humor was borked many years ago.

    • nadnerbus

      I was already going to hell, so it’s OK for me to laugh at that.

  • Don Ward

    This is useful for those who 1) Steal a Taurus 2) Use it in a commission of a crime 3) Leaves the gun and 4) Takes the cannoli

  • Kivaari

    Don’t worry about Glocks. Unlike some striker fired pistols, the Glock is not cocked and ready for action like XDs, Ravens and similar junk.

    • John Shore

      Glock strikers ARE under spring tension when assembled and in the gun; They are restrained by the striker safety plunger. In effect, Glocks are always half-cocked at rest, making it easier to press the trigger and shortening the trigger travel.

    • ozzallos .

      Glock Leg says that Glocks are always ready to shoot your leg off.

      • Kivaari

        They will only do so if the trigger is fully depressed to the rear. Glocks are not cocked while sitting at rest. Unlike the XD.

      • dlh0

        Glock leg needs one of 2 things to take place first: Poor training or complete disregard of 1 of the 4 safety rules.

  • Dean Harris

    In that one drop test the slide did NOT go far back enough to eject the spent shell casing. Who are you trying to BS?? However from what I’ve seen here I will NOT be buying a Taurus semi auto.

  • Dean Harris

    When it comes to revolvers, it’s a well known safety fact to NOT have a round under the hammer.

    • Only if it’s a 1873 or clone. Modern revolvers are fine loading six rounds.

      • Dean Harris

        Incorrect. The same goes for EVERY revolver made to this day. There is a chance that any revolvers hammer can touch off the primer causing it to fire regardless of what anybody says. It’s common sense.

    • Zebra Dun

      The Ruger Super Black hawk, single action of 1971-73 had no hammer block and it came with a warning not to rest a hammer on a cartridge. Old style firing pin in those revolvers, it clicked three times with each thumb back. They made them with a hammer block after 1973 and they were safe to load six.
      Any revolver made today or with some type of hammer block safety is good to go with six shots.
      My Colt Lawman for instance has a Transfer Bar safety which blocks the firing pin from the cartridge unless the trigger is pulled.

    • dlh0

      Well known ‘fact’ in your world, maybe. I’ve seen 2 s&w revolvers dropped directly on the hammer hard enough to break the thumb spur. As a s&w armorer I am 100% confident in the modern hammer block in name brand firearms.

  • Kim Tate

    Ruger had to recall one of their pistols a couple of years back, because it was firing when dropped. Does that make all Rugers junk? Just A Question.

    • No it doesn’t. Ruger like many companies had a bad run but they made changes and got their act together.

      • Kim Tate

        So did Taurus have a bad run?

  • Marcus D.

    With Taurus, it must depend on the model. The only way for a handgun to make it onto the California roster is to pass rigorous independent lab drop testing, which is conducted from a 14′ height to a concrete floor, with multiple drops so that the gun lands in various angles, from muzzle down to hammer down. These are only some of the tests. The gun must also fire a specified number of rounds without failure and I don’t know what all else. There have been multiple Tauri on the roster, and so they must have passed.
    I bought a Pro model fro my daughter four years ago, and she has never voiced any complaints, and my understanding is that none of those models are part of Taurus’ recall.

    • Cymond

      It depends on when they were added to the list. They keep raising the requirements to get onto the list. At this point, no company in the world makes a handgun that could be added to the list.

      Of course, Taurus quality varies from one model to another, and if I remember right, CA only tests 3 of each gun model. Some Taurus are fine, others seem to be assembled at 4:00 on a Friday.

      • Marcus D.

        Not for drop testing, which has been a required test since the roster was enacted effective January 1, 1191 (if memory serves). The added requirements were the LCI, then the mag lockout, the manual external safety (which has to be a switch and not a 1911 style grip safety) and finally microstamping. Old guns are kept on the list (grandfathered) as long as the manufacturer wants, and are not retested on renewal. Therefore, ALL handguns on the Roster are drop safe. (In theory.)

        And I thought it was the guns/cars assembled Monday morning that were the worst….

        • Cymond

          Ah, gotcha. I lived in CA 2011-2014, so I have a general grasp on their laws, but not the history/evolution of them.

          Monday morning makes sense, too.

  • Giolli Joker

    Mp5… even more unlikely….

    • Anon. E Maus

      At least the MAC-10 fires from an open-bolt, it could conceivably fire if dropped, if the bolt is locked back and ready to fire.

  • Kim Tate

    I now understand it was explained to me that when Ruger has to make a recall to one of their pistols it was just a bad run. That is good to know thanks for the comments. I have had people tell me that my Glock 23 will Kaboom could you tell me if that is a bad run also?

    • uisconfruzed

      I’ve had the same G23 (and a G27) for over 10 years, never a problem. It’ll kaboom if you run reloads through it, especially if a rapid powder like AA5. The brass isn’t fully supported at the feed ramp so it shouldn’t be reused. I use a Wolf barrel for practice with my reloads.

      • Kim Tate

        My glock 23 has never had a problem , but neither has any of my Taurus pistols. I am just pointing out that is what has been said on the internet.

        • uisconfruzed

          A friend of mine kaboomed his G23. He was reloading with used brass AND using AA5.

  • Kim Tate

    I am looking at the safety recall from Ruger they are installing a new hammer mechanism in the LCP pistol that allowed the gun to fire when dropped. Also Ruger says any gun can fire if it is carried with a loaded chamber. Per. Ruger not Me!!

    • Jon

      All bets are off if any gun with one in the pipe is dropped. Up in the high country you just gotta weigh the threat whether or not the shell in the chamber is more dangerous that the big kitty in that bush just ahead…or is it in that tree…or in that tall grass over there…or is it behind me…maybe I’ll know when the sun comes up.

  • DL

    Avoid Condition One. With this gun.

  • Leo

    Taurus is crap, waste of money. If no money go get Glock, cheap and will work forever.

  • Wolfgang Oehry

    I wonder if the shaken gun in the video is just a defective one, or do all of these Taurus types do that.

    • Jon

      I don’t know the answer to your question. It is just scary enough that I actually had a 24/7. I never did like the pistol, and I could not hit anything with it. It is long gone now.

  • uisconfruzed

    I’m still happy with my Glocks I’ve been carrying for almost 20 years, never had a single glitch. It looks like I’ll stay that way.

  • supergun

    I just purchased a Taurus Gen 2 Millennium. Love this 9mm. It has a safety in the trigger, plus the manual safety. Do I need to be concerned about this particular pistol. It has great reviews.

  • CJS3

    You guys do realize that Taurus hasn’t made these pistols for quite a few years, right?

    • The Brigadier

      When the SOCOM 2007 pistol procurement was cancelled in 2008 I believe, Taurus stopped making the pistol. They started making one called the “Long Slide” that had a full length slide. It had all the features the 24/7 DSS had and the list was impressive. I don’t know what they call it now. I like the new Para USA model in .45. Significantly more expensive, but its an impressive pistol.

  • oldman

    Not a gun I would care to have in my glove box on a rough road.

  • John Doe

    One thing I notices all most all firearms in these videos are of older type Taurus handguns with out glock type safety put in trigger of there new versions of same handguns sell now. So most case this would happen with newer Taurus version same handguns. I have see much newer test newer version of same Taurus firearms that where test in videos above.

  • Kim Tate

    I would like to point out that Remington had a recall on the model 700 rifles. I love all of my 700 rifles so don’t get mad at me. I point this out for all the people that say they will not buy a pistol that is not made in the USA like the ruger lcp’s that were recalled for firing when dropped .

  • Jason Lewis

    Wow what was that a LED light coming out of the muzzle in the video? The slide doesn’t even go back when the “muzzle flash” occurs. The other one dropped has the slide go back (likely no recoil spring installed with a spent cartridge already in it) no muzzle flash occurs. I’m no Taurus fanboy (I do have one, a .380) but this is bull.

  • Spock

    The infamous video showing a Taurus pistol being shaken and then firing has been examined and found that the pistol was altered. I carry a Glock due to its 3 safeties. One is the drop safety. The Glock is a semi-auto that behaves more like a revolver. It has no traditional semi-auto thumb safety, but it’s ready to fire in the instance that you need it immediately – like a revolver.

    The second video’s written commentary was frustrating to understand. The writer is unable to describe the issue effectively but I got the general idea by following the video. To its credit, the Taurus didn’t fire. That seems to be the point of a drop safety. If I had slo-mo video of my Glock being dropped, I wouldn’t be upset if the slide moved or the trigger fell back. Dropping a weapon creates a significant shock to that firearm.

    The drop test I wager, has been performed exhaustively by many of the companies who produce industry leading pistols. They’d be severely negligent of they hadn’t done so. On the other hand, someone had better be careful making these videos. If they’ve been found by a judge or jury to have injured a company unfairly, such as tampering with the weapon’s safety systems, they could be in some financial trouble.

    Out of the millions of Glocks produced and in the capable hands of trained LEOs and competant civilians, i’ve not read about one instance of that gun firing upon a drop. Keep that in mind.

  • who cares?

    I had a Taurus years ago. One time I pulled the trigger and it shot the whole clip full auto. What a piece of junk.

  • The Brigadier

    Who provided the pistols and were they checked for tampering? I used to own a 24/7 DSS .45 and it never did anything like the one in the second video. I’ll bet they filed the sear so that it holds unless you shake it from side to side like this guy did. Also the drop test is not referenced as to who did it and where the pistol came from. You will be surprised at how many people think they can make a sub machine gun by making changes to a pistols with a hacksaw and files. I sold the Taurus because it was designed for the Socom procurement in ’07, and they wanted a shorter slide .45 ;pistol. The 24/7 DSS was a good contender because it had a $1000 worth of features, but it sold for only $500. Shorter slide .45s have a lot more recoil and I decided to get a long slide .45 instead. Still the features on the 24/7 DSS were numerous and very well executed. Be careful about videos like this one. There are a lot of competitors who don’t like Taurus marketing their pistols for a lot less then they do and they would profit mightily by damaging a major competitor like Taurus. If the Brazilian cops did it imagine how many officers a couple of million of dollars will keep on the payroll. Brazil is officially an economic basket case and the country is teetering on the brink of total economic collapse. Even worse then the economic brink our country is on if that is possible.

  • Glock Guy

    OMG! I’ll never by a Taurus.