James Bond Spectre Firearm Fauxpas

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I watched the latest Bond film, Spectre, last friday. While it was fun, I could not help myself from noticing the firearm issues in the movie. Warning some may consider these to be spoilers. If you have not seen the movie and care about spoilers, do not continue to read until you have seen the movie.

First issue is the main poster posted above. Daniel Craig does not know what trigger discipline is. Although it could be the photographer who shot this and directed Daniel Craig to do so.  Another issue is trigger finger placement. He is using the knuckle to pull the trigger and not the tip of his finger. He is not the only one to do this in the movie.

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In the beginning of the movie, Bond makes a rookie mistake. He uses a visible laser. Of course I understand how this helps with the story telling, but then that makes Bond not a very good assassin. One could argue that the laser is actually for picking up audio, but again the laser does not have to be visible for this to happen. If the laser was used for purely aiming purposes, then a simple red dot with a kill flash would have been much better suited for this operation.

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Throughout the movie, I caught Bond constantly racking a round into the chamber of his PPK/S. Clearly he is not a fan of carrying hot and loaded in the chamber. Another silly mistake since the PPK/S only holds 7 rounds. He could have 8 if he carried chamber loaded. At least he does show some trigger discipline when racking the slide.Bond rack 2 Bond rack

 

What Bond film would this be if the filmmakers did not embellish the performance of firearms? Here is Dave Bautista, portraying the character Hinx. He wields the Arsenal AF2011-A1, the double barreled 1911. While there is nothing wrong with this firearm, the issue comes from the bullet hits on the target he is shooting at.

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Apparently, film makers think that big pistols make big holes. Well, the Arsenal double 1911 only comes in two calibers, .45acp and .38 super. Both of which do not make grapefruit sized holes into the fuselages of planes.

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Later in the film, Bond takes out a helicopter with his PPK/S from a remarkable distance. Highly unlikely give the accuracy of the pistol and the round used.

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Phil Note: For those that may not know it the actor, Daniel Craig/James Bond, is an anti gun celebrity. Of course if there is enough money well sure I’ll use prop guns to shoot bad guys–hypocritical behavior to be sure. That said it doesn’t surprise me he doesn’t know squat about gun handling. A quote from Craig on handguns: “I hate handguns. Handguns are used to shoot people and as long as they are around, people will shoot each other.”



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • FLdeepdiver

    I always find it ironic that allot of action film actors are anti-gun or otherwise hate guns, kind of like raising beef cattle and being vegetarian.

    • Tom

      Much like many of the anti-gun politicians they are only against you having guns..

    • Paul White

      Because they have to apply real world morality to escapist fantasy?

      • Anonymoose

        Their escapist fantasies betray their true feelings on the matter.

    • TJbrena

      Not all of them.

      • kipy

        We’ve got Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris, and Brad Pitt on our side!

        • JK

          And that should be good enough for any man

        • SCW

          Brad Pitt is also an atheist (or was)…That makes me like him even more. He’s got common sense and no time for fairy tales.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Chuck Woolery’s packin’ heat?
        Watch out scumbags.

      • Rock or Something

        Ventura is only pro-gun if you have a portable M61 Vulcan Canon capable of making you a god damn sexual tyrannosaurus like him.

        • Phillip Cooper

          .. and if you have one that is bigger than his, he’ll sue you for .. well, whatever he can think of.

          I use4d to think a lot of him. Then he got into politics and opened his mouth, and my opinion plummeted.

        • SP mclaughlin

          The M134 ain’t an M61 Vulcan…

      • Don Ward

        Is that… Ernest Hemingway? I wouldn’t exactly use him as an example of a pro-gun celebrity.

        • Bill

          Or Hunter Thompson.

          • GreyGeek77

            Who committed suicide c

          • Bill

            Him and Hemingway both, though I think Thompson was known for a lot more firearms related shenanigans. Lot’s of film of him, uh, “practicing.”

          • Edeco

            Yeah, I get the impression he was half hearted about it, which in him I kind of resent. I mean, the famous wildman picking that to be conflicted about…

          • Bill

            I don’t think he was conflicted about them at all. I also don’t think he was ever sober or not stoned, either. But blowing your brains out kinda shreds your cred as a pro-gun spokesperson.

          • Anon. E Maus

            Thompson didn’t kill himself to make any kind of statement, it was a choice he made, relating to pain he was suffering, he had talked it over with his wife and all.

            He just took action to euthanize himself.

          • itsmefool

            Now if we’re talking about wife beaters, HST is definitely on the list!

          • Cynic

            Isn’t stopping a woman beater why the hello angels tried to kill him?

          • JK

            Just got a visual of a motorcycle gang in pink kitty costumes

      • Sianmink

        Sam L Jackson is so far as I know, not at all pro-gun, and I’d like to register a vote of ‘I don’t believe you’ for Clarkson. sure he likes shooting and general tomfoolery, but I’ve never heads him express an opinion positive of gun rights.

        • gusto

          he is very much a liberal (in the true sense of the word not how it is used un the US today)
          classical John Stuart Mills liberalism

        • If he’s pro gun control, then this is a remarkably restrained promo:

        • iksnilol

          Then you haven’t heard his “this is about the lack of respect for life” quote.

        • Cynic

          Iv seen several where he admits a fascination with them and supports ownership for himself and others, admittedly focused on hunting/working guns living in the country but Clarkson has been positive about ownership before.

      • tsubaka

        r. lee ermey is pro-gun ? what a scoop,
        also rip Tom clancy

      • Bill

        They left off Warren Zevon and Elvis.

        • Edeco

          Zevon? I adore the guy, and he was, as a whole, a force for well you know. But outside of his songs, as a person did he weigh in on guns specifically?

          • Bill

            According to his bio, he had a liking for them. Like Hunter Thompson, I doubt he was a poster child for sane gun handling, but hey, you can’t be a genius at everything.

      • Bill

        Where’s John Popper from Blues Traveler? He was stopped in Nevada or someplace with a tactical nuke and an Abrams tank. Seriously, he had a car full of high end “modern sporting rifles.” Gawd I love that phrase, I don’t leave home without mine, and my gutting’ knife.

        • itsmefool

          It was Washington state, IIRC…

      • john huscio

        Hillary duff should be on there…..

      • Yes indeed Johnny Depp is a big time gun guy

      • BillC

        That’s not Miranda Lambert, and a few of those guys are very much dead.

      • Anon. E Maus

        Sarah Michelle Gellar? Well that’s kind of cool. I guess those throw-away anti-gun lines in Buffy was on the behalf of Whedon.

    • Bill

      That’s kind of a stereotype. There’s a big shoot in Hollywood each year that stars use to raise money for charity IIRC.
      My next wife, Mira Sorvino, is a Deputy Sheriff, albeit honorary.
      Some Famous Guy, you know, that one, was photographed slogging through Katrina floodwaters with a shotgun.
      …and the first person who mentions Steven Seagal will be hunted down and their throat will be ripped out.

    • JLR84

      I’ve always found this a bizarre criticism. Movies are meant to be fantasy, doing something in a movie doesn’t mean endorsing it in the real world.

      Besides which we all know that anti-gunners aren’t actually anti-gun, they’re just opposed to civilian gun ownership. Bond is an agent of the state, and in their world view one of the few to be entrusted with firearms. How often do you actually see civilian gun ownership in movies?

      • iksnilol

        Bonnie in Jericho was handy with the shotgun.

        • JLR84

          Jericho brings up another observation of mine regarding civilian gun ownership in the media. When they do bother to show it, it’s almost always bolt-action hunting rifles, shotguns, and the occasional revolver. Remember the scene where the townspeople blockaded the bridge with their personal firearms?

          You don’t see any modern “black rifles” until they start to acquire full-auto military weaponry.

          • Porty1119

            I recall seeing M1 carbines and a few older-style AR rifles in at least one scene in Jericho. I’ve remarked that nowadays, their equipment would just about match Ravenwood.

    • MrEllis

      I find it weird people fixate on it one way or another. If you skipped every film that involved someone who held a singular belief you didn’t agree with… well, I’m not sure a single person could watch a single movie.

  • PeterK

    Is there any point to this post other than “It’s fun to overanalyze things?”

    I mean that is totally reason enough. I am just curious.

    • Nicholas Chen

      I like James Bond films. They are fun and while watching it, I thought to myself “It would be an interesting article to post out the flaws I am noticing”

      There are films that get stuff right and have decent firearm consultants.

      • MrEllis

        No mention of magic “silencers?”

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Pointing out stuff like that in an action movie is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.

    • INFI

      HMM

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Haha yeah, a bit of unconscious thievery on my part.

  • milesfortis

    Compare :

    “I hate handguns. Handguns are used to shoot people and as long as they are around, people will shoot each other.”
    To:

    “I hate Rocks. Rocks are used to bash people and as long as they are around, people will bash each other.”

    “I hate Sticks. Sticks are used to hit people and as long as they are around, people will hit each other.”

    No one should ever believe that the ability to be a movie star has one thing to do with being able to actually think clearly.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      What are you talking about?

      • milesfortis

        You actually, really, don’t get the first point that all three “hate” statements are basically identical and also completely ludicrous?
        Or, the second point that giving any weight to the thoughts of a ‘celebrity’ simply because they’re celebrated is also just as ludicrous?
        I know for a fact that you’re smarter than that.

        Personally, I maintain that the Roman view on where actors stood on the social ladder was correct.

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          So is the first quote from Daniel Craig?

          • JK

            Last paragraph in the article.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            What a jackass.

          • JK

            Me, Dannyboy, or Miles? All three, perhaps. 😀

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Craig.

          • JK

            Thanks for clarifying. I was feeling a bit like a jackass, myself, didn’t know if that was showing in my comments.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Nah I just wasn’t getting the quote.

      • The quote I wrote from Daniel Craig in the article

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          Yeah I see it now.

          That guys a moron. He hates guns so much he decided to star in the #1 movie that fetishizes guns and violence.

          • MrEllis

            Prop guns, yo.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            He’s still a hypocrite.

          • MrEllis

            Well I don’t expect a dude who plays a rapist on a movie to endorse rape. It’s an actor, they’re there to look pretty and deliver lines. Most people in the industrialized world are ignorant of firearms and rather skeptical. If Craig doesn’t dig guns, bully for him. If he’s running for office I’ll maybe weigh in on his opinion. Otherwise, hell, for all I know he could be pretty cool to hang with. I’m not going to base my life on people’s thoughts on firearms. The dude at the doughnut place could be rabidly anti-gun, as long as he’s pro-glaze I’m okay with this.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Let me clarify, his opinion about guns isn’t what bothers me. I have close friends who aren’t fans of guns. My girlfriend doesn’t care for them (saw too many GSW’s in the ER). Guns don’t occupy my every thought. I actually respect other points of view.
            My problem is with people who say one thing and then do another. Im sure there are plenty of roles out there that don’t force him to glorify violence.

          • MrEllis

            I’m just being difficult. I’m picking up what you’re putting down, just busting some balls, man.

          • MrEllis

            Also it’s fun to point out actors could be pro-prop guns. I wonder if there is a pro-prop gun movement? Snap. I see some Onion.

          • Badkarma060

            It seems there is a lot of the going around. As long as they get the cash, the maddness will continue.

          • Anon. E Maus

            The guns in movies are not usually fakes or props, more often than not they are real guns adapted to cycle and fire blanks and there’s a lot of safety procedures and stuff and red tape regarding these.

            Brandon Lee was shot dead on the set of The Crow because there was a bore obstruction (a bullet), which got propelled by the gas produced by the blank cartridge. A terrible slip-up killing a talented young actor.

            They are far from just being props, these are real guns, it’s not common, but people have been injured and killed by blank-firing firearms.

          • disqus_j5Nj3oxoii

            Typical liberal hypocrite.

    • JK

      I hate people. As long as people are around, they’ll continue to kill other people.

    • Sianmink

      I HATE SAND
      IT’S COARSE AND ROUGH AND IRRITATING AND IT GETS EVERYWHERE
      Oh sorry I think I got sidetracked

  • Brian

    They don’t typically use prop guns on films. I was recently in a movie as an extra and we were all given the real gun as a prop. Only thing they did was make sure it was clear and safe. The main actors/actresses did not know a damn thing about handling a gun. And the director tried to tell me (hired as an expert extra) how to handle my gun contradicting how I would carry it in real life. Movies are highly unrealistic and most people don’t know how to handle guns properly.

    • Bill

      Realistic movies are typically boring movies.

    • Mcameron

      “They don’t typically use prop guns on films”

      they ALWAYS use prop guns in films…..ALWAYS.

      if you were on a set where actors were handed real firearms, that was clearly not a professional….or even semi-professional movie set……

  • He looks like Archer.

    • TJbrena

      Funny enough, Archer has actually improved its portrayal of firearms throughout the series, Archer’s PPK especially.

      • Cymond

        Except they really screwed up the M-16 in the end of season 4. I forget the exact details, but Archer, Ray, and Cyril are in a jungle somewhere.

    • kipy

      The tactical-turtleneck

      • Archer didn’t invent the turtleneck, but he was the first to emloy it as a tactical garment. The tactleneck…

      • Phillip Cooper

        That’s the Tactle-neck, you philistine!

        • kipy

          I’ll go get the “coarse” sand 🙁

        • MR

          “Idiots doing idiot things because they’re idiots.”

  • The_Automator

    “Another issue is trigger finger placement. He is using the knuckle to pull the trigger and not the tip of his finger.”

    There isn’t anything wrong with this. It’s outdated technique.

    • MR

      “I still “chicken wing” on occasion.”

      -Rotary Phone Level Operator

  • Evan

    Safety rules don’t apply to James Bond.

    The Daniel Craig Bond movies have all sucked though. Especially Skyfall. The whole James Bond back story thing was lame, nobody cares about what happened when Bond was a kid. It’s a shame, because I think he’s done a good job playing Bond, he just wasn’t given anything good to work with.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      “Bond, Bourne, Batman. All the same. Deal with it.”

    • Paul White

      ………

      Damn man, Casino Royale rocked. QoS was strange. Skyfall….I enjoyed the first viewing but on the second you start to think how bizarre the bad guys plan was even by Bond standards

      • Evan

        To be fair, I don’t really remember Casino Royale, but I was butthurt that he didn’t even say “Bond. James Bond” in the entire movie.

        Quantum of Solace was lame, here he has Olga Kurylenko and he doesn’t even do anything with her. James Bond is better than that.

        Skyfall was my second least favorite Bond movie, after Moonraker. The entire second half of it was just bizarre and un-Bondlike.

        • ostiariusalpha

          You really don’t remember the movie at all, do you? They saved his catch phrase for the end when he was standing over that weasel Mr. White.

      • Cynic

        QoS was a poor choice to film it’s a 32 page short story that explains why bond became who he is after Vessel’s death and why he is emotionally broken. It is useful background but doesn’t have enough meat to be a film hence filling it with bollocks

    • Tritro29

      …yeah because Bond’s idea of a spy flashing his real name, walking non stop on traps and taking with a sh¨tty PPK on whole armies, is material to work with. Have you read anything from Ian Fleming? I bet you have not.

      IUD’s initial comment was best and sufficient to close this thread. If this post was just to lash out at Craig’s lack of appetite for guns, then we have a totally different issue best left out of “Guns NOT Politics”.

      BTW “GUNS” ARE devices of destruction that you like that fact or not. The essence of them being “good” or “bad” is down to which group makes better use of them, “us” or “them”.
      I’d say that the Craig Era Bond have been the least caricatural, although SPECTRE was a total pastiche, overly emphasizing on “democracy” BS. Ironically the best plot of them, Quantum of Solace was the least “performing” at the box office.

      • Evan

        Wow, James Bond isn’t even remotely realistic? Could’ve fooled me.

        I thought the whole point of being a spy was to draw as much attention to yourself as possible while taking on villains with cartoonish plots for world domination.

        In case my sarcasm wasn’t completely obvious there, the point is that I don’t care. They’re fun movies, not intended to be remotely realistic.

        And yes, I’ve read Ian Fleming’s books Dr No and From Russia With Love.

  • TJbrena

    I’m so numb to firearm inaccuracies in movies I often don’t even notice them. The .380 taking out the helicopter made me die a little inside, though.

    The weak, contradictory “kick the dog” writing of the main villain, secondary villain and Spectre couldn’t be saved by Christoph Waltz’ performance alone.

    Fun action scenes though.

  • Edeco

    He two-hands the PPK too much to suit me. I’m like “pffft, lol”.

    • SP mclaughlin

      Ninja pun with “suit me” heh

      • Edeco

        Um, unintentional, but OK 🙂

  • Coldblood

    same thing with moron Liam Neeson, does not like guns, but makes a ton of money shooting people around and promoting violence and killing in movies…

    • MR

      But “I will find you. And I will bring a counselor so we can talk this out.” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

      • Coldblood

        that is right! =)

        • MR

          Now I want to see that movie. A Woody Allen style film, really dialogue driven.

          • oldman

            A remake of whats up tiger lily using the bond cast.

          • MR

            Haven’t seen that, I’ll check it out.

            Maybe a “Portlandia” style kidnapping caper.

          • oldman

            It is Woody doing a satire on the old asian spy / crime movies he kept the movie but changed the dialog hope you like it.

          • Bill

            That was called “Raising Arizona.” I’m not retiring ’til I actually get to write in a report that the the suspect had a panty on his head.

          • MR

            Not enough British accent in that one. A bit too melancholy for my taste, made me self-conscious of my white trash background. While we’re tossing around movie ideas, I may as well be picky.

          • Bill

            Wes Anderson

          • Don Ward

            The movie you want has already been made. Woody Allen starred in 007 movie in 1967 called Casino Royale.

  • Sianmink

    Like every other Bond actor, he’s a Brit who hates and fears guns.
    Pointing out that Hollywood distorts and misrepresents gun handling and performance is like mentioning that the sun is hot.

  • Sir TuberKopf

    Truth be told even Disney making kiddie movies can’t make them without guns, swords, or spears. Violence fantasy is their bread and butter.

  • Paul O.

    Been ignoring Hollywood movies for some time. I’ll pass on this one too. Why give my money to anti-gunners?

  • Martin Grønsdal

    the worst faux-pas is when he wanted to teach his female friend how to use a pistol on the train, and handed it to her. She declined, stating she hates guns. Then she showed that she can rack the slide, and a round popped out from the chamber.

    I teach newbies every day how to use a gun, and the gun is always loaded. NOT

  • Lance

    James Bond using realistic weapons move….. That’s a laugh.

  • Christopher Edward Penta

    I mean… have you ever shot a PPK? The trigger is meant to be pulled with your distal muscle. It’s about 14 pounds.

  • Don Ward

    See, here is where Nicholas and other gun guys are wrong when it comes to firearms handling techniques in action movies. You are assuming James Bond or Mel Gibson in the Lethal Weapon movies or John McClane in the Die Hard franchise or Dirty Harry are infallible individuals, particularly when it comes to firearms. When it is clear with how these characters are portrayed and written that they are screw-ups. They’re all portrayed as cops/spies who play by their own rules. What is that translated to? Screw ups. Consider your own life. Think of your own relatives or coworkers who “play by their own rules”. Guess what, they are probably on marriage number 3, are paying child support, can’t hold down a steady job and you sure as heck aren’t going to be seeing proper firearms handling techniques from them.

    So when James Bond has his finger on the trigger in a movie poster, it is because that is how his character would really do that. 007 is literally the worst spy in history. He prefers a .25 ACP Beretta. He’s a secret agent but every bartender and night club owner knows how he likes his martinis. The guy has lost a score of partners. He always gets captured. He always destroys his equipment despite Q telling him to pay attention. He’s in trouble with his superiors which is why he is never assigned real cases like killing Osama bin Laden or The Jackal. Which leads me to believe that the only reason James Bond doesn’t have his License to Kill revoked is because he has one heck of an employees union rep.

    • Sulaco

      And in a recent movie he gets his boss (M) killed! And he still has a job at the end of the movie?????

      • Don Ward

        The fact that the new Q has a job is even more surprising.

  • Barrett

    Edumacate yo self fool: I wouldn’t call not shooting with the tip of the finger a mistake. Many world class shooters and instructors (AMU, Pat Macnamara, Bill Rogers) just to name a few, emphasize resting the finger naturally on the trigger. More finger, more leverage = greater control. The whole tip of the finger thing comes from precision rifle shooters. While it works well on weapons with light triggers, it’s not ideal for unmodified issued weapons that true (operators, soldiers, LEOs, 007s) will be using.

  • Bill

    In the Fleming novels Bond was supposed to switch to a .38 Centennial or Bodyguard when he was expecting serious trouble. I, on the other hand, wore an Airtight Centennial when my kid was born because I wasn’t expecting any trouble. That came later. Also, it didn’t pull my scrub pants down.

  • Sulaco

    Have not seen this one, don’t really plan too, but how many Glocks do we get to see in this one where there is a loud “click” when they take the “safety” off the pistol?

  • Lew Siffer

    The Bond movies are now subtle anti-gun propaganda. Notice that in Skyfall, Bond’s PPK is plenty of gun for a good person to use against an evil person who uses a full auto Glock with a drum magazine. A double-barreled hunting rifle is all a good person needs, even though the evil people use assault rifles. A good person uses a small “smart gun” that only he can fire. And women don’t need guns, if you give a woman a gun she will shoot you instead of the bad guy (and then she will take a voluntary demotion to secretary – where is the outrage over this horrible mash-up of misogyny and anti-gun tripe?). All this is deliberate, as the entertainment industry is of the firm belief that you should be persuaded that at most you should be allowed to own a hunting rifle or a small pistol, and anything else you don’t need. If you think you need more, just hire some private bodyguards like they do.

    • Bill

      I was too outraged at the price of popcorn. Is it part of the vast left wing conspiracy too?

      • Lew Siffer

        If the only response is diversionary ridicule, the points are conceded to be valid.

        • Bill

          No, they aren’t, because somethings are ridiculous. You made that up yourself. I also ridicule people who wear tinfoil hats, according to your logic they are actually protecting against The Rays.

          • Lew Siffer

            I sympathize; I used to think like you. On the top of my list of things that were ridiculous was those tinfoil hat lunatics that said that one day the police would declare a state of emergency and order all citizens disarmed then go door to door and confiscate firearms. Until it happened in New Orleans in 2005. At a time when police officers were abandoning their city and picking up their spouses and children in their patrol cars and driving north to safety, and no response to a 911 call could be expected, the answer from the government was “No one will be able to be armed.” “Guns will be taken. Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns.” Of course, private security guards were exempt from the confiscation order. Don’t believe me, do your own research. Movie makers used to deny that they took money to put products in their movies, and used to deny that they took money to have characters smoke in their movies. Again, do your own research. Regarding that wonderful electronic PPK-S that saved Bond’s life because he let himself be disarmed but the bad guy couldn’t fire it, read up on the New Jersey Childproof Handgun Law and its implications. Please, do your own research. Or not. The choice is yours.

          • Bill

            I’ve never thought like you, and am damn glad of it. Living in constant fear must be a drag. And you may want to do a little research on the Katrina Gun Grab, like how few were actually taken and who was taking them. You also conveniently ignore the fact that a court, part of the system you despise, ordered it halted, and it was. So as an exercise in totalitarian government, it’s not your best example, being a miserable failure. After all, The System that you think is out to get you, actually worked to defend the rights of these citizens.

            If I were you, I’d contend that American citizens of Japanese descent should have taken up arms before being forced into detainment camps solely because of their ethnicity. Seriously, people yowl about FEMA concentration camps and that the time for armed overthrow of a totalitarian government is nigh. Where were you guys then? Those citizens should have fought back, right, instead of being forced into camps? How about the Battle of Blair Mountain? The planning of using military bombers against American citizens? Or doesn’t anything that happened before the 1960s count? Oh, yeah, those were the good old days when we could rabbit hunt walking the 80 miles to school uphill each way and the schoolmarm would let us keep our shotguns in the coatroom.

            But you don’t care about facts that don’t fit your narrative of an evil government.

      • JK

        Yes, they work in tandem with Micheal Bloomberg’s attempts to outlaw large sodas. Since attempts at simply naming these snacks as contraband have failed, they’ve resorted to pricing them out of the reasonable range for the average citizen. Had NSA not already been taken, we would be staring down the barrel of the National Snack Act, forced to buy a two hundred dollar tax stamp for every serving of questionably healthy munchies.

    • Don Ward

      Bond also killed the baddies with a machine gun equipped Aston Martin. By this logic, Sony is pro machine gun equipped British sports car.

      Pro tip: The lack of firearms was to create tension and the double barrel rifle bit was explained.

    • MrEllis

      Actually he’s pron to picking up any weapon near him. A rifle would ruin the lines of his suit. Also, Bond has always been prone to whipping out a pistol in the face of absurd odds and automatic weapons. You’re reading waaaaay too much into it. Also, you would not be fun to take to a movie.

  • Bill

    They taught us that at The Camp at Langley. You ricochet a round of the tip of a skid, it goes up through the turbine, which breaks a blade off and shurikens it into the pilots spinal cord, then the bullet bounces into a fuel tank causing non-explosive kerosene-based jet fuel to explode in a massive fireball.

    If it’s a helicopter with wheels, you’re just phucked.

    • Rex Krom

      Ah yes I remember that. It was the day before ejector seat training, good times.

  • RicoSuave

    Daniel Craig has made no secret of his dislike of handguns. He said this back in 2005 when first took on the 007 role:


    “I hate handguns. Handguns are used to shoot people and as long as they are around, people will shoot each other.

    “That’s a simple fact. I’ve seen a bullet wound and it was a mess. It was on a shoot and it scared me. Bullets have a nasty habit of finding their target and that’s what’s scary about them.”

  • Don

    Craig is not the only Bond who is anti gun..

    “Craig is hardly the first anti-gun Bond. Pierce Brosnan supported anti-hunting saboteurs. Roger Moore declared “I am completely opposed to small arms … I don’t like guns.” And the guy who for many is still the only “real” Bond, Sean Connery, helped bring about the UK’s handgun ban – and also evidently preferred his women like his martinis, shaken, not stirred.”

  • Don

    There are several Bonds that are anti gunners, see the quote below…

    “Craig is hardly the first anti-gun Bond. Pierce Brosnan supported anti-hunting saboteurs. Roger Moore declared “I am completely opposed to small arms … I don’t like guns.” And the guy who for many is still the only “real” Bond, Sean Connery, helped bring about the UK’s handgun ban – and also evidently preferred his women like his martinis, shaken, not stirred.”

    • Ezra Bristow

      Hunting sabs are against foxhunting with dogs and posh people on horseback which is an inefficient and inhumane way of hunting. It’s harder to disrupt someone hunting with a gun

      • Don

        A quote from an interview Brosnan did with The Sun after the Newtown, Conn shooting…

        “I have deep feelings on the issue. I am so connected to Boston being an Irishman, and now being an American citizen. It has a numbing effect on one’s senses and creates deep fear in our hearts and deep sorrow. We are somewhat powerless to do anything, but to extend our sympathy to the victims of such a tragedy and hope that mankind will come to its senses and stop killing each other.”

        As a first step he thinks “America has to ban citizens from owning rapid fire weapons.”

        Commenting on the gun massacre at Newtown,Connecticut, he said: “Newtown is a horrendous tragedy, one which could have been avoided. Assault weapons should be banned without question and guns should be monitored. The gun law in Americais absolutely crazy and out of control.”

  • Ezra Bristow

    Speaking as a movie armourer, I can tell you that the actors are told over and over again about racking the slide, cocking the hammer and trigger discipline. But there is so much going on and if it’s a non-action scene the gun is very much an afterthought and they just aren’t aware of the gun in the same way. It’s particularly difficult as while the occasional film invests time and money in training most of the time the actor’s first time with their character’s gun is 5 minutes before the camera rolls. Also, yeah a lot of the time you’re asked for an opinion regarding bullet holes or handling and then the director goes “yeah but I want to see this” – well you asked my opinion…

    But it’s just movies, it’s not real…

  • Patrick M.

    I believe I also heard a hammer cocking in a scene where he has a VP9

  • stfram1

    Watch it again (From Russia With Love). He shoots a guy who is holding a grenade, who drops the grenade in the helicopter, which causes the helicopter to explode.
    Everybody references this scene, but they’ve never bothered to actually watch it.

    • Captain Obvious

      It still counts!

  • Don Ward

    Back when the Simpsons were funny.

  • Iblis

    What was the “assault” rifles that he was using to get to the helicopters? I couldn’t quite tell what they were. The ones he took from the guards.

  • MrEllis

    Err, you should probably skip James Bond movies…

  • MrEllis

    Gunfoolery is not the most glaring mistakes in cop shows. Besides, your average schmuck is more worried about advancing the story than learning to shoot. I’m not going to hold TV shows to any realistic standard, people don’t even act like people in them.

  • Regulus

    is it out now? whats the hook up?

    • MrEllis

      It’s a Bond movie, a comfortable, familiar, guilty pleasure. Like mac-n-cheese. If you go into it thinking he’s not going to bang a few unobtainable women, wreck millions of dollars worth of vehicles and hipshot/spray his way out of crazy odds… well I got bad news for you. Oh yeah, at least one person will use an impractical weapon.

  • BillC

    “I hate handguns. Handguns are used to shoot people and as long as they
    are around, people will shoot each other.”

    You know, it isn’t exactly wrong on that, kind of. He just made the assumption that if (hand)guns are forever gone, people will stop killing each other. But, he didn’t say that. If (hand)guns exist, people will shoot them (at other people). Just the same as if cars exist, people will drive them.

    But, it is annoying how every movie or TV show has every actor with a firearm constantly racking/charging a round in the chamber, always. F U director for your dramatic effect.

    • Cymond

      I think the constant racking is a response to the old days when nobody ever reloaded, not even after hundreds or thousands of rounds.
      What really drives me crazy is the racking/charging/cocking sound every time anyone swings or points a gun, even if they’re not touching the slide/bolt/pump.

  • spiff1

    Did anybody notice in the first third of the movie a Berette 1934 being drawn from his pocket? And, does anybody know of a team of mechanics who could put together an old Aston Martin from only a steering wheel and body shell in 48 hours? A phunn movie anyway!

  • Phil Hsueh

    As far as the poster goes, I see this all the time on movie posters regardless of how they handle the guns in the movie itself. For some reason, the people behind these posters seem to think that it looks cooler to have the actor(s) with their finger(s) on the trigger, like they’re ready for action or something equally silly. However, the trend in shows and movies has been more towards fingers off the trigger, almost to the point of ridiculousness where a bad guy is holding someone with their gun to the head but the finger is clearly off the trigger, or cops going breaking in a door and into a house/apartment with their fingers off of the trigger.

    As far as the laser goes, that’s clearly something made up by the prop dept. and it looks like they might have taken the laser out of a Blu-Ray player or something. But I don’t think that it was meant to be visible, if they wanted it to be they would have added in a clearly visible beam in post. The only reason why really see it all, aside from the emitter, is because of the haze and smoke in the scene, besides, Hollywood just loves visible lasers, to the point where they’ll have snipers using a laser sight so they can show a beam or the dot on the target.

    Lastly, in regards to shooting down the helo with his PPK, he did start to shoot it with a Sig but dropped it after a while in favor of his PPK, So it’s theoretically possible that the Sig in mm(?) dinged the metal around the engine enough for the PPK to punch through and help kill the engine. Sure, it’s a long shot but it’s probably theoretically possible, he is Bond after all and if anyone can fire a golden BB and take down a helo with a pea shooter it’s Bond.

  • Dominique

    There are some significant and contemporary political and social issues to consider and take away from the movie “Spectre”, especially in light of recent terrorist attacks abroad and shootings in our homeland. Your near obsessive focus on irrelevant “firearm fauxpas” in this movie, rather than concern for it’s more substantive and analogous themes which parallel the tragedies that are played out in our present-day society, is quite disturbing.

    • Dominique

      I should also say that I think guns are possibly the worst things ever created. To those of you who compare rocks, sand, etc. to guns… I hope you are smarter than this. There is a difference. Sand, when pointed toward and cast on a body, does not cause immediate death. Guns, however, do. No one should have to explain this to you. You do not need a gun. To rationalize your right to firearms, under the guise of a “responsible”, “healthy” member of the cushy society we take for granted within the US, is indicative of a deep mental sickness; a sickness that you should address, before becoming the next gunman at a school shooting.

  • Tim Pearce

    Supposedly he doesn’t want to be James Bond anymore. Good riddance.

  • Mcameron

    “Another issue is trigger finger placement. He is using the knuckle to pull the trigger and not the tip of his finger.”

    Ever shoot a small gun like the ppk, P64 mak or similar?…..if you have large hands, you almost need to shoot it with the knuckle….

    if you have large hands, trying to pull the trigger with your fingertips creates a poor and uncomfortable grip on the handgun…….also, you are not able to pull the trigger straight back…..you inevitably end up pushing the trigger to the side.

    shooting with the knuckle solves this.

  • steveday72

    He also hates knives. Knives are used to stab people and as long as they’re around, people will stab each other.

  • Anon. E Maus

    In Goldfinger, Sean Connery shot a helicopter with a .22LR AR-7 rifle, prompting it to explode mid-air.

    Remember the kind of movies you’re watching here.