SIG P225 Returns

SIG P225 A1

SIG SAUER is now shipping the updated P225 pistol. Called the P225-A1, the new handgun looks like the original, but has been upgraded with a short reset trigger and takes advantage of modern manufacturing techniques.

The pistol is a single stack 9mm handgun that holds 8 rounds in the magazine. With an empty magazine, the gun weighs a little more than 30 ounces.

SIG P225 A1

Unlike the original P225, the new -A1 model has a fully machined slide. The slide is Nitron finished while the frame is hard coat anodized. Grips are two piece G10 panels – not the one piece design found on some modern SIG pistols – and have a SIG emblem in the center.

The suggested retail price is $1,122. If you want the factory night sights, the MSRP bumps up to $1,236.



Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • nester7929

    I was excited until I saw the price.

    • nova3930

      I’m all for more options inin the market but I totally don’t get the business case for this in the modern market. When you can get a shield or glock 43 for like $400 I’m just not feeling it….

  • Gregory

    The MSRP is insane. If the street price went as low as $600, I might consider it.

  • imachinegunstuff

    Ampty?
    Anywho priced out of my willingness, and kinda big for a single stack.

    • Anonymoose

      I don’t know why some countries’ armed forces still use single-stack P220s like this when the P226 has been around for over 30 years now. Some of my big, honkin single-stack 9s are great for target shooting, but there are other guns I would grab first for CC (smaller) or defensive purposes (higher-cap).

      • Bill

        For the same reason they use single stack 1911s, and not double stack Paras. Capacity isn’t everything. I can palm a Thanksgiving turkey, but still prefer a slender, shapely butt, in more than just pistols.

        • Anonymoose

          What part of “9mm” did you not understand? People don’t carry double-stack 1911s or Glock 21s or FNX-45s because double-stack .45s are FAT. Double-stack 9mm handguns are still relatively thin for the most part, and with combat pistols CAPACITY IS EVERYTHING.

          • Bill

            ONLY IF YOU PLAN ON MISSING A LOT. HITS ARE EVERYTHING.

            There are plenty of double stack .45s, and there are plenty of fat 9mms. “Relatively thin” is relatively subjective. Plenty of fights have been one with revolvers and single stack autos, all in a variety of calibers. I can reload and make a single stack shoot like a double stack, but I can’t thin down the but of a double stack and make it lighter or more concealable or more ergonomic. I can conceal a GLOCK 21, but I can conceal a 1911 a lot more easily.

          • Anonymoose

            Military studies show that the more boolits you throw out there, the more combat-effective you are. This is the basis of modern military doctrine, and the entire reason why we switched from .30-06/.308 and .45 to 5.56 and 9mm.

          • Bill

            I’m not in the military: if I just throw a lot of rounds downrange and the wrong person screams and falls down, someone will write a letter to the editor and the county will have to write a big check, plus I wont feel good about myself.

            I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t much care what caliber I’m carrying, within reason. Technology has reached the point where if you shoot somebody in the face 3 times with caliber X and again with caliber Y they probably can’t tell the difference.

            I also don’t care about capacity nearly as much as I care about getting to cover and getting hits with a pistol that doesn’t make me limp when I holster it. I’m not studly enough for that hand-carried MiniGun with backpack full of batteries and bullets. Then again, the spare mags I carry are invariable extended ones – I figure if I need to actually use a spare mag I”m pretty much phucked anyway, they aren’t any more difficult to conceal, and particularly compared to tiny Bic-lighter sized magazines they are easier to manipulate.

            Whatever bakes your cookies.

          • MichaelZWilliamson

            I prefer the 1911 myself. But people with smaller hands need smaller grips. People smaller than me (like my daughter) need lower profile.

            And at the other end, people who are forced to resort to a handgun in a modern firefight need craptons of ammo.

            This is why I support choice in firearms. You should have as many as you need for every type of shooting you will be doing.

          • Bill

            There’s an argument to be made in police shootings at least that as capacity has gone up, so has the number of rounds fired. Unfortunately, that too often means more misses and those rounds have to go somewhere. People in firefights need craptons of hits, not falling back on spray and pray.

          • MichaelZWilliamson

            “Gee, I wish I had less ammo, so I could make every shot count,” said no one in a firefight, ever.

          • Bill

            You do understand that you can carry 4 single stack magazines in the same space as two double stack magazines, don’t you? So when I go to work with a 1911 and one Wilson 8 round magazine in the gun thats 9 rounds. Add 4 more magazines, thats 32 rounds, for a total of 41, plus a couple spares in the kit bag, and maybe some 10 round McCormicks if I sense a disturbance in The Force, plus a 5 to 8 round back-up gun, plus a shotgun, plus a rifle, I think I’m pretty much set, until the Boss assigns me to patrol a beat in Kabul.

          • MichaelZWilliamson

            Less mags = less mag changes.

            You’ve also changed your story, from “making every shot count” to “Carry extra mags.”

          • Bill

            Dude, I carry extra mags regardless. The point isn’t number of mags and reloads, the point is carrying a gun that fits you ergonomically, thus leading to better control of the handgun. I shoot a 1911 pretty well, better than I shoot the average double stack, so I’m going to carry the pistol I shoot better, not the pistol that holds more rounds.

            I’ve GOT to make even shot count – I’m responsible for every bullet that leaves the barrel. I’m a cop, not a soldier, we don’t use suppressive fire or have gunships on call. I’m also 20 minutes to a couple hours from help, so durn tootin’ I need to make each round count, and have extra mags, and guns available. I do the same on the occasions I carry a double stack – when the Boss looks at my 1911 cross-eyed and I need to pacify him for a couple days.

            The “story” I’m addressing is the issue of capacity, which some people equate with “firepower,” versus ergonomics. I don’t believe that “firepower exists in anything man-portable, but I can make up for a perceived lack of capacity; I can’t whittle the butt of a double stack down to fit me as well as a single stack.

          • Jesse Foust

            I don’t plan on missing ever, but having had the “privilege” of using a firearm in a fight, I still missed more than I would have liked. You’re correct, hits are everything, but more hits are more everythinger.

          • The Facts

            How about the .45ACP Sig P227? Semi-double stack… Grip is not any “fatter” than a Glock 26. Understand?

          • Sam Green

            Actually good shot placement is everything.

  • Paul White

    I like single stacks–great for smaller hands–but 1200? Yikes

    • Kelly Jackson

      In the real world I’m guessing it’s more like $1050, which is still a lot for a gun that was selling for $200 as old police pistols a couple of years ago

      • MemorableC

        more like $950 like most other p22x’s, they all msrp around 1200 and street just under a grand

        • James E. Rustles

          Dealer cost is around $790, and $875 with night sights.

      • Anonymoose

        It’s a P226 with a “Carry” slide that uses single-stack mags (NEW, PROPRIETARY, AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH ORIGINAL 9mm P220/P225/P6 MAGS!). There is no reason to buy this when you can get a P239 that is the exact same thing in more sensibly-sized package. If they had brought back the old heel mag release, then I might be interested, but this is just lame.

        • Bill

          Are you saying that it’s a double stack-sized frame adapted to single stack mags, and not a single stack frame adapted from the 220 series?

          A 226 with a Carry slide is essentially a 229, albeit with a slightly shorted butt.

          • Anonymoose

            It is, and the P229 is different enough from the 226 that you can get 17 flush in the 226 but only 15 flush in the 229 (just like a Glock 17 vs 19). The P239 is the perfect size for a single-stack 9mm/.40/357 in SIG’s line-up. This is just them taking the oversized P220 frame (which is pretty much the same size as big as a 226, and better suited to 8 rounds of .45) and sticking a modified P239 mag in it. It’s working backwards to get a crappy approximation of an outdated gun to sell to some strange group of SIG fans who kinda, sorta, want a P225, but not a REAL P225.

          • Bill

            It’s a real 225 if SIG says its a real 225 – they are allowed to make product improvements. I’ve handled and shot plenty of old P225s that if there’s a significant difference I’ll notice it right away, but then again, after SIG went to the one piece stainless slide, I didn’t notice any difference in the shooting, just a lot of difference in reduced maintenance hassles, like blasting the rust off and fighting with that freaking double roll pin. I miss the old, classy, character-infused SIGs like I miss column shifted 3-speed transmissions.

          • Steve_7

            How did you not notice any difference in the shooting? Completely stumped by that comment.

          • Bill

            Completely stumped by your reply. I was referring to our “old” folded slide P228s and our “new” single-piece slide P229s. I didn’t notice any difference because they are essentially identical guns, just like I never noticed any difference between shooting a S&W Model 10 and a Model 64. If a shooter really notices a difference, they should take some of that excess attention and put it towards sight alignment and trigger management. I’ve met a couple guys who said that they could identify the guns by “feel,” but when the guns were concealed from view or they were blindfolded they only got it right about 50% of the time.

          • Steve_7

            I can instantly tell the difference between them, the P229 is noticeably top heavy and feels heavier when holstered. Carried both guns for years and put a lot of ammo through them as well. The slide is wider as well on the P229.

          • Bill

            I might have misunderstood – I can tell the difference between the double stack mid frames and the original 225 – it’s got that slim little butt I like. But between a folded slide P228 and a monolithic slide P229? Nope.

          • Steve_7

            I agree with you, this lacks the finesse of the original. Frankly I think all of the guns with the stainless steel slides do, but this one is especially silly.

            I only buy SIG-Sauer pistols with stainless steel slides if they’ve got stainless steel frames as well. Then they balance properly.

    • Kivaari

      The price is wrong. There are many fine handguns selling for half that price. Like many gun companies, they will set the price point beyond reason. We can still buy $500 service pistols. Not much to complain about, except for we older shooters that remember a Python selling for $125, the same as an AR15 SP1. Used M1911s for $35 make me wonder why $1500 1911s are worth that middle or the road .45. SIG, makes great guns, but sooner or later, they will find few are willing to step up for just another 9mm.

  • It’s quite expensive. How long is the barrel?

    • Old Fart

      3.9″

  • Steve

    Talk about a day late and a dollar short. Less concealable and heavier than the S&W Shield or the Glock 43. Why bother if you aren’t going to try?

  • Polaritypictures Ken

    what a waste, multiple issues.
    1- uses 239 mags, BUT will not fit, because of floor plate, if they removed 2-3 mm of material from the frame(and keep the grip length) you can use any 239 mag, but nooo. making all old 239 mags incompatible. Total f’up there.
    2- What’s the point on making a compact pistol doing the exact same job as the 239? only fraction of inches different?
    Meh Either they want to make more money buy limiting choices or people at the company are idiots.
    3- and hell no in the $1200 + price range. These guns should cost $600-750 range. Totally not worth what they’re saying. Just buy the Sig 320 with exchange kits.

    • TechnoTriticale

      4. No rail

      Which might be excusable if the frame isn’t wide enough.

      If this needs custom solutions for laser or lights, I suspect it’s not going to sell well enough to get them.

      • BearSlayer338

        That’s a non issue,rails are lame and make finding holsters harder.
        Not practical especially on a CCW gun,you don’t know what pain is until you have had a handgun rail pushing against you all day,especially if that rail is aluminum or steel.

        • Anonymoose

          I know a guy who CCs a P225, but it’s one of the good, old krautsurp ones, and not one of these half-breed abominations.

      • Bill

        Im surprised it doesn’t have a rail, but like the M11 it was probably in response to all the traditionalists who complained about the rail. my only complaint was SIG’s predominant use of a proprietary rail instead of a 1913 rail, but rails aren’t a deal breaker for me

        • Anonymoose

          If they wanted to be traditional they shouldn’t have used a P226-style mag catch.

          • BearSlayer338

            What like a heel release instead?
            I love heel mag releases,I can actually reload handguns that have those faster than handguns with regular mag releases,the funny thing is I don’t know why it is faster for me because I have more experience with regular mag releases.

          • Bill

            Not me. The heel release on my PSP kept it from being carried routinely.

          • BearSlayer338

            Do you run into shootouts where you need to reload often?
            I don’t,also if you trained with it maybe you would feel more competent with it,I’m at the point to where I can reload,heel release,regular release,and use a speed loader on a revolver at the the same speed.
            I’d recommend to practice off the range as well until you feel like you could reload all of your handguns in a stressful situation if needed,regardless of what kind of mag release/cylinder release they have.

          • Bill

            All good points, but given that every semi I use except one has the mag release in the same location, I’m just at the point where I can’t devote the training resources to reach the same level of competence. I’m also not sure that the heel release offers any advantages over the conventional release, if I was raised and trained in Europe where they were more common I might feel differently.

            It isn’t only about reloading – malfunction reductions often require the removal and replacement of a magazine. It’s been decades, but I got into a discussion over what might happen in a tap-rack-decide drill done with a heel release pistol if the butt was struck at an angle, inadvertently hitting the release.

          • jng1226

            You’re doing it wrong.

          • BearSlayer338

            No I’m just faster at adapting to new things,if anything that means I’m doing it better.

  • Dracon1201

    That is a HUGE and HEAVY single stack for 9mm, especially when they have a lighter/smaller gun with the same capacity that already does the job. What are they grasping at here?

    • tts

      Maaaaybe targeting the female part of the market?

      Its big for a single stack 9mm but smaller than a full size double stack 9mm pistol and the weight will mitigate recoil.

      Price ruins it though. Should sell for less than $600 IMO. Not like they’re doing anything new, interesting, or particularly complicated here anyways which is what they’d need to justify a $1200 price.

      • Old Fart

        One word: LH9N MKII

      • Bill

        Training for a SIG specific agency, we often put people with smaller hands on 225s, while others got 228s, then 229s. In doing so I found the 225 to be one of may favorites. I’ll take a pistol that fits well, carries well and functions well over capacity any and every day. The price will fall in line with the other Classic SIGs. I’m really digging it: everything you need, nothing you don’t.

        • tts

          I don’t doubt its a nice pistol, just saying that its not $1200 worth of nice.

          • Bill

            I tend to agree about the figure, but also assume that the price will drop as it hits the market and the initial rush of fanboys have been sodomized. When the Legion first appeared my preferred dealer immediately put in on “sale” and dropped the price 2 bills, though he could have easily added 2 and still sold every one.

  • imachinegunstuff

    899 seems to be the cheapest on gunbroker for a new model

  • Full Name

    So it is a big, heavy gun with a capacity that is only one more than my Ruger LS9? And costs four times as much? What market niche is this gun intended for?

    • Old Fart

      Retrosexuals…

  • Dan Atwater

    Wow. People really do love to complain.

    I’ve always liked the feel of 225s but there were aspects of them I strongly dislike and I couldn’t shoot them as well as a 239, which also has different aspects I don’t like. This 225A seems to fix all my complaints and I would love to have one.

    • Paul White

      I’ve handled and shot an older one and loved it, but just, damn that price. Owch

    • BearSlayer338

      But would you feel comfortable paying $1k for one?
      I wouldn’t,I won’t pay that much for any gun.
      Unless it can shoot circles around my pistols that are less than $1k,like my P220,and my original P225 than I don’t see the point.

      • Dan Atwater

        MSRP is the same as most other TDA SIGs. I’ve owned many and I’ve never paid more than 750 for one.

  • A.WChuck

    Heavy and low capacity. It’s NY SAFE! They will release a runtier version as the Bloomberg Signature Edition.

  • Old Fart

    Pass… The MK25 can be had for that price point. No small capacity hand gun is worth more than, say, $600. As much as I love SIG I’ll take the LH9N MKII over the 225A1 any day of the week and twice on Sunday. It’ll never be competitive. Lionheart is a far superior offering at around 40% less if you’re looking for a high end quality cc pistol. SIG’s share holders need to get rid of Cohen asap.

  • Madcap_Magician

    I doubt I’ll ever get one, but not for lack of wanting. The P239 just doesn’t quite do it for me, and I loved the old P225/P6. With the upgraded manufacturing, it would have a role for me in .357 Sig. Sure, it’s bigger and heavier, but it’s still relatively small, and the weight will help manage recoil for a bigger caliber.

  • Chadd

    I was thinking last night about how badly I want a slightly smaller than full-size, single stack 9mm with a 4 inch barrel. I’ve never shot a 225 but they fit my hand nearly perfect. As a hardcore sig fanboy living in California, if this hits my lgs for less than 600, I’d buy it without any hesitation.
    I can’t imagine Sig would put this in the same price bracket as the SP2022(about $400 around here) and it shouldn’t be in the same bracket as a 226 (about $950) either.

    I feel like this could be a great range gun or home defense gun in ungunfriendly states if it’s priced right

    • Bill

      I done see why it wouldn’t be in the same price range as the 229 or 226, which are all essentially the same gun except for dimensions. You don’t pay that much less for a Tahoe than a Suburban, all options being equal.

      This has the potential to be a do-it all gun, and I can easily see turning in my 229 for one of these. I’m not nearly as concerned about capacity as ergonomics, and I’ll do exactly what I do with a 1911- carry 4 spare mags in the same space as 2 double stacks

    • Anonymoose

      It’s not priced right, so you may as well get a real German P225 for 1/3 the price. If you’re going to drop a grand on a low-cap gun it might as well be a .45 P220 or P227 (assuming Cali allows those, and I doubt they will allow these, or any SIGs after the 1st of next year).

  • Count_Iblis

    Not worth the price.

  • Samson

    I love my Shield, I mean I love it. I have been and always was/still am a Glock guy, but the Shield was the perfect thing at the perfect time and is really an amazing, awesome gun- when you factor in the price, it’s probably the best gun for dollar you can buy. Really, just so great for the price. However, I also have loved and appreciated SIG for a long time and would love this gun, it might even cause me to replace my Shield (which the Glock single stack 9mm didn’t do – why replace my Shield with something I’m not so sure does anything better?) … the SIGs are simply much more refined than any Glock or S&W is. HOWEVER- and this is huge — the price is simply unacceptably ridiculous. HALF PRICE would be something I’d be like, “Well it’s a little expensive…. I’d have to seriously consider and think about it…” and at this price, we’re not even considering that- non starter.

    Probably a great gun but, come on now.

    • jng1226

      Save your money and get a trigger job on the Shield. Plus, this thing will be practically twice as big as your Shield to carry. For the same capacity and more than double the price? I’d get another Shield and carry ready for a “New York” reload.

  • john huscio

    Walther PPS fits the single stack niche for me at half the size, less than half the weight, and a fraction of the price.

  • CPock

    Not crazy about the P228 style trigger guard. I prefer my old school P225, which I got for less then half of that MSRP!

    • BearSlayer338

      It is actually pretty funny that you could buy a used old P225 and have it hard chromed(for durability) for less than even the base price of this new P225.

      • Steve_7

        Don’t hard chrome them, it buggers up the tolerances. I probably know more about hard chroming SIG-Sauers than anyone! Get NP3 instead.

  • Bill

    People might be putting the P225 in niches it isn’t meant to be; it was designed as a police service pistol, and not as a compact or subcompact gun. As for the price it’s equivalent to the other P series. The best analog I can think of is that it’s the equivalent of a Colt Commander, as compared to the original 9mm P220 and the full-size 1911.

    Its a great gun, that does it all, if a really nice form factor (assuming this is close to the original).

  • Obi Sean

    Think:”Colt Python vs. Ruger GP100″

  • MrEllis

    For one large this thing better vibrate or something. I mean they are sweet guns but let’s get real on how sweet they are…

  • BigFED

    I have many SIGs of various models, SAO, DAK, DA/SA, compact, carry, etc. While I like the 225, I can’t see it as anything that one of my other SIGs doesn’t do maybe better. Most of my EDC is P938 with 2 spare mags, one round less (7rd mags, 1 in chamber) and less that half the size, weight. My other EDC is a P320. Not much larger or heavier and almost twice the round count. As Jeff Cooper used to say about double action semi-auto pistols – “A solution in search of a problem!”

  • Kivaari

    Nearly 30 years ago I had a P225. It was an excellent pistol. The size, weight and handling was better, for me, than almost any handgun on the market at the time. Having been in the business at the time, I had a chance to own and shoot pretty much any pistol I wanted. As the decades past I traded it off for some other new product getting attention in the gun press. It remains a fine choice for a self defense or duty pistol. The current “thing of the week” are single stack 9mm. Well, the 225 was ahead of its time, was small enough to pack concealed but large enough that it didn’t get lost in the hand like so many of todays micro pistols.

  • Currie864

    Is there any advantage of the p225 over the p239?

  • OS

    I already have a real P225. It would have been more interesting had Sig come out with a modernized SAO P225. Still, I might take a look in person and then decide whether to buy one, as I like single-stack pistols.

    • Joe

      I’m interested in any SAO offerings.

  • Matt Shermer

    I’ll stick to the surplus P6 pistols I’ve seen cropping up and get a pallet of ammo to go with it at that price…

  • idaho101

    The market for the new P225 is for States with concealled carry and the silly States that have high capacity magazine restrictions

    • idahoguy101

      For customers in concealed carry States with small hands

  • Bryan

    Wow, a P225 that isn’t a P225, great! Non compatible mags, grips, possibly slide, AND a non traditional trigger guard? Sig “stupid” tax to boot?

    I was fortunate enough to locate a ANIB P225 last year for $580 OTD….Sig P6s can still be found for $350….The EXCELLENT Walther PPS can be had NEW for $380…..

    The REAL P225 will always be one of my faves and is still an utterly fantastic pistol…..but I wouldn’t buy one of these for half the msrp….no real advantage over other guns to do so. This is a desperate appeal at grabbing the “nostalgia” market with a “your lucky we’re doing this for you” Sig premium….

  • tenmillimeter

    Low capacity, trigger like rowing a boat, heavy, and twice as expensive…hm no thanks.

  • The Facts

    Single stack 9mm at 30oz?!!?!? What is the point? My single stack Kahr P9 Black Diamond is 17.7oz and was $515 with night sights… a sweet pistol… that said, I am a BIG Sig fan, love my P229 Sport, P227, P226 tacOps and P228R.

  • Steve_7

    These guns that SIG-Sauer are making like the P228-A1 and this thing are silly, because they’re too top heavy with the stainless steel slide. The original P225 and P228 are much nicer guns, lighter and a teeny bit less bulky.

  • Richard Lutz

    Love the P225. The small grip, thanks to the single-stack magazine, fits the hand of shooters with smaller hands much better than pistols with double-stack magazines like the P226. The low-capacity magazine also helps reduce the incidence of ‘spray and pray’ syndrome’ which is common in pistols that hold 10 or more rounds. ‘Firepower’ is only a substantive factor in gunfights when you have a fully automatic weapon like an MP5.

    With semi-auto pistols accuracy is the most important factor. Sometimes less is more. The P6 (P225) is still one of the most widely used service pistols in Europe. An excellent choice for police departments who want a service pistol that is readily concealable for use by detectives and off-duty police. That said, a slide mounted safety catch (like the one on the Mosquito) to help stop gun snatchers using them would be a nice option.

  • TexasRaider

    Ah, the plastic striker fired haters come out of the woodwork again…”No rail! Too little capacity! High bore axis! DA/SA sucks! Too much money!” Yes, what they can’t understand or have explained to them by their fave YouTube ‘Tacticool’ celebrity is beyond their comprehension, so rocks, insults and knee jerk gainsay circular declarations are thrown.

    This is the problem with the firearms community. Too much divisive “everything I don’t like sucks and I hate you!” compartmental tribalism and too little fraternity. Sad.

  • Peter

    I own an original 225. I have yet to handle this new version but I’m wondering why I would want a single stack 9mm with what appears to be a double stack grip(?)
    The videos on youtube defiantly show a 228/229 size grip well, and the mags seem to have a wide base plate designed to seat the mag correctly by filling the void.
    I’m open to an updated 225, but this doesn’t seem to be a replacement for the 239 either.
    Really scratching my head about the intended role / market for this gun.