Break Action Semi-Auto Beretta Video

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We posted an article back in 2008 about Beretta’s UGB25 XCEL. Not exactly a name that rolls off the tongue. A400 XCEL sounds better. Anyway, I have not heard or seen this type of action before, so I found this video that explains the side feed system and shows it in slow motion.

 

Here is another video but it focuses on shooters’ reviews of the UGB25.



Nicholas C

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  • Now THATS interesting.

  • xa

    Thats quite nice from a technical perspective.
    Can you side feed without a round being fired?
    Interesting recoil system.

    But besides high speed sporting I fail to see the application for such a gimmicky setup.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      I see no mechanism to bring the bolt back without firing or breaking the action. So if a round was side loaded, and you broke the action and closed it, I could imagine it could auto feed that in.

      But this gun screams WHY to me. In what way is this “better” than any semi-auto?

      • Jake Barnes

        Probably avoids a lot of laws in Europe by not being “semi auto”.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          Ah, yea something like that I could see.

  • Seriously, this is now the trap gun that I want. How did these not get more popular? Break-open “safe” action that everyone loves, combined with a single point of aim.

    • Giolli Joker

      Premium product with comparable price.

  • Tassiebush

    Thanks for posting those. It’s an interesting system.
    I’m sure it’d be nice to use and it’s doubtless very good for particular competitions. It’s kind of hard to see what it does that a magazine feeding auto doesn’t do apart from how safe it is.

    • iksnilol

      Probably the safety of it is the selling point.

      • Tassiebush

        Agreed and it’s probably just really nice to shoot

      • jcitizen

        I’d think trap and skeet shooters would love this thing. The savings in weight, and accuracy because of recoil reduction would be VERY attractive!

        • CaptainGroovy

          Having shot both American and Internal Skeet and Trap for over thirty years one thing I have learned is that a lightweight shotgun is generally not a desirable attribute for a target shotgun. My trap and skeets guns weight between 10 pounds 8 ounces up to 13 pounds 11 ounces depending which gun and configuration.

    • Anonymoose

      I have an idea of what this migh be useful for. If they added this mechanism to the bottom of a standard semi-auto shotgun (one of their own, or Benelli’s or Franchi’s), with a magazine cutoff as well, you could load 2 loads in a row of a special round (such as breachers). Otherwise you’ve just got an interesting 2-shot shotgun.

      • Tassiebush

        You mean like an additional feed system on top of the tube mag to allow for special loads but keeping mag in reserve?

        • Anonymoose

          Precisely.

          • Tassiebush

            That’s kind of reminiscent of the Johnson LMG. It had a small integral mag as well as the detachable mag from memory and I think it was one that could be topped off. Gee I hope I’m remembering that right.

          • jcitizen

            I’m probably not sure as well, but it seems like it used a rotary internal magazine kind of like the Ruger 10-22s. I’m not sure if anything was ever detachable, but it was probably quickly loaded with stripper clips. I’m not even looking it up, so I’m probably wrong.

          • Tassiebush

            I was mistaken it turns out. The Johnson LMG had a detachable 20 round mag and could also be topped off to 25 with a 5round stripper clip but the extra rounds were possible due to extra space in mag housing, not because of a second integral mag. The rifle version had the 10 shot rotary mag though.

  • DW

    A few more steps to becoming a beltfed. 10/10 would buy.

    • iksnilol

      Didn’t think about that. Always wanted a semi auto belt fed shotgun. Mainly because a belt removes a good deal of the bulk that drum mags have.

      • DW

        Also that shotshell belts would make kickass bandolier.

        • iksnilol

          YASS! Finally a reason to wear a bandolier.

          • eriky

            pfff like you need one

          • iksnilol

            I sorta do. I am a fan of detachable magazines. So the only way for a bandolier to become practical (AKA me bothering to use it) is if the gun is fed by single rounds (such as most shotguns and lever actions) or is a belt fed.

          • DW

            If you are a man you need one
            If you are not you would most probably want one anyways.

      • dshield55

        I’m sure some enterprising redneck scientist could turn a Saiga 12 upside down and marry it to a PKM. Amiright?

        There’s a video somewhere on Youtube of an AR-15 based belt-fed machine gun shotgun. Fun video but it didn’t look appealing to own one.

        • iksnilol

          I saw that one, seemed appealing to me. Chop the barrel down, to 10 inches, bullpup it (like the bullpup PKM)and you have a handy room broom.

          • Joshua

            that would be awesome, 12 gauge PKM, probably be heavy as sin, but awesome

          • iksnilol

            Doubt weight would be that bad. Would certainly be lighter than a regular PKM. This is because shotguns can use shorter barrels and have a fraction of the pressure of cartridges like 308 and 7.62x54mmR. The problem would lie in the ammo itself, it weighs twice as much as 308 or 7.62x54mmR

        • gunsandrockets

          Bet it would be a lot easier with a .410 Saiga. Heck, it might be easiest just to modify a PKM with a .410 barrel.

  • M.M.D.C.

    Reminds me of a gun a friend of mine had; a Browning two-shot auto. Neat gun.

  • Wild Bill

    Perfect for trap gun. Is this two shot action going to had gun haters an excuse to ban defence/tactical multiple round (more than two) shotguns?

  • Plumbiphilious

    I’m not sure what particular madness brought this gun to life, but it’s super cool mechanically.

    • iksnilol

      Probably because people like the safety of a break action gun when it is broken open. Also, it might be good for transport if the hinge allows the barrel to go far enough.

      • Anonymoose

        You’d have to deal with the rims though. You could probably take a semi-auto PKM mechanism and scale it up to work.

        • iksnilol

          It would presumably weigh less, shotguns have very low pressure.

      • Sianmink

        It’s probably capable of full takedown like a standard break action.
        Which is nice.

  • How is this better than just an Over Under?

    • NilHat

      Two well regulated barrels drive the high cost of good double guns. This is like a two shot un-single. Very cool idea!

      • Sianmink

        Yet I figure it will be at least as expensive as a double gun.
        You get one pattern, one point of aim, and considerable weight savings, so there’s that!

    • wedelj1231

      You don’t have the weight of two barrels, yet have the same function.

  • GPSrulz

    It looks like a gun law work around… have no idea which one(s) or what country.

    • Anonymoose

      Bongland has a law against having over 2 rounds in a semi-auto shotgun, iirc (only type of semi-auto firearm they allow anyway), and some states only allow 2 shots in the magazine for hunting.

  • me ohmy

    so conceivably ..you keep dropping shells in the sidesaddle..it’s keeps shooting

  • Sianmink

    I wonder if anything is keeping someone from making a magazine adapter for the side of this thing.
    It would be silly as heck but I still want to see it.

  • Komrad

    reminds me of a Browning B-2000

  • derfelcadarn

    What problems does this answer ?

    • Southpaw89

      Performs like an over and under, weighs closer to a single. Also that fact that you can very quickly confirm that you have a second shot at the ready would be a plus. Also this gun is clearly designed for trap and skeet, and I believe that in at least one of those you are limited to a maximum of two rounds.

      • jcitizen

        I would have though it would sell like hotcakes to those shooters; but lack of marketing lost it. I had never heard of it before!

  • Edeco

    OK, I would like a straight-pull handgun based on this.

  • Joshua

    looks like an old Browning designed gun, Double Auto? was that what he called it?
    didn’t take off then, do they think they can do better?

  • Beretta contacted me and advised this model has been discontinued.

    • jcitizen

      Oh man! Are they stupid or what? They need to learn marketing!

  • jcitizen

    Oh! Yeaaaah! I’d think it would be a popular range gun!

  • Tassiebush

    Awesome video! Thanks for sharing that!