Oklahoma Highway Patrol turns to SIG 320

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The Oklahoma Highway Patrol has selected the SIG Sauer P320 full size in 9mm as their new duty gun. I’m not sure what they had before, but from an overview of media pictures it appears that they formally had Glock 17s as standard issue with some officers with M&Ps probably personally bought. Either way, the Highway Patrol has joined a growing number of departments going with the Sig 320.

 

NEWINGTON, N.H. (June 22, 2015) — SIG SAUER, Inc., has been selected by the Oklahoma Highway Patrol to deliver more than 800 P320® Full-Size pistols in 9mm. An exhaustive test and evaluation found the P320 to meet or exceed the Highway Patrol’s expectations.

Over a two-week span, P320 pistols were evaluated by cadets and firearms instructors of the 63rd Academy class. After more than 78,000 rounds of assorted brands of ammunition, the P320 continued to perform “without any mechanical issues,” according to a letter from the Oklahoma Department of Public Safety.

“All of us here at SIG are proud to have the Oklahoma Highway Patrol be the first state police agency to adopt the P320,” said Tom Jankiewicz, Vice President of Law Enforcement Sales for SIG SAUER, Inc. “The pistol’s safety, accuracy and reliability are what our law enforcement customers expect in a striker-fired pistol worthy of the SIG SAUER name.”

Designed with the input of law enforcement officers, the P320 offers enhanced ergonomics, a short, crisp trigger pull with a tactile reset and the ability to take down the pistol with no tools and without the need to press the trigger.

Instructors also found that inexperienced shooters saw a reduced learning curve with the P320 and they progressed more quickly through training. The ability to switch interchangable grip modules allows each officer to have a pistol that is fit to their hand, helping them more quickly find success on the range.

“We have observed the pistol to be accurate, reliable and operator friendly,” wrote Lt. Todd Fenimore of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol. “We are looking forward to the statewide pistol transition.

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Most officers had the Glock 17. 



Miles V

Former Infantry Marine, and currently studying at Indiana University. I’ve written for Small Arms Review and Small Arms Defense Journal, and have had a teenie tiny photo that appeared in GQ. Specifically, I’m very interested in small arms history, development, and Military/LE usage within the Middle East, and Central Asia.

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  • sean

    Does Oklahoma hate its highway patrol or something?

    • Grindstone50k

      No, but they do believe they’re on par with actual military SOF. I had one OK statie brag to me about how their training is “as intense as the Marines”. I didn’t laugh at him because I was trying to get out of the speeding ticket.

      • imachinegunstuff

        He didn’t specify what kind of Marines, I mean Marine water purifiers exist, and they train……

      • Bill

        I can’t speak to Oklahoma, but I’ve been present at trainings involving the Marines and different branches of the military, and other trainings involving several state LE agencies, and maybe it was coincidence, but the main difference was the uniform.

        People seldom realize that a lot of what is perceived to be military special operations doctrine is based on domestic LE SWAT operations. The military wasn’t tasked with things like hostage rescue and counter-terrorism until the late 70’s/early 80’s, and there was a lot of cross training with some very skilled SWAT teams that by that time had at least a decade of door-kicking experience.

        • imachinegunstuff

          Fair enough, but I’ve rarely seen a police officer who can run a mile in full gear, with an M240, five hundred rounds of ammo, during a live fire training event.

          • Bill

            We don’t have M240s or the need for 500 rounds of ammo, but you’re more than welcome to attend a SWAT Challenge or Roundup and watch them run a distance course and obstacle course carrying their loudouts, while wearing a gas mask, from firing point to firing point. At some events they have to carry a dummy, or each other, if they aren’t the same.

            No doubt in my mind that Marines are tough, but don’t sell the cops short. I was at the Academy today and the recruit class did a 5 mile run in celebration of Monday.

          • imachinegunstuff

            Maybe it’s a Florida thing, or the good ole boy factor of small towns, but I can honestly only say I’ve seen two local police here who can get out of their cars without breaking a sweat. A lot of that training your mentioning sounds like ours, except the Marine won’t buy us dummies, so the PFC gets carried

          • Bill

            Absolutely, and it’s a pet peeve of mine. Police fitness, health and nutrition doesn’t get enough attention; but classifying the entire field as out of shape is overly broad. Besides, we all know members of all branches of the military who have problems with their respective tests.

          • GOT12

            that’s nothing I can run 25miles in fool gear with a barrett m107 and 500 pounds of ammo during a live bs contest

          • imachinegunstuff

            Feel free to ask some of the Marines and possibly soldiers bout machine gun hill in 29 Palms, or range 410 in general, or the mile long range in Fort Pickett that involves live fire and combined arms.

        • n0truscotsman

          “People seldom realize that a lot of what is perceived to be military special operations doctrine is based on domestic LE SWAT operations.”

          Thank the British SAS for the most part. They were a step above in the “CQB/Counter-Terrorism” game, serving the basis for pretty much all the big names in the world i.e. Delta, Sayeret, etc.

          Domestic law enforcement had little to do with their development. In fact, SWAT/SRT teams evolved FROM the military special operations side, like the FBI HRT. SWAT teams even evolved considerably from the 60s to the 80s in regards to overall equipment and doctrine.

          • Bill

            That is at least partially factually incorrect. Charlie Beckwith modeled Delta after the British SAS after Princess Gate, and the 9/11 Commission acknowledges the Israeli success at Entebbe and a GSG9 operation as additional seeds to the .mil specops quiver regarding hostage rescue, but many of the tactics and doctrine in the US came from big-city SWAT teams, which predate Delta by one or two decades. There is a lot of cross-training that occurs on a regular basis.

            Their are some tactics, such as fast roping, that come directly from the military, but the concept of the negotiated or limited use of force to recover a hostage or capture a wanted person came directly from domestic LE, and was not part of the conventional military mission. On the very rare occasions that the military attempted such operations, it tended to be on a larger scale, such as assaulting a POW camp to free hundreds of US and allied prisoners.

    • No they picked well—-

  • Zebra Dun

    Oklahoma sure does love it’s Highway Patrol!

  • SP mclaughlin

    They must’ve watched the Carnik Con video.

  • EzGoingKev

    Does the gun in the pic have no safety mechanisms at all?

    • Nashvone

      Straight fromt the Sig website…”Featuring the SIG SAUER
      internal safety system, the P320 has no external safety or decocking
      lever to snag or hang up on the draw.”

    • imachinegunstuff

      //

    • Just internal. That standard model has no manual safety but you can option to have one.

  • tony

    A single action pistol with no external safety is frowned up.
    A striker fired pistol with the striker cocked does not need an external safety?

    • 2wheels

      Partially cocked according to their website, similar to a Glock.

      • DA/SA…BS

        Yep..and Kahr for that matter.

        Double action — puft!

        Hello, S&W? The Shield is single action (that would SUCK on a 1911).

        We really need to get a handle on these “actions”, i.e., “Be honest: what does the TRIGGER do?”

  • Will

    Tony
    Don’t know about the Sig 320 striker system but the Glocks are striker fired and they are never cocked. The striker is not activated until the trigger is pressed.

    • The mechanism is only partially cocked, but Tony has a point in that the trigger pull is *effectively* a “single action”. You have a short travel, fairly light pull, which makes an ” OOPS!” more likely.

      The P320 trigger feels close to the weight of my G19, with an *apparent* slightly longer travel (which may or may not be illusionary, and due to the tension during the pull) before releasing the striker, and a much smoother trigger release.

      Yeah, the single action feel of the trigger makes it easier to shoot well, but it makes it easier to shoot negligently, as well. Everything’s a trade off.

      The Sig *does* reduce the opportunities for an ND slightly, because the manual of arms doesn’t require dry firing before disassembly. But the risks of snagging the trigger on a foreign object when holstering (especially concealed) before you feel it still exist.

      Not saying striker fired guns without manual safeties are bad, but they do have their downside. Slap a frame mounted “down is fire” bilateral safety on there, and even that risk drops to insignificance.

  • john huscio

    The p320 is well on its way to carving out a huge chunk for itself in the state/local LE market

    • tsk tsk Glock, take notice….

    • I think you’re right. It’s a darn good weapon and if I had to choose I’d probably go P-320 full size.

    • Bill

      SIG was late to the striker-fired polypistol show, and the 250 was underwhelming, but they may have finally gotten it right.

      • Jim

        Agreed. I have the compact version and it’s a fine pistol.

      • I don’t find the P250 “underwhelming”, but I don’t have a problem running a DAO trigger – I just treat it like a high capacity revolver. 😉

        • Bill

          I dont think there is anything wrong with that series, I’ve shot them and they worked just fine. They just never caught on with agencies, because they really don’t offer anything new or outstanding, other than the idea of modularity. And no cop is going to get his hands greasy swapping frames between duty and off duty.

          • I seriously think the DAO trigger had as much to do with the P250’s slow takeoff as anything else. Let’s face it – American cops have been almost exclusively using striker fired pistols (that, for all intents and purposes, might as well be SA) for *how* long? You have forearms instructors in some departments who have *never* had a DA trigger on their duty weapon.

          • Steven Alexander

            And the pull was waaay too loooong. They got a bad rap because they consistently shot 4 to 6 inches low. I had one and loved everything about it but the trigger. Wound up trading it off. (and I do know how to use a double action trigger.)

          • I find both of my P250s shoot right to POA, with a good, smooth pull. Long, yes, especially compared to a Glock or 1911. But, one could make the same complaint about most of the P22X family, in DA – and I shot fine with those (although I haven’t tried one of the DAK or SRT triggers).

            On the other hand, I can make good hits with a P-64 in DA, even though that damned thing ought to come with a windlass for DA.

  • USMC03Vet

    Make sense for large armed organizations that do standard issue to go modular.

    P320 is offered with trigger safety and/or a manual safety lever on the frame.

  • Lance

    Id risk being fired and stay with a G-17. Your life is not worth dieing for with using a piece of crap to protect your life with.

    • tfb fan

      Classic Lance comment, chock-full of useful groundbreaking insight and expertise. Keep up the good work.

    • Yohei556

      Where have I heard this nonsense before? Oh yeah! When the Glock first came out….

      Effing fanboys…

    • Lance you are 100% wrong. Have you shot a P-320 at all or very much?

    • Bill

      Just based on the grammatical construction of your second sentence I’d say that your opinion is worth less than my collie’s, but possibly slightly more than my beagle’s. He once ate a battery.

      • HenryV

        For completeness what guns are your dogs’ EDC? 🙂

    • st4

      Lance, if you ever, by some miracle, got into Oklahoma Highway Patrol (or any position of power at all for that matter), we’d have a helluva lot more to worry about than what sidearm you were issued.

  • uisconfruzed

    For a striker fired pistol, the barrel looks like it’s just as high above the hand as my P229. It lives in the safe & I carry one of my Glocks. They just work for me.

    • Giolli Joker

      Yep.
      I’m curious about the Beretta APX… similar approach but much lower bore axis.

    • It really doesn’t feel that high to me. The grip angle is much better and points very well.

      • Giolli Joker

        They basically kept the same geometry and ergonomic features of their external hammer models, with the following advantages:
        -to them: cost reduction;
        -to the customer: easy passage to the newer model.
        The disadvantage is that they gave up the opportunity to get a lower bore axis that is a selling point for most of the competition.

        • imachinegunstuff

          The lower bore axis thing is so overblown a few mms do not make a difference. Shoot a SIG P226 and a CZ 75 blindfolded and try to tell the difference.

          • Giolli Joker

            Well, it’s surely becoming much of a marketing point.
            However if the difference between those two guns you mention might not be really noticeable, it can be between a P226 and a Glock or most of the striker fired pistols.
            Apparently Sig just chose a different path in developing their 320, this doesnt make said gun in any way “bad”.

          • imachinegunstuff

            I use the CZ as a comparison because of it’s notoriously low bore axis. If I made a pie chart of all the issues that affect shooters shooting fast and accurately bore axis would be so ridiculously low you wouldn’t be able to see. Unless you’re Jerry Miculek you’ll never notice it affecting your shooting

          • Giolli Joker

            CZ bore axis is probably higher than many striker fired pistols, but that wasn’t my point. I fully agree that this detail doesn’t make anybody a great shooter by itself, the only effect, and it’s plain physics, is reducing muzzle flip. And it may only affect speed of recovering and shooting again.
            Maybe with semiauto pistols the difference is limited, if you move from a conventional revolver to a Chiappa Rhino, it’s night and day (yet somebody trained with the former won’t shoot any better with the latter, as JM demonstrated in one of his videos).
            Basically, I just meant that the lower bore axis is a positive feature, how much is relevant or interesting to the shooter depends on him.

          • imachinegunstuff

            I understand it can make a difference with the Chiappa especially with magnum rounds, but with ‘service’ rounds the difference is nil.

          • Giolli Joker

            Well, actually with the Rhino you feel the difference even in 38 Special (basically it feels like 22LR). Although I completely agree that in a real life scenario different from competition shooting nobody would feel it.

          • Bill

            Marketing ploy, maybe.

          • OPIE

            I have shot both pistols and can tell you with absolute certainty that the CZ 75 was more accurate and was faster to put shots on target. Period. No blindfold needed. The target and the timer don’t lie. BTW, Bore axis is NOT what makes the CZ easier to control. The lowering of the slide’s kinetic energy relative your grip is the reason I can hit inside the 9 ring, 3 times with the CZ in the same time it took me to get 2 with my 226. I have no idea why the CZ was so much more accurate for me, but I suspect it was probably hand fit. So, perhaps that issue will improve with the new modular grip system.

      • Bill

        I’ll be hanging myself now – someone mentioned “high bore axis.”

  • Vhyrus

    It’s cheap, ambidextrous, and it works. Same reason I bought one. I didn’t want to ding up my nice walthers by carrying them everyday so my P320 comes with me instead. I can always get a new one if it breaks and I can buy a new frame if I scuff the current one.

  • David Blanchard

    Apparently, not many understand the comment by the VP of Law Enforcement Sales for Sig, “All of us here at SIG are proud to have the Oklahoma Highway Patrol be the first state police agency to adopt the P320.” This is Sig’s first LE contract for this pistol. While the 320 might be a good pistol, who among you believes that Sig didn’t practically give the pistols away for the advertising?

    • RICH

      I recently read that SIG refuses to give any type of discounts to Police Agencies, that could be why you don’t see too many Departments carrying the SIG. Then again….. if the Oklahoma H.P. is transitioning to them maybe SIG pricing is starting to become a bit flexible…….. ? ?

      • Anonymoose

        Eh, my local department carries a mix of P220s, 226s, 229s.

        • Frank

          Second. The state police in my state are issued them.

      • Bill

        The Ohio State Highway Patrol issues SIGS, as do many federal agencies. SIG has an IOP program, so agencies likely get even better prices, plus they typically trade in guns also

    • 2wheels

      And Glock never gave away guns to LE departments? It’s how the game is played.

  • Pike0331

    The P320 does offer modularity over the Glock, but also has some expensive magazines las time I checked, probably not an issue for State Police. As a personal preference the grip angle is more comfortable, plus better sights out of the box.

    • A much better trigger also.

    • The magazines aren’t too bad, if you consider that they haven’t been out long enough for aftermarket magazines to force the price down yet.

      AFAIK, these use the same mags as the equivalent P250, and I paid about $35 apiece for my spare mags, by shopping around.

  • Ted Unlis

    Apparently the next graduating academy class of Texas DPS State Troopers will also be issued the Sig P320 in 9mm. If Sig can keep a handle on quality control and the P320 holds up as well as the other various Sig workhorse pistols Texas DPS has issued since the late 80’s (P220, P226, P229, P239), the older hammer fired Sig pistols will be gradually be phased out and replaced with the P320 striker fired pistol. Currently the majority of TX DPS commissioned officers are issued the Sig P226 in 357 Sig for duty carry.

    Still smarting from the decision to choose the S&W M&P9 as the new issue pistol in 2013, this time TXDPS got it right by letting rank and file officers participate in the selection of a new issue pistol. The S&W M&P9 quality control debacle not only caused TXDPS to drop the M&P9, but also caused the retirement of a Lieutenant over the training academy firing range who was largely responsible for convincing the agency to go with the M&P9 (seems the Lt coincidentally just happened to be sponsored by S&W as a competitive shooter), this time TXDPS brought in their in the field firearms instructors from across the state to participate in extensive testing and evaluation of a variety of 9mm pistols from several different manufacturers, and the Sig P320 finished just ahead of Glock 17 as the pistol preferred by a majority of shooters participating in the testing and evaluation.

  • Jonathan

    They were previously issued the 226, but several troopers chose to carry a different personally owned weapon

  • Southpaw89

    Is this in response to the cracked frames showing up on police Glocks? Or are they just cycling them out?

  • Ted Unlis

    I wish Sig Engineers could come up with a plan for a P290 sized 9mm with the P320 trigger. The original P290 trigger was awful and the P290RS was marginally less awful.

  • GOT12

    the selection process depends mostly on who offers the best deal, I believe the last contract was also with sig. what there issued and what they carry may differ

  • Butch Nowak

    I like the officer in the middle………….sorry off subject.

  • Tonya Masters

    Sig’s are a great guns, but I personally like the Springfield XDM. The accuracy Is excellent , and the trigger Is perfect, plus the grip and trigger safety Is hard to beat. The interchangeable back straps make it easy to fit everyone, and not to mention the 19 round magazine. Take down with no tools needed, and don’t have to pull the trigger, sounds like Sig copied the Springfield.

  • BDP

    Issued duty pistols prior to the transition were the same as Texas DPS – Sig P226 DAK in .357 Sig. (OHP jumped onto the contract with Texas to reduce the cost of pistols. Looks like they’re doing it again.) OHP has a liberal gun policy however, and most Troopers carry what they want.

  • Mark Wyrick

    Don’t Know where this pic came from or how old it is, but I live in Oklahoma and have never seen a state trooper carrying a Glock. The Oklahoma Highway Patrol have carried Sigs since the 90’s starting with the P-220 and have been carrying the 357 sig for the last few years. So it is no surprise on their new choice of a duty weapon. The main complaint on previous sig models was the DA/SA trigger from troopers that I know personally. I have heard nothing but good about the P-320 and will be shooting one at the range soon to see for myself what the hype is about. Who knows it may be my next firearm purchase.