Taran Butler posted this photo on his Facebook page.

There are some interesting things to notice in this photo. Taran has great trigger discipline. Johnny Depp, not so much. However I do not know the context of this photo. One thing that is glaring at me, is the SureFire 60 rd magazine. Supposedly this photo was shot at Taran Tactical Innovations. i believe this is where Taran Butler trains a lot of celebrities, we saw photo and video of Will Smith training there earlier. Well, Taran Tactical Innovations is in Moor Park, CA. Southern California.  How is a SureFire 60 rd magazine remotely legal in California?


  • ostiariusalpha

    ? Pinned and welded. Hahaha!

    • randomswede

      I was going to muse that it should be legal with a 10-round limiter insert.

      • Patrick M.

        and a bullet button!

    • Gidge

      It wouldn’t surprise me if they kept a bunch of “evil” things that have been disabled lying around for photos

  • Paul Dawson

    I know there are exemptions for “assault weapons” intended for use by the film industry as long as the DOJ approves. My guess is that this somehow falls under that criteria.

    So if you’re a film star go ahead and use them – every day law abiding citizen NO WAY!

    I’m so glad I don’t live in that state….

    • Ethan762

      Gotta make money off those evil assault weapons while we’re decrying their existence..

      Some animals are more equal than others indeed.

      • USMC03Vet

        *Suddenly a wild Leland Yee appears*

        • iksnilol

          HEY! Keep Leland Yee out of this, he’s just an honest businessman that helped disarm the Moro Islamic Liberation Front.

          • Tassiebush

            So many humorous possibilities with that!

          • iksnilol

            I should probably have added that it isn’t his fault that the people he sold to didn’t submit to a background check.

          • Thomas Gomez

            The M.I.L.F…that is one dangerous group!

          • iksnilol

            The only kind of MILF that isn’t attractive.


          • mbrd

            the time i have spent with my family in mindanao has left me troubled trying to reconcile the acronym’s meanings. it makes me uncomfortable thinking about “moro front”, when i mean to think about… well… the other thing.

      • scaatylobo

        “George Orwell” was SCARILY spot on,just a few decades later.
        “1984” is so very accurate if compared to todays world.”Newspeak” is exactly what the ‘masses’ get from the so called news shows and papers.

    • Tom

      Got to remember that those laws are for the peons not the patricians. That’s why Feinstein is allowed a CCP whilst the surfs can’t even have a shoulder thing that goes up.

      • mbrd

        yeah, i was pretty upset about having to give up my “shoulder thing that goes up” back in ’94.

        fortunately, with the 2004 sunset of the assault (fully automatic military, of course) weapons ban, and the fact that i live in the free world (unlike new york, new jersey, maryland, colorado, the peoples republic of kalifornia- among others), i’ve been able to reattach my shoulder thing, as well as around half a dozen other deadly features on my ugly rifles and shotguns.

        y’know it’s funny; through it all, i just never felt like a criminal. but boy is dianne feinstein angry with me!

    • gibonez

      You poor thing so concerned over laws in states you don’t reside in.

      • Scott Thomas

        Probably because such laws have a tendency to spread like virii to the free states if left untreated by exposure.

        • Pranqster


          • Scott Thomas

            You are correct. My bad. Thanks for the catch.

      • Bill

        State where I’m from, you mean. My dad took the speech on Lady Liberty’s tablet to heart and got the hell outta Dodge back in the 70s. Smart man, he.

      • mbrd

        state law has the insidious potential to affect federal legislation. precedent at any level, federal, state, county, municipal, must always be paid attention to. look up morton grove illinois for context.

        • itsmefool

          If that’s true, then Florida’s landmark CCW laws from ’87 should’ve already affected federal legislation…

          • mbrd

            touche – sort of.

            i did say “potential”. i probably should have qualified it by saying “likely negative potential”.

          • The Brigadier

            Well when the results of Florida CCW law reduced Florida’s high rape stats most states passed the same law. Even Illinois finally saw the light and the murder rate in that state finally started coming down. Congress did take notice and passed a law that CCW’s were valid from state to state. So yes Florida’s law did effect federal law.

          • itsmefool

            USC, please?

        • The Brigadier

          Yes, but the Supreme Court shot down Morton Grove’s unconstitutional law and they finally had to repeal it.

      • Bodie

        You act like California laws have never impacted the rest of the country. Why do fireworks I buy on the East Coast have the California State Fire Marshall’s stamped seal of approval? Why can’t I buy a freaking gas can that doesn’t suck?

        You poor thing, so naive to the reality of infectious legislation.

      • shawn

        So your not concerned if peoples Constitutional rights in other states aren’t
        You have no opinion on gay rights, women’s rights or voting rights in states other than yours.
        We should all just look away when our fellow citizens from other states have their rights violated, because I don’t live there.
        Maybe a little self examination is in order.
        Because I don’t feel your being honest. I think you do give a damn about issue’s outside your area even though you criticize others for doing the same.

        • shawn

          Sry Paul just noticed you were being facetious. Never mind.

    • The Brigadier

      You and me both. It is a progressive hell and I haven’t been back to visit for sixteen years now.

    • Bodie

      Hey, pipe down peon. You cannot be trusted to have high capacity death dealing banana clipssss. Only national news anchors and celebs who have never trained with a firearm once in their life, are trustworthy enough. Know your role like all of the other peasants.

  • FrenchKiss

    Apparently some animals are more equal than others.

    • Tassiebush

      Haha that reminds me of his recent act of smuggling his dogs into Australia without proper quarantine.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Dummy almost got his pets put to sleep.
        Although I’d only feel half bad because they’re yorkies. My mom has one of those little yap boxes and it drives me nuts.

        • Tassiebush

          Haha yeah they aren’t all that endearing. There was an online petition to spare pistol and boo and a counter petition. I may have allegedly signed the latter… Of course it wasn’t ever going to happen since they were able to leave with them and obviously had the means to. I just loved a senior figure in the govt telling them to bugg3r off more than anything.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Yeah gotta love the Aussie F you attitude.

          • Tassiebush

            I think we’re generally pretty friendly but it’s definitely F you when we’re free of a heap of diseases and parasites but a celebrity thinks they’ll bypass quarantine with their fur child’s.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Yeah I’m only kidding. Every Aussie I’ve met has been friendly I just mean it’s not a country you mess around with.

        • mbrd

          “yap box”

      • ghost

        I would not take my dog to Australia.

        • Tassiebush

          Hehe there’s something about taking home a bag of ashes that doesn’t appeal about visiting our nation with pets.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            They should at least offer a choice between bbq’d and deep fried.

          • Tassiebush

            I think they’d just set it to “dryer than a dingo’s donger”.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            In Texas we serve them drier than a snakes ass in a wagon rut.

          • Tassiebush

            That’s a great phrase there!

          • FarmerB

            Dryer than a DEAD dingo’s donger!! 🙂

          • Tassiebush

            Well spotted. I was so busy fixing autospell on donger I somehow missed it. Correcting it now.

          • mbrd

            dryer than a dingo donger in a snakes mouth in a wagon rut?

          • Tassiebush

            Haha as long as it’s a dead dingo’s donger it probably works. Dry as a nun’s nasty is another one.

          • Dan Ratte

            In Australia a “donger” is a transportable domicile usually provided for mine workers.

        • KestrelBike

          I know, I’d have doubts about myself surviving exposure to Aussie wildlife so I certainly wouldn’t subject my beloved pets to the same environment!

          • Zebra Dun

            My thoughts exactly.

          • Tassiebush

            Key is to not expose yourself to the wildlife. Nothing worse than an amorous tiger snake getting the wrong message!… 😉

        • Dan Ratte

          The problem was not that his dogs went to Australia , it is that they were flown in without going through customs.
          Australia is fine with you bringing in animals as long as you go through the proper channels.

          There is no rabies in Australia due to quarantine restrictions at customs , many other diseases and pests are kept out of Australia due to these restrictions.

          Mr Depps dogs were illegally flown in and could potentially have introduced dangerous diseases to the country.

      • Zebra Dun

        Blamed his wife he did!

  • TDog

    “Trigger discipline” should be included in every article ever written about guns.

    • anon

      Are you too much high speed low drag oper8r to keep your booger hook off the bang switch?

      • TDog

        I’m such a covert spec ops ghost commando green delta beret operator I shoot with my big toe. ;-D

        In all seriousness, folks LOVE talking about trigger discipline. It’s the sophomore comment of gun talk. “Yeah, that’s a great looking rifle, but boy does his trigger discipline suck! I mean, come on, that’s some really terrible trigger discipline!”

        For all we know, Depp had just taken a shot and the other guy was lining his up. The assumption here in the rush to trot out one’s vast knowledge of All Things Gun is that Depp is not an “operator” like those of us in the know and put his finger on the trigger for no good reason when, in fact, that might not be the case.

        ANY picture with someone with their finger on the trigger could – and likely would – be decried as a prime example of someone with lousy “trigger discipline”. Doing a Google search, you can find Marines and soldiers with their fingers on the trigger. Are you telling me they’re terribly irresponsible and/or unthinking gun operators?

        A picture is worth a thousand words, but those words may or may not be the entire story.

  • Tony

    Almost all gun control and magazine capacity limits in NY and California carve out exemptions for the film industry. They don’t bite the hand that feeds them

  • Shootin’ Buddy

    Is Depp on the target? If so, what’s the problem? On target, on trigger.

    • Jose

      Well the issue would be obviously the camera man is in front of the firing line so even if he is on target it is kind of a no no.

      • Using a long enough lens at that angle would be perfectly safe in a controlled environment.

      • Joe Higgins

        Or it is a camera on a bipod. I suspect that someone just setup a go pro on a stand or something like that.

        • This is how I do it, bipod and a remote, yet people online always cry havoc to release the dogs of safety.

  • lowell houser

    Well, Depp was a good friend of HunterThompson, who apparently liked to drink whiskey BEFORE shooting belt feds, so bad trigger discipline might just be par for the course with this clique.

    • Iggy

      Well based on the stories about Hunter S Thompson the time to get worried was when the man wasn’t on some kind of substance. He easily gave Ozzy Osbourne a run for his money and Ozzy is a confirmed mutant in regards to substance tolerance.

      • mbrd

        wow, hunter thompson sober? never considered the possibility, but yeah, that sound really frightening…

    • itsmefool

      HST also liked to beat his wife…JD is now divorced, so there’s that, too.

  • BryceB

    he probably has a “dangerous weapons ” permit allowing full auto sbr sbs and normal capacity magazines

    • DavidK

      Plus, Taran Tactical Innovations is a manufacturer of firearms products, parts and accessories. There is also mostlikely an exemption there.

  • Steven Calvaresi

    It’s prolly one of those super sweet CA limited Surefire mags…..lol 😛

  • Uniform223

    No cheek to stock, no trigger discipline, not even a good shoulder placement… Johnny Depp… YOU FAIL!!

    • claymore

      The lean back stance is pretty awesome too.

    • MrEllis

      It’s a picture, for all we know it’s taken before training. They’re just posing for posterity.

  • Azril @ Alex Vostox

    NEXT ON DISNEY FILMS “PIRATES OF SOMALIA:IN SEARCH OF MORE MONEY. Starring Johny Deep as Captain Abdullah Sparrow, Lianm Nesson as US Admiral Benson and Shia LeBouf as US Navy Pilot Topper Harley..Coming soon when hell freeze over…

    • Bob

      And Nicholas Cage as the obnoxious guy everyone hates

    • eriky

      And the sequel: PIRATES OF SOMALIA II Our outboard won’t start.
      Get sucked into this compelling story as Captain Abdullah Sparrow fights the evil Captain Blackbody for a set off spark plugs and a carburetor gasket.

  • Ken Marcum

    Double sunglasses are all the rage in Hollywood

    • ghost

      In Texas, we carry two sacks.

      • Core

        One in one hand and the other in the other? Hahaa couldn’t resist..

    • claymore

      The pair on top is for when he has his head up his azz which is pretty often for him.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    What the hell movie is he preparing for?
    “Hillbilly Death Camp 3”?
    Dude hasn’t made a good one in a long time.

    • Bob

      No, finally made a movie out of Redneck Rampage.

      • ghost

        They stole my original idea of “Wee Willy and His Weed Wacker” and made “Texas Chainsaw Massacre” out of it.

    • ghost

      Made more money than I ever did.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Me too but dollars made is not a good metric for determining value or else the McNugget would be considered the worlds greatest food.

        • ghost

          It’s not?

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Well I guess that’s debatable. Lol

    • john huscio

      This new whitey Bulger biopic he’s in looks decent

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Yeah I heard about that. Sounds interesting.

  • ghost

    It’s a job. Not many actors work regularly. If they refused to pretend to use firearms, regardless of how they felt about them, even more would be out of a job. I didn’t like to work, but, I did. I liked to eat and live in relative comfort. If I told anyone I didn’t like to work, but did anyway, I suppose I could be considered a hypocrite too.

    • It’s more than just not liking firearms – it is a loathing and hatred of private firearms, as a source of evil, that makes taking roles that play up all the stereotypes of firearms, tat makes antigun action film actors hypocrisy.

      Like a supposedly devout Roman Catholic making a film about how cool it is to work in an abortion clinic.

  • ghost

    Now wait a minute………..

  • MNOR

    Dat cheek weld……

  • Tin

    I know the company very well, Taran Tactical Innovations has large-capacity magazine permit issued by California Department Justic, so that they can buy and stock high cap magazines and legally sell to LE officers and costomers outside of California. Their shooting range is in their property, means that it is legal to use their high cap mags there.

    • Fruitbat44

      Thanks for the info. I did wonder if that was the case. Or possibly that the sixty-round mag had been “plugged” so that it could only hold ten . . .

      • As i recall this photo was originally released when the Surefire magazine wasn’t even on shelves yet. I may be wrong there. Several CA gun shops have high-cap exemptions. I believe On Target and OC Armory are examples in southern OC.

  • Frank

    I remember hearing a story that Hunter S Thompson actually willed a submachine gun of some kind to him through an NFA trust. Not sure of how true that is. I do believe he has a residence in Arizona, so I’m sure he could do it legally.

  • TDog

    And whiskey.

  • jeffrey melton

    Once upon a time in a place called the USA guns of all kinds were legal . And then the liberals, atheists and democrats took over.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Yeah that Ronald Reagan was the poster child for liberal athiests.

      • jeffrey melton

        Not the poster child , rather the bulls-eye for them to aim at. R.R. embodied all the traits our current imposter in chief lacks.

        • tts

          Uh I think you missed his point. Reagan was the key politician in banning many kinds of guns as President. He also established anti gun laws in CA when he was governor there.

          These are easily checkable facts since its 2015 and you have the same google and wikipedia as everyone else.

          So you’re flat out blaming the wrong group at a minimum and your follow up comment is at best a non-sequitur that smells suspiciously of denial from where I’m sitting. But that could just be me.

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          You might want to do a little research on Reagan and the machine gun ban.

          • Rock or Something

            Reagan did sign many anti-2a laws into effect as Governor. But I think his “anti-2a” Presidential reputation is a bit overblown since the intent of the original 1986 bill was actually not to ban full auto firearms, rather it was address and curtail the abuse the ATF and other Federal agencies were enacting on legal firearm owners and FFL dealers at the time. As bad as a reputation the ATF has now, it was apparently much worse in the 80s for legal gun owners.Things like delaying background checks and outright harassment of firearm dealers through frequent and costly surprise inspections when the whole store was closed down during the day. The full auto ban was was slipped in rather last minute by a Democrat Senator from NJ at the time (name escapes me) and was passed with the rest of the bill when Reagan signed it into law.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            That’s interesting thanks.

          • Also – treating C&R licensees as if they were FFL dealers, complete with surprise, on premises “compliance inspections”, registering POS ammunition sales in bound books, etc.

            The Machinegun Freeze was slipped in at the last minute by a very dubious voice vote, in a Democratically controlled legislature, and few people understood the full ramifications of it at the time.

      • Zebra Dun

        Reagan was once a democrat I recall, perhaps the infection was still there not yet excised.

    • Bill

      Usually all in the same persons…

  • Christopher Armour

    I’m sure the magazine has a big old piece of lumber inside to knock that capacity down to 10. Mamma Feinstein knows best.

  • Tarzan is leaning into his shotgun. J. Dipp is leaning back so he only has a small circle of light appearing through his scope.

    Looks like an image Tarzan had taken so he could frame it and put it on the wall.

    Love the belt buckle at the eleven O’clock position. WTF?

  • Ajax

    Who cares if it’s legal or not-we already know the answer. It is-the Second Amendment says shall not be infringed.

  • ak1134

    Surefire is based down the street from Moor Park in Fountain Valley ca. They’re tied in all over hollywood.

  • Blake

    …why in the hell would anyone need two pairs of sunglasses?

  • Shawn

    Does Johnny Depp really wear his Captain Sparrow Swag everywhere he goes?

    And as far as the magazine goes. “some of us are more equal than others”

    • Realist

      He’s taking fashion tips from Keith Richards…

  • MrEllis

    No one likes a snitch…

  • Realist

    “How is a SureFire 60 rd magazine remotely legal in California?” – Excerpt

    It’s a stunt-double; everyone knows anything coming from Hollyweird is as real as a three dollar bill…

  • john4637

    I wonder how many anti 2nd amendment celebs are trained and carrying their own firearms. Liberals are not well known for their honesty.

  • Bill

    Are you saying Liberals are hypocrites? Naaahhh…

  • buzzman1

    Can’t help but wonder if he was stoned when he went there for training.

  • Johnny Depp is a gun guy? I’m glad to hear it!

  • LetsTryLibertyAgain

    Johnny Depp gets the same celebrity exemption that was granted to anti-gun talking head teleprompter reader David Gregory when he had a 30 round AR-15 magazine in New York City for an episode of Meet The Press.

    Remember kids! Rules for thee and not for me. That’s the hallmark of tyranny.

    I’m old enough to remember liberty and justice for all, before it was an outdated marketing slogan.

  • milesdigby

    Exceptions for LEO on purchase of anything also active duty military.

  • Dhanoya Dhanoya

    Its a 10/60 surefire magazine, a 60 rnd mag perm blocked to hold only 10. So its all legal and good.

  • Tread Back

    “dangerous weapons permit’. Not even that hard to get in CA depending on county. From what I hear.

  • Pranqster

    He shoulders that rifle like a girl…….

  • Pranqster

    more like Johnny Derp

  • John

    … or you can just STFU about what shooters in CA are doing…

  • I’ve met more atheists in the firearm industry than college, IT, or any other institution or community I’ve been involved in. I think blaming individuals lack of faith, including anti-gun activists/politicians, on this alone, is an extremely broad over-generalization.

  • Don Mei

    Its simple. If Taran Tactical has an 07 FFL with a Class 2 SOT they would fall under the carve out in CA law that exempts manufacturers from these restrictions.