Excel Arms 9mm Pistol, Rifle


Excel Arms was showing a new 9mm pistol and rifle at the recent National Association of Sporting Goods Wholesalers show in New Orleans. The new guns use Glock magazines and take their design cues from the company’s existing X-series pistols and rifles.

The pistol version of the gun has an 8.5″ barrel and Picatinny rail on top and underneath for the addition of optics and accessories. The rear of the receiver allows for the addition of a stock adaptor, which the company will introduce soon.


The rifle functions much the same as the pistol, but has a longer barrel (16″) and adds an M-4 style adjustable buttstock. The company offers a bullet button variant for California residents.

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  • thedonn007

    Looks like a Tec-9.

    I hope they are inexpensive ($500 or less).

    • BattleshipGrey

      They’d have a much better chance of surviving the market if so. The cost to shoot Glock mag ARs and HK clones is ridiculous.

    • Griz

      Maybe street price will be, but since they take glock mags they will be vaper-wear. There current rifle comes in .22lr ($504 MSRP) and 5.7×28 ($795 MSRP)

      • Griz

        *Their current…

      • MR

        Why would having them use Glock mags cause them to be vaporware? Serious question. I suppose people will snap them up before they even get to the display case. Hopefully their production numbers can keep up, I kind of want one.

        • Griz

          That makes them more desirable, supply will not be able to keep up with demand.

      • MR

        Their X-series pistols also feature 22wmr and 30 Carbine.

        • Anonymoose

          …now if only I could get a Glock in .30 Carbine…

          • MR

            I hear the old AMT semi-autos had a heck of a muzzleblast.

    • Nicholas Chen

      Actually I thought it looks like a paintball gun.

      • MR

        There ya go… a Tech 9 styled paintball gun. I hope it’s got an aluminum body available anodized in bright candy colors.

  • Gjert Klakeg Mulen

    Looks good.

  • Maxpwr

    Finally. The gun Glock refuses to make.

  • Martin Grønsdal

    a play of thoughts: what if we assume that this works fine in the field. What if we took all the M16/M4’s of the US soldiers and exchanged them with this weapon, but we would retain al the machineguns and all other weaponry.

    Would the tactics change a lot?

    or would they change much less than most would automatically assume?

    • NDS

      Depends on where the soldiers were deployed. In Iraq where average engagement distance is under 100m? Maybe tactics wouldn’t change but the troops would definitely be at a disadvantage. Anything longer than that (Afghanistan) and a pistol caliber rifle is not going to get the job done.

      • carango772

        under 100m the 5,56 offers vastly supperior piercing and wounding capabilities that any pistol round out there while beign very controlable and light, even in irak a modern army equiped only with 9mm carabines would be in trouble piercing all but the ligthest cover and body armor and would be very unnefective at ranges beyonf the 70yrds

    • mechamaster

      I think it’s unlikely that assault rifle like M16 or AK will be exchanged back to golden age of SMG like WW2 scenario.

      But I imagine this gun is fill the niche… something like modern day M3 Grease-gun or Sten gun that utilize commonly available parts like AR-15 part or Glock magazine for scenario like urban-guerilla-post-apocalyptic-survival. ^^

    • carango772

      soliders already complain about the lack of stopping power of the 5,56, they also complain about the poor long range performance of that round, so think a replacing it for the vastly inferior 9mm would be the worst possible choice… and by the way the average m4 it far more reliable than the average blowback operated carabine, i dont see how any pistol caliber carabine could offer any benefit over a m16 derivated rifle or any other rifle in service

      • Martin Grønsdal

        sure, and I would never advocate such change, but still – would the tactics change?

        • Matrix3692

          Yeap, the Riflemens would become pure ammo bearers for the MG gunners.

          As the new service weapon’s effective engagement range greatly diminishes, in a “regular” engagement of say 50~200 meters, they could not do a thing other than to sit tight and supply the MG gunners with ammo and spare barrels. If they try to engage the enemy at that distance, they would just waste ammunition, and risk hitting something that they don’t want to hit.

          Unless the enemy decides to close the distance to under 50 meters, where their sole job would become to protect the MG gunners.

          • iksnilol

            If they used 7.62×25 Tokarev they could engage comfortably at 150 meters with a very high hit probability. At 200 meters with about 50% hit probability. This is with irons.

        • carango772

          think about machinegunners and mortars providing covering fire for submachinegunners wich would have almost no offensive capabilities unless they get very close to the target, the area would be suppresed by abundant fire provided by the ligth armed submachinegunners carrying a lot of spare ammo for the support teams while submachinegunners aproach the area both in frontal assault and in a fast paced flaking movement, when close to the target the submachinegunners would rely on high density of fire to overwhelm their enemies… some sort of mixture betwen the machinegun tactics of the germans in world war 2 and the soviet approach to the subamchinegun during the same conflict.

        • Squirreltakular

          Considering that they’d almost completely lose their ability to shoot through intermediate barriers or to reach out beyond 100-150m, yes, the tactics would change drastically.

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  • Beju

    I hope it’s got a great personality.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Yesterday I said I would never buy one of these rifle/pistol deals because they are useless.
    Today im saying it because its ugly.

  • Pete Sheppard

    Looks like a refugee from the ’60s.

    • jerseydave

      Like the early prototype next gen SMGs from Walther and HK?

  • TangledThorns

    Excel Arms should of designed the gun using CAD instead of LEGO.

  • MrEllis

    Han shot first! Wait, wrong blaster.

  • Edeco

    I don’t mind the styling, just don’t see the point of a 9mm with mag outside of the grip. Make this to take a proprietary double-stack of 45 Win-mag, or 351 Winchester plz!

  • Sianmink

    If another low-cost glock-magazine 9mm carbine has entered the market, it will likely be welcomed if it isn’t crap.

  • KoyoteTan

    If it has last round hold open, it will be ahead of most of the Glock mag ARs out there. LRBHO is a unicorn with non glocks guns using that mag.

    • Cymond

      New Frontier Armory is working on a 9mm upper for Glock-mag lowers. Their upper contains a LRBHO instead of the lower. They claim it’s 100% reliable, but only time & testing will tell.


      • KoyoteTan

        Yeah, that and runner runner guns that is using the same parts, but all are hard to get and the uppers are not out yet. I did buy a 9MM bolt carrier that would work with them when parts are more available. I’m waiting for the 80% NFA lowers.

  • Vitsaus

    Looks like a home made gun you would see confiscated in Britain.

  • iksnilol

    I would have kept the mag in the grip. I mean, it uses pistol mags so why not? Would save you some centimetres length. If they can make it lighter than an AR it should be a decent gun for shooters without much physical strength.

    • Edeco

      Arguably easier to insert/withdraw mags to/from the grip as well.

      • Cymond

        But then you’d have a bolt or slide that reciprocates out the back of the pistol, which would complicate the carbine version a bit.

        • Anon. E Maus

          No it wouldn’t, the gun would be the same except with a long magwell with a grip around it, just like on an Uzi or MAC-10, or hell, a Glock.

          The action would be in the same place.

          • Cymond

            Uzis and MACs have large humps at the back of the design, over the wrist. Glock’s slide reciprocates. But yeah, a bump like that wouldn’t interfere with a carbine stock.

            A slide like a Glock, however, would be awkward on a carbine.

            Keep in mind that they probably started with a carbine and the redesigned it as a pistol.

    • Anon. E Maus

      I kind of agree, but at the same time, I think they’re also looking for modularity and commonality, a lot of their guns are built the same way, using AR pistol grips and all.

      • iksnilol

        I can see that one. I presume it uses AR triggers and controls and other small parts?

  • Cal S.

    Now if only there were a way to buy one…

    I’d kinda like that .30 Carbine model.

    • Anon. E Maus

      I think Excel Arms make carbines and pistols in that chambering, using M1 magazines.

  • Ben

    Does it use AR trigger groups?

  • Bal256

    Id like a 9mm AR, but I’ll get an NEF or QC10 lower. Can’t stand how most AR9s have a skinny 9mm magazine sticking out of a 223 magwell.

  • Kivaari

    I like it. An SBR variant that actually worked well would be fun. Many better guns for serious work exist, so this would need to be in the toy box.

  • El Duderino

    Why do these photos remind me of The Morrow Project? No idea…


    shame they didn’t profile the lower to match the upper.