Russian Dual Wields Glocks

Dual glocks

Vitaly Kryuchin posted this video late last week. He is amazing. He is wearing a Russian IPSC jersey while dual wielding glocks. If you notice, he never looks at the sights. It is all point shooting. His dual wield draw and fire is rather impressive.



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Is there a system that trains people to shoot without using the sights?

    • Wolfgar

      Yes, it’s called shooting 50 to 100 thousand rounds a year.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        That’s what I figured.
        I shoot .45’s so that aint gonna happen unless I hit the Powerball Lotto.

        • Wolfgar

          Same here!

        • thedonn007

          If I won the powerball or mega millions, you can bet that I would be shooting every day.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Damn straight and I’d have a team of target re-setting girls on staff.

        • iksnilol

          You could do with it with an air pistol? Find one that feels similar to your regular pistol (maybe add weights to improve the similarity) and then practice. BBs and CO2 are way cheaper than regular ammo. You could make it even cheaper if you used an electric airsoft gun.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Or a .22 conversion kit.

          • iksnilol

            Still, that would be kinda expensive if you shot thousands and thousands of rounds. I am just trying to be as cheap as possible here.

            Though a .22 would be more similar to your real gun in regards to handling. I believe somebody made a .22 trainer version of the 1911 that simulated recoil as well. That was a long time ago and I believe those pistols are rare now.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Im already a pretty good shot with the G21 SF. Better than with any of my .380’s.

          • iksnilol

            Lemme guess, you’ve been shooting it for a while?

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Yeah about 6 years.

          • iksnilol

            Yeah, that means you should be decent at pointing with it.

            Try taping over the sights and running through a mag or two at short range. You could write a guest post on TFB with that experiment. Would be an interesting read.

            I remember reading somewhere: “Good sights are no excuse for not knowing how to point shoot” or something to that effect.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Ill try the next time Im at the range.
            Might be an interesting experiment if nothing else.
            Or a disappointing one.
            Eric Haney talked about how they were taught during room clearing drills to get the gun up and “slap” the trigger with the finger without using the sights. Sounded contrary to basically everything ive ever learned about accurate shooting.

          • iksnilol

            Sounds about right. The contrary to everything part. Even when not using sights I still practice proper trigger-pulling (for lack of a better term).

          • desert

            the sights don’t really matter, whats important is keeping your eye where you want to hit! your target!

          • iksnilol

            Yeah, but taping over the sights removes the temptation of using the sights… or to avoid using the sights accidentally.

          • desert

            I see several adaptors to 1911 for .22

          • iksnilol

            There’s tons of them, there’s even dedicated .22 LR 1911s. The one I was talking about, the one that simulated the recoil of .45 ACP, is called the Colt Ace. It has a floating chamber, which amplifies the recoil. Carbine Williams made it.

          • Casual observation

            Excellent point. Umarex makes some pretty good, reliable and accurate reproduction pistols in CO2. I have one of their Makarovs, it’s very much like the real thing. Better built than Gamo in my opinion.

      • Tassiebush

        The argument run by Fairbairn, Sykes and Rex Applegate is that it actually took less rounds and time to train up an effective point shooter for combat than could be achieved by training for aimed fire. That’s taking into account psychological pressure of being shot at. These guys were talking large volume training in WW2.

    • Mr_X

      Look up “point shooting”. There is a plethora of information about it on the internet. One of the principals is always presenting the weapon in the same fashion. With enough practice and repetition, you can make fairly accurate shots out to 25 yards without using the sights. I took a point shooting class and the first thing the instructor did was place black electrical tape over our sights, and they stayed covered up until the end of the class. While it is not necessary to cover your sights for point shooting, the purpose of this exercise was to demonstrate to us that it can be done (and to make sure nobody was cheating lol). I would have never really believed in the point shooting system if I hadn’t tried and witnessed it firsthand. It does work, and it is very fast. It’s another good tool to have in your stable, and there’s a time and a place for it, just as there is for well controlled aimed fire too.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        The book “Inside Delta Force” by Eric Haney describes a similar training method used in that units formative years when they only used 1911’s.

    • Tassiebush

      If you look up Shooting to Live by Fairbairn and Sykes they outline a training system for handguns. Kill or Get Killed by Rex Applegate is another good read and also gives pointers on point shooting with longarms. All of those authors were involved in training special forces in WW2 but also make argument that it’s an economical and reliable way to make effective close range combat shooters.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Cool, ill check them out.

        • Tassiebush

          The first one is very comprehensive about handgun use. Really paints a picture of Shanghai policing for a multinational occupying force in the 30s.

    • desert

      practice! shoot, try it. your secondary vision will help you aim…we shot from 7 yards in california combat from the hip and hit the 10 ring and bullseye, its not really that difficult…..

  • UnderTheMountain

    I wish I had a small child to paint all my targets and load all my mags for me.

  • Limousine Liberal

    Is that guy using the Force? I hope all Ruskies don’t shoot like that.

    • eddyjames

      If they do, they must have picked it up while vacationing in Texas.

  • Will

    Go to a Cowboy Action Match and watch the ones who shoot “Gunfighter” class. They do basically the same thing with single action army revolvers that are 1873 reproductions or real Colts.
    Watch Bob Munden videos. He was the master of the fast draw.
    MUSCLE MEMORY/ hand-eye coordination will make this possible. Okay, and a couple three semi trailers full of ammo.
    Gotta give this guy credit for dedication.

  • Giolli Joker

    This should start a friendly cold war with JM!
    They might be about the same age as well…

    Impressive.
    Impossible Shots has to fly to Russia (and maybe France as well that Grauffel deserves some air time).

  • tony

    The modern cow boy

  • Christopher Armour

    Miculek would eat him alive.

    • Giolli Joker

      Not so sure about it.
      They have very different styles.
      I’d love to see them challenging each other.
      We’d surely be winning!

  • Iggy

    On the topic of Russian dual wielding, I keep coming across references that they do have a technique called ‘Macedonian shooting’ which was allegedly developed for NKVD agents in the 20-30’s to use two pistols in place of an smg for suppressing fire. And I’ve also seen the odd Russian pistol promo vid that has an operator dual wielding, so I’m led to wonder if it’s still occasionally taught.
    Whole thing might be an urban legend, but I haven’t found enough either way to be sure. Anyone know anything?

    • bsnighteye

      It’s not a legend, because dual-wielding was a part of training for some counterintelligence and intelligence units in both USSR and Germany – “Smersh” and Amt Ausland / Abwehr II. Developed in 30’s, but went to mass in both countries training after 1942. It was necessary due to inablity to take SMG in some occasions (operations in city or deep behind enemy lines, anywhere when SMG looks suspicious). Plus pistols had at 13 rounds at most so in order to increase density of fire operatives of USSR and Germany took 2 or 3 pistols to missions. They had several techniques of dual wielding: quick draw, shooting from hip, shooting from abdomen, “macedonian” (close position of both guns near abdomen), frontal shooting, shooting in complete dark (on sound, on muzzle flash).

  • jcl

    Metal Gear Solid’s Glock Ocelot.

  • guest

    The most impressive here is speed. I did a drill once, just had my glock holstered and shot as fast as I could at a popper 15 feet in front of me. Honestly it’s not that hard to shoot “instinctively” without using the sighst, but it takes getting used to, and after some training I got to about 0,6-0,5 secs from the signal to the shot, of course not too consistently but still. Muscle memory is the keyword here. And no doubt, Santa over here uses 100k rounds per year, at least, to get to where he is now.

    As far as comparing him to Jerry – no. Late Bob Munden – definately.

  • Axtwo38

    Try a laser training cartridge.