TFB’s Edward O writes …

I’m increasingly interested in South American firearms, so when the opportunity to tinker with a Bersa Thunder Pro came up I grabbed it. I was won over by Caleb Giddings’ comment: “I have a deep and abiding love affair for guns that do two things: 1) run, 2) are priced right.” The second part is in the bag, now I’m taking a few range trips to determine the first.

Bersa is one of those companies that does not get enough credit.

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  • Lloyd Muchmore

    I bough t a Bersa Thunder compact and love it.

  • MPWS

    Nice looking gun, solid metal frame… modest in appearance and ergonomical. Unfortunately, hammer guns are slowly going out of fashion.

    • G0rdon_Fr33man

      lol, no… Hammer guns arenยดt going out of fashion any time soon.

  • G0rdon_Fr33man

    Bersa pronounced in Norwegian means “pooping”. Just felt like pointing that out.

    • Risky

      I’m told Chiappa in Italian means butt cheek. I’m seeing a theme.

      • Giolli Joker

        As an Italian, I can confirm.
        A bit out of the theme, the Chiappa Rhino, in Italian is pronounced exactly as the name of the owner of the company Rino [reeno] Chiappa.

    • petru sova

      Now that’s the most interesting comment I have read in years. Amazing.

  • Manny Fal

    An innovative firearm of Bersa is their double stack Walther PPK clone. I always thought James Bond should use that instead of his pathetic single stack Walther.

    • Tom

      Not sure that a self respecting Brit would use the weapon of a nation which so blatantly and without just reason threatens the sovereignty of his fellow countrymen.

      • Stephen Beat

        (Er, Walther is German!) Let’s face it – we haven’t made a decent handgun since 1915! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Dan

        Wait, are you referring to Walther (Germany) or Bersa (Argentina), two countries that fought against the Brits just last century? Or both? ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Tom

          Argentina since they continue to make claim to the Falklands and generally do everything they can to make life difficult for the islanders.

          we might have had a couple of wars with the Germans but they do not continue lay claim to our territory.

          • iksnilol

            Eh, the Falklands were kinda stolen from Argentine back in 1833.

            What is currently in the Falklands is what’s called a false majority. As in the people who would vote against are either dead or have been driven out. Similar thing in Crimea. The native people from Ukraine that would vote against Russian rule have been killed or chased out of that area.

          • Manny Fal

            But look on the bright side, whenever Argentina wants to humiliate Britain or it’s allies it can squeeze the Falklands which is across a pond for them.

          • Tom

            Not sure how Argentina can humiliate Great Britain or her allies with pointless sabre rattling. They simple deny themselves the opportunity to benefit economically from the Islands which are around 300 KM from Argentina so not exactly a pond.

          • Poyo

            It’s funny how the brits made business with a military dictatorship but refuses to sit down and talk about a solution to the problem with a democratic government.

          • Tom

            There is nothing to talk about the people of the Falklands have made their decision the Argentinians can accept it or not. If they accept it they can reap the economic benefits of cooperation if they choose to be obstinate then so be it.

          • poyo

            I don’t understand how we can reach an agreement of cooperation if the brits continue to refuse to talk (despite the numerous UN resolutions about it). I don’t see the value of the referendum they made. Have the falklands-malvinas become an independent country? If so, i’ll take my hat off and salute the new country, meanwhile, they’re just a colony in the XXI century.

          • Tom

            They are only colony as they wish to remain so along with the other Overseas Territories you may say its a distinction without a difference but they are responsible for their own internal affairs and legal matters. Meaning they are not directly ruled by the UK government and whilst interventions have occurred in the past its very rare. So they had every right to hold their own plebiscite to determine their sovereignty. This is also in accordance with Article I of the UN Charter recognising the right of people to self determination.

          • gunsandrockets

            What’s fascinating about the current military balance is that both Argentina and the U.K. are militarily weaker in projecting power to the Falklands than they were in 1982.

            Of course now the U.K. has a significant Falkland garrison in contrast to the token garrison of 1982.

          • Tom

            This history of the Falklands is one of claim and counter claim mostly between Spain and Great Britain throughout the 16th to early 19th century. But ultimately Spain was a declining power and Great Britain won. Despite the off and on claims of sovereignty by various Argentine governments Britain’s claim predates the independence of Argentina from Spain. Whilst Argentina did briefly occupy the islands in 1833 this was after British sovereignty was established and thus the Argentine garrison was ejected, though the civilians were told they could stay if they so desired. Even if one accepts Argentina prior claims as valid the British took the retook the islands. You can not steel what is already yours.

            Human history is full of one nation taken from another through force or the threat of force. Much as the current Argentine population is mostly European having taken the land of the aboriginal people along with killing and enslaving many of them.

            If we were to go around “returning” all lands taken by force then maybe the British would have to give the Falklands to Argentina, but it would be moot since the Argentinians would have to give their entire country back to the people they took it from. Argentina has no more claim to the Falklands than Mexico has to Texas.

          • Bill

            Actually, we’d have to return a lot more than Texas, and they’d all have to learn how to speak whatever they spoke before Spain got there, long before the Europeans got to the East Coast.

          • Dan

            It would be a lot of taksie backsies from everyone, Natives included.

          • Bill

            Indeed, but I don’t think there’d be funding for a new Bering Land Bridge. Maybe we’d just need a grandfathering date – wherever your ancestors were at 500 BC, that’s were you go and the land you get.

          • Dan

            We could start a kickstarter campaign? The go back to wherever the hell you came from Campaign.

          • iksnilol

            That was usefull info, thanks for that. It is a bit hard to follow geopolitics when I have my own problems of the same nature (I am from Bosnia, that kinda says enough, doesn’t it). So it is nice to have some decent sources of info.

    • Stephen Beat

      It’s not the number of stacks, it’s what you do with them! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Fracking Saves

      There’s a 22rd mag for the Thunder…known as the “Thunder Drum”.

  • SirOliverHumperdink

    Is this related to the walther p88?

    • Tom

      I would say no, more likely a double action HP35. The Argentinians used to (might still do) make the HP35 under license from FN and made a few variants of it.

      • gunsandrockets

        That sounds very interesting. I shall have to look it up. Doubt the DA trigger could be worse than the original HP.

  • sam

    And for controls it seems they’ve thoughtfully provided, from front to back, a take-down lever, a slide stop and a parking-brake.

  • Southpaw89

    I had one of these briefly, the gun ran well, and controls were easy to use and very ambidextrous, but sadly the grips were not, that thumb rest made shooting it left handed less than comfortable and I couldn’t find any suitable replacement grips at the time, ended up trading it in after purchasing a CZ75 clone, which I found much more pleasant to shoot, even with the right handed controls.

  • olfolk223

    I own 3 Bersas (one, way before they became known). Over 8000 rounds through the .380 and not one, as in zero failures! 2″ at 15yds all day! The newer .380 has one FF, but ammo is suspect. My .45 is just as reliable and a pleasure to shoot. AND did I mention all 3 have set me back a whopping $700 total (all were new). What can I say, great guns and great company.

    • I have a BT380 before the key lock mechanism was implemented. 2fte over 1900some rounds. (steel case tulammo, IIRC) My complaint is magazine cost…

  • Vhyrus

    Every time I want to pick one of these up I remember my BP9 that blew up at 300 rounds and cost me an extra 80 bucks to fix ‘under warranty’.

  • FourString

    Wau, I didn’t know it was South Afreekan, now I freekan want it bru!

  • 277Volt

    Thunder 45 Ultra Compact here. Can’t say enough good about it.

  • Cknarf

    I’ve got a Thunder .380, and a Thunder .380 plus. Next on the list is a Thunder .45 and a Thunder .380 Combat.

    I love my Bersa handguns, and I’ve had only a few failures due to crap ammo.

  • My first semiauto pistol was a Bersa Thunder 380 CC. Still have it. Aside from the accursed slide safety/decocker, I still think it’s a great little pistol.

  • Argentina: aka, South Florida for former Nazis

  • ghost

    If it is anything like my Bersa Thunder .380 in reliability, and accuracy, I’ll want it.

  • Steve Martinovich

    If I was ever to buy a 9mm pistol it would probably be this one.

  • iksnilol

    Do they make a doublestack .32? It looks really nice but I don’t use .380.

    • gunsandrockets

      Pretty sure they once did. Don’t know if it is still available in U.S.

      • iksnilol

        Only doublestack .32 ACP I know of at the moment is the CZ 83. I would really like one of those integrally suppressed. If I could get my hands on an integrally suppressed Makarov, I would have something to work off.

  • Leigh Rich

    Picked up a lightly used orphan Bersa Thunder 45 Ultra Compact Pro. Came with original box, 2 mags and a Cross Breed Holster for $299.59 out the door. Great dependable pistol.

  • Todd Jones

    My Bersa ultra compact 9mm and cc 380 just poops bullets all day long. Never had a FTF or stovepipe.

  • RPK

    I carry a Bersa Thunder .380 Combat model with two spare magazines and have had no issues or complaints. It fires every round, everytime! Moderately priced, reliable and built well.