I Hope This is Satire: The “Gross” Motor Skill Reload

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Designing for weapons manipulation for gross motor skills is a hard thing to do. Firearms designers fret over trying to put as much gross motor movement in weapon manipulation as possible. One of the biggest challenges is magazine changes, where small buttons reign galore.

Here’s where Firepower United comes in. He has posted up a video that I desperately hope is satire on the “operator’ fine motor skill reloads often taught for modern MSRs. He demonstrates how to reload a rifle without using ones lands to hit any of the controls.

The results are… interesting and highly entertaining.



Nathan S.

One of TFB’s resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.

Nathan can be reached at Nathan.S@TheFirearmBlog.com

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Marc

    This gross motor skills nonsense is nonsense. We use our hands every day, it’s the body part the use of which we have the most skill. Our hands don’t turn into useless stumps under an adrenaline rush. Sure, they get a bit shaky, but so do our knees, our breath and even our sphincters. Controls shouldn’t be finnicky, but training to headbutt and elbow strike them isn’t practical.

    • anon

      Sir, i will have you know that when i was the top sniper in all of the US armed forces and trained in gorilla warfare that my commanding officer not only have me access to the entire arsenal of the unites states marine corps, but also taught me this procedure.

      This is how the true snake eaters oper8

    • Joe Schmoe

      I had no problem clearing over three kinds of jam in one fight on an M240 in the middle of the night, it doesn’t get any more finicky or “motor skills” than that. So excuse me if I believe the right repetitive training is the most important thing; so when the thing actually happens you go to into automatic mode.

      • Phillip Cooper

        Absolutely correct. Train to muscle memory.

      • NDS

        Don’t want to butcher the quote but it’s something like if a fighter pilot can hit little switches and buttons in a dogfight you can find a bolt release. It’s all about your training.

        • DeathFromTheShadows

          they don’t, those controls are not little

      • Grindstone50k

        But did you clear it using your elbows?

      • Uniform223

        Someone who has mastered one skill is more practical than someone who has tries to train in 100 skills.

    • Cal S.

      One can lose fine motor skills easily, if one hyperventilates. I’ve done it before without even realizing it once during a very high altitude race (12,000’+). Lost some feeling in my face and hands after a few minutes. However, it’s unlikely to affect you in the <20s that a fight-or-flight encounter unfolds. Just saying that it is possible, but can be avoided by remembering how to breathe properly.

      I've taken some high-stress classes and never had a problem with my motor skills. I may have thought I was out of ammo and performed a full reload with a few rounds left in my pistol magazine that I discovered later, but I was still able to push all the right buttons and open the right flaps on my LBE…

      • Bill

        Well there’s your problem – here’s your solution: don’t hyperventilate, it’s that simple. As much as I hate the phrase, learn “tactical breathing.”

        • Cal S.

          Thanks, coach, never would have figured that one out…

          • Bill

            In case we both think that the other is being sarcastic, look up autogenic breathing and training. One of the training tools I use is a pulse oximeter, so a trainee can actually see what their pulse and O2 saturation is at before and after exercises, and what impact some simple relation techniques can have. There are also apps available that teach some of the techniques.

            And make sure you are searching for “autogenic” – NOT “autoerotic.” I’ll just assume that autoerotic asphyxiation does not positively contribute to gunfighting skills, but would probably train somebody to hyper- or hypoventilate pretty easily.

            BTDT with the altitude thing – nothing like not acclimatizing and barfing your pancreas up to impress the ski bunnies.

          • n0truscotsman

            “And make sure you are searching for “autogenic” – NOT “autoerotic”

            After I read your first paragraph that is the first thing that came to mind.

            Im a sick man, I know…

      • Marc

        Sure you can lose feeling in and control of your hands under certain circumstances, but no amount of “gross motor skill” training will help you compensate for that. You won’t start manipulating (from manus: hand) a rifle with something other than your hands.

      • DeathFromTheShadows

        there are times when a full magazine is better than half empty,,,

    • n0truscotsman

      I think blaming degredation of fine motor skills on adrenaline is a crutch and a bit of a ego protective measure; One that keeps guys from admitting that they lost their fine motor skills because they weren’t proficient enough in the task they were trying to do…or had delays in their OODA cycle due to a always changing environment.

      Because reloading 3-4 rounds per minute with a smoothbore musket wasn’t a fine motor skill /sarc/ Either that, or members of Napoleon’s Grand Armee were superhuman compared to those of us now…

      • DeathFromTheShadows

        borrow an asthmatics inhaler, go to the range shoot (rapid fire ) a five round target for accuracy but FAST, like your life depended on it, change target, and take three hits on the inhaler. When you feel your heart ramp up, repeat the shooting portion you have 5 seconds… sane as with target one. now compare them.
        You have NEVER been under fire, and smooth bore muskets are not very accurate so Napoleons Kneepad fly bois were not under the same amount of stress.

        • n0truscotsman

          And that proves absolutely nothing. Somebody before brought up fighter pilots. I rest my case. Or, to use another example I have experience in, Tankers.

          And your ridicule of Napoleon’s troops is speaking from the high horse of the privilege of modern technology. Try imaging yourself being on line, with about a company of other men, facing the musket muzzles of the other side, knowing full well a barrage of lead is coming your way or perhaps sharpened bayonets.

          “not the same about of stress” my rosy red ass…

  • Some Guy

    Waiting on the guaranteed few people who don’t recognize satire when they see it.

    • M.M.D.C.

      He’s obviously serious:

      • Some Guy

        you laugh but his video has been making the rounds on the internet and more than a few people get all kinds of butthurt about how his advice is stupid and will get people killed.

        Kinda speaks to the volumes of stupid in the ‘tactical training’ sphere these days.

        • DIR911911 .

          you should have watched the video before commenting. it’s pretty obvious to the intelligent that it’s satire. the guy is good at handling a weapon , did u see how fast his actual reload was? his accent is more of a cantonese or southeast asian style (which he’s exaggerating) which most people aren’t used to. I’ll check with a girl at work tonite but I’m thinking he’s veitnamese or thai.

          • Some Guy

            you maybe should have read my comment before replying… or work on your reading comprehension I guess.

            My point was that plenty of people who take things way too seriously fail to recognize the video as satire and get all butthurt in the comments.

            I’m not sure what your response has to do with my comment as I didn’t ever mention the dude’s gun handling skills or accent.

          • Phil Hsueh

            He sounds South-East Asian to me, not necessarily Vietnamese, doesn’t quite look Vietnamese to me, but almost certainly SE Asian. I don’t think he’s Cantonese, my wife’s family speaks Cantonese and it doesn’t sound like a Cantonese accent, not Chinese sounding enough although he looks like he could be Chinese.

          • Brian M

            Given how he talks with mostly just oddly accented standard English phonemes and rather few grammatical errors, i think the accent is just an act or a joke. Having learnt and spoken two foreign languages, he acts like someone who has a 90-100% grasp and is joking around.

          • DeathFromTheShadows

            He looks Korean, and the accent is fake so you really cant tell.

        • raz-0

          The best part is that while it is satire, he actually gets gross motor skills corrects as opposed to the ‘tactical’ crowd. If it involves your hands doing anything more than making flipper motions, it’s a fine motor skill.

          I thought it was pretty funny. The butthurt on forums is so much more funny though.

          • Captain Kirk

            During my active shooter response course, the instructors made a point of “disabling” our strong side hand or arm and demanding that we perform a tactical reload. Lots of comical fiddling was the norm. At one stage we were sprayed with OC before being told to draw our weapons and engage a bad guy.
            The dye in those bullets is really hard to get off the furniture !

          • DeathFromTheShadows

            Ive been shooting since I was a LITTLE kid (as if I were ever little) and was competing from about age 9, My father was a combat vet in WWII with two bronze stars . So I was more than a step up on the defensive shooting aspects and thinking outside the box, Kept pissing the instructors off because I’d do things in manners they never though of. They were some of the funniest Butthurt characters I ever met. They started getting carried away with the dummy rounds trying to mess me up, by trying to catch me with mis handling a “loaded gun” right up to the day I went and made up a couple hundred rounds of “official” dummies with steel bullets, that were magnetized. They wouldn’t exactly eject, they would extract, and then roll down the side of the frame, clump up like cat litter, and other unique things When they finally caught on and tried to pitch a fit, I calmly stated “that’s what happens when you waste someone else’s time trying to trap them just because they aren’t as slow as you are, God punishes you. Needless to say I had to find other instructors to finish that course, But when word got back to the head of the range running the courses, these two Richard Lester fools suddenly were only teaching introductory courses, And when I finished the course I took over the advanced classes. I love Karma…

          • Bill

            Why don’t you give us your name and the info on where you teach so I can take a class and you can show me how to do things “right.”

      • n0truscotsman

        That video was awesome. I about croaked from laughter. 🙂

      • Giolli Joker

        That video (what’s the best?) is great!

      • Hey maybe it’s a cultural thing. For us Asians, moustaches are serious business. For example, I effing can’t grow one.

        • M.M.D.C.

          It’s no laughing matter. You might want to try this:

          • ‘kay, will report on progress. Round glasses and smoking are covered already. Three-piece suit is in my bucket list. The only thing that’s left is a small country in turmoil.

            (right? I got it right? =) to be fair, I really didn’t know Marx brothers existed before I got into film history in university, hahah)

            PS: I really like that TFB is a gun website that has comment threads like pun ones on reddit or the like ) gives me hope for the internet

          • M.M.D.C.

            I highly recommend “A Night at the Opera.” Enjoy!

    • MrApple

      Hard to say it’s satire when you can’t understand half of what the man says.

      • DIR911911 .

        if you can’t understand english in different accents , it exposes what a limited life you lead.

        • MrApple

          Or that the talker needs to learn to ENUNCIATE.

          • DeathFromTheShadows

            or your apple has worms

          • MrApple

            Or that YOU can eat me.

        • iksnilol

          Ironically, his accent is pretty clear and easier to understand than “normal” English.

      • DeathFromTheShadows

        that’s part of the satire itself

        • MrApple

          Well if a complete and random stranger who uses a pseudonym says so then you know it must be true.

    • Phillip Cooper

      Like the author?

    • DeathFromTheShadows

      After going through the thread the only ones you reference are the Arm chair Generals

  • DW

    Tediore has the best design for gross motor reload.

    • Murph

      Yes! If only Hi-Points were like Tediores

      • BrandonAKsALot

        You don’t throw your Hi-Points when the mag is empty and have them explode?

        • DeathFromTheShadows

          Stop hacking on the hi-points They are perfect tackle box guns, not to expensive to risk losing- if the anchor rope breaks…

          • BrandonAKsALot

            It was a reference to a video game. There is a gun that you throw when empty and it explodes like a grenade.

          • DeathFromTheShadows

            Brandon, reread my comment, I think you missed the last five words.

    • It would be swell if empty LAW or RPG-22 tubes could be chucked with explosive results. Really climactic like. I explode things over there, but YOU can have it too (turns around, walks away two explosions at once).

  • anonymous

    “how to reload a rifle without using ones lands”

    Does the stress of meeting an editorial deadline make typing a fine or gross motor skill?

    • Sianmink

      Real Operators only type with their elbows and face.

      • anonymous

        No, real operators type with somebody else’s face.

      • robert w

        This is how real operators type apparently

      • Brian M

        But most keyboards are not Operator enough to sustain tactical elbow inputs. There is a man who knows the one true source of truly tough operator electronics, but he has not been seen since long ago, ever since he disappeared from a mall in California following a tactical incident at the Orange Julius during which he saved the purity of the Mayor’s nephew.

      • DeathFromTheShadows

        and one other well used appendage…

    • BrandonAKsALot

      He’s using the grooves instead.

    • I fight for my country, it reloads for me. Only fair.

  • PeterK

    I love his smile throughout. He tries to maintain deadpan, but it slips a bit.

    Hilarious video.

  • Nicholas Chen

    No need to push any buttons to close the bolt. Just rack the charging handle back.

    • BrandonAKsALot

      No need to rack the charging handle, just hit the gun on things until the bolt releases. GROSS MOOTTTTOOOORRRR

    • Joe Schmoe

      Interestingly enough, that’s what I always did.

      The springs in my M4A1 were kind of weak and abused, and the magazines in poor condition, so I had a few had jams from the push bolt release. So instead, I always just charged the gun.

      Took a second or so more, but at least I didn’t have to deal with a jam then.

      • Uniform223

        One trick I learned that helps is actually using putting a light coat of lube on the buffer spring and buffer tube. It makes a small difference but just enough.

        • Joe Schmoe

          I always wiped down my buffer spring with oil, still didn’t help unfortunately. That’s what happens I guess with a 15+ year old M4A1 that has never seen replacement parts.

    • JSmath

      Sir, I demand you post a video of you charging one of your ARs by the handle with your knees.

      • Nicholas Chen

        I’m talking as a SCAR owner. I never use the bolt release.I just pull the charging handle

        • JSmath

          Ahh, excuse me then, my mistake.

          Sir, I demand you post a video of you charging your SCAR using gross motor skills technique! Like shown in the video. Feel free to embellish with an accent as well, I recommend Australian or Scottish. Ya, Scottish would be great.

    • AlDeLarge

      I don’t know about a SCAR, but simply tapping the butt on something will release the bolt on an AR, as long as there’s not an empty magazine in it. If you hit something hard enough with the butt while the bolt is forward and a round in the magazine, it will cycle and chamber a round.

      • DeathFromTheShadows

        if the bolt is forward the bolt is already closed, go back to making love to your playstation.

        • AlDeLarge

          You obviously have no clue how the bolt carrier group locks and unlocks the bolt.

  • Cal S.

    You know it’s satire when he’s not getting all mad and stinky about how his ‘game-changing’, ‘innovative’, and ‘cutting-edge’ techniques are getting confused with satire from a bunch of “Keyboard commandos who are too lazy to get their hands out of their Cheetos bags and onto a weapon, let alone taken any sort of tactics training.” That and he didn’t hold a ‘press conference’ about how hurt his ego is from the nasty YT comments section in front of his latest tactical class students who have no idea what the heck is going on (I’m looking at you, Yeager). Or come out and say how much power he has over the world because of a bunch of YT trolls.

    That and he does indeed correct misconceptions. Like the one about his SCAR not being an airsoft replica. He’s trolling the gun community, and it just shows who’s who by how many actually think he’s serious.

    • Dan

      But if I take my hand out of the cheetos bag and put them on my gun, my gun is gonna get all cheesy?

  • Sianmink

    He’s totally taking a jab at at gross motor skill tactidoofs.
    It’s pretty funny.

    • Bill

      If fine motor skills disappear under stress, how do surgeons, pilots and plenty of others function? The “gross motor skills” guys can’t seem to answer that one.

      • Cymond

        I don’t think they disappear, but they probably do degrade a bit.
        Also, I think that what they call ‘stress’ should really be labeled ‘panic’. If so, fine motor skills probably do disappear.

        • Bill

          They’ll degrade to the level you’ve trained repetitively. I use a girl I dated as an example. She was a surgical resident and was constantly tying surgical knots. We’d be at a restaurant or a movie and she’d be tiring knots. She’s tie knots in the bathtub and in bed, and not the fun kind. There’s no doubt in my mind that she could tie off a bleeding blood vessel while covered with blood and fat without a second thought by now.

          Concur re panic: not only do fine motor skills disappear, so do bowel and bladder control. Though that may have something to do with a body ridding itself of toxins before potential injury.

          • DeathFromTheShadows

            Not to take a humorous thread and make it serious like some Adam Henry just did, but training DOESNT take you to the level of an emergency situation because training doesn’t induce real world stress. Its a simple fact of life you armchair warriors NEVER LEARN

          • n0truscotsman

            Then you might want to inform US Army TRADOC that training is a waste of time, since, ‘it doesn’t induce real world stress’ according to you.

            What experience do you have to base this statement on?

            And considering it runs contradictory to over 2,000 years of military training, Im a bit skeptical of your claims.

          • DeathFromTheShadows

            2000 years? really? hate to in form you but when mankind determined injury was not allowed, mental stress was reduced. you need to educate yourself on why live fire exercises are deemed ineffective in comparison to the risk involved
            you are just another pog.

          • n0truscotsman

            What does that make you, then?

            re-read what I wrote and apply some critical thinking before responding back.

            ” you need to educate yourself on why live fire exercises are deemed ineffective in comparison to the risk involved”

            LOL, right, which is why all of the US Army strategic response regiments are well-known for the frequency of their live fire training. Ditto on special operations.

            You must know something they dont know then.

  • Phillip Cooper

    This is quite clearly a satire vid. How can you possibly not understand that?

  • ks

    instructor Z trained?

    • JK

      Alright, James, the jig is up.

  • BrandonAKsALot

    I like to imagine this guy in combat like this:
    Empties his mag and and takes cover next to a fellow soldier.
    Loads a mag from his mag pouch like in the video above.
    Fellow soldier looks at his with great scrutiny and says he doesn’t even know if his mag is properly seated.
    He responds, “Like I give a f***.” while shouldering the bolt release and chambering a round.
    Runs out from cover Rambo style while his fellow soldier watches his mag fall out of the rifle and his improperly fastened mag carrier come undone and whip around over his face also causing his pants to fall down.
    We will remember you guy who’s name we can’t remember.
    RIP

    • DIR911911 .

      you’re supposed to say “spoiler alert” when you give away the next video

    • Zachary marrs

      It takes very little force on most firearms to properly seat a mag on an open bolt

      • BrandonAKsALot

        You must be the life of the party

        • Zachary marrs

          Internet is srs bizness

        • DeathFromTheShadows

          cut the guy some slack while he changes his tampon

  • wetcorps

    Checking whether it was satire or not of (if it wasn’t obvious enough) would have taken about 30 seconds and saved you the embarrassment.
    I know you aren’t exactly doing journalism but taking the time to look where the video you’re sharing comes from is always a good idea.

  • If there is a front-runner to replace me as TFBTV host, it is this dude by a wide margin.

  • Bill

    We can laugh all we want, but I’ve found couple things to steal if my reactionary hand is disabled and I need to reload a rifle one-handed.

  • Bill

    We loose our gross motor skills because an “expert” told us we would lose our gross motor skills.

    • DeathFromTheShadows

      you lose them because the body doe things like that when you are not an armchair commando, like you

  • HH

    This guy is great. Absolutely hilarious satire. Pure genius indeed. The whole thing. From the deadpan to actually good handling to the “okie dokey antichoke” to the fingers wave at the end “fingers no do the working”. Most excellent comedy and I commend thee.

  • Don Ward

    Well done random guy on the Internet who Nathan S saw on his social media feed and is now posting about on TFB.

    Well done.

  • tony

    It looks very airsoft to me

    • Mickey R

      No airsoft involved. While the video is a joke, the equipment is very real. He’s a competitive 3 gun shooter.

  • Delta

    Definitely satire, but somewhat a good point, god forbid you’re too cold to work your fingers like you should, or some other reason that makes them not as good as they should be. Loving the voice though xD

  • Captain Kirk

    That was damn good !

  • Grindstone50k

    Poe’s Law. Look it up.

  • USMC03Vet

    It’s legit. Fine motor skills go out the window when stressed. When I play Call of Duty I usually end up face rolling my keyboard to pull out the clutch move and win the match. All serious operators know these tricks.

    • Captain Kirk

      You numbah 1 GI, beaucoup dinky dau 😉
      031 73-81.

  • MadMonkey

    Heh, I know this guy, that’s not even remotely close to his actual accent.

    • Brian M

      My guess is he has an American accent or he speaks just the slightest hint of Chinglish. His broken English sounds far too quick and correct to be someone struggling with the language. I also didn’t notice any kind of telltale tonal patterns or allomorphs which would indicate a Sino/Viet/Thai family language dominance.

  • RICH

    Some fool will actually attempt this with live rounds ( hopefully not) and end up with an accidental discharge or God forbid a self inflicted GSW….!

    • DeathFromTheShadows

      THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE unless your name is rabbit and you are NOT referencing firearms. The correct term is NEGLEGENT discharge. If it goes off, YOU did something to MAKE IT GO OFF

  • Ben Wong

    as an Asian I sincerely apologies I disavow him 🙂 see this is why they make fun of us ….

    • BigFED

      Sorry, but I thought he was cool. We (USA) folks tend to think WE are the only top guns, but this guy could obviously handle his gear.

      • DeathFromTheShadows

        That’s because the guy IS AN AMERICAN!

    • DeathFromTheShadows

      no we make fun of idiots who take them selves too seriously and are named after Chinese sex toys Mr Ben Wa Balls

  • Uniform223

    there is cool and there is tacticool.

  • Brian M

    Either satire or debatably useful instruction for improved dexterity situations such as deep cold, hand injuries, or bulky mitts. I would have been fine with just hammering the controls with my palms, however.

  • Patrick M.

    “modern MSRs”
    Nice.

  • Bryan Brah

    Okie Dokie, Artichokie! WIN

  • Markius Fox

    I just like how he says “The gross motor skill reload”.

  • Core

    He forgot to mention you can use your handlabar mustache for precision trigger control..

  • Paul Nelson

    Phuc Long,he has a other videos that are pretty good.Like his “My Springfield M1A EBR story.””Firepower United.”I kinda like his stuff,and he really is pretty knowledgeable,a lot better then many I’ve seen.Check him out.

    • DeathFromTheShadows

      Is Phuc Long related to Phuc Phast or Phuc Hard?

  • DeathFromTheShadows

    What a crock. Post that its an april fools Joke when its an April Fools joke so it doesn’t waste our time when doing serious searches. I appreciate a good joke as much as anyone else, but there are times when I don’t have time to deal with them

  • Donald Darr

    According to you guys, learning to rack a pistol slide on your boot sole is a “joke” too.