New Grand Power Stribog S9 Carbine/SMG

A while back Slovakian gun maker Grand Power were developing a rifle but for some unknown reason the project was cancelled and as far as I know, no prototype was ever made public. Unexpectedly a few days ago the company published photos of a new 9mm carbine that will also be available as a full auto submachine gun.

Not a lot is known about this gun. Looking at the photos we can see an upper and a lower receiver, which is typical of newly designed modern guns. The pistol grip is an AR-15 compatible grip. It uses a standard 9mm Uzi magazine.

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From Mr Kuracina’s facebook page (head designer at Grand Power) via. hyperprapor

The compensator at the front looks to be tuned specifically for the Stribog S9. The full length top rail is flanked on the sides by keymod attachment points for accessories or more rails, a there is a short rail underneath which Grand Power is using with a Magpul AFG.

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The charging handle looks like it can be switched to the other side to make it ambidextrous. The fire control looks like it might be as well.

In this video you can see the CEO of Grand Power shooting the gun on full auto …

Thanks to our friends at magazine for passing on the info, 

Steve Johnson

Founder and Dictator-In-Chief of TFB. A passionate gun owner, a shooting enthusiast and totally tacti-uncool. Favorite first date location: any gun range. Steve can be contacted here.


  • snmp

    Uzi mag = Berretta MAB 38A …. 38/44

    Uzi magazine
    Uzi magazine

    Uzi magazine

  • TheNotoriousIUD


    • MR

      Yes, I better start collecting surplus Uzi mags, now.

  • MR

    Sounds like the charging handle is “customizeable” rather than truely ambidextrous.

  • Devil_Doc

    I’d buy that in the $500-700 range…

    • Kivaari

      Good luck. No US manufacturer and it will hit closer to $2000.

      • iksnilol

        I have my doubts… Grand Power is very affordable.

    • Cal S.

      They know what’s up. It won’t come out under $2000. We’ll just have to bide our time for the next few years until the market is glutted with 9mm SMGs like it is now with ARs. THEN we might see quality guns like this under $1000.

      Otherwise, get a Kel-Tec Sub-2000 that accepts Glock mags for the $400-$500 range and call it a day.

  • mechamaster

    Uh huh… the SCAR in Sub-machinegun format.. ( the charging handle is reciprocating too )
    It’s look the biggest rival is B&T APC-9.

    • The B&T is a ridic amount of $$$$ though, no?

      • mechamaster

        Yes. It’s in premium category.

  • iksnilol

    Would someone please make a pump action 9×19 with generous space around the barrel for an integral suppressor?

    Would be the bees knees for rabbit hunting in Norway you see.

    • MR

      There’s an outfit converting bolt action 22TCMs Armsacor rifles to 9mm. Would probably thread the barrel if you asked nicely. And paid a fee. 🙂

      • iksnilol

        That ain’t no problem. Bolt actions are easy, you can also convert 5.56 rifles to 9mm pretty easily. Problem is getting a pump action.

        • Dracon1201

          I do have an Idea for converting a bolt action to pump. It just depends how much you want to work for it.

          • iksnilol

            Interesting. There’s been a lot of bolt action to semi auto, but haven’t heard about bolt action to pump before.

          • Giolli Joker

            There are pump-action AR-15s around (Troy for example, not the only one). Maybe it could be a starting point, although surely quite expensive.

          • iksnilol

            Pump action AKs too. Have been messing around with the idea of a cheap straight pull in 5.56 or 308 based on a VEPR. Thinking I could bullpup it and then compensate for the reduced length by using a long barrel (60 cm or something). Then cut out the gas tube and add a handle to the bolt there. Could make that semi auto though, because the VEPR is a legal semi auto hunting rifle in Norway. Though keeping it manual action I could use hicap mags for hunting.

            The pump action ARs seem interesting, haven’t seen any in Norway though. Don’t know about their legality due to being ARs.

          • Giolli Joker

            Is the hi-cap mag such a need for your hunting?

          • iksnilol

            Not really, but less legal hassles if it isn’t semi auto. Mainly thinking if I am out of the country. Some countries ban this or that in regards to semi autos. + manual repeaters are easier on the brass. I will most likely reload in the future when I get serious about shooting.

          • Giolli Joker

            And what about a lever action in .38/357?
            There should be quite a few available.

          • Giolli Joker

            There you have it: http://www. luckygunner. com/lounge/suppressed-marlin-1894-357-magnum/

          • Dracon1201

            It’d be a bit intensive, but it would be adaptable for an integrated suppressor.

        • MR

          How about a Remington 7615? .223 pump action, feeds from an AR mag, so you’d have to rig something up, there.

          • iksnilol

            That’s the one I was considering. There’s an aftermarket barrel bracket to make barrel changes easy and consistent. In other words, just rig up a mag solution. + that way I could always return it to its original caliber.

            Is there any way to get pistol mags to work in an AR? Thinking if there is an adapter I would have an easy starting point. The mags I want to use are CZ pistol mags. Due to wanting commonality with the pistol.

    • UCSPanther

      I think there would be a niche for a traditional style pistol caliber carbines in 9mm, 40 SW and .45 ACP., be it semi-auto or a manual repeater.

      • Kivaari

        There used to be. Few really good quality 9mm carbines exist anymore. Ruger last version of the 9PC was a great little gun, but it didn’t sell well. I wish I had kept my last one.

      • iksnilol

        Something like the M1 Carbine or Marlin Camp Carbine? I agree, shame they took the latter out of production, since it is a PCC that is legal in Norway for hunting. Otherwise I’d just go for one of those.

        The most realistic option is converting a Remington 7615 to 9mm. I saw there’s a company that makes a barrel bracket that allows you to quickly change barrels (one bracket per barrel). And you can use 9mm with the 5.56 boltface. Even then, you’d need to make some magazine conversion.

        • UCSPanther

          My father would love to get his hands on a Camp Carbine in .45 ACP. Even though we can get the more “military style” carbines in Canada, he would rather have something that is more like the traditional rifle.

          • nobody

            A pistol caliber carbine with a traditional style stock would be nice, also if it was designed to take P90 style magazines that would insert underneath and sit inside the stock so you could have a flush fit magazine with decent capacity.

      • GaryOlson

        You mean like the Beretta CX4 line of pistol caliber carbines which uses magazines from the 92 or PX4 pistols? Get them now before they are gone.

    • Kivaari

      That’s a great place for a .22 LR.

      • iksnilol

        I agree, Norwegian government doesn’t. You can use .22 LR on animals up to and including rabbit size, but not rabbit itself. Otherwise I’d get a Marlin Papoose, integrally suppress the barrel and add a piece of rail on the barrel itself and put a red dot on it.

        Funny thing, .22 LR is kinda popular for grouse and ptarmigan.

        • HenryV

          What about trolls? 🙂 😉

          • iksnilol

            Depends, usually you just call Troll Exterminators.

            Don’t have any Christians with you if there are trolls. They can sense them. Makes them angry.

  • kalashnikev

    It’s obviously not a “standard” Uzi mag if I’m looking at the catch and the mag well is 2″ deep.

    • Kivaari

      Perhaps it is the “Colt” type. I suspect it works better than my Colt. Reliability was low. The barrel would come apart. A little more lock-tite maybe. Colt never fixed the one we had at the PD. Customer service reps were rather rude with us. We kept using HKs for a few more years until we finally went to M4s. Those worked.

      • It’d be nice if they used the Uzi Pro mags, which look somewhat similar.

      • kalashnikev

        My Colt 9mm SBR is flawless.

        • Kivaari

          A friend has the SMG version and it works well. Once Colt stiffed me on repairs I sold it. It probably would have worked had I used blue lock-tite. It was frustrating the way Colt customer dis-service worked.

  • We’re in a SMG/PCC renaissance and my wallet can’t handle it :,-(

  • derpmaster

    Why is everyone and their brother getting into the 9mm SMG game all of a sudden in 2015? I thought the general trend in the market was towards short barreled rifles.

    • Esh325

      If you listen the Internet people, you would think 9mm smgs are dead because of short barreled assault rifles, but, yet new ones are still being made and issued to military and police forces.

      • Nicks87

        Money, its way cheaper to train with 9mm subguns and they work well in certain situations. It doesn’t mean you get rid of the patrol carbines, just another option. A lot of PDs are moving away from MP5s and looking for something more modern as well.

    • JK

      380 pocket pistols and 9mm SMGs for evebody!!!

    • aka_mythos

      First I think it’s started with a trend away from long range shooting… Maybe that’s sub-urbanization or some such where the percieved development of long range shooting skills are less important than home defense. It is a trend towards ease of use and home defense that pushed Rifles towards Short Barrel Rifles but as you shorten the barrel you less effectively take advantage of a cartridge’s potential and have larger muzzle flash. This has resulted in two trains of thought all to find some middle ground: make pistols more like rifles and make rifles rifle ammo that’s more pistol like. You have SBR pistol caliber weapons and you have .300blk which has similar performance to high end 9mm.

      I think the next step to all this will be to develope weapons more optimized for these barrel lengths. Think similar weapons but built around .357 Sig or 9mm P+ or 10mm… Those pistol cartridges that sit on the edge of being difficult for some to use but common enough you can find the ammo.

      • iksnilol

        The ideal thingy would probably be 9x39mm.

      • gunsandrockets

        The return of .30 Carbine!

    • ‘Cuz .22LR is still a unicorn in a lot of areas?

  • Esh325

    Is it gas operated or simple blowback? While gas operated would be complex and expensive, it would provide a smoother shooting gun compared to blowback.

    • MR

      Rotating barrel?

    • mechamaster

      Looks like blowback operated like UMP. ( just my hunch )

  • Lenny Curtail

    The man in the video is the owner, looks like a charming fellow. You have to credit him with making a go of it, hopefully they get a piece of the Slovakian state contracts assuming they are good enough.

    Slovakia is a highly capable manufacturer, they make more cars per head than anyone in the world.

  • gunsandrockets

    Watching the video, I suspect the bolt configuration is very much like the Walther MPL SMG, except more squared (and possibly easier to fabricate).

    Seems like a clever modern iteration of the 9mm SMG.

  • toms

    Coming to USA? Grandpower makes fine guns that are reasonably priced. Love my GP6

  • Not sure what niche this is supposed to fill though. Its not particularly light looking nor unique.

  • John

    I actually like the look of that. Instead of keeping a normal AR-15 magwell, they successfully slimmed it down. It retains functionality, and yet you instinctively understand what type of ammo and magazine it uses.

    I also like that the grip can be customized. Hope they use a different stock though.

  • Will Stromquist

    Looks similar to the B&T APC9 in ways

    • hikerguy

      That struck me as well. Maybe they licensed the design. It looks VERY much like the B&T SMG.

  • Kivaari

    It looks great. Even though the demand for 9mm SMGs is low in the US, there are lot of places where they a popular. Just this evenings views of Paris show quite a few cops with Beretta M12s.

  • myndbender

    It’s always nice to be able to have a good carbine in the same caliber as your carry pistol, & that’s been the case for well over 100 years.

  • Noir

    I hope he will make version for Scorpion EVO mags – they are much easier to load than UZI mags and even cheaper.

  • Boogur T. Wang

    I like that big grin the guy gives after he shoots it.

  • gunsandrockets

    I guessing cyclic rate of about 700 rpm, which seems high.

  • MrEllis

    I wish we’d get more pistol caliber carbines that were easier to acquire.

  • SIG751

    Apparently they have copied the B&T APC 9

  • noob

    That’s the smile of a happy man 🙂 It looks like there’s some kind of mass telescoped around the barrel. I’d be interested in seeing some dis-assembly pictures to see how it’s set up internally. Is there enough space inside that they could have designed it to use an AR-15 trigger group? using more AR15 parts than just the pistol grip would make it attractive in semi auto to people in the ar15 crowd and to government buyers who already have a M4 fleet to maintain.

  • lygamnt

    I’ve been looking into 9mm carbines lately do to cost of both the weapon itself and ammo and because I want to try something different. Has anyone had a chance to put any 9mm carbie through its paces and if so what are your thoughts range weight and overall durability. Any info would be highly appreciated.